Julie Deru: Part One

[rdt1004]

Sounds like Landon isn’t as smart or as qualified as he thinks he is. But Julie will continue being the loving doting Mormon wife who doesn’t work and pops out babies while relying on handouts from their families.


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[Ducklings4]

I feel when you have four innocent lives depending on you, you make sacrifices and you go out get a job and support your family. I am not saying you should do a job you hate, but you do something. He could be a trainer at a local high school, and Julie could go back to work. I had friends who worked their hours around their kids needs, but it was a stable job with benefits, not YouTube.


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[glamour1225]

One aspect to Landon’s school is that student loans are deferred while in school. So if he keeps going to school he won’t have to be on a payment plan to pay all his student loans back. Plus he can get money for living expenses through his loans. So if he stops school he will have to pay back the loans plus stop getting the “income” from his living expenses portion of his loan. He is probably so in debt.


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[ewokfan11]

One aspect to Landon’s school is that student loans are deferred while in school. So if he keeps going to school he won’t have to be on a payment plan to pay all his student loans back. Plus he can get money for living expenses through his loans. So if he stops school he will have to pay back the loans plus stop getting the “income” from his living expenses portion of his loan. He is probably so in debt.

I think he's being forced to take a year off to re-apply. He's finishing his second masters this month (?), so he won't be a student after that. They said he'll be doing "research" and working on publishing, but that's not considered being an active student.

Yeah, they are definitely having some major problems right now. I think they just expected he'd be accepted and didn't consider the other options. He'll HAVE to get a job. Those student loan payments are probably going to be massive and they don't seem to have much income as it is.

[PBandJelly]

One aspect to Landon’s school is that student loans are deferred while in school. So if he keeps going to school he won’t have to be on a payment plan to pay all his student loans back. Plus he can get money for living expenses through his loans. So if he stops school he will have to pay back the loans plus stop getting the “income” from his living expenses portion of his loan. He is probably so in debt.

I think he's being forced to take a year off to re-apply. He's finishing his second masters this month (?), so he won't be a student after that. They said he'll be doing "research" and working on publishing, but that's not considered being an active student.

Yeah, they are definitely having some major problems right now. I think they just expected he'd be accepted and didn't consider the other options. He'll HAVE to get a job. Those student loan payments are probably going to be massive and they don't seem to have much income as it is.

Based on his linkedin resume, he had 5 years of undergrad, 2 years of medical school and 2 years of his masters. I have no idea if his parents helped pay for undergrad. Say they did. That is STILL 4 years of schooling. Tuition for med school and the MBA program was about $30,000 so They have to be at least 120,000$ in debt from tuition expenses alone (unless he got some sort of scholarship) not to mention debt associated with living expenses...

[gopedjane]

One aspect to Landon’s school is that student loans are deferred while in school. So if he keeps going to school he won’t have to be on a payment plan to pay all his student loans back. Plus he can get money for living expenses through his loans. So if he stops school he will have to pay back the loans plus stop getting the “income” from his living expenses portion of his loan. He is probably so in debt.

I think he's being forced to take a year off to re-apply. He's finishing his second masters this month (?), so he won't be a student after that. They said he'll be doing "research" and working on publishing, but that's not considered being an active student.

Yeah, they are definitely having some major problems right now. I think they just expected he'd be accepted and didn't consider the other options. He'll HAVE to get a job. Those student loan payments are probably going to be massive and they don't seem to have much income as it is.

Interesting thought, this could be why they are saying that they are in a hardship.

Also, back in the real world he'd be starting in entry level positions because of his actual lack of real life experience. I see this all the time at work, where we have fresh graduates pissed off about working entry level positions because you know, they are educated for better, but all the degrees in the world do not give you experience you need to actually work a position and produce quality work. Time and experience will get you there. Which is why he wants to get this PhD and then to graduate right into a Professorship. If I were him, I'd be getting into the workforce and start building that career because while company's are not allowed to discriminate on age they do and if he's 40 without any job experience on his resume he's going to lose out every time to the younger applicant with more experience. The education requirement just checks a box to be able to apply for a job, but it's what comes after on the resume that is going to get you the interviews. Not that you know the human body so good.

