GQS: AlwaysExploiting-Count Porkulus, Pigaletto & Squealing Piglets| Part 61

Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:15 am

JD386 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:04 am
Liz_444 wrote:
frenchiegirl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:55 am Anyway, their money comes from elsewhere, lipshit mostly . Alas, they will continue to be these despicable trash human beings...
Do you think they would be successful with Lipshit if their YT channel was shut down?? I doubt it, but what do I know. I think their "blanket business" and Lipshit will slowly fail when YT fails for them.
The thing though is people will still watch their shitty videos. That doesn’t stop the KADs from watching them. They just won’t get paid as much. Their YouTube won’t get shut down. They just likely won’t see incentive towards putting out videos.

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I agree completely

Also YouTube has way to much money to loose, IMO the majority of watchers are people under the age of 18. I know for my teens YouTube and Netflix have basically replaced TV in our house.
YouTube has to figure out a way to make this work or they will go bankrupt.

I think we will still see vlogging, but they will get payed directly by product placement, instead of random advertisers- they are going to have to sign long term contracts with specific companies and get paid that way.
For those that watched the Truman show- I foresee something very similar to that- random products placed all over the vlogs.

Also at this point Trashley has so many people under her that she doesn’t need the Needfollowers anymore. I mean she can do a Flash sill and sell over 10k worth of makeup in a day- it’s honestly mind blowing.

Unread post by **SqueakyWheel** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:55 am

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Hauling around Pull-ups??

Did not have sound up, have no clue what lies they are telling

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I think she called it their “church bag”. She didn’t say what was in it, but I would assume all the iPads. And whatever else they bring to church for the ferals.

Genuine question: Do kids have “kids church” while the grown ups are in service? Or do they have to sit with the parents the whole time? I thought a long while back Bison made a big deal over some sunshine room thing, but we haven’t heard a peep since.

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I’m behind (as usual, lol) so I apologize if your question has already been answered. The first hour of church everyone (kids, youth and adults) are all together. So a “church bag” would usually contain a snack and some quiet things for kids to do like a coloring book, iPad, board books, busy boards and for the younger kids obviously diapers, bottles, etc. Kids are not expected to be silent but parents do try to keep them quiet. The second hour toddlers (18 mos-3) go to nursery, young kids (3-11) go to Primary, older kids (12-18) go to youth classes and adults go to adult classes. What you are remembering as “sunshine room” is likely the sunbeam class. That is the class in primary 3 year olds attend.

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Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:57 am

frenchiegirl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:55 am Anyway, their money comes from elsewhere, lipshit mostly . Alas, they will continue to be these despicable trash human beings...

How do you know their money comes from Seneshit mostly?

Unread post by **HeyKatie** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:02 am

I’m bored so I’m watching old videos, the I’ll buy whatever you can CARRY challenge is ridiculous. Letting them wear all the clothes, shoes and stuff crap into bags defeats the purpose of the challenge, but hey I guess any excuse to blow money right?

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Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:32 am

DollarsToDonuts_9 wrote:
frenchiegirl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:55 am Anyway, their money comes from elsewhere, lipshit mostly . Alas, they will continue to be these despicable trash human beings...
How do you know their money comes from Seneshit mostly?

Per social blade, their max yearly earnings from YouTube are 160k. That’s max, I personally think it’s probably around 70k. They spend wellllllll above that (on soda alone, lol jk). I think their channel has gone down the toilet and they’re going to be too lazy to revamp it to the new rules. Probably will put those efforts into Tyson’s plexus scheme.

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Unread post by **JD386** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:08 am

DollarsToDonuts_9 wrote:
frenchiegirl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:55 am Anyway, their money comes from elsewhere, lipshit mostly . Alas, they will continue to be these despicable trash human beings...
How do you know their money comes from Seneshit mostly?

She makes assloads of money on Senegence. She has a huge team to live off of and sells ALOT. She ranks highest in most categories in the company. To give an idea, KE and blue hair and quite a few people support their families with pretty kush lifestyles on their income alone. And they rank below her on a lot of categories.

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Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:00 pm

JD386 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:08 am
DollarsToDonuts_9 wrote:
frenchiegirl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:55 am Anyway, their money comes from elsewhere, lipshit mostly . Alas, they will continue to be these despicable trash human beings...
How do you know their money comes from Seneshit mostly?
She makes assloads of money on Senegence. She has a huge team to live off of and sells ALOT. She ranks highest in most categories in the company. To give an idea, KE and blue hair and quite a few people support their families with pretty kush lifestyles on their income alone. And they rank below her on a lot of categories.

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Oh I’m aware people can make nice incomes in MLM’s. I know some that are at the very top in a wax one and a few that have made it high up with essential oils. I was wondering about Cashley specifically. I didn’t know if someone had seen proof of her income or knew information specific to her and her sales. Thanks.

Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:02 pm

photonailpolish wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:32 am
DollarsToDonuts_9 wrote:
frenchiegirl wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:55 am Anyway, their money comes from elsewhere, lipshit mostly . Alas, they will continue to be these despicable trash human beings...
How do you know their money comes from Seneshit mostly?
Per social blade, their max yearly earnings from YouTube are 160k. That’s max, I personally think it’s probably around 70k. They spend wellllllll above that (on soda alone, lol jk). I think their channel has gone down the toilet and they’re going to be too lazy to revamp it to the new rules. Probably will put those efforts into Tyson’s plexus scheme.

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Thanks for this. I have trouble interpreting when that kind of info is posted - I never understand what it means. This helps.

Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:14 pm

lmmomSD wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:38 am The thing is, that nobody (except us) seems to care about the kids being exploited. This is all only happening because YouTube got in trouble with the FTC for collecting information on children, and targeting ads towards them. It's all about protecting the kids watching. Which is important, don't get me wrong. But if the AI thinks that the Greedners and their ilk are producing content NOT aimed at kids, they will be ok. And that irritates me no end. It still doesn't help the kids whose parents are living off them.
The good news is that they can't "argue" that their content is aimed at adults. YouTube is developing AI to detect kids content, and even if it's not _aimed_ at kids, if the audience is primarily kids, they'll take the hit too. At least that's my understanding. And if they lie, which I can totally see the Greedners doing, they will get hit with a big fine. The involvement of the FTC means that they'll be watching. The last time it was just the advertisers who were "concerned about the children being exploited" and YouTube changed its rules saying that they couldn't show kids in vulnerable or embarrassing situations, or in distress. But they aren't enforcing those rules. Because the advertisers don't really care. But the FTC will make sure that they enforce these rules.
Sorry for the novella. This whole thing really chaps my hide.

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My understanding is that people do care about the kids onscreen being exploited, even some YTers with kids onscreen themselves (see videos by Eh Bee Family). The problem is that they don't have an effective way to implement the laws that apply to "child actors". There is no current infrastructure to police every parent filming a kid in their home every day. These changes, although presented as solely be a reaction to the lawsuit, will likely weed out many channels that exploit children onscreen for the fast/easy money. Once the incentive for exploitation is removed, they will likely move on. We all know they don't vlog for fun and it isn't "for the memories".

Unread post by **JD386** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:27 pm

DollarsToDonuts_9 wrote:
JD386 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:08 am
DollarsToDonuts_9 wrote: How do you know their money comes from Seneshit mostly?
She makes assloads of money on Senegence. She has a huge team to live off of and sells ALOT. She ranks highest in most categories in the company. To give an idea, KE and blue hair and quite a few people support their families with pretty kush lifestyles on their income alone. And they rank below her on a lot of categories.

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Oh I’m aware people can make nice incomes in MLM’s. I know some that are at the very top in a wax one and a few that have made it high up with essential oils. I was wondering about Cashley specifically. I didn’t know if someone had seen proof of her income or knew information specific to her and her sales. Thanks.

To give a ballpark of how much she likely makes (since they can’t disclose how much they actually make). Someone local to me sells Senegence and before the market seemed to nose dive a bit she was making 5 digit (she couldn’t give an actual amount but said it was 5 digits) commission checks off of her downline. Per month. With a way smaller team than Ashley. That’s just commissions.

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Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:33 pm

JD386 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:27 pm
DollarsToDonuts_9 wrote:
JD386 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:08 am
She makes assloads of money on Senegence. She has a huge team to live off of and sells ALOT. She ranks highest in most categories in the company. To give an idea, KE and blue hair and quite a few people support their families with pretty kush lifestyles on their income alone. And they rank below her on a lot of categories.

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Oh I’m aware people can make nice incomes in MLM’s. I know some that are at the very top in a wax one and a few that have made it high up with essential oils. I was wondering about Cashley specifically. I didn’t know if someone had seen proof of her income or knew information specific to her and her sales. Thanks.
To give a ballpark of how much she likely makes (since they can’t disclose how much they actually make). Someone local to me sells Senegence and before the market seemed to nose dive a bit she was making 5 digit (she couldn’t give an actual amount but said it was 5 digits) commission checks off of her downline. Per month. With a way smaller team than Ashley. That’s just commissions.

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I have a friend in a similar situation/ she is constantly hustling her business and works hard, she has a small productive team and sells a fraction of what Trashley does and makes about 100k a year. She has said that the top level people are probably making 300-500k a year.
She does decent, but doesn’t qualify for a car or trips.

Unread post by **lmmomSD** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:06 pm

Kattiness Everdeen wrote:
lmmomSD wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:38 am The thing is, that nobody (except us) seems to care about the kids being exploited. This is all only happening because YouTube got in trouble with the FTC for collecting information on children, and targeting ads towards them. It's all about protecting the kids watching. Which is important, don't get me wrong. But if the AI thinks that the Greedners and their ilk are producing content NOT aimed at kids, they will be ok. And that irritates me no end. It still doesn't help the kids whose parents are living off them.
The good news is that they can't "argue" that their content is aimed at adults. YouTube is developing AI to detect kids content, and even if it's not _aimed_ at kids, if the audience is primarily kids, they'll take the hit too. At least that's my understanding. And if they lie, which I can totally see the Greedners doing, they will get hit with a big fine. The involvement of the FTC means that they'll be watching. The last time it was just the advertisers who were "concerned about the children being exploited" and YouTube changed its rules saying that they couldn't show kids in vulnerable or embarrassing situations, or in distress. But they aren't enforcing those rules. Because the advertisers don't really care. But the FTC will make sure that they enforce these rules.
Sorry for the novella. This whole thing really chaps my hide.

