Steps to faking followers and fertility issues | Part #6

[TellAll]

While the speech delay (echolalia) and the walking issue would be cause for concern to me as a parent, I have zero experience with autism or diagnosing it. From what I know as a layperson, speech delays like echolalia are commonly associated with autism. I would never diagnose a child, let alone via YouTube. But I totally understand if you have personal experience with it and see similarities. I would definitely be talking to my pediatrician and getting a referral to a specialist, but as a parent I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions just yet. It could just be a speech delay. Echolalia is an important first step towards normal language development, it becomes problematic when the toddler doesn't progress beyond that and begin using her own words the majority of the time. From what I've read, a two-year-old should theoretically be at that point, so she could just be behind for any number of reasons. A professional would need to evaluate and work with her before they would know if it's a sign of autism or not.

What speech delays to do you see?? My daughter is 2 months younger than June and June way surpasses my daughter with speech. My daughter has both a lip and tongue tie but still her pediatrician and pediatric dentist tell me she’s right on track for speech. Every child is different and June definitely seems to be hitting every milestone with her speech as far as I can tell. I think people are definitely reaching and looking for something to complain about when they throw around “speech delays” and “autism”. There’s many more things K&C are doing wrong but making sure June is hitting milestones is not one of them.


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[scojacar]

While the speech delay (echolalia) and the walking issue would be cause for concern to me as a parent, I have zero experience with autism or diagnosing it. From what I know as a layperson, speech delays like echolalia are commonly associated with autism. I would never diagnose a child, let alone via YouTube. But I totally understand if you have personal experience with it and see similarities. I would definitely be talking to my pediatrician and getting a referral to a specialist, but as a parent I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions just yet. It could just be a speech delay. Echolalia is an important first step towards normal language development, it becomes problematic when the toddler doesn't progress beyond that and begin using her own words the majority of the time. From what I've read, a two-year-old should theoretically be at that point, so she could just be behind for any number of reasons. A professional would need to evaluate and work with her before they would know if it's a sign of autism or not.

What speech delays to do you see?? My daughter is 2 months younger than June and June way surpasses my daughter with speech. My daughter has both a lip and tongue tie but still her pediatrician and pediatric dentist tell me she’s right on track for speech. Every child is different and June definitely seems to be hitting every milestone with her speech as far as I can tell. I think people are definitely reaching and looking for something to complain about when they throw around “speech delays” and “autism”. There’s many more things K&C are doing wrong but making sure June is hitting milestones is not one of them.


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The delays don’t seem to be with her forming words—she speaks quite clearly—but with forming her own words. She only ever repeats what has just been said. (For example, if someone asks her, “Do you want to go to the park?” she says, “Go to the park,” rather than actually responding to the question.) We’ve rarely, if ever, seen her form her own sentence rather than just echo what someone else has said. Of course, we only see a few minutes out of every day. None of us know enough to say she for sure has a speech delay. But from what we do see, it seems like there’s something going on.


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[HashtagBlessed]

While the speech delay (echolalia) and the walking issue would be cause for concern to me as a parent, I have zero experience with autism or diagnosing it. From what I know as a layperson, speech delays like echolalia are commonly associated with autism. I would never diagnose a child, let alone via YouTube. But I totally understand if you have personal experience with it and see similarities. I would definitely be talking to my pediatrician and getting a referral to a specialist, but as a parent I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions just yet. It could just be a speech delay. Echolalia is an important first step towards normal language development, it becomes problematic when the toddler doesn't progress beyond that and begin using her own words the majority of the time. From what I've read, a two-year-old should theoretically be at that point, so she could just be behind for any number of reasons. A professional would need to evaluate and work with her before they would know if it's a sign of autism or not.

What speech delays to do you see?? My daughter is 2 months younger than June and June way surpasses my daughter with speech. My daughter has both a lip and tongue tie but still her pediatrician and pediatric dentist tell me she’s right on track for speech. Every child is different and June definitely seems to be hitting every milestone with her speech as far as I can tell. I think people are definitely reaching and looking for something to complain about when they throw around “speech delays” and “autism”. There’s many more things K&C are doing wrong but making sure June is hitting milestones is not one of them.


