He cleans the garage like once every month tho, there're so many videos of him doing it lolchloe6124 wrote:So why doesn’t Oscar go clean it out. He isn’t helpless.Moony wrote:That vlog made Kyra look absolutely horrible I couldn’t stand it. My husband tends to buy stuff we don’t have room for or tries and it’s so annoying. When we moved in together I couldn’t believe the random junk he was hoarding. He’s gotten better now but even then he never acted how kyra was acting.
What annoyed me the most was how Oscar said the garage is a big project (which it is compared to some piles of clothes and a messy counter) and he said it would take more than a day, and Kyra said “NO” because she was petty she had shit lying around everywhere
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I didn't see the pettiness or her being immature in the hoarding vlog. If anything Oscar was immature about it. I would be upset aswell if I had to throw away things that I've not yet used or is using etc. I think anyone would. But Kyra sucked it up and cleaned out everything in the bathroom, hall, closet + more. And what does Oscar do? Go out. He's not even watching the kids. Its the result that matters and Kyra did her work and matured in the way that she threw away or donated old stuff.
What would've been immature is if Kyra didn't do anything about it or just put stuff away in more boxes.
Yes Kyra may have a hoarding problem and if that is the case its even more admirable that she went through the stuff and threw away that much.
And lastly i'll give them that they don't seem that into expensive brands. They seem to think about their bigger purchases (except cars and house i guess lol) like waiting to find furniture and Kyra getting gucci shoes for her birthday, not every other day like her bff Kornflakes does.
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What would've been immature is if Kyra didn't do anything about it or just put stuff away in more boxes.
Yes Kyra may have a hoarding problem and if that is the case its even more admirable that she went through the stuff and threw away that much.
And lastly i'll give them that they don't seem that into expensive brands. They seem to think about their bigger purchases (except cars and house i guess lol) like waiting to find furniture and Kyra getting gucci shoes for her birthday, not every other day like her bff Kornflakes does.
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Ones every month is a stretch. I can recall him cleaning the garage 2 times. Putting the kids bikes in the corner and throwing a piece of paper from the floor I don't really count as cleaning if we are gonna compare it to actually organizing.ytmamaviewer24 wrote:He cleans the garage like once every month tho, there're so many videos of him doing it lolchloe6124 wrote:So why doesn’t Oscar go clean it out. He isn’t helpless.Moony wrote:That vlog made Kyra look absolutely horrible I couldn’t stand it. My husband tends to buy stuff we don’t have room for or tries and it’s so annoying. When we moved in together I couldn’t believe the random junk he was hoarding. He’s gotten better now but even then he never acted how kyra was acting.
What annoyed me the most was how Oscar said the garage is a big project (which it is compared to some piles of clothes and a messy counter) and he said it would take more than a day, and Kyra said “NO” because she was petty she had shit lying around everywhere
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I think yesterday's vlog made Oscar look really bad. Yes, Kyra was acting childish, but I think that was coming from a place of anxiety, which is completely understandable. Oscar was just acting like a douche. Instead of helping her and being supportive, he publicly shamed her and barked orders at her. The decluttering was his idea, so he should be able to assist her in it. She clearly needed some support. I think it showed that he has no understanding or compassion for Kyra and how her mental illness affects her.
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Telling her to clean her shit up isn't immature. Leaving your shut piles in every room of the house is. You want to keep that much crap then designate and area and keep it there. Like her bathtub was filled with shit, he closet had boxes if clothes she hadn't even worn. The hallway and living room all filled with just thrown in corners. Everything needs a place. Oscar had every right to tell her clean it and he had every right to leave and do his own thing. It isn't his shit everywhere it's hers.
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[quote="Steps_to_STFU"]Telling her to clean her shit up isn't immature. Leaving your shut piles in every room of the house is. You want to keep that much crap then designate and area and keep it there. Like her bathtub was filled with shit, he closet had boxes if clothes she hadn't even worn. The hallway and living room all filled with just thrown in corners. Everything needs a place. Oscar had every right to tell her clean it and he had every right to leave and do his own thing. It isn't his shit everywhere it's hers.
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Yup which is why Oscar doesn't help because the stuff all over the house are hers. Oscar wouldn't touch or throw away her stuff either so she has to clean up for herself. Oscar can be very douchy at times but he gave her a reality check and she needed that.
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Yup which is why Oscar doesn't help because the stuff all over the house are hers. Oscar wouldn't touch or throw away her stuff either so she has to clean up for herself. Oscar can be very douchy at times but he gave her a reality check and she needed that.
