E & J - So many problems, so few vitamins |Part #125

Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:09 am

opangatay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:22 am How can Ellie listen to Jared in his Instagram story right now and not want to flee the country. I’m very sensitive to loud or unexpected noises and if my husband yelled “playfully” like that at me I’d probably start crying from the overstimulation lmao.

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I'm with you, living with his loud mouth would drive me nuts. Poor Calvin has asked him to stop, be quiet multiple times. He's sensitive to noise, the kid must be a nervous wreck having a dad like that around 24/7.

Unread post by **ba1006** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:50 am

Todays drama wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:09 am
opangatay wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:22 am How can Ellie listen to Jared in his Instagram story right now and not want to flee the country. I’m very sensitive to loud or unexpected noises and if my husband yelled “playfully” like that at me I’d probably start crying from the overstimulation lmao.

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I'm with you, living with his loud mouth would drive me nuts. Poor Calvin has asked him to stop, be quiet multiple times. He's sensitive to noise, the kid must be a nervous wreck having a dad like that around 24/7.

I often wonder if he's a different person when the camera's off. He can't be that happy and loud all the time, can he?

Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:32 pm

When you see Jared in other people’s vlogs, he’s far more quiet and sullen. So is Ellie.

Their loud and obnoxious screeching is all put on to fake how happy they are.

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Unread post by **HelloSweetie** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:31 pm

Jared remote control driving his Tesla through a parking lot isn’t nearly as cool as he thinks it is. He looks like such a douche. Imo he’s so much worse than even Bryan is.

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Unread post by **Bundy