[YTIG60]

If Landon felt Julie needed to return to work, I don't know if her support would continue. She seems dead set against going back into nursing. I also question if Landon and Julie's parents support his decision. Julie and Landon's fathers have done well with traditional career paths and there is few times a parent gives advice to their adult children, but this might be one instance.
Julie and Landon both seem to be in denial with the possibility the same rejection could repeat itself next year when he reapplies to this program. I am puzzled when Landon applied for several job positions this past year, why he didn't receive one offer?

[Catface2]

Are they on welfare? How do they support 4 kids? That Costco basket looked pretty darn full.

[lmmomSD]

I feel when you have four innocent lives depending on you, you make sacrifices and you go out get a job and support your family. I am not saying you should do a job you hate, but you do something. He could be a trainer at a local high school, and Julie could go back to work. I had friends who worked their hours around their kids needs, but it was a stable job with benefits, not YouTube.


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When I worked as a nurse, there was a nurse couple who had a 4 year old daughter. We worked 12 hour shifts 3 days a week. So one would work day shift, and the other worked graveyard so there was always someone at home. And they had 4 days off a week to be together. If Landon went back to working at a high school, Julie could work mid shift or graveyard. And she probably wouldn't even have to work full time!

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[lmmomSD]

I do feel bad that BYU kind of led him on then let him down, but he is stuck on this dream of becoming a professor because he "loves teaching" and thinks they'll have the same 'lifestyle' as 8 Passengers. At the age of 32, with 4 kids, he can't keep waiting around to get into a PhD program. If he doesn't want Julie to work then he needs to find a stable career at this point. He should have followed Julie into nursing - and he still could.

Agreed.

I don’t watch J&L’s vlogs often but I know their story and their ups and downs with Landon’s schooling and career aspirations. I get feeling all over the place with your professional future—I’m there myself as I’m trying to grapple with what I want to do moving forward and how to best use my degree given the job opportunities and my other non-professional goals. The first thing I wish I could tell Landon is that while it is WONDERFUL that he wants to be a professor, the road to applying and actually getting a professorship is SO challenging and EXTREMELY competitive. For one, there are WAY more PhD candidates that graduate per year than actual available professorships… I seem to get the impression that both he and Julie think that once he gets into a PhD program and graduates, there will be a job offer waiting for him and they can carry on, smooth sailing with the rest of their lives. Academia doesn’t work that way… And just because you have two BSc, and two masters, you aren’t entitled to whatever you want.

I also feel like there might be more to the whole “I’m quitting medical school” story than they have let people know… Something just feels off with their narrative and maybe those details that they haven't spoken about publicly have contributed to his rejection from BYU and the school in Idaho or Iowa... I dont remember which state they said.

My sister got her PhD, and then worked as the best educated legal secretary in the land for 2 years before she got a job as a professor.
They need to really think about this.

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[YTIUH]

This is the case where being active on social media might prevent you from getting proper employment or from getting accepted into postgrad program. I imagine HR or admissions office search for a candidate on the internet and learn all kind of things including much big of a loser Landon actually is.

[YTIG60]

This is the case where being active on social media might prevent you from getting proper employment or from getting accepted into postgrad program. I imagine HR or admissions office search for a candidate on the internet and learn all kind of things including much big of a loser Landon actually is.

This is something I've questioned and you make a good point how a HR, potential employer or in this case a candidate for a graduate program has too much information for them to review. You can also lose a job due to social media. I'm not sure how well it helps his future with a spouse complaining about not being offered a job or not being accepted into a grad program and in my opinion, this isn't a professional look.

[blairwaldorf_]

I think Julie is already working. She said a few vlogs ago that she was updating her license in Utah. She could be working nights like she did in Missouri. This extra income plus youtube plus her share of the cookbook money is what they are floating on. I do mean Floating because they clearly are not living they are just floating by on whatever comes their way. I hate to be negative but part of me feels a tiny bit of joy that they are experiencing what us normal people experience. I feel like this family and some others on youtube live in a bubble. They get everything they want and live these unstressed lives, while the rest of are faced with crap at every turn we take and so many setbacks. We try every day and nothing while things just fall into their laps. So yes I know its wrong but I still think sarcastically, "like oh you didn't accepted into the program and you were mislead and are now in a ton of debt, oh that sounds awful it must really suck."

