Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

[Playsinrain]

So I don’t comment on here often, but I do read here daily. Brooks is adorable when he kept saying, “Hey Guys”, I mean the cutest thing!! I know he turned 2, in July. Is how he speaks now normal? To me, he needs a little improvement, but then again how he talks is so cute! I guess it sounds weird to me bc he’s always speaking so fast and stutters when he speaks bc he’s so excited.
Can anyone shed light on his speech? I’m just innocently asking if it’s normal for him to stutter like he does? He’s just the cutest little boy!

Personally, I think he may have a stutter that might need speech therapy. I had a stutter growing up and speech therapy worked wonders for me. My son is also in speech therapy for a speech delay so I just really trust the process of getting kids evaluated and getting help when necessary. He could just grow out of it but I have never heard a 2 year old talk like that. Who knows it could be completely normal?

I also wonder if it's not really a "real" speech issue (as in, say a lisp that doesn't improve with age) and just his little brain working faster than his mouth can form the words. My daughter had this issue when she was about his age. She would get so worked up wanting to say something that she would stutter over worlds and repeat words. We would have to tell her to slow down, take a breath and try again. She worked it out on her own after time. I think that if it's something that doesn't improve as his vocabulary grows then yes he needs intervention, but i also don't think its such an issue at this moment that they should be concerned. His speech in general has exploded in the past couple months. I also have zero experience with speech therapy, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Just where my thoughts would be if he were my kid.

[lmmomSD]

I absolutely agree. I would like to hear her talk about it, because I think she might help someone. But. It's not C&K's place to spill the beans.
And as a recovering addict, I definitely know that they lie. But other than discussing her jail time, which she doesn't _have_ to do, she seems to be fairly honest. She's trying to put her life together, and although I have sounded harsh and judgy, am not judging her. I am waiting to see what happens, but that's only because I have seen so many people relapse and die. I sincerely hope that she is happy and that everything continues to go well.
And I hope Cullen is able to find his way. I do think an inpatient rehab would be really helpful, or at least an outpatient program. But he has to make that decision.

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[Playsinrain]

I absolutely agree. I would like to hear her talk about it, because I think she might help someone. But. It's not C&K's place to spill the beans.
And as a recovering addict, I definitely know that they lie. But other than discussing her jail time, which she doesn't _have_ to do, she seems to be fairly honest. She's trying to put her life together, and although I have sounded harsh and judgy, am not judging her. I am waiting to see what happens, but that's only because I have seen so many people relapse and die. I sincerely hope that she is happy and that everything continues to go well.
And I hope Cullen is able to find his way. I do think an inpatient rehab would be really helpful, or at least an outpatient program. But he has to make that decision.

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She has also reviled some pretty damning and dark things about her past that i'm sure people who watch her vlogs had no idea about until now. That's a huge step. I have a feeling that if she's ok with admitting she was near dead living in a crack house at one point in her life that she might eventually talk about her jail time, but until she is comfortable with that, people should just let it be and let her do this on her own time. She doesn't owe anyone on the internet ANYTHING..

I worry about when Cullen relapses, bc thats a normal part of recovery. I think people here who don't understand how addiction and recovery work are going to judge the shit out of him. Relapses happen, the important thing is that the addict realizes the mistake and recommits themselves to sober living.

I also think that he needs to be in some sort of in/outpatient rehab. Him trying to stop his drinking by himself scares me for his health. I'm not so concerned about his weed use, bc that's not gonna kill him, but detoxing from the booze could.

[Catface2]

Here’s my two cents..I think because he has a paci in a lot of the time..he tries to talk with it in and has to keep repeating himself to be understood. Then when he’s not plugged in he still repeats himself. That thing needs to GO. Plus he’s getting that chapped paci lip ring here and there. Yuck I really love how he is standing up to MG lately. He told her NO..that she couldn’t get into his big boy bed! Lol

[Playsinrain]

Katie looks fantastic in her newest IG, before and after pic..