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So echolalia is the repetition of speech by a child learning to talk. This was discussed a few pages back. Normally a 2-year-old shouldn’t be using only imitated speech to talk. We only ever hear her echo what someone has just said. A little echolalia in response to complex questions would be normal at that age, especially when a child is tried or upset or trying to comfort themselves through the repetition. Like I said, it's an important first step towards normal language development. But she appears to be exclusively repeating words without really being able to “use” them on her own.

I think a lot of people miss it as a speech delay, because a child repeating all these words and using them "correctly" seemingly has a big vocabulary, so the receptive language delay isn't recognized.

But it's impossible to see the whole picture from YouTube clips alone. Perhaps she is communicating with more independent speech and we just don't see it? Hard to tell. If she is, she's probably just progressing at her own pace and will eventually outgrow it.

A re-watch of the recent Disney Land vlog provides a lot of examples of how she responds (or doesn't respond) to questions and how she engages in speech. It sounds like Kelsey and Corbin have recognized this and have adapted the way they talk to her to make it easy for her to respond by simply repeating the last word or phrase they said, but the employees at Disney were using more complex sentences.

Yes, it is common in children with autism spectrum disorder because they learn language differently, but it could also just be a run of the mill speech delay, which lots of children deal with. It's not a reflection on the parents per se, I just wonder if Kelsey and Corbin took her to a pediatrician for her two-year check-up and if they're doing anything to address it. It can be an early sign that something else is going on, as a parent I would be concerned enough to seek a professional opinion, just in case I can learn something that would better equip me to help my child in the future.

From what I've read there are ways to correct it sooner by asking less questions and speaking to them with more requests, labels, and comments so that they start to mirror this type of language. This is the kind of stuff they could be learning if they ever exhibited any research skills or interest in learning.

[TellAll]

While the speech delay (echolalia) and the walking issue would be cause for concern to me as a parent, I have zero experience with autism or diagnosing it. From what I know as a layperson, speech delays like echolalia are commonly associated with autism. I would never diagnose a child, let alone via YouTube. But I totally understand if you have personal experience with it and see similarities. I would definitely be talking to my pediatrician and getting a referral to a specialist, but as a parent I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions just yet. It could just be a speech delay. Echolalia is an important first step towards normal language development, it becomes problematic when the toddler doesn't progress beyond that and begin using her own words the majority of the time. From what I've read, a two-year-old should theoretically be at that point, so she could just be behind for any number of reasons. A professional would need to evaluate and work with her before they would know if it's a sign of autism or not.

What speech delays to do you see?? My daughter is 2 months younger than June and June way surpasses my daughter with speech. My daughter has both a lip and tongue tie but still her pediatrician and pediatric dentist tell me she’s right on track for speech. Every child is different and June definitely seems to be hitting every milestone with her speech as far as I can tell. I think people are definitely reaching and looking for something to complain about when they throw around “speech delays” and “autism”. There’s many more things K&C are doing wrong but making sure June is hitting milestones is not one of them.


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So echolalia is the repetition of speech by a child learning to talk. This was discussed a few pages back. Normally a 2-year-old shouldn’t be using only imitated speech to talk. We only ever hear her echo what someone has just said. A little echolalia in response to complex questions would be normal at that age, especially when a child is tried or upset or trying to comfort themselves through the repetition. Like I said, it's an important first step towards normal language development. But she appears to be exclusively repeating words without really being able to “use” them on her own.

I think a lot of people miss it as a speech delay, because a child repeating all these words and using them "correctly" seemingly has a big vocabulary, so the receptive language delay isn't recognized.

But it's impossible to see the whole picture from YouTube clips alone. Perhaps she is communicating with more independent speech and we just don't see it? Hard to tell. If she is, she's probably just progressing at her own pace and will eventually outgrow it.

