Epik Brandons - So Stinkin' Oily | Part 3 | The Epik Life

[Carissa]

PS/Edit: remember her buying all that camping stuff? They never used it, right? I don’t remember any stories or videos or posts about it. I mean yeah in the patio but really use it

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that camping gear never saw anywhere near the the patio or the living room. I swear they love blowing money for no reason. It was never a practical idea for the entire family. Neysa said she'd never been camping even once and she has two very little kids who probably would not do well. Jason could have taken some of the older kids, but Ebby is a Momma's boy and Shiloh seemed not interested in the idea. (and the smart boy seemed to know it would never happen.)

But now Hawaii is back on! Never mind living on the same street as her sister in Ohio. Maybe spending a week with her helped her rethink that.

[Bekkaz]

What I don't think Neysa realises is that she is almost parenting the same as her mum and the kids will be as messed up as Neysa feels re: her childhood. There are different reasons behind why they (Neysa and Neysa's mum) are parenting the way they are/did, but in the end it's the same lifestyle. No school, no socialisation, cooped up at home, no teachings off the outside world, no encourage to better yourself unless of course in the case of Neysa's kids, to have great character (can't build a life on character without some skills and quals behind you!).

I do wonder if N&J are getting worse due to the fact the world is getting more liberal and we all know they are anti anything they don't view as moral or from the bible. Even 5 years ago trans people didn't have the same support as they do now. Hanni was starting to think that LGBTQI+ wasn't so bad - hence she was quickly pulled from school.

[NotHateButUhh]

The way they were pulled from school suggests that you’re right. They didn’t finish up the term or anything. They just randomly pulled them out in the middle of the semester and then tried to tell us all it was the kids decision when Shiloh and Hanni clearly didn’t want to leave. Now they say that if any of the kids asks to go back to public school, they aren’t going to let them. It’s definitely about control and conservative religion, not about educational philosophy.

You know how when people are debating abortion (pro-life or pro-choice), the pro-life argument often comes up that “what if the child had grown up to be the next Einstein? What if the child cured cancer or AIDS or was a great musician?” Well, no doubt Neysa and Jason are pro-life and yet they have living, breathing children who you could ask the same question about. What if Shiloh is a musical prodigy? What if Kai could grow up to be a world class engineer? What if Hanni could be the next JK Rowling? What if Cozette has a passion for women’s health and cures ovarian cancer? You’ve given life to these children, but you aren’t allowing them to live. You aren’t providing them with the education they need to meet their potential. You aren’t teaching them to think. You’re teaching them to obey.

[natalka81]

Except that last year she promoted Classical Conversations like crazy. We all know it only lasted like a month that she spent more time shopping for pretty dresses and sewing them for cozette than she did educating any of her children. She is lying now trying to make it like they actually accomplished a year of school last year but they were no where near finished. This is downright abusive in my mind.

Both Parents are to blame and Neysa appears to have some mental health issues that she needs to deal with. The obsession with the youngest because she is a girl is unhealthy and they only meet these children’s basic needs and love to make it like they are the ideal family. They are not in their right minds. Education is so important. I can only hope these children break free or Neysa leaves her husband with the children.

There is a book I want to read named Educated by Tara Westover. It reminds me of these children.





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I've read Educated. I've been wanting to reference here for ages now but have been hesitant because I didn't want to seem too extreme, but I'm honestly starting to feel like there are connections between the two families' stories. There is a lot of serious abuse (physical, emotional, etc.) in Educated and I'm not in a position to imply that it's happening like that in Neysa's home, but there is something about the way the author, Tara Westover, was raised, and the way the Brandons are raised that is certainly similar in some ways. The essential oils theme is a huge one in Educated! It's a good, albeit troublesome read. I'd certainly recommend it.

[NotHateButUhh]

Thanks for your review. I want to read it even more now!

[Acaena]

On one day Neysa may come into the situation to be blamed by her kids and I think, that will hit her pretty hard. My mum was born and raised in a time where in Germany most girls were supposed to marry and have children and that was it. So from my grandparents view, she did not need more than the most basic school education and was afterwards forced to leave school.

It was pretty bad for their relationship as my mother wanted to learn/ to have a good education and had as a grown up a very, very though time to close the gaps in education. And the most basic school education in that time and place meant at least 8 years in a school - not something the Brandon kids get.

