Bonnie Hoellein: Bollievard of Broken Dreams | Part 54

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I wonder if they have looked into Boston being so tiny?
My daughter is very small for her age and her doc did some genetic testing to make sure it wasn’t a medical problem.

With education, I think it comes second to them. Their religion and their status comes first. Neither Bonnie or Joel seem educated. I’d never be able to be friends with them because I’m pretty sure they can’t hold a conversation. She’s either doing that high pitched laugh or crying. It would drive me nuts!

I think their just not genetically smart people. I don’t know that their religion comes before academics because they’re not overly into the church either and a LOT of what they say and do is against church standards. Their image definitely comes first though. As long as they look the part of a happy, Mormon family that’s all that matters. I think it’s something Jennifer taught them, and her mom probably instilled it in her.

[HelloSweetie]

I think their just not genetically smart people. I don’t know that their religion comes before academics because they’re not overly into the church either and a LOT of what they say and do is against church standards. Their image definitely comes first though. As long as they look the part of a happy, Mormon family that’s all that matters. I think it’s something Jennifer taught them, and her mom probably instilled it in her.

I don’t know about Chad, but I follow Jennifer on IG and she’s about as smart as Ellie is. I do think the church prioritizes wine being mothers over careers/education, but I also agree with you that the Griffiths age how they are largely because of how they were raised. It’s hard to be smart when your parents aren’t. Most of the Griffiths grandchildren are in trouble. Even the husbands aren’t near as smart as they think they are.

But my guess is that Beau’s kids will be fine. Emily has a mind of her own.




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[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I think their just not genetically smart people. I don’t know that their religion comes before academics because they’re not overly into the church either and a LOT of what they say and do is against church standards. Their image definitely comes first though. As long as they look the part of a happy, Mormon family that’s all that matters. I think it’s something Jennifer taught them, and her mom probably instilled it in her.

I don’t know about Chad, but I follow Jennifer on IG and she’s about as smart as Ellie is. I do think the church prioritizes wine being mothers over careers/education, but I also agree with you that the Griffiths age how they are largely because of how they were raised. It’s hard to be smart when your parents aren’t. Most of the Griffiths grandchildren are in trouble. Even the husbands aren’t near as smart as they think they are.

But my guess is that Beau’s kids will be fine. Emily has a mind of her own.




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I totally agree about Beaus kids. That brings up the point that the Griffith lack of knowledge doesn’t come from church teachings though, because Emily was raised LDS and she is nothing like the Griffith girls. From the little we see if Emily she is pretty much what I would consider a typical Mormon lady to be.
Ruby, Bonnie, Julie and Ellie (and Jennifer) are a special breed lol. I actually think Ruby and Julie have an interest in learning, for the most part they seem receptive to the constructive criticism/suggestions but Bonnie and Ellie are adamant that they know everything.
I worry about Olivia though. She really struggles with academics and her parents don’t help her at all. And then the flip side, if we go with Bonnie and Joel not worrying about her education because her ultimate goal is to be a mom of many children, well they’re not teaching her that either really. As much as I think Jennifer failed her children she did instill some basic life/home management skills. The girls mostly know how to cook, and they know how to keep a clean home but Olivia isn’t learning any of that. Meals at their home are lacking big time, and even with what is made they never show Olivia helping, and I’m willing to bet someone other then Bonnie cleans their home. So what are they teaching Olivia? If academics aren’t important and they’re not really preparing her for motherhood then what is important??

*In no way do I think Olivia should be taught to be a mother over an actual academic education, I’m just trying to see it from what could potentially be Bonnie and Joel’s point of view.

[YTIG60]

I do like their vlogs where they show family all together celebrating a special day for Cody. Hitting baseballs, have a picnic lunch under a pavilion with grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins is showing a typical American family enjoying time together. Is E&J in Florida?
I looked at Olivia's baptism and it was nicely done too. I did noticed Joel looks better without a beard and I don't know if his hair transplant will make a big difference? I might have Cody see a specialist about his height just to be sure nothing is being missed. I get the impression he might not be even as tall as Joel?

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I haven’t watched the vlog yet, this is purely from the thumbnail. Why did Bonnie wear all white for CODY’S baptism?? Is she just trying to bring attention back to her? The only ones who typically wear all white for a bapstism is the one getting baptized and the one doing the baptizing. It’s not a temple ceremony, there was no need for Bonnie to show up in all white!