A re-watch of the recent Disney Land vlog provides a lot of examples of how she responds (or doesn't respond) to questions and how she engages in speech. It sounds like Kelsey and Corbin have recognized this and have adapted the way they talk to her to make it easy for her to respond by simply repeating the last word or phrase they said, but the employees at Disney were using more complex sentences.

Yes, it is common in children with autism spectrum disorder because they learn language differently, but it could also just be a run of the mill speech delay, which lots of children deal with. It's not a reflection on the parents per se, I just wonder if Kelsey and Corbin took her to a pediatrician for her two-year check-up and if they're doing anything to address it. It can be an early sign that something else is going on, as a parent I would be concerned enough to seek a professional opinion, just in case I can learn something that would better equip me to help my child in the future.

From what I've read there are ways to correct it sooner by asking less questions and speaking to them with more requests, labels, and comments so that they start to mirror this type of language. This is the kind of stuff they could be learning if they ever exhibited any research skills or interest in learning.

We daughter just had her 2 year check up. Her father and I had to fill out a questionnaire on her developments in all categories like fine motors and speech. They ask if the child can repeat things you’re saying, put two or three words together, say their own name, respond to themselves as “I” or “me”, ect. I know all pediatricians are different but I’ve never met a pediatrician who expects a child to say sentences on their own. That’s just absurd considering what’s “normal” for children is so wide.


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[Steps_to_STFU]

I think the speech issues some are seeing could be due to the fact they do not seem to have actual conversations with her. They talk at her not with her. They will go "Does Junie like the beach?" And she replies "yay beach." And they laugh and congratulate her on being a genius. They do not expect or try for any better.

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[fossilfinger]

From what I've read there are ways to correct it sooner by asking less questions and speaking to them with more requests, labels, and comments so that they start to mirror this type of language. This is the kind of stuff they could be learning if they ever exhibited any research skills or interest in learning.

A lot of YouTube parents seem to ask their kids mostly "yes" or "no" questions rather than open-ended questions. Questions like "Is that good?" "Are you having fun?" "Are you so brave?" etc. This boxes the kids into an answer or just repeating their parents. They should ask more questions like "Where are we going?" or "How do you feel?" to elicit actual responses from their kids.

[Steps_to_STFU]

Their shirt sale is over. They sold 50 shirts. That is like $1200 dollars. Minus whatever the company takes for the tshirt making etc.

Wow Corby, rolling in the dough. That will buy you how many views buddy? Fake views don't buy shitty merch you douche.

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[HashtagBlessed]

What speech delays to do you see?? My daughter is 2 months younger than June and June way surpasses my daughter with speech. My daughter has both a lip and tongue tie but still her pediatrician and pediatric dentist tell me she’s right on track for speech. Every child is different and June definitely seems to be hitting every milestone with her speech as far as I can tell. I think people are definitely reaching and looking for something to complain about when they throw around “speech delays” and “autism”. There’s many more things K&C are doing wrong but making sure June is hitting milestones is not one of them.


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So echolalia is the repetition of speech by a child learning to talk. This was discussed a few pages back. Normally a 2-year-old shouldn’t be using only imitated speech to talk. We only ever hear her echo what someone has just said. A little echolalia in response to complex questions would be normal at that age, especially when a child is tried or upset or trying to comfort themselves through the repetition. Like I said, it's an important first step towards normal language development. But she appears to be exclusively repeating words without really being able to “use” them on her own.

I think a lot of people miss it as a speech delay, because a child repeating all these words and using them "correctly" seemingly has a big vocabulary, so the receptive language delay isn't recognized.

But it's impossible to see the whole picture from YouTube clips alone. Perhaps she is communicating with more independent speech and we just don't see it? Hard to tell. If she is, she's probably just progressing at her own pace and will eventually outgrow it.

A re-watch of the recent Disney Land vlog provides a lot of examples of how she responds (or doesn't respond) to questions and how she engages in speech. It sounds like Kelsey and Corbin have recognized this and have adapted the way they talk to her to make it easy for her to respond by simply repeating the last word or phrase they said, but the employees at Disney were using more complex sentences.