[MelE]

So Jason has a coworker do grocery shopping for their house?? Why can’t Neysa get off her butt and buy their own groceries? And they were unhappy with the number of snack bars the coworker bought for them? Wow.

Has the indoor swing been changed to have a baby seat and is now only usable by precious Cozi? Sorry Ebby and Shepherd, shoulda been a girl I guess.


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[Carissa]

So Jason has a coworker do grocery shopping for their house?? Why can’t Neysa get off her butt and buy their own groceries? And they were unhappy with the number of snack bars the coworker bought for them? Wow.

I think they said something about not having a Trader Joe's near them so it sounds like the co-worker was kind enough to pick lots of TJ junk food for them. I don't think those kids ever get a proper meal.

And yeah, the bitching about the number of granola bars tells you all you need to know about these two.

Oh, and Jason really, really wants to quit his job and be an "entrepreneur". Which can only mean he wants to sit on his ass while his wife works on her pyramid schemes.

[NotHateButUhh]

My interpretation was that the coworker bought them some random groceries as a gift, since they didn’t seem to know what they were getting. I could be wrong. Of course if it was a gift their ungratefulness is even worse.

[Carissa]

"I’m a huge advocate for children learning through exploration and touch." says Neysa today.

And she shows a picture of her kids holding seaweed. Ebby and Shepherd? Cozette even? Nope, it's her 8 and 10 year old sons. Neysa, Neysa, Neysa. These kids are almost middle school age. Letting them play with seaweed isn't teaching them a single thing. Please stop it with the BS. We know you aren't even trying to educate anymore.

[Gigi7]

"I’m a huge advocate for children learning through exploration and touch." says Neysa today.

And she shows a picture of her kids holding seaweed. Ebby and Shepherd? Cozette even? Nope, it's her 8 and 10 year old sons. Neysa, Neysa, Neysa. These kids are almost middle school age. Letting them play with seaweed isn't teaching them a single thing. Please stop it with the BS. We know you aren't even trying to educate anymore.

Also in today’s Instagram post she asks people to send the books they love because she will be needing them for school season.
School season has already started, but we know you unschool if you can give not doing a damn thing a name.
I wonder if Ezrah who should be in 3rd-4th grade can read a whole sentence yet.
It sure looks like Shepherd is well over 3 years old and still in diapers.
But hey they learn whenever they want to learn. If they want to also.

I don’t understand why have so many children homeschooled if you can’t do it.

Someone here recommended educated and I read it. Well I don’t think any of her kids will get a PhD. I thought maybe Hanni but I’m doubting it. They don’t know enough, they don’t even get to know there’s another world out there

[Bekkaz]

"I’m a huge advocate for children learning through exploration and touch." says Neysa today.

And she shows a picture of her kids holding seaweed. Ebby and Shepherd? Cozette even? Nope, it's her 8 and 10 year old sons. Neysa, Neysa, Neysa. These kids are almost middle school age. Letting them play with seaweed isn't teaching them a single thing. Please stop it with the BS. We know you aren't even trying to educate anymore.

Also in today’s Instagram post she asks people to send the books they love because she will be needing them for school season.
School season has already started, but we know you unschool if you can give not doing a damn thing a name.
I wonder if Ezrah who should be in 3rd-4th grade can read a whole sentence yet.
It sure looks like Shepherd is well over 3 years old and still in diapers.
But hey they learn whenever they want to learn. If they want to also.

I don’t understand why have so many children homeschooled if you can’t do it.

Someone here recommended educated and I read it. Well I don’t think any of her kids will get a PhD. I thought maybe Hanni but I’m doubting it. They don’t know enough, they don’t even get to know there’s another world out there

Hanni probably has the brains to complete a degree at Uni (maybe not PhD though) but is being programmed to only want marriage and babies.

[singlepostallady]

I can't even! This woman is such an idiot. First and foremost when she announced Cozette's name she said it wasn't because of the "movie" Less Miserable. Later she says she watched it. Yeah okay Neysa. You really need to keep up with your lies so you can keep you story straight. She doesn't know how to spell positive. Anyone noticed on Instagram she spelled it posative? She can't pronounce Chivalry correctly either. Yet she thinks she is capable of teaching her children?! These kids are a lost cause. It truly breaks my heart. She may not be physically abusing her children, but she is doing exactly what her mother did to her. Isolate, neglect their education, health, and safety.