[YTIG60]

I haven’t watched the vlog yet, this is purely from the thumbnail. Why did Bonnie wear all white for CODY’S baptism?? Is she just trying to bring attention back to her? The only ones who typically wear all white for a bapstism is the one getting baptized and the one doing the baptizing. It’s not a temple ceremony, there was no need for Bonnie to show up in all white!

I didn't know this and Bonnie wore red at Olivia's baptism? Did Joel baptise Cody like he did with Olivia?

[Sickandtired]

I haven’t watched the vlog yet, this is purely from the thumbnail. Why did Bonnie wear all white for CODY’S baptism?? Is she just trying to bring attention back to her? The only ones who typically wear all white for a bapstism is the one getting baptized and the one doing the baptizing. It’s not a temple ceremony, there was no need for Bonnie to show up in all white!

Because she is a narcissist. The attention has to be on her weather it be good or bad. You can thank her mother for that. My mother in law wore a white dress to my wedding to try and one up me. I was upset and told her how rude she was and I told her the mothers were suppose to wear black and teal not white. She just shrugged and told me to “get use to it, I don’t follow directions I do my own thing.” Bonnie has the same attitude. All narcissists do.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I haven’t watched the vlog yet, this is purely from the thumbnail. Why did Bonnie wear all white for CODY’S baptism?? Is she just trying to bring attention back to her? The only ones who typically wear all white for a bapstism is the one getting baptized and the one doing the baptizing. It’s not a temple ceremony, there was no need for Bonnie to show up in all white!

I didn't know this and Bonnie wore red at Olivia's baptism? Did Joel baptise Cody like he did with Olivia?

The red is totally fine, it would have been way more appropriate then the all white dress. Her blue Bollie dress would have been perfect actually, it would have complemented Joel’s suit and the boys pants which would have looked great in pictures and still have let Cody be the Center of attention.
I would assume Joel baptized Cody.

[ba1006]

I do like their vlogs where they show family all together celebrating a special day for Cody. Hitting baseballs, have a picnic lunch under a pavilion with grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins is showing a typical American family enjoying time together. Is E&J in Florida?
I looked at Olivia's baptism and it was nicely done too. I did noticed Joel looks better without a beard and I don't know if his hair transplant will make a big difference? I might have Cody see a specialist about his height just to be sure nothing is being missed. I get the impression he might not be even as tall as Joel?

That was a nice vlog today. Everyone seemed to get along. I don't remember seeing Ruby but maybe I just missed it. Joel did look better. As far as Cody being small, Bonnie saying the Heavenly Father made him that way made me laugh. Maybe the fact that his parents are on the short side made him that way but explaining genetics would just confuse her.

[gopedjane]

I do like their vlogs where they show family all together celebrating a special day for Cody. Hitting baseballs, have a picnic lunch under a pavilion with grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins is showing a typical American family enjoying time together. Is E&J in Florida?
I looked at Olivia's baptism and it was nicely done too. I did noticed Joel looks better without a beard and I don't know if his hair transplant will make a big difference? I might have Cody see a specialist about his height just to be sure nothing is being missed. I get the impression he might not be even as tall as Joel?

Hopefully they are having him checked, he doesn’t even appear to be growing at this point while his siblings are around him. Olivia won’t be tall either with the height of the women in their family and she is growing steadily ahead of him although girls get to their peak height before boys.

Those pictures of Bonnie are edited poorly, which is why her eye is so wonky in the one. They didn’t check her face after the edit they were just checking the body.

[Sickandtired]

How long before this happens to Bonnie? We all know her kids missed roughly this many school days during the school year, because she doesn’t care about education.

[HelloSweetie]

I haven’t watched the vlog yet, this is purely from the thumbnail. Why did Bonnie wear all white for CODY’S baptism?? Is she just trying to bring attention back to her? The only ones who typically wear all white for a bapstism is the one getting baptized and the one doing the baptizing. It’s not a temple ceremony, there was no need for Bonnie to show up in all white!

Based on the pic on IG, they all wore white.


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[queenc13]

Look at Bonnie’s leg up around her knee... the weird pockets of fat.


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Mmmmm she had pretty significant knee surgery when she was younger. Could be skin or fat sitting above scar tissue, which is very common for scars sitting in places with little fat tissue or heavy muscle tissue when you are young.

[queenc13]

I do like their vlogs where they show family all together celebrating a special day for Cody. Hitting baseballs, have a picnic lunch under a pavilion with grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins is showing a typical American family enjoying time together. Is E&J in Florida?
I looked at Olivia's baptism and it was nicely done too. I did noticed Joel looks better without a beard and I don't know if his hair transplant will make a big difference? I might have Cody see a specialist about his height just to be sure nothing is being missed. I get the impression he might not be even as tall as Joel?