[HelloSweetie]

Yes I will judge both Cullen and Katie if and when he relapses. Not because isn’t a normal part of recovery, but because (in my opinion) he isn’t taking his recovery seriously in the first place so it can’t exactly be a relapse.

I mean, if he’s been using and “quitting” various drugs off and on for years, I guess we shouldn’t have judged this last time because it could technically be considered a relapse?

If Brittany relapses I’ll judge her too. You don’t get to be selfish like that and let a substance take priority over your children’s right to a healthy, well functioning family.


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[Playsinrain]

Yes I will judge both Cullen and Katie if and when he relapses. Not because isn’t a normal part of recovery, but because (in my opinion) he isn’t taking his recovery seriously in the first place so it can’t exactly be a relapse.

I mean, if he’s been using and “quitting” various drugs off and on for years, I guess we shouldn’t have judged this last time because it could technically be considered a relapse?

If Brittany relapses I’ll judge her too. You don’t get to be selfish like that and let a substance take priority over your children’s right to a healthy, well functioning family.


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I'll say this, i will judge their responses and actions after a relapse before i judge the relapse itself.

[HelloSweetie]

Yes I will judge both Cullen and Katie if and when he relapses. Not because isn’t a normal part of recovery, but because (in my opinion) he isn’t taking his recovery seriously in the first place so it can’t exactly be a relapse.

I mean, if he’s been using and “quitting” various drugs off and on for years, I guess we shouldn’t have judged this last time because it could technically be considered a relapse?

If Brittany relapses I’ll judge her too. You don’t get to be selfish like that and let a substance take priority over your children’s right to a healthy, well functioning family.


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I'll say this, i will judge their responses and actions after a relapse before i judge the relapse itself.

Naturally. To me that’s part of the overall assessment in judging the situation.

But you can’t put it out there that Cullen shouldn’t be judged. We judge all kinds of petty shit on these boards, yet someone does drugs around their kids and we can’t say anything? Nope. I care more about Cullen doing drugs than how fat Bryan is, how long Missy’s extensions are, or how obnoxious Bonnie’s nails are. If he relapses, people will notice, and will absolutely side eye him. It’s not like he’s been giving it his all. Life seems to have returned to normal, he’s alone with the kids (per IG) and as far as I know, doesn’t feel he needs to seek formal treatment. If it’s weed this may be fair, but I really don’t think it is. I still say that’s a lie/mislead.


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[lmmomSD]

I was working my program HARD and still relapsed, but I had pancreatitis and had to be on the very thing I was addicted to. If he's still drinking on weekends, he is not giving it his all. If it's that bad, he should seek treatment.
They seem to be "business as usual" now, and that doesn't look to me like someone working his program hard and putting sobriety before everything else.
And how did they afford a bathroom remodel? And why do that with everything else that is going on?

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[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I was working my program HARD and still relapsed, but I had pancreatitis and had to be on the very thing I was addicted to. If he's still drinking on weekends, he is not giving it his all. If it's that bad, he should seek treatment.
They seem to be "business as usual" now, and that doesn't look to me like someone working his program hard and putting sobriety before everything else.
And how did they afford a bathroom remodel? And why do that with everything else that is going on?

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I think insurance is paying. Which is why he said he wasn’t sure how far it would go, because if the flooring and other things could be salvaged then they wouldn’t be replacing them. And they’re only doing it now because the shower isn’t usable because of the leak.

[lmmomSD]

I was working my program HARD and still relapsed, but I had pancreatitis and had to be on the very thing I was addicted to. If he's still drinking on weekends, he is not giving it his all. If it's that bad, he should seek treatment.
They seem to be "business as usual" now, and that doesn't look to me like someone working his program hard and putting sobriety before everything else.
And how did they afford a bathroom remodel? And why do that with everything else that is going on?

