John and Joan: 11 Hours of Pushing Lies | Part 3

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Post by lmmomSD » Mon May 13, 2019 7:56 pm

Poor Vera. Even Mother's Day is all about Maeve.
Since she probably reads here, no, Joan. Nobody expects you to "get over" losing Maeve. That's not what anyone has said. What would be great, though, would be for you to really appreciate the amazing daughter you _have_. Do some posts about her, and how much you love her. Without mentioning her dead sister or having a fox in the photo. Celebrate Vera. Just Vera. No one is going to forget about Maeve.

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Post by Sanemama » Sun May 19, 2019 5:50 am

aral12 wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:58 pm
We just found out that our rainbow baby we are expecting in Spring is a girl. We have always been set on our first name and were leaning towards “Mae” as the middle name.... my wife suggested Maeve as an alternative and oh my goodness, it’s crazy how much the association with them has turned me off such a beautiful name!


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Oh I get it! Wishing you all the best with your rainbow baby.
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Post by FlowersTar 68 » Sat May 25, 2019 9:17 am

She doesn't seem to want Vera to be mobile.
I follow a celebrity couple on Instagram who had a boy in August and he's on the verge of walking. I hate comparing baby milestones but I feel Joan is holding her back
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Post by DreamLead » Sat May 25, 2019 5:20 pm

I don't think I've ever seen Vera left alone on the floor to crawl around or explore. Joan is constantly holding onto her like a newborn baby???
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Post by FlowersTar 68 » Sun May 26, 2019 9:58 am

He's posted on Insta stories, they are out in the garden and Vera is in her high chair having her food! Why can't they put her on a rug on the grass with her food on paper plates so she can move around a bit?
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Post by 1000Words » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:21 am

Instead of realizing that Vera already has some special needs and addressing such they are going to run out and have another baby. What if this one has special needs too. Can John handle it? Will Joan finally lose her mind?
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Post by FlowersTar 68 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:00 pm

In the new bathroom video she put Vera on the changing table but was not really letting her go. I'm sure Vera would have been fine if Joan just let go a bit... Obviously I don't mean walk away from her but just not be so clingy.
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Post by GetYouTubesTied » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:57 am

1000Words wrote:Instead of realizing that Vera already has some special needs and addressing such they are going to run out and have another baby. What if this one has special needs too. Can John handle it? Will Joan finally lose her mind?
What special needs are you referring to? I mean I read this thread casually and have seen posts about Vera not moving around much on her own, but does that qualify for a special need? Am I missing something lol?

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Post by SassySassenach » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:14 am

At first glance, I just assumed this was a “nursery is finally set up” photo. Like prior to actually properly setting the crib level. But in the comments Joan admits that V is sleeping in the crib with it up that high.
She also mentions in the comments that V is in physical therapy, someone asked what for, no response so far.

So does this mean V isn’t even bringing herself to sitting on her own? Because that’s when the crib should be lowered.

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Post by MommaLindsey2 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:18 am

SassySassenach wrote:At first glance, I just assumed this was a “nursery is finally set up” photo. Like prior to actually properly setting the crib level. But in the comments Joan admits that V is sleeping in the crib with it up that high.
She also mentions in the comments that V is in physical therapy, someone asked what for, no response so far.

So does this mean V isn’t even bringing herself to sitting on her own? Because that’s when the crib should be lowered.

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If she is in physical therapy I’m happy they are addressing her issues instead of ignoring them. I personally know a couple who’s daughter didn’t pull up or walk until nearly 3 years old due to them not getting her the help she needed. Image


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Post by fossilfinger » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:13 am

Since Joan is planning to wean Vera, that must mean they want to start the IVF process soon. Has she ever mentioned actually talking to a doctor about it to see if her ideal timeline is possible, or does she just assume they'll be able to do it within the next few months?
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Post by FlowersTar 68 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:21 am

fossilfinger wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:13 am
Since Joan is planning to wean Vera, that must mean they want to start the IVF process soon. Has she ever mentioned actually talking to a doctor about it to see if her ideal timeline is possible, or does she just assume they'll be able to do it within the next few months?
Looks like she has answered your question over on Instagram.

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Post by 1000Words » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:53 am

In
Her instagram story pic where V is standing at the tub her arms and legs look so short. Her head and torso larger. She looks like a little person.
Shouldn’t she be in occupational therapy for her lack
Of movement????
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Post by Spoink_12 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:13 am

1000Words wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:53 am
In
Her instagram story pic where V is standing at the tub her arms and legs look so short. Her head and torso larger. She looks like a little person.
Shouldn’t she be in occupational therapy for her lack
Of movement????