Hopefully they are having him checked, he doesn’t even appear to be growing at this point while his siblings are around him. Olivia won’t be tall either with the height of the women in their family and she is growing steadily ahead of him although girls get to their peak height before boys.

Those pictures of Bonnie are edited poorly, which is why her eye is so wonky in the one. They didn’t check her face after the edit they were just checking the body.

I don’t think that her eye situation in that picture was a matter of poor editing. Her eyes have been crazy like that in a few pictures. I think it’s the way she holds her mouth now + the suuuuuuper arching of one eyebrow. I very, very much doubt Bonnie would forget to look at her own face before posting. I think she just thinks that lip situation and face is attractive.

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

I haven’t watched the vlog yet, this is purely from the thumbnail. Why did Bonnie wear all white for CODY’S baptism?? Is she just trying to bring attention back to her? The only ones who typically wear all white for a bapstism is the one getting baptized and the one doing the baptizing. It’s not a temple ceremony, there was no need for Bonnie to show up in all white!

Based on the pic on IG, they all wore white.


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No. Joel is in all white, which he should be if he’s the one bapstising Cody. Later in the vlog Joel changes into his suit. And the picture shows only the tops of the boys shirts, which are white church shirts, which are totally normal. They wore dark blue plants. Olivia is in a pink (maybe orange, not going back to rewatch). Cody is the only one (other then Joel prebaptism and during the actual baptism) who should have worn white. Bonnie was out of place and obviously trying to direct attention off of cost and onto herself.

[sheltiefan]

The vlog was nice. Showing the extended family have a great time visiting with each other was good. I didn't care for them showing footage of the church part of Cody's baptism. I agreed with what Ruby said in a vlog she had of one of her kids baptism-I think it was Abby. She said I'm not going to vlog in the service because it was sacred and did family get together and thoughts about the child being baptized. I think it was fine to video it but would rather have that be just for their private viewing. The main reason I felt that way was when Bonnie said it felt weird to video it, but anything for the vlog!

[Todays drama]

Is it typical for Mormons to Baptize at this age? As Christians we Baptize as early as possible and limit travel outside until the baby is Blessed.
Someone mentioned the way Bonnies high waisted pants look tight in the crotch area. I read that youtubers stand with their back arched to make heir abdomen look slimmer. I think thats what makes the pants look tighter down there. Looks awfully uncomfortable!

[FakingIt_MakingIt]

Is it typical for Mormons to Baptize at this age? As Christians we Baptize as early as possible and limit travel outside until the baby is Blessed.
Someone mentioned the way Bonnies high waisted pants look tight in the crotch area. I read that youtubers stand with their back arched to make heir abdomen look slimmer. I think thats what makes the pants look tighter down there. Looks awfully uncomfortable!

Yes. Babies get a fathers blessing, usually in church during sacrament meeting, and usually around 6 weeks old. And then at age 8 children are giving the option to be baptized into the religion.
Also, just a note, Mormons are indeed Christians .

[Todays drama]

Is it typical for Mormons to Baptize at this age? As Christians we Baptize as early as possible and limit travel outside until the baby is Blessed.
Someone mentioned the way Bonnies high waisted pants look tight in the crotch area. I read that youtubers stand with their back arched to make heir abdomen look slimmer. I think thats what makes the pants look tighter down there. Looks awfully uncomfortable!

Yes. Babies get a fathers blessing, usually in church during sacrament meeting, and usually around 6 weeks old. And then at age 8 children are giving the option to be baptized into the religion.
Also, just a note, Mormons are indeed Christians .

Thank you for explaining your Baptism process. I knew Mormons follow Christianity. It's like our children making their Communion at 8, Mormons Baptize into their religion at 8. Its basically the same. Thanks again for the info.

[HelloSweetie]

As an Agnostic, I have no issue with baptisms, but don’t feel 8 is an appropriate age for consent. At least as babies there isn’t the illusion that it’s a decision they are making of their own free will.

I also side-eye the gender disparity within the church. Boys as young as 16 can perform baptisms, but a woman of any age cannot. Women are ineligible to be ordained into the priesthood. A study was done in 2015 polling the members regarding whether they would support female ordination. Only 10% said YES. Gender roles and sexism is severely at play and that’s ok with everyone.


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