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StrippedWoman wrote:I think yesterday's vlog made Oscar look really bad. Yes, Kyra was acting childish, but I think that was coming from a place of anxiety, which is completely understandable. Oscar was just acting like a douche. Instead of helping her and being supportive, he publicly shamed her and barked orders at her. The decluttering was his idea, so he should be able to assist her in it. She clearly needed some support. I think it showed that he has no understanding or compassion for Kyra and how her mental illness affects her.
I think his attitude makes her feel anxious/stressed and overwhelmed. He is not doing her any good. She would be better without him.
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exactly! Of course Oscar isn’t going to help clean up all the shit she’s bought, he probably doesn’t even know what it all is. He did help decluttering the kids toys because that’s something that he is able to have a say in, and even then she was being resistantJwinner_ wrote:Yup which is why Oscar doesn't help because the stuff all over the house are hers. Oscar wouldn't touch or throw away her stuff either so she has to clean up for herself. Oscar can be very douchy at times but he gave her a reality check and she needed that.Steps_to_STFU wrote:Telling her to clean her shit up isn't immature. Leaving your shut piles in every room of the house is. You want to keep that much crap then designate and area and keep it there. Like her bathtub was filled with shit, he closet had boxes if clothes she hadn't even worn. The hallway and living room all filled with just thrown in corners. Everything needs a place. Oscar had every right to tell her clean it and he had every right to leave and do his own thing. It isn't his shit everywhere it's hers.
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He still could of took the kids out so she could of do it without them. He also could of been a little supportive and helped her. She was obviously feeling overwhelmed. I know when I get that why I just don’t do it. I need to make a list and just work down the list to stay focused.
How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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Sydney came over to watch the kids while she did that.chloe6124 wrote:He still could of took the kids out so she could of do it without them. He also could of been a little supportive and helped her. She was obviously feeling overwhelmed. I know when I get that why I just don’t do it. I need to make a list and just work down the list to stay focused.
How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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Also it’s not supporting, its enabling if he just babies her. Don’t buy shit if you don’t have space to put it
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Nope. She is a grown ass woman who did this. He doesn't need to enable her bullshit. He doesn't need to make it easier. She does this to herself. If she is overwhelmed, then that is her doing. She is like a child trapped in a woman's body. She needs to get some fucking help mentally
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How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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[quote="Steps_to_STFU"]Nope. She is a grown ass woman who did this. He doesn't need to enable her bullshit. He doesn't need to make it easier. She does this to herself. If she is overwhelmed, then that is her doing. She is like a child trapped in a woman's body. She needs to get some fucking help mentally [quote="chloe6124"]He still could of took the kids out so she could of do it without them. He also could of been a little supportive and helped her. She was obviously feeling overwhelmed. I know when I get that why I just don’t do it. I need to make a list and just work down the list to stay focused.
How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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I can understand her being very overwhelmed by this cleaning process. But, I have to agree she is a mother with about to be 3 kids and she needs to learn what to do what’s best for the family instead of herself aka clean her own shit and make room for her third child. Like I stated earlier she’s very spoiled and very petty when things doesn’t go her way plus she whines and gets aggressively defensive when she doesn’t admit she’s wrong. It’s drives me insane. She has a lot to learn and needs to prioritize her kids well being than shopping for unnecessary things.
How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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I can understand her being very overwhelmed by this cleaning process. But, I have to agree she is a mother with about to be 3 kids and she needs to learn what to do what’s best for the family instead of herself aka clean her own shit and make room for her third child. Like I stated earlier she’s very spoiled and very petty when things doesn’t go her way plus she whines and gets aggressively defensive when she doesn’t admit she’s wrong. It’s drives me insane. She has a lot to learn and needs to prioritize her kids well being than shopping for unnecessary things.
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How many times is she going to say in a video that she wants to kill Oscar? and to make matters worse this time she asked how to kill Oscar with out getting in trouble. Like wtf? What sane person says this?
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I think what Oscar should understand is her hoarding and shopping is what she gets her thrill off of like he does rock climbing and skydiving. Probably costs the same to so he shouldn't be hard on her for that she just accumulates stuff from it.
