Katie:Learning to Say No to Everything Except Gaines|Part 21

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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:14 am I wonder how much of an enabler she really was. I don't think Katie was into the harder drugs Cullen was into but he says she was a big drinker, she would stay up most nights and drink with him. Did she smoke pot too?
The more they talk the more things aren't making sense. And I know theyre (Katie) is trying to back track now to make this seem better then it is but she's just digging herself a bigger hole.

I agree with what Playsinrain last said. She has never seemed that worried or invested in Cullens emotions or supporting him. Even when Cullen comes out and admits he has a problem (depression and now addiction) she's spun it to how she suffers.
There were at least 2 vlogs that i think Katie was high in, idk if she really was bc since they admitted to the nightly binge drinking, maybe she was just tipsy. If she did ever partake with him, i doubt it was often, and i honestly don't know if she would or not, just bc of how anti weed she sounds. But i will say, long before the drinking was admitted and even talked about here i thought she was high as a kite in at least those 2 videos, one was at the old house.
And just for the sake of saying it, you don't have to do drugs alongside someone to be an enabler. Most times enablers do not have drug problems and are the ones that want the person to get help, but are still enabling. Her allowing him and resigning to his smoking is enabling, as is her turning the other cheek too it when she knew it was happening.
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I would like to hear one day why Katie decided she had enough. I hope Cullen shares it, because at this point I believe the addicts version of events more then Katies.

I don't know if Katie used pot with him, but I could see it. And I know she doesn't have to use to enable his using...the things being said now just aren't adding up, and I think there is much, much more Katie wants to keep under wraps. Which is fine, but likely wont happen unless they get off their public platform all together.
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Playsinrain wrote:
FakingIt_MakingIt wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:14 am I wonder how much of an enabler she really was. I don't think Katie was into the harder drugs Cullen was into but he says she was a big drinker, she would stay up most nights and drink with him. Did she smoke pot too?
The more they talk the more things aren't making sense. And I know theyre (Katie) is trying to back track now to make this seem better then it is but she's just digging herself a bigger hole.

I agree with what Playsinrain last said. She has never seemed that worried or invested in Cullens emotions or supporting him. Even when Cullen comes out and admits he has a problem (depression and now addiction) she's spun it to how she suffers.
There were at least 2 vlogs that i think Katie was high in, idk if she really was bc since they admitted to the nightly binge drinking, maybe she was just tipsy. If she did ever partake with him, i doubt it was often, and i honestly don't know if she would or not, just bc of how anti weed she sounds. But i will say, long before the drinking was admitted and even talked about here i thought she was high as a kite in at least those 2 videos, one was at the old house.
And just for the sake of saying it, you don't have to do drugs alongside someone to be an enabler. Most times enablers do not have drug problems and are the ones that want the person to get help, but are still enabling. Her allowing him and resigning to his smoking is enabling, as is her turning the other cheek too it when she knew it was happening.
Exactly, I don’t see where she would partake in illegal drugs, she just pretended it was not a big deal. Well, it is a big deal now. I wonder what really was the last straw. I don’t see where Cullen has bottomed out so I think things will get worse before they are better.


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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:31 am I would like to hear one day why Katie decided she had enough. I hope Cullen shares it, because at this point I believe the addicts version of events more then Katies.

I don't know if Katie used pot with him, but I could see it. And I know she doesn't have to use to enable his using...the things being said now just aren't adding up, and I think there is much, much more Katie wants to keep under wraps. Which is fine, but likely wont happen unless they get off their public platform all together.
I wonder if when she decided to clean up her life thats when she decided Cullen needed to clean up his. That's when all the codependency talk started happening. I do wish we knew what went down the days leading up to him going and staying with Britney and admitting the addiction though. I still think it was Katie's idea for him to get clean, which is why he's not really taking it as seriously as people think he should be. And why he suddenly needs NA to stop smoking weed, but drinking isn't the issue, bc Katie doesn't think it is.
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Playsinrain wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:43 am
FakingIt_MakingIt wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:31 am I would like to hear one day why Katie decided she had enough. I hope Cullen shares it, because at this point I believe the addicts version of events more then Katies.