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I think insurance is paying. Which is why he said he wasn’t sure how far it would go, because if the flooring and other things could be salvaged then they wouldn’t be replacing them. And they’re only doing it now because the shower isn’t usable because of the leak.

Thanks. I really don't want to give them a view.

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[ewokfan11]

So Cullen knew they had problems with water leaks for months and just did nothing? Yikes, isn't he worried at all about black mold?? Water in light fixtures? Is he really that stupid?! Holy HELL! That's a major problem that probably could have been fixed as a small problem when they first noticed it.

Did he even tell Katie there were leaks or was he hiding that too?

What a nightmare! That's going to cost a fortune—even with insurance—and probably take months to finish.

[angelfire89]

Here’s my two cents..I think because he has a paci in a lot of the time..he tries to talk with it in and has to keep repeating himself to be understood. Then when he’s not plugged in he still repeats himself. That thing needs to GO. Plus he’s getting that chapped paci lip ring here and there. Yuck I really love how he is standing up to MG lately. He told her NO..that she couldn’t get into his big boy bed! Lol

Too bad Katie basically forced him to let her on it. He kept saying NO and she kept saying, “after this book she can right” and the like. It’s his bed, he should be able to decide that he doesn’t want his annoying older sister on it. She has her own bed and it’s not like a toy he should be able to share. Let the poor kid have his own space.

Did anyone notice the message on the bottom of the screen when he was shown with his paci? “Yes he still has the paci. If it bothers you, maybe you should try one.” How incredibly rude to the viewers who are probably concerned about his speech/teeth/ etc. They’re so lazy with him. When he said he was done, they should have thrown them all away like they did with Gaines. They probably kept it to keep him quite, like they’ve been doing since he was a baby.

I agree that his speech problem seems like it’s mostly over-excitement. He wants to say so much, so quickly that his mouth can’t keep up. Maybe a speech therapist could help him learn to slow down and get out his thoughts. His parents sure won’t.

[HelloSweetie]

They’ve been really thin skinned and rude when faced with criticism lately. That’s going to really hurt them in the long run if they don’t check their attitudes.


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[Boymomma123]

I thought it was unnecessary too that Katie was telling Brooks to let's Gaines in his bed after he said no. Let the poor kid have something of his own. I highly doubt princess Gaines would have been forced to share he bed. Katie's video of decluttering Gaines closet was just crazy to me. I love kids clothes too but the amount they have is just beyond excessive. It would take two months to wear all of those clothes before they would need to do laundry. I know they have talked in the past about how they don't use credit cards and try to avoid debt but with how they spend and the crazy high car and house payments they have I don't see how they make it without using credit cards.

[auntasaurus19]

I think the paci is beyond ridiculous. The other day on Cullen’s IG stories he took the dogs and kids for a walk outside. Brooks had a paci in his mouth the whole time. He and Gaines stopped to pet a stray cat. Brooks petted the cat, took his paci out to talk and then popped it back in his mouth. Yuck.


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[lmmomSD]

I think the paci is beyond ridiculous. The other day on Cullen’s IG stories he took the dogs and kids for a walk outside. Brooks had a paci in his mouth the whole time. He and Gaines stopped to pet a stray cat. Brooks petted the cat, took his paci out to talk and then popped it back in his mouth. Yuck.


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Kid is going to grow up orally fixated.

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[Gladys Kravitz I]

Wow! The silence is deafening! Wonder how things are going in the rehab mansion? I can't help but worry about these two idiots.

[HelloSweetie]

Wow! The silence is deafening! Wonder how things are going in the rehab mansion? I can't help but worry about these two idiots.

Oh they’ve been on IG lots lately. Life is perfect again. Fastest recovery ever.


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[lmmomSD]

Wow! The silence is deafening! Wonder how things are going in the rehab mansion? I can't help but worry about these two idiots.

Oh they’ve been on IG lots lately. Life is perfect again. Fastest recovery ever.


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Yep. Not buying it for a minute. He hasn't hit bottom.

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