She's always looked like she has really short arms and that they are different lengths. But that picture makes it look like her legs are short too.
Definitely looks like some kind of dwarfism. Her torso and head don't look proportionate to her legs and arms
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Post by Edenberry » Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:55 am

Going through the IG pictures...it does seem like V is disproportionate to the right. She is often tilted to the left with that side seeming a lot longer in the arm and leg. That could just be coincidence/picture posture/ but I was going through my own kids infant photos around 1 year of age (they're on the short side) but their arms and legs looked more proportionate to their heads and torso. V's torso and head do look a lot bigger than her limbs.

Again, this could all just be the photo. Her cloth diapers are big and can cut off her legs in pictures, but since she is confirmed in PT (which is AWESOME, btw), they are aware and she's geting what she needs.
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Post by FlowersTar 68 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:57 am

I've noticed for a long while that her right arm looks shorter than her left, hadn't noticed the legs though. You can see it more in the monthly photo she does, you can swipe on all of them on month 10.
I'm so glad too they are seeking therapy for whatever reason. It can only be a good thing, but please Joan, put that baby down, she can't be mobile if she is always being carried.
Also, change your profile picture to one with Vera in it, she is your alive baby.
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Post by gopedjane » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:03 am

Spoink_12 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:13 am
1000Words wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:53 am
In
Her instagram story pic where V is standing at the tub her arms and legs look so short. Her head and torso larger. She looks like a little person.
Shouldn’t she be in occupational therapy for her lack
Of movement????

She's always looked like she has really short arms and that they are different lengths. But that picture makes it look like her legs are short too.
Definitely looks like some kind of dwarfism. Her torso and head don't look proportionate to her legs and arms
I don't think so at all. My son is totally built like that, long torso and shorter legs. I looked at the pictures and she looks totally normal to me. My son still wears a size larger in shirt than pants with the sleeves rolled up.
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Post by Edenberry » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:43 am

After ALL the fuss she's put up over being triggered by old friends who got pregnant/not being able to be around their children, she has the audacity to post this.
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Post by GGF1987 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:51 pm

FlowersTar 68 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:57 am
I've noticed for a long while that her right arm looks shorter than her left, hadn't noticed the legs though. You can see it more in the monthly photo she does, you can swipe on all of them on month 10.
I'm so glad too they are seeking therapy for whatever reason. It can only be a good thing, but please Joan, put that baby down, she can't be mobile if she is always being carried.
Also, change your profile picture to one with Vera in it, she is your alive baby.
I thought it was because of the bulky cloth diaper but even in the early photos when she's in a disposable something looks off. I agree about putting her down and the profile picture.
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Post by FlowersTar 68 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:33 am

A "portion" from all sales will be going to charity up until the 10th June.
What is a "portion" I wonder? She never tells us what percentage nor the total she actually donates.
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Post by 131618 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:37 pm

Edenberry wrote:After ALL the fuss she's put up over being triggered by old friends who got pregnant/not being able to be around their children, she has the audacity to post this.
Wow...hypocritical much Joan

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Post by Kryptonite » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:47 pm

Edenberry wrote:After ALL the fuss she's put up over being triggered by old friends who got pregnant/not being able to be around their children, she has the audacity to post this.
Woooow. She must've forgotten that she was one of those extreme women who needed a plaque in her child's name hung to be around other breastfeeding mothers.
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Post by Playsinrain » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:39 am

Wonder if she forgot all those friends she lost after Maeve died bc she was so triggered by them not knowing what to say to her in the moment. the ones that sent cards but didn't call or have a long conversation with her at the funeral were cut off bc SHE was so triggered. Like someone above me said, what about how triggered you were Joan, when your friends had babies and you cut them off bc they were happy about having children.. or simply posted about those babies and you got triggered and now won't speak to them. You are literally the woman who cut herself off from everyone you know bc YOU were so triggered by life going on around you that you couldn't cope. She has some damn nerve posting something like that when she is the most "triggered" person i've ever seen!!!
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Post by FlowersTar 68 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:50 am

Well said to the 3 previous posters. Joan really needs to look at herself more, and to read here.
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Post by lmmomSD » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:32 pm

FlowersTar 68 wrote:Well said to the 3 previous posters. Joan really needs to look at herself more, and to read here.
John has read here. We're just mean haters.

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