I don't know if Katie used pot with him, but I could see it. And I know she doesn't have to use to enable his using...the things being said now just aren't adding up, and I think there is much, much more Katie wants to keep under wraps. Which is fine, but likely wont happen unless they get off their public platform all together.
I wonder if when she decided to clean up her life thats when she decided Cullen needed to clean up his. That's when all the codependency talk started happening. I do wish we knew what went down the days leading up to him going and staying with Britney and admitting the addiction though. I still think it was Katie's idea for him to get clean, which is why he's not really taking it as seriously as people think he should be. And why he suddenly needs NA to stop smoking weed, but drinking isn't the issue, bc Katie doesn't think it is.

Totally agree. I have seen addicts that are trying to turn their life around. They don’t act like Cullen.
It’ll all be swept under Katie’s rug, everything will be A-OK. Until it’s not again. That’s their pattern.
It’s sad really, I’m that first video Cullen seemed very aware that what he was doing was an issue. Now it’s coming off almost as a joke and a way to make interesting content.
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I still wonder if it’s all bullshit for views. Their channels are just about dead... no money coming in
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Catface2 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:11 am I still wonder if it’s all bullshit for views. Their channels are just about dead... no money coming in
I don’t think so. Many of us have suspected addiction for a couple of years. And honestly, Cullen was pretty raw in his first video and I don’t think he’s that great of an actor.
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JFC
It's STAPH infection, not "staff". Look something up once in a while. It's called a staph infection because it's caused by staphylococcus aureus. Was Cullen's earlier cellulitis MRSA? I can't remember if they said it was or not. Bet they don't know what that is, either. They probably just called it that because MRSA is a big deal. It's Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureus. Which means it's resistant to most antibiotics. I can just see them calling it that because a regular cellulitis isn't as scary.
I know her PhD isn't in biology, but Katie's dad is a doctor! We'll see if they change it later. If I was her dad, I would be so embarrassed.

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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:14 am
Catface2 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:11 am I still wonder if it’s all bullshit for views. Their channels are just about dead... no money coming in
I don’t think so. Many of us have suspected addiction for a couple of years. And honestly, Cullen was pretty raw in his first video and I don’t think he’s that great of an actor.

Yeah i don't think it's bullshit, but i do think that Katie's unwillingness to admit her own faults and her need to come off as picture perfect has discouraged Cullen from being as open as he would like to be. Which is also a pattern in their relationship. I've said it before, but if Cullen wants to be open and share everything, Katie should be supportive of that, since, you know... this isn't her problem at all.
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lmmomSD wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:38 am JFC
It's STAPH infection, not "staff". Look something up once in a while. It's called a staph infection because it's caused by staphylococcus aureus. Was Cullen's earlier cellulitis MRSA? I can't remember if they said it was or not. Bet they don't know what that is, either. They probably just called it that because MRSA is a big deal. It's Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureus. Which means it's resistant to most antibiotics. I can just see them calling it that because a regular cellulitis isn't as scary.
I know her PhD isn't in biology, but Katie's dad is a doctor! We'll see if they change it later. If I was her dad, I would be so embarrassed.

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They must have changed it bc it's right now... my phone always corrects staph to staff... every freaking time..
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I'm kinda sad to see the Scarface bathroom go!! LOL but i do really like the tile, especially the tile for the shower.. thats really pretty.
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Sorry i'm posting all over the place today, but Katie made the comment in response to Cullen talking about how much more painful hers must be bc his got so bad so quick they had him in the hospital and on pain meds within a few hours... Katie says "I mean they would probably give me something for pain right now if i asked for it, but that's probably the last thing we.. either of us need in our lives right now." If Katie doesn't have a problem with substance abuse, why would she be so concerned in accepting pain meds for a legit reason???? hmmmmmmmmm
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Playsinrain wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:08 am Sorry i'm posting all over the place today, but Katie made the comment in response to Cullen talking about how much more painful hers must be bc his got so bad so quick they had him in the hospital and on pain meds within a few hours... Katie says "I mean they would probably give me something for pain right now if i asked for it, but that's probably the last thing we.. either of us need in our lives right now." If Katie doesn't have a problem with substance abuse, why would she be so concerned in accepting pain meds for a legit reason???? hmmmmmmmmm
Well, if he really does have a serious problem, then Katie probably just doesn't want anything in the house to even tempt him. Addicts are known to steal things. I had a "friend" steal a bottle of Vicodin from my bathroom medicine cabinet that was left over from oral surgery once.
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Plus, if he is trying to stay clean, just having someone even legitimately on meds in front of him could be triggering. And having it in the house would definitely be hard. At some point, it probably won't be a big deal, but as new as Cullen is in recovery, it could make things difficult for him.