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Helping his partner through an issue, that is obviously deeply rooted in her anxiety, is not enabling. It's being a supportive partner. Enabling would be ignoring the issue and picking up after her. Supporting is assisting her with deciding what she really needs; coming up with ideas on how to prevent compulsive shopping in the future; encouraging her to go back to therapy; helping her find the root of the problem; and making sure nothing that is being done will trigger her anxiety too badly. She has OCD, which means this behavior probably isn't as simple as never cleaning up after herself. This type of behavior is often addictive and letting go of items can be panic inducing. Personally, I am very proud of her for being able to go through so much of her stuff and get rid of so much. It shows a mental fortitude that I thought she lacked. Obviously she still has a long way to go, but she is doing a great job getting started. Oscar's behavior will only end up holding her back. We all know they are both very stubborn, so him ordering her around will only push her further into her destructive behaviors. I think she needs a partner, not a drill sergeant.Steps_to_STFU wrote:Nope. She is a grown ass woman who did this. He doesn't need to enable her bullshit. He doesn't need to make it easier. She does this to herself. If she is overwhelmed, then that is her doing. She is like a child trapped in a woman's body. She needs to get some fucking help mentallySent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalkchloe6124 wrote:He still could of took the kids out so she could of do it without them. He also could of been a little supportive and helped her. She was obviously feeling overwhelmed. I know when I get that why I just don’t do it. I need to make a list and just work down the list to stay focused.
How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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I agree 100%Moony wrote:Sydney came over to watch the kids while she did that.chloe6124 wrote:He still could of took the kids out so she could of do it without them. He also could of been a little supportive and helped her. She was obviously feeling overwhelmed. I know when I get that why I just don’t do it. I need to make a list and just work down the list to stay focused.
How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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Also it’s not supporting, its enabling if he just babies her. Don’t buy shit if you don’t have space to put it
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Oscar can be an asshole, but he wasn't in the wrong here.
Also, how will she learn how to cope and deal with her issues if Oscar is constantly there enabling her behavior? She didn't even realize how much she was spending and how much clutter she was accumulating till he made her see reason.. And she even said he was right.
Kyra has this need to always be in control so it takes her a while to see that she's not always right. But most of the time she gets there after a little push.
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[quote="ytmamaviewer24"][quote="Moony"][quote="chloe6124"]He still could of took the kids out so she could of do it without them. He also could of been a little supportive and helped her. She was obviously feeling overwhelmed. I know when I get that why I just don’t do it. I need to make a list and just work down the list to stay focused.
How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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Also it’s not supporting, its enabling if he just babies her. Don’t buy shit if you don’t have space to put it
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I agree 100%
Oscar can be an asshole, but he wasn't in the wrong here.
Also, how will she learn how to cope and deal with her issues if Oscar is constantly there enabling her behavior? She didn't even realize how much she was spending and how much clutter she was accumulating till he made her see reason.. And she even said he was right.
Kyra has this need to always be in control so it takes her a while to see that she's not always right. But most of the time she gets there after a little push.[/quote]
Kyra is very good at realizing that she’s wrong at times and works on it which is great for her. She did admit that he’s right and she needs to work on what to buy or not. I do agree that she’s a control freak and Oscar did a good job telling her that her “hoarding” is an issue. Yeah Oscar can be a little pushy but that’s tough love aka Hispanic parenting haha. Yes Kyra can be very childish and petty like a toddler but at least she learns from it and I respect her for that.
How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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Also it’s not supporting, its enabling if he just babies her. Don’t buy shit if you don’t have space to put it
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I agree 100%
Oscar can be an asshole, but he wasn't in the wrong here.
Also, how will she learn how to cope and deal with her issues if Oscar is constantly there enabling her behavior? She didn't even realize how much she was spending and how much clutter she was accumulating till he made her see reason.. And she even said he was right.
Kyra has this need to always be in control so it takes her a while to see that she's not always right. But most of the time she gets there after a little push.[/quote]
Kyra is very good at realizing that she’s wrong at times and works on it which is great for her. She did admit that he’s right and she needs to work on what to buy or not. I do agree that she’s a control freak and Oscar did a good job telling her that her “hoarding” is an issue. Yeah Oscar can be a little pushy but that’s tough love aka Hispanic parenting haha. Yes Kyra can be very childish and petty like a toddler but at least she learns from it and I respect her for that.
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Does Oscar have some sort of germ/dirty thing?
The way he was going on about Levi being yucky because he may have had paint on him was weird.
Then complaining about how much work it was to set up painting? They literally threw down 2 plates and put 3 drops of paint on there. It would have taken no more than a minute.