Yes, it is common in children with autism spectrum disorder because they learn language differently, but it could also just be a run of the mill speech delay, which lots of children deal with. It's not a reflection on the parents per se, I just wonder if Kelsey and Corbin took her to a pediatrician for her two-year check-up and if they're doing anything to address it. It can be an early sign that something else is going on, as a parent I would be concerned enough to seek a professional opinion, just in case I can learn something that would better equip me to help my child in the future.

From what I've read there are ways to correct it sooner by asking less questions and speaking to them with more requests, labels, and comments so that they start to mirror this type of language. This is the kind of stuff they could be learning if they ever exhibited any research skills or interest in learning.

We daughter just had her 2 year check up. Her father and I had to fill out a questionnaire on her developments in all categories like fine motors and speech. They ask if the child can repeat things you’re saying, put two or three words together, say their own name, respond to themselves as “I” or “me”, ect. I know all pediatricians are different but I’ve never met a pediatrician who expects a child to say sentences on their own. That’s just absurd considering what’s “normal” for children is so wide.


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Independent speech doesn't mean long sentences. Like your questionnaire stated, putting two or three words together as an independent thought is important. Just being able to answer "yes" or "no" rather than repeating the end of the question is a good sign that the child grasps how communication works. And yes, proper use of pronouns is a good sign and shows that they are comprehending the complexities of language and learning how to use it. No one said she should be stringing multiple sentences together at her age, but she should be able to vocalize independent responses that aren't echos of what she just heard.

[Bored Mommy]

I am also ticked how Corbin plays with her emotions to get his shot for the vlog e.g “Oh no what happened?” and she has this really terrified look on her little face! He did it with the pretend break in , he did it with the roofers, at Disneyland, the other day with her kitchen! He said once he doesn’t mind the fear of Santa on her! Is he getting a kick out of scaring her? He also grabbed and suddenly pushed her in a corner because she hit him and Kels commented how they should watch they don’t scare her!
I am pretty sure he is authoritative off cam!

[ewokfan11]

A smaller YTer I follow did a FULL breakdown of her YT revenue and it was really interesting. I know all YTers make different incomes, but by her "calculations" then C&K have only made about $120K from AdSense from the time they started YT. That's not very much over 5-6 years.

[HashtagBlessed]

A smaller YTer I follow did a FULL breakdown of her YT revenue and it was really interesting. I know all YTers make different incomes, but by her "calculations" then C&K have only made about $120K from AdSense from the time they started YT. That's not very much over 5-6 years.

That makes a lot of sense to me. I know this isn't the most accurate approach, but when you currently take half of the high estimate for their yearly income based on views, you get about $16,250 annually before taxes. Considering they used to get a lot more views when they were getting help from Bryan and Missy, an average of $24,000 over 5 years sounds about right to me. I think YouTubers make the majority of their income from sponsored videos and posts, but they have maybe one sponsored Instagram post or video a month? I think the t-shirts, the jewelry "business," Corbin's mention of a side-job, and the sudden decrease in vlogs all point to the fact that it's probably not profitable anymore. Maybe they're making decent money with jobs that they're doing off-camera and hot sharing on the vlogs, but if not I can't imagine why they decided to start trying for a second baby.

ETA: It's hard to believe that Kelsey has been pregnant before. Why does she think that the baby moving a lot now will be problematic when he's bigger? Babies move around a lot starting around 18-20 weeks because they still have a lot of room in there to flip around. As they get bigger, they calm down a lot, partially due to a lack of space. How does she not understand this?

[TorquoiseTastic]

A smaller YTer I follow did a FULL breakdown of her YT revenue and it was really interesting. I know all YTers make different incomes, but by her "calculations" then C&K have only made about $120K from AdSense from the time they started YT. That's not very much over 5-6 years.