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I think this is how they function in everyday life, not just on YT. Something huge happens, it’s an issue for a day or two, then they put a bandaid on it until it blow up again, then they fight for two days, then it’s swept under the rug.....

This is how they’ve addressed every huge event so how are we surprised? I do think the addiction is very real, but so is the need to make money and Katie’s constant need for a cookie cutter life. They need to make “normal” vlogs for the money. Kids aren’t going to (or should I say hopefully won’t) watch a video about addiction. I don’t think Cullen ever intended on truly opening up about it because he knows more than anyone they need money. Katie needed this for her channel, and honestly so did the podcast. People are only going to watch videos about codependency for awhile and they will get bored but now that she can officially add “addiction” in the titles, people are going to be more intrigued to see if she gives any details since they aren’t on the family channel. She’s killing two birds with one stone — they admit Cullen is an addict, she starts including addiction talk in her videos, they make more money on all three channels.

They’ve functioned this way for years it’s not going to stop until something huge happens.
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ewokfan11 wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:12 pm
Playsinrain wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:08 am Sorry i'm posting all over the place today, but Katie made the comment in response to Cullen talking about how much more painful hers must be bc his got so bad so quick they had him in the hospital and on pain meds within a few hours... Katie says "I mean they would probably give me something for pain right now if i asked for it, but that's probably the last thing we.. either of us need in our lives right now." If Katie doesn't have a problem with substance abuse, why would she be so concerned in accepting pain meds for a legit reason???? hmmmmmmmmm
Well, if he really does have a serious problem, then Katie probably just doesn't want anything in the house to even tempt him. Addicts are known to steal things. I had a "friend" steal a bottle of Vicodin from my bathroom medicine cabinet that was left over from oral surgery once.
I get that, but on the other hand... she's not concerned with his drinking, or her drinking around him or keeping booze in the house, which doesn't make since sense he had admitted at first that his major issue was alcohol. Do you get what i'm saying? If katie needed the meds, she could buy a lock box and lock them up to keep Cullen from them. I mean god forbid something happen but what if katie fell down the stairs and broke her leg.. what would she do then? The way she said it made it sound like SHE was worried about having them in the house for herself. I completely understand the need to keep substances away from addicts, but it sounded like she was uneasy even taking them. The way she said it was just suspicious, and i'm suspect of her right now as it is... just come clean Katie!!!!!!!!!
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Please god switch the sense and since in your brain in that post ^ i just noticed my dyslexic ass flip flopped them and i'm nauseous...
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It sucks that she can't/won't take pain meds, I know she is in lots of pain. I have an acquaintance whose spouse is an addict. She had a c-section, he took her meds to get filled, she was discharged and he had taken all of her pain meds. She recovered from a c-section with tylenol. She is a puss, it was not pretty.
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lmmomSD wrote:If Cullen has only been "in recovery" for a couple of weeks, why is Katie uploading a video about handling relapse? It's not like he has been in some legit program and working it, and things were changing, and she took a deep breath and thought, "We're ok now" and then POW! Relapse. He's been to a few meetings and done a couple of podcasts. BFD.
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Thank you!!!!! She was quick to say “don’t ask me any questions” but also is speedy enough to be popping out videos left and right about his addiction and recovery.

Regardless of whether it was the type of question she was dodging or not, either you’re going to be open to talk and answer questions or you aren’t. Don’t act like you can only answer 3/10 questions but can make 9/10 videos about the topic.


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Wow! I've never had to do an insurance claim for anything at my house, but will their insurance cover their entire bathroom reno?? That's going to cost A FORTUNE! I'm thinking $15K-20K+. Especially hiring people to do all the work.

Makes me curious if Cullen staged the leak and let it go for weeks/months so they could file the claim. He said he knew it was leaking for weeks before he told Katie.
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