[Tinkerbell22]

I think Julie is already working. She said a few vlogs ago that she was updating her license in Utah. She could be working nights like she did in Missouri. This extra income plus youtube plus her share of the cookbook money is what they are floating on. I do mean Floating because they clearly are not living they are just floating by on whatever comes their way. I hate to be negative but part of me feels a tiny bit of joy that they are experiencing what us normal people experience. I feel like this family and some others on youtube live in a bubble. They get everything they want and live these unstressed lives, while the rest of are faced with crap at every turn we take and so many setbacks. We try every day and nothing while things just fall into their laps. So yes I know its wrong but I still think sarcastically, "like oh you didn't accepted into the program and you were mislead and are now in a ton of debt, oh that sounds awful it must really suck."

No way Julie is working outside of the house. She’s doing ads for sponsors but definitely not working a “real” job.

[YTIG60]

I think Julie is already working. She said a few vlogs ago that she was updating her license in Utah. She could be working nights like she did in Missouri. This extra income plus youtube plus her share of the cookbook money is what they are floating on. I do mean Floating because they clearly are not living they are just floating by on whatever comes their way. I hate to be negative but part of me feels a tiny bit of joy that they are experiencing what us normal people experience. I feel like this family and some others on youtube live in a bubble. They get everything they want and live these unstressed lives, while the rest of are faced with crap at every turn we take and so many setbacks. We try every day and nothing while things just fall into their laps. So yes I know its wrong but I still think sarcastically, "like oh you didn't accepted into the program and you were mislead and are now in a ton of debt, oh that sounds awful it must really suck."

That's is a quick change from just a few weeks ago in her Assumption about us vlog where you hear her say she wasn't returning to work or nursing. I think she did reactivate her Utah license, but I don't know if she was looking to work soon.
I haven't felt Julie has lived a stress free live since her YT channel isn't that successful and they live pretty tight. If she returns to work, I think this has to do with health insurance benefits since Landon doesn't have any. I remember watching Julie working weekend night shifts, being exhausted and she was looking forward to quitting when Landon got a job after graduating with his MBA. Working as a Nurse vlog from five months ago she said she didn't miss working as a nurse.
What recent vlog was it in where she talked about her license?

[Catface2]

Is Julie a CNA or RN?

[blairwaldorf_]

I think Julie is already working. She said a few vlogs ago that she was updating her license in Utah. She could be working nights like she did in Missouri. This extra income plus youtube plus her share of the cookbook money is what they are floating on. I do mean Floating because they clearly are not living they are just floating by on whatever comes their way. I hate to be negative but part of me feels a tiny bit of joy that they are experiencing what us normal people experience. I feel like this family and some others on youtube live in a bubble. They get everything they want and live these unstressed lives, while the rest of are faced with crap at every turn we take and so many setbacks. We try every day and nothing while things just fall into their laps. So yes I know its wrong but I still think sarcastically, "like oh you didn't accepted into the program and you were mislead and are now in a ton of debt, oh that sounds awful it must really suck."

That's is a quick change from just a few weeks ago in her Assumption about us vlog where you hear her say she wasn't returning to work or nursing. I think she did reactivate her Utah license, but I don't know if she was looking to work soon.
I haven't felt Julie has lived a stress free live since her YT channel isn't that successful and they live pretty tight. If she returns to work, I think this has to do with health insurance benefits since Landon doesn't have any. I remember watching Julie working weekend night shifts, being exhausted and she was looking forward to quitting when Landon got a job after graduating with his MBA. Working as a Nurse vlog from five months ago she said she didn't miss working as a nurse.
What recent vlog was it in where she talked about her license?

I don't remember off the top of my head which vlog, but she waving an envelope while she was was talking to landon and said to the camera why am i waving this around and started telling the vlog how she was transfering her license.

[lmmomSD]

Is Julie a CNA or RN?

RN. She's the only Griffiths girl with a degree.

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[blairwaldorf_]

Is Julie a CNA or RN?

I believe she has a two year RN.

[YTIUH]

I don’t want to watch their latest vlog about a motorhome... did they buy it? Are they going to turn into the van-lifers?