That makes a lot of sense to me. I know this isn't the most accurate approach, but when you currently take half of the high estimate for their yearly income based on views, you get about $16,250 annually before taxes. Considering they used to get a lot more views when they were getting help from Bryan and Missy, an average of $24,000 over 5 years sounds about right to me. I think YouTubers make the majority of their income from sponsored videos and posts, but they have maybe one sponsored Instagram post or video a month? I think the t-shirts, the jewelry "business," Corbin's mention of a side-job, and the sudden decrease in vlogs all point to the fact that it's probably not profitable anymore. Maybe they're making decent money with jobs that they're doing off-camera and hot sharing on the vlogs, but if not I can't imagine why they decided to start trying for a second baby.

I think the main reason for baby number 2 was for the view increase they thought it would bring. That didn't work out, though

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[ewokfan11]

ETA: It's hard to believe that Kelsey has been pregnant before. Why does she think that the baby moving a lot now will be problematic when he's bigger? Babies move around a lot starting around 18-20 weeks because they still have a lot of room in there to flip around. As they get bigger, they calm down a lot, partially due to a lack of space. How does she not understand this?

LOL! I was totally wondering the same thing! It's like she's never been pregnant before!!

I have a feeling this baby is coming WAY early. Maybe even early-ish October?!

We don't even really know when she got pregnant, so she could just even have an early October due date! They lie about everything!

[jmoysa]

Of course Tabor will come “early” and probably weighing 8 lbs! They lie about everything and I just always thought she was farther along.

Noticed that douchebag Corbin isn’t posting on Twitter since he got called out on the name club and the comments. Temper tantrum for sure.

Kelsey really isn’t the brightest, so not going to watch a bump date filmed in their ratty garage.

I would hope that Corbin has gotten something else to bring in $$$, but unless it’s working for his dad, I can’t imagine him working for someone else.


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[ewokfan11]

The more I see the name Tabor here in the comments, the more I think it's an awful name. At first I didn't think it was too bad, but now I think it seems really odd...and not in a fun/clever way.

It's just too much like tuber...like potatoes!

I wonder if they've read here (yes) and are thinking of changing the name (i hope).

[Bored Mommy]

The more I see the name Tabor here in the comments, the more I think it's an awful name. At first I didn't think it was too bad, but now I think it seems really odd...and not in a fun/clever way.

It's just too much like tuber...like potatoes!

I wonder if they've read here (yes) and are thinking of changing the name (i hope).

I feel the same also sounds like tampon yuck! Corbin’s great discovery of an alpha male name is a major flunk!

[fossilfinger]

The more I see the name Tabor here in the comments, the more I think it's an awful name. At first I didn't think it was too bad, but now I think it seems really odd...and not in a fun/clever way.

It's just too much like tuber...like potatoes!

I wonder if they've read here (yes) and are thinking of changing the name (i hope).

Same here. I keep thinking of tapirs and tabby cats.

[PirateWench8]

The more I see the name Tabor here in the comments, the more I think it's an awful name. At first I didn't think it was too bad, but now I think it seems really odd...and not in a fun/clever way.

It's just too much like tuber...like potatoes!

I wonder if they've read here (yes) and are thinking of changing the name (i hope).

Oh they definitely read here and comment. That's why I refuse to engage and comment with certain individuals. Not worth my time or energy, lol.

[ewokfan11]

The more I see the name Tabor here in the comments, the more I think it's an awful name. At first I didn't think it was too bad, but now I think it seems really odd...and not in a fun/clever way.

It's just too much like tuber...like potatoes!

I wonder if they've read here (yes) and are thinking of changing the name (i hope).

Oh they definitely read here and comment. That's why I refuse to engage and comment with certain individuals. Not worth my time or energy, lol.

I am sure Corby posts here, but I'd never know who he is!!!!! (Although, I do have a few ideas....)

[PirateWench8]

The more I see the name Tabor here in the comments, the more I think it's an awful name. At first I didn't think it was too bad, but now I think it seems really odd...and not in a fun/clever way.

It's just too much like tuber...like potatoes!

I wonder if they've read here (yes) and are thinking of changing the name (i hope).

Oh they definitely read here and comment. That's why I refuse to engage and comment with certain individuals. Not worth my time or energy, lol.

I am sure Corby posts here, but I'd never know who he is!!!!! (Although, I do have a few ideas....)

I have a few ideas as well.


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