[MelE]

I can't even! This woman is such an idiot. First and foremost when she announced Cozette's name she said it wasn't because of the "movie" Less Miserable. Later she says she watched it. Yeah okay Neysa. You really need to keep up with your lies so you can keep you story straight. She doesn't know how to spell positive. Anyone noticed on Instagram she spelled it posative? She can't pronounce Chivalry correctly either. Yet she thinks she is capable of teaching her children?! These kids are a lost cause. It truly breaks my heart. She may not be physically abusing her children, but she is doing exactly what her mother did to her. Isolate, neglect their education, health, and safety.

Your post reminded me of something I found amusing before. Remember when Neysa was trying to make a huge surprise out of Cozettes name for YouTube money? She posted a video giving a “hint” by showing the letter z. She then went on to say that this will be the first of her kids to have a z in their name.

...

HeZekiah
EZra
EbeneeZer

I died laughing. I don’t know if she just forgot about her older kids completely or genuinely doesn’t know how to spell their names but either one is pretty embarrassing.


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[Carissa]

Lol. I can almost understand missing Ebby and Kiah because they seem to use their nicknames exclusively but....EZRAH? She's so used to talking out of her ass all the time she screws up the most obvious things.

[MelE]

I guess Neysa has decided to embrace the "unschooling" term. At some point in the past someone mentioned that what they do is kind of like unschooling and Neysa disagreed saying that they do, in fact, have a structured lesson plan (HA!). But today she used the hashtag #unschooling in her instagram post. Neysa, if you're reading this, you're not unschooling. You're just not doing school (and haven't been for years) and there is a BIG difference.

In her vlog posted today she also says that they took the last 6 weeks off of school for summer. What did she call the entire school year before that? They certainly weren't doing any school work. She also showed that Cozette now has her own room (let the others cram into the tiny basement rooms, I guess. Shoulda stayed "soo stinkin' cute) and that Cozette's room also hosts their school desks, which makes zero sense to me. You'd think Neysa would want to take advantage of Cozette's naptime to get on with lessons for the older kids. Nope, not Neysa. She'll probably use that as some sort of excuse in the future too. "The boys were supposed to be working on math but I had to put Cozi down for her nap so they're just gonna go play outside."

[natalka81]

The noticeable lack of any kind of education- unschooling, homeschooling, formal schooling, etc. in this family is absolutely astounding to me. I'm holding out a tiny glimmer of hope that they're doing something behind the scenes that they're not telling us about... One can at least hope, right?

[Carissa]

The noticeable lack of any kind of education- unschooling, homeschooling, formal schooling, etc. in this family is absolutely astounding to me. I'm holding out a tiny glimmer of hope that they're doing something behind the scenes that they're not telling us about... One can at least hope, right?

I'd say there is zero hope. I'm willing to bet she read some stuff on the internet about unschooling and said, "I'll have some of that!" And her version of unschooling is absolutely no schooling.

Her Instagram posts make it clear that her focus is to let her kids have a good time all the time. Which, probably not coincidentally, works out very nicely for Neysa. She then gets to play with Shepherd and Cozette all day. She wants them to have childhood memories of nothing but playing around the house and the yard. Which is fine for the youngest kids - they should be learning through play. It is not fine for anyone older than Ebby though. And its 100% not fine for teenagers who are just a few years away from adulthood.

I'm sure if Hanni or Shiloh want a book on a topic, Neysa would have it "shipt" to them immediately and then proclaim, "See - our kids are setting their own agendas". But that agenda is likely far too limiting. And there is no way the other boys are reading anything, assuming they can read at all. And she'll continue this with the next set of kids as well.

I've said it before and because I know they read out here, I'll say it again. A parent's primary job, beyond food, shelter and a loving environment, is to prepare their kids for life. It is not to ensure that they get to play all day because one parent had a shitty childhood and wants to "re-live" her own childhood. That's totally selfish.

[natalka81]

She gets to play with Shepherd (or more likely only Cozette) all day and/or sell her oily potions to whomever she possibly can. Don't forget about the oils!

[louise619]

So yesterday in the family insta stories Neysa was having a grumble about the fact that most off/all of her cutlery has gone missing and she has no idea where it's all gone. Her solution? Plastic cutlery from costco.

As if I don't find this woman problematic enough from her methods of "homeschooling" to her enforcement of archaic gender roles, she's moved onto single use plastics and is buying them in bulk from Costco. So I may or may not have snapped and sent her a message which basically said "plastic cutlery is not your solution here" ..... wonder if I'll get a reply or blocked? Stay tuned lol.