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My understanding is that people do care about the kids onscreen being exploited, even some YTers with kids onscreen themselves (see videos by Eh Bee Family). The problem is that they don't have an effective way to implement the laws that apply to "child actors". There is no current infrastructure to police every parent filming a kid in their home every day. These changes, although presented as solely be a reaction to the lawsuit, will likely weed out many channels that exploit children onscreen for the fast/easy money. Once the incentive for exploitation is removed, they will likely move on. We all know they don't vlog for fun and it isn't "for the memories".

Yes-- agreed that the Eh-Bee family does care. Love Mama Bee!!!
It's just frustrating, because the previous "apocalypse" when Funnel Vision, Bonnie Holleins, April and Davey, and others got demonetized was supposed to change things. And the rules got changed, but YT doesn't enforce them. And the ONLY reason the rules changed to begin with is that advertisers threatened to pull dollars. So when YT is hit with a fine, they can develop AI to detect children's content. But they can't develop AI to detect when children are exploited? I would think a title like "Toddler's Broken Arm" should be a huge hint. They can at least enforce their own rules.

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Unread post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:31 pm

Bison to Heavy in IG lie feed:
"You're my right hand girl right?"
"Yeah".
"Because I'm your favorite. Right"
"Yeah."
"Guess what? Youre my favorite too..But don't tell the other girls"

Everyday he says this shit to them.

Wait until he figures out that they've heard it all along. And that he is the reason they want to claw each others eyes out.

I bet his siblings were told they were the favorites all time and that's why he's such a dick to them. I seriously doubt Tyler was told he was a favorite, ever. He's got such an inferiority complex and is such an unlikable personality.

Unread post by **Howlin17** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:36 pm

Not to be snarky......but, I don’t believe for one second that Seneshit sellers are raking in the mega bucks. Clever marketing.....but, just no

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Unread post by **Haulnarse** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:03 pm

Howlin17 wrote:Not to be snarky......but, I don’t believe for one second that Seneshit sellers are raking in the mega bucks. Clever marketing.....but, just no

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They could be.... but then they have to pay taxes, shipping, packaging, website fees, (wages for other staff if they are lazy arses).

The quantities of product that assley has on hand just incase is insane. Even real life retail shops dont stock hundreds of something incase it ends up being a sell out.

They buy all the limited editions like its going out of fashion, so that seneshit bigwigs can claim it “sold out” (in X time), yet their minions have hundreds sitting in their stock piles. Who needs 50x rainbow sets??

Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:33 pm

Howlin17 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:36 pm Not to be snarky......but, I don’t believe for one second that Seneshit sellers are raking in the mega bucks. Clever marketing.....but, just no

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Yea... I want to see numbers before I could say they are totally banking. The people I know that are higher up in MLM’s have nice houses but still work the MLM & so do their spouses, in a typical job. AND they don’t have ‘staff’

. I’m sure she makes money. I have no doubt. But I feel like there is either something else funding them we don’t know about or underestimate or they live on credit cards. I could be wrong. I wouldn’t put it past me!

Unread post by **GA Peach70** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:44 pm

Asswipe did a tutorial today and both her and Lindsey Bingham were chomping and smacking on their gum. Real professional. Also check out Asswipe’s horrible makeup, ugly ass stringy hair, and that hat. She admits that she is wearing the hat because her hair is dirty. You can see a bit on the sides how greasy it is.

That’s just so nasty. She’s the last person I’d be taking makeup advice from. I’d rather go to my 15 year old niece for advice than this supposed “makeup artist.” At least my niece doesn’t look like a whore clown with mud smeared all over her cheeks. She knows that less is more.

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Unread post by **lmmomSD** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:18 pm

Plus, you can totally see where she photoshops her chin to make it look smaller. It's all blurry on the right side.
And yes, people vlogging themselves chewing gum like cows with cud is a HUGE pet peeve of mine...

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Unread post by **lmmomSD** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:20 pm

You can really see it here:
See how pixilated her ear and chin are? But she's not using a filter! It's just that beautiful Utah sunlight. [IMG]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201909 ... 324aea.jpg[/IMG]

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Unread post by **Night lady** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:24 pm

daktari15 wrote:I think the Gardner’s will be ok with the new you tube rules. Their content is not aimed at children, yes some children do watch. They may have to drop the challenges and maybe reviewing of toys but I think they can argue that their vlogs are for an adult audience.

Some people’s interpretation of the rules is a bit skewed. But then no one knows how you tube will apply the rules. It’s going to be interesting that’s for sure.

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And you are?
Introduce yourself please.

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