John and Joan: 11 Hours of Pushing Lies | Part 3

[fossilfinger]

Since Joan is planning to wean Vera, that must mean they want to start the IVF process soon. Has she ever mentioned actually talking to a doctor about it to see if her ideal timeline is possible, or does she just assume they'll be able to do it within the next few months?

[FlowersTar 68]

Since Joan is planning to wean Vera, that must mean they want to start the IVF process soon. Has she ever mentioned actually talking to a doctor about it to see if her ideal timeline is possible, or does she just assume they'll be able to do it within the next few months?

Looks like she has answered your question over on Instagram.

Hi Joan *waves

[1000Words]

In
Her instagram story pic where V is standing at the tub her arms and legs look so short. Her head and torso larger. She looks like a little person.
Shouldn’t she be in occupational therapy for her lack
Of movement????

[Spoink_12]

In
Her instagram story pic where V is standing at the tub her arms and legs look so short. Her head and torso larger. She looks like a little person.
Shouldn’t she be in occupational therapy for her lack
Of movement????

She's always looked like she has really short arms and that they are different lengths. But that picture makes it look like her legs are short too.
Definitely looks like some kind of dwarfism. Her torso and head don't look proportionate to her legs and arms

[Edenberry]

Going through the IG pictures...it does seem like V is disproportionate to the right. She is often tilted to the left with that side seeming a lot longer in the arm and leg. That could just be coincidence/picture posture/ but I was going through my own kids infant photos around 1 year of age (they're on the short side) but their arms and legs looked more proportionate to their heads and torso. V's torso and head do look a lot bigger than her limbs.

Again, this could all just be the photo. Her cloth diapers are big and can cut off her legs in pictures, but since she is confirmed in PT (which is AWESOME, btw), they are aware and she's geting what she needs.

[FlowersTar 68]

I've noticed for a long while that her right arm looks shorter than her left, hadn't noticed the legs though. You can see it more in the monthly photo she does, you can swipe on all of them on month 10.
I'm so glad too they are seeking therapy for whatever reason. It can only be a good thing, but please Joan, put that baby down, she can't be mobile if she is always being carried.
Also, change your profile picture to one with Vera in it, she is your alive baby.

[gopedjane]

In
Her instagram story pic where V is standing at the tub her arms and legs look so short. Her head and torso larger. She looks like a little person.
Shouldn’t she be in occupational therapy for her lack
Of movement????

She's always looked like she has really short arms and that they are different lengths. But that picture makes it look like her legs are short too.
Definitely looks like some kind of dwarfism. Her torso and head don't look proportionate to her legs and arms

I don't think so at all. My son is totally built like that, long torso and shorter legs. I looked at the pictures and she looks totally normal to me. My son still wears a size larger in shirt than pants with the sleeves rolled up.

[Edenberry]

After ALL the fuss she's put up over being triggered by old friends who got pregnant/not being able to be around their children, she has the audacity to post this.

[GGF1987]

I've noticed for a long while that her right arm looks shorter than her left, hadn't noticed the legs though. You can see it more in the monthly photo she does, you can swipe on all of them on month 10.
I'm so glad too they are seeking therapy for whatever reason. It can only be a good thing, but please Joan, put that baby down, she can't be mobile if she is always being carried.
Also, change your profile picture to one with Vera in it, she is your alive baby.

I thought it was because of the bulky cloth diaper but even in the early photos when she's in a disposable something looks off. I agree about putting her down and the profile picture.

[FlowersTar 68]

A "portion" from all sales will be going to charity up until the 10th June.
What is a "portion" I wonder? She never tells us what percentage nor the total she actually donates.

[131618]

After ALL the fuss she's put up over being triggered by old friends who got pregnant/not being able to be around their children, she has the audacity to post this.

Wow...hypocritical much Joan

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[Playsinrain]

Wonder if she forgot all those friends she lost after Maeve died bc she was so triggered by them not knowing what to say to her in the moment. the ones that sent cards but didn't call or have a long conversation with her at the funeral were cut off bc SHE was so triggered. Like someone above me said, what about how triggered you were Joan, when your friends had babies and you cut them off bc they were happy about having children.. or simply posted about those babies and you got triggered and now won't speak to them. You are literally the woman who cut herself off from everyone you know bc YOU were so triggered by life going on around you that you couldn't cope. She has some damn nerve posting something like that when she is the most "triggered" person i've ever seen!!!