Kyra has issues. She needs to get help for it. But Oscar pushing her like that isn’t going to work. It’s just going to make her hide stuff from him.
The way he was going on about Levi being yucky because he may have had paint on him was weird.
Then complaining about how much work it was to set up painting? They literally threw down 2 plates and put 3 drops of paint on there. It would have taken no more than a minute.
Kyra has issues. She needs to get help for it. But Oscar pushing her like that isn’t going to work. It’s just going to make her hide stuff from him.
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[quote="sezzajaydee"]Does Oscar have some sort of germ/dirty thing?
The way he was going on about Levi being yucky because he may have had paint on him was weird.
Then complaining about how much work it was to set up painting? They literally threw down 2 plates and put 3 drops of paint on there. It would have taken no more than a minute.
Kyra has issues. She needs to get help for it. But Oscar pushing her like that isn’t going to work. It’s just going to make her hide stuff from him.[/quote]
I think Oscar is just a germaphobe but who knows. Kyra’s anxiety is definitely an issue but she shouldn’t be hiding things from him since it makes her very untrustworthy and kinda shady. Remember the time she got the tattoo on her without telling him. That was not cool of her. I agree that she needs therapy to help ease her issues. I don’t think Oscar is a terrible person but sometimes she needs a little push to improve herself for her well-being. Life is tough and she needs to learn to not be afraid of anything. Of course this will take time for her but I hope she does get the help she needs.
The way he was going on about Levi being yucky because he may have had paint on him was weird.
Then complaining about how much work it was to set up painting? They literally threw down 2 plates and put 3 drops of paint on there. It would have taken no more than a minute.
Kyra has issues. She needs to get help for it. But Oscar pushing her like that isn’t going to work. It’s just going to make her hide stuff from him.[/quote]
I think Oscar is just a germaphobe but who knows. Kyra’s anxiety is definitely an issue but she shouldn’t be hiding things from him since it makes her very untrustworthy and kinda shady. Remember the time she got the tattoo on her without telling him. That was not cool of her. I agree that she needs therapy to help ease her issues. I don’t think Oscar is a terrible person but sometimes she needs a little push to improve herself for her well-being. Life is tough and she needs to learn to not be afraid of anything. Of course this will take time for her but I hope she does get the help she needs.
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Thank you. I don't know about you guys but a partner should support you and help you out especielly if you live together. Find a way to organize, go buy containers, furniture that will hold the decor or makeup or sit by with bags and help her throw or save stuff OR take care of the kids. Ya'll complain when Sydney is over and babysit but now that you can complain on Kyra and take Oscars side you justify him going out.StrippedWoman wrote:Helping his partner through an issue, that is obviously deeply rooted in her anxiety, is not enabling. It's being a supportive partner. Enabling would be ignoring the issue and picking up after her. Supporting is assisting her with deciding what she really needs; coming up with ideas on how to prevent compulsive shopping in the future; encouraging her to go back to therapy; helping her find the root of the problem; and making sure nothing that is being done will trigger her anxiety too badly. She has OCD, which means this behavior probably isn't as simple as never cleaning up after herself. This type of behavior is often addictive and letting go of items can be panic inducing. Personally, I am very proud of her for being able to go through so much of her stuff and get rid of so much. It shows a mental fortitude that I thought she lacked. Obviously she still has a long way to go, but she is doing a great job getting started. Oscar's behavior will only end up holding her back. We all know they are both very stubborn, so him ordering her around will only push her further into her destructive behaviors. I think she needs a partner, not a drill sergeant.Steps_to_STFU wrote:Nope. She is a grown ass woman who did this. He doesn't need to enable her bullshit. He doesn't need to make it easier. She does this to herself. If she is overwhelmed, then that is her doing. She is like a child trapped in a woman's body. She needs to get some fucking help mentallySent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalkchloe6124 wrote:He still could of took the kids out so she could of do it without them. He also could of been a little supportive and helped her. She was obviously feeling overwhelmed. I know when I get that why I just don’t do it. I need to make a list and just work down the list to stay focused.
How about supporting her and helping her through it. She supports a lot of crap he does.
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I'm sure Oscar is the one saying no to buying furniture so where is she gonna put that stuff? As she said the stuff in the bathtub is for her videos aka her work. Yes to over buy useless crap is not healthy but i know plenty of people like her, myself included and I can see her side of the story. Atleast she took it like an adult and actually cleaned out and organized without Oscars support.
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