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HelloSweetie wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:15 am I do think it would be really hard to have body positivity with people picking your body apart every day. I understand the criticism of her hypocrisy, I do, but I also think this board has an intensity and a level of body shaming that is worse than any other I’ve seen. I feel like some of the comments are intentionally mean just to try and further any insecurities she may have.

Does she need to preach body positivity when she clearly doesn’t feel that way? No. Do we need to constantly body shame and then criticize her lack of body positivity though? I don’t think so. That too seems hypocritical imo.


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I was looking back at her last summer IG pictures, I recognize she was miserable since she told her viewers she was, but she still was a pretty mom in her thirties before her surgery. I believe if it were not for her family who don't have weight issues, Ellie and her mom, she would have been more comfortable with how she looked before surgery. I do think she is trying to limit sugar etc.
I would be curious to know if Joel has had any influence on her weight-image since he is short and does work out.
Not all of Bonnie’s body issues stem from her family, surely. She really does need to take some responsibility. When you look at her older vlogs, it shows a young healthy woman who is capable of losing weight on her own, none of the special fibrous fat she banged on about. YouTube made her money, made her lazy, and the inevitable happened. Trouble with Bonnie is she’s an extreme. Extreme nails, extreme lashes, extreme hair extensions, extreme emotions. She can do whatever she likes with her body, but she’s a damned hypocrite if after all the “help” she preaches body positivity.

As far as Joel is concerned, he seems to see (and good for him) her as a goddess, and I can’t ever imagine him criticizing her appearance.


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Ohnonotme wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:06 pm
Not all of Bonnie’s body issues stem from her family, surely. She really does need to take some responsibility. When you look at her older vlogs, it shows a young healthy woman who is capable of losing weight on her own, none of the special fibrous fat she banged on about. YouTube made her money, made her lazy, and the inevitable happened. Trouble with Bonnie is she’s an extreme. Extreme nails, extreme lashes, extreme hair extensions, extreme emotions. She can do whatever she likes with her body, but she’s a damned hypocrite if after all the “help” she preaches body positivity.

As far as Joel is concerned, he seems to see (and good for him) her as a goddess, and I can’t ever imagine him criticizing her appearance.


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I did finally watch the vlog on positive affirmation and her fans will appreciate this talk, but that's about it.
The problem with Bonnie's extremes, it is taking a toll on her body. Her hair is seeing damage with hair extensions and the liposuction will not work unless she changes her eating habits. She is capable of losing weight, has the resources, but it takes extremely hard work she didn't want to do last summer. I think she is trying now with diet, but not exercise. I agree it does mean taking responsibility and not blaming it on special fibrous fat. Bonnie also talked about feeling dumb and this would be helped if she furthered her education in a formal setting. The Bonnie extremes are not inexpensive and it makes her unrelatable to most moms. I don't think she sees this.
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Here's my take. Her only real interactions are with her family. She's obviously the only sibling who has a little bit of a weight problem. She clearly wants to be like them (or Ellie specifically) and she is doing whatever it takes to obtain that. She is too lazy to work out and now she has some money so she's taking the easy way out by having multiple surgeries. I hope she will now be happy with herself but I doubt it.
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HelloSweetie wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:15 am I do think it would be really hard to have body positivity with people picking your body apart every day. I understand the criticism of her hypocrisy, I do, but I also think this board has an intensity and a level of body shaming that is worse than any other I’ve seen. I feel like some of the comments are intentionally mean just to try and further any insecurities she may have.

Does she need to preach body positivity when she clearly doesn’t feel that way? No. Do we need to constantly body shame and then criticize her lack of body positivity though? I don’t think so. That too seems hypocritical imo.


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I tend to feel the same way. The catty comments about her weight ironically make me believe that the people posting them have a very low level of body positivity. Most of us are also moms, so I think it's a little bit pathetic for us to body-shame other moms. We've all got our insecurities and, at the end of the day, Bonnie doing things like dieting and getting plastic surgery is entirely her business. If we're going to criticize someone, it should be for something a little more substantial than that - like exploiting their kids and dismissing all criticism as 'hate'.
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I think she’d have better support if she was just honest about the why and up front about it. It’s the dishonesty about it that bothers me but I think she is just as dishonest to herself.


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gopedjane wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:42 am I think she’d have better support if she was just honest about the why and up front about it. It’s the dishonesty about it that bothers me but I think she is just as dishonest to herself.


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Totally agree. Have been saying this for quite a while. If she'd just be honest, I'm sure a lot of people understood. She could talk about how it feels to be the only bigger girl (she isn't even that big, her sisters are just very skinny) among those tiny sisters. She could talk about how she tried to be body positive and love her curves but how she just didn't feel good about herself. How she tried to lose weight but couldn't.... Tons of women would relate to her.
With the first surgery she didn't even tell her mother, so she basically couldn't tell her viewers. But when she finally did, it would have been better to just be honest about what had been done and not make up that story about her hernia and just having a little liposuction on her sides. Everybody could see that she had a lot more done.
Now with the second surgery she's hinting at it but at the same time making it a secret once again (deleting comments...). Everybody was expecting another surgery, so why not just be honest about it? She's losing all her credibility by acting the way she is.
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What bothers me the most is the "body positivity" vlogs she keeps showing us. The I love my body is just nonsense. Is she trying to say I love my body but I have to have all this surgery for medical reasons? Just admit you had all that lipo because you wanted to be thinner. Not that hard. Many people can relate to that.
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If Bonnie didn’t preach body positivity but then turn around and pay for a body she thinks she would like better it wouldn’t be as bad.
If Bonnie didn’t have a daughter whose self image she’s harming it wouldn’t be as bad. How’s Olivia, whose very much shaped like Bonnie, supposed to feel about herself when her mom clearly thinks there’s something wrong with their body shape?

Bonnie knows her reasons for surgery are pathetic, she didn’t even give working out and eating good a shot. She trained with a trainer for a few weeks, all while still stuffing her face regularly. If Bonnie felt good about her decision she would have been honest with her mom, and viewers. Did she really think she would be able to hide being sizes smaller and that booty and act like working out just made all the difference over night?

The sad thing is I don’t think Bonnie is any happier after surgery #1, and I don’t see surgery #2 making a difference. Bonnie is still mean, petty, and jealous.
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eulalie wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:38 am
I tend to feel the same way. The catty comments about her weight ironically make me believe that the people posting them have a very low level of body positivity. Most of us are also moms, so I think it's a little bit pathetic for us to body-shame other moms. We've all got our insecurities and, at the end of the day, Bonnie doing things like dieting and getting plastic surgery is entirely her business. If we're going to criticize someone, it should be for something a little more substantial than that - like exploiting their kids and dismissing all criticism as 'hate'.
I think the point is should she be a mom to preach body positivity when she isn't comfortable in her own body. I said yesterday, I felt Bonnie was a pretty thirty year old mom prior to surgery and I agreed with the message looking at her extremes including hair, nails etc. As far as her diet and surgery being her own business, I'm not surprised after Bonnie filmed her failure at diet/exercise, her surgery process, blaming her weight issues on fibrous fat and talking about her diet even on today's vlog, you would see comments on a gossip board. My opinion she would have benefitted last summer with a different trainer and seeing a nutritionist = seeing good results. I also feel instead of views falling after her surgery, she may have seen her views rise as she learned to change her lifestyle even if she told us how hard it was.
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Bonnie mentioned today she needs a willow tree on the new property so it will be interesting to see what their future will be with building a home.
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YTIG60 wrote:Bonnie mentioned today she needs a willow tree on the new property so it will be interesting to see what their future will be with building a home.
She "needs" a willow tree? Let me guess-- her mom had one. Or had one as a little girl and loved it, and told stories about having a willow tree in her yard growing up.
Wow, I'm cynical about this family.

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YTIG60 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:38 am Bonnie mentioned today she needs a willow tree on the new property so it will be interesting to see what their future will be with building a home.
So they still have the new property? As far as the willow tree, I just had one removed from my yard. It is extremely messy and the roots starting getting into my water lines. If she is reading this, I suggest you plant it far away from your house.
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YTIG60 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:38 am Bonnie mentioned today she needs a willow tree on the new property so it will be interesting to see what their future will be with building a home.
So they still have the new property? As far as the willow tree, I just had one removed from my yard. It is extremely messy and the roots starting getting into my water lines. If she is reading this, I suggest you plant it far away from your house.
Yep. Willows are notorious for that.

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YTIG60 wrote:Bonnie mentioned today she needs a willow tree on the new property so it will be interesting to see what their future will be with building a home.
She "needs" a willow tree? Let me guess-- her mom had one. Or had one as a little girl and loved it, and told stories about having a willow tree in her yard growing up.
Wow, I'm cynical about this family.

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You’re probably right though. These women have a difficult time thinking for themselves. If Jennifer had it then it’s what they need to have too.
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HelloSweetie wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:15 am I do think it would be really hard to have body positivity with people picking your body apart every day. I understand the criticism of her hypocrisy, I do, but I also think this board has an intensity and a level of body shaming that is worse than any other I’ve seen. I feel like some of the comments are intentionally mean just to try and further any insecurities she may have.

Does she need to preach body positivity when she clearly doesn’t feel that way? No. Do we need to constantly body shame and then criticize her lack of body positivity though? I don’t think so. That too seems hypocritical imo.


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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:52 am If Bonnie didn’t preach body positivity but then turn around and pay for a body she thinks she would like better it wouldn’t be as bad.
If Bonnie didn’t have a daughter whose self image she’s harming it wouldn’t be as bad. How’s Olivia, whose very much shaped like Bonnie, supposed to feel about herself when her mom clearly thinks there’s something wrong with their body shape?

Bonnie knows her reasons for surgery are pathetic, she didn’t even give working out and eating good a shot. She trained with a trainer for a few weeks, all while still stuffing her face regularly. If Bonnie felt good about her decision she would have been honest with her mom, and viewers. Did she really think she would be able to hide being sizes smaller and that booty and act like working out just made all the difference over night?

The sad thing is I don’t think Bonnie is any happier after surgery #1, and I don’t see surgery #2 making a difference. Bonnie is still mean, petty, and jealous.
I mean, I have a boob job. I don’t regret my decision for a single second, and love by boobs every single day I wake up with them. I literally hated my chest before. Does that mean I’m damaging my daughter? Does that mean she’ll grow up to hate her chest and think she’ll only be beautiful if she has surgery like me?
I don’t think so. I preach body autonomy, personal decisions, and a healthy, happy lifestyle, whatever that means for my children. I don’t see how it’s any different from Bonnie. She made a choice not to lose the weight in her own and get surgery. She’s not running around and telling Olivia to hop on a treadmill or get surgery because she needs to change. I don’t really see how my surgery and Bonnie’s surgery are different other than I couldn’t have worked harder to grow myself a chest and she could have worked harder at losing the weight, and I don’t see how her losing the weight naturally and then saying she’s happier thinner vs her having the surgery and saying she’s happier thinner is any different or more damaging to Olivia.
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queenc13 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:29 am
FakingIt_MakingIt wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:52 am If Bonnie didn’t preach body positivity but then turn around and pay for a body she thinks she would like better it wouldn’t be as bad.
If Bonnie didn’t have a daughter whose self image she’s harming it wouldn’t be as bad. How’s Olivia, whose very much shaped like Bonnie, supposed to feel about herself when her mom clearly thinks there’s something wrong with their body shape?

Bonnie knows her reasons for surgery are pathetic, she didn’t even give working out and eating good a shot. She trained with a trainer for a few weeks, all while still stuffing her face regularly. If Bonnie felt good about her decision she would have been honest with her mom, and viewers. Did she really think she would be able to hide being sizes smaller and that booty and act like working out just made all the difference over night?

The sad thing is I don’t think Bonnie is any happier after surgery #1, and I don’t see surgery #2 making a difference. Bonnie is still mean, petty, and jealous.
I mean, I have a boob job. I don’t regret my decision for a single second, and love by boobs every single day I wake up with them. I literally hated my chest before. Does that mean I’m damaging my daughter? Does that mean she’ll grow up to hate her chest and think she’ll only be beautiful if she has surgery like me?
I don’t think so. I preach body autonomy, personal decisions, and a healthy, happy lifestyle, whatever that means for my children. I don’t see how it’s any different from Bonnie. She made a choice not to lose the weight in her own and get surgery. She’s not running around and telling Olivia to hop on a treadmill or get surgery because she needs to change. I don’t really see how my surgery and Bonnie’s surgery are different other than I couldn’t have worked harder to grow myself a chest and she could have worked harder at losing the weight, and I don’t see how her losing the weight naturally and then saying she’s happier thinner vs her having the surgery and saying she’s happier thinner is any different or more damaging to Olivia.
Absolutely it could teach your daughter that if she has small breasts its not ok! But you know what else plays a factor? Your attitude. Bonnie's attitude and way she speaks is FAR from the self love she claims and should be wanting to teach Olivia.

I never said that if she had lost the weight naturally she would be happier. I don't think she would be. I think Bonnie could be as small as Ellie and she would still be a miserable person. However losing the weight naturally wouldn't have been as damaging to Olivia as the surgeries IMO. There is a BIG difference in surgeries to look better and working out/eating right to be healthier and maintain a healthy body and lifestyle. There's nothing wrong with teaching your children to work out, eat right and do all you can to live a healthy lifestyle, but I absolutely think there is something wrong with teaching your children that surgery is required to keep you small. Bonnie didn't have surgery because she wanted to be healthier, Bonnie had surgery because she wants to be small so Momma Griffiths can proudly exclaim how tiny she is (like she does to Ellie) and that is a horrible thing to be teaching Olivia.
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Sorry in advance for the triple post, I haven’t had the time to get on as much as I used to, so I’m trying to catch up.

I’ll just say that I, personally, don’t find that the whole “if it wasn’t for the body positivity stuff I’d be fine” comments are 100% truthful. When she was larger, people still wrecked her on this board with fat shaming comments— straight down to how fat her fingers are. She decided to hire a personal trainer and people dragged her for crying about how hard it was (which it is) and for what foods she was eating. Then she gets surgery and people can’t stand the fact that she got surgery, still say her stomach looks large, comment every time they think she’s gained back a pound, say they hate her new shape, or a combination of all of thee above. Had she stuck with the personal trainer and dieted, I’m sure many people would have had something to say about that too! How she’s taking time away from her kids to work out, how “normal” mom’s can’t hire a personal trainer, how she’s only losing weight to look like Ellie or her sisters. Had she stayed larger and preached body positivity, people would be in an uproar that she’s preaching an unhealthy lifestyle to her children, called her lazy for not working out like Joel, and commented on her shape.
She literally can not and could not have won when it comes to her body and weight, and I stand by that.
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i believe be proud of yourself, if you're not happy, watch what you eat, exercise and be active. Not everyone can be paper thin and it comes down to genetics and body type. No one should body shame another person. If that person is healthy, feels good about themselves, then who are we to criticize? I do feel that Bonnie is trying to be something she is not. She had a cute figure, She should have embraced it.

So are Bonnie and Ellie setting up the "We're Building Our Dream Homes" surprise video? Bonnie's current home property doesn't seem big enough for a Willow Tree and I believe there are 2 big trees out front already. Ellie doesn't seem to pleased with this "forever" home. Wood floors had to be sanded and revarnished, tile was installed wrong in the Laundry room and now the flooding. Ellie will play this up big time to get another home built next to Bonnie on the Griffiths Property. We had a weeping willow in our front yard growing up, its beautiful, but my dad had to finally have it taken out as it was cracking the walls of our basement. They need to be far away from any building, so I have a feeling new homes will begin soon.
So Bonnie was able to get the EMMA dog video down before YOUTUBE caught it. Now the viewers are vile for reporting it. Too bad. The ONLY reason she's pissed is because she took it down and will not make money on it. Both Bonnie and Ellie have such an arrogance toward their viewers, but point out something that can be a danger to the kids and we're the wrong ones and called names. I hope they both wind up losing their channels, losing Bollie and have to work real jobs.
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queenc13 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:40 am Sorry in advance for the triple post, I haven’t had the time to get on as much as I used to, so I’m trying to catch up.

I’ll just say that I, personally, don’t find that the whole “if it wasn’t for the body positivity stuff I’d be fine” comments are 100% truthful. When she was larger, people still wrecked her on this board with fat shaming comments— straight down to how fat her fingers are. She decided to hire a personal trainer and people dragged her for crying about how hard it was (which it is) and for what foods she was eating. Then she gets surgery and people can’t stand the fact that she got surgery, still say her stomach looks large, comment every time they think she’s gained back a pound, say they hate her new shape, or a combination of all of thee above. Had she stuck with the personal trainer and dieted, I’m sure many people would have had something to say about that too! How she’s taking time away from her kids to work out, how “normal” mom’s can’t hire a personal trainer, how she’s only losing weight to look like Ellie or her sisters. Had she stayed larger and preached body positivity, people would be in an uproar that she’s preaching an unhealthy lifestyle to her children, called her lazy for not working out like Joel, and commented on her shape.
She literally can not and could not have won when it comes to her body and weight, and I stand by that.
When I say that, its 100% truthful. I never hated on Bonnie for having a personal trainer, I wish she would have stuck with it or found one more compatible for her. I think it would have been a great example to set for her kids, that working out is a necessity to keep you healthy. I absolutely will drag her for crying about working out being hard while stuffing her face full of calorie laden, sugary items. That's ridiculous, if she was honestly giving working out a go and not just doing it as a requirement for surgery she would have changed her diet. And if she had no intentions of changing her diet then she shouldn't have been online crying about the difficulties and how the scale wasn't changing, because she knew darn well she was eating a ton of junk DAILY.
If Bonnie was honest and said "hey, I don't like working out and I want to be skinnier" I wouldn't have judged the surgery as much (I still have issues with how its effecting Olivia) but she didn't, she lied and tried to hide it and had plans to claim it was all natural weight loss and her working out was finally paying off all while preaching body positivity. I have a huge problem with that!

If she could just own her choices instead of trying to lie and hide and then hypocritically claim body love it would be a completely different story. Like I said, I would still take issue with what she's teaching Olivia (and her boys), but at least she would have some credibility as an influencer.
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