[FlowersTar 68]

Well said to the 3 previous posters. Joan really needs to look at herself more, and to read here.

[lmmomSD]

Well said to the 3 previous posters. Joan really needs to look at herself more, and to read here.

John has read here. We're just mean haters.

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[FlowersTar 68]

Well said to the 3 previous posters. Joan really needs to look at herself more, and to read here.

John has read here. We're just mean haters.

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Oh, I know he does, that's how I found this forum, he did a screenshot of some posts so I came over to take a look.

[aral12]

After ALL the fuss she's put up over being triggered by old friends who got pregnant/not being able to be around their children, she has the audacity to post this.

If you take the time to read it.... she’s not talking about alive, rainbow babies. It’s talking about stillborn/ miscarried/ deceased babies.

I read it and was thinking WOW, what a step in the right direction (albeit hypocritical) and then finished it and realised she was justifying her copious amounts of photos of Maeve, not Vera.


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[actuallydear]

After ALL the fuss she's put up over being triggered by old friends who got pregnant/not being able to be around their children, she has the audacity to post this.

If you take the time to read it.... she’s not talking about alive, rainbow babies. It’s talking about stillborn/ miscarried/ deceased babies.

I read it and was thinking WOW, what a step in the right direction (albeit hypocritical) and then finished it and realised she was justifying her copious amounts of photos of Maeve, not Vera.


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I thought that too but it was posted by Pregnancy After Loss.

Sooo...


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[lmmomSD]

After ALL the fuss she's put up over being triggered by old friends who got pregnant/not being able to be around their children, she has the audacity to post this.

If you take the time to read it.... she’s not talking about alive, rainbow babies. It’s talking about stillborn/ miscarried/ deceased babies.

I read it and was thinking WOW, what a step in the right direction (albeit hypocritical) and then finished it and realised she was justifying her copious amounts of photos of Maeve, not Vera.


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I thought that too but it was posted by Pregnancy After Loss.

Sooo...


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Ooooh. I thought it was about the deceased babies too.
Now I'm confused. Either way, it's an odd post coming from her. I get that she loved Maeve and wouldn't wish what happened to her on anyone, but _still_ posting pictures of her, especially next to Vera, is odd. And if it's about rainbow babies, she is a huge hypocrite. Which doesn't surprise me. Nothing she does indicates any level of self-examination. Just being self- absorbed. Which isn't the same thing.

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[SassySassenach]

If you take the time to read it.... she’s not talking about alive, rainbow babies. It’s talking about stillborn/ miscarried/ deceased babies.

I read it and was thinking WOW, what a step in the right direction (albeit hypocritical) and then finished it and realised she was justifying her copious amounts of photos of Maeve, not Vera.


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I thought that too but it was posted by Pregnancy After Loss.

Sooo...


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Ooooh. I thought it was about the deceased babies too.
Now I'm confused. Either way, it's an odd post coming from her. I get that she loved Maeve and wouldn't wish what happened to her on anyone, but _still_ posting pictures of her, especially next to Vera, is odd. And if it's about rainbow babies, she is a huge hypocrite. Which doesn't surprise me. Nothing she does indicates any level of self-examination. Just being self- absorbed. Which isn't the same thing.

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I haven’t been following Joan as long as some of you. However, from what I’ve seen, she will change whatever narrative to suit her & then turn that same narrative around to undermine the feelings of others.

She just posted today about taking “dear Abby” to task over a response about a deceased baby. I have losses, I have friends with losses.... we don’t plan extravagant parties that our family attends for our lost littles. We have quiet, personal moments of reflection, and save the big celebrations for our living children. And I certainly don’t spend hundreds of dollars (that I claim not to have) on effing butterflies....

Poor Vera... forever in the shadow of a ghost....


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[Edenberry]

After ALL the fuss she's put up over being triggered by old friends who got pregnant/not being able to be around their children, she has the audacity to post this.

If you take the time to read it.... she’s not talking about alive, rainbow babies. It’s talking about stillborn/ miscarried/ deceased babies.

I read it and was thinking WOW, what a step in the right direction (albeit hypocritical) and then finished it and realised she was justifying her copious amounts of photos of Maeve, not Vera.


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I thought that too but it was posted by Pregnancy After Loss.

Sooo...


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I knew she was referring to the pictures of Maeve. That's why I said it was hypocritical of her to post that when she was so triggered by pictures/friends who were pregnant and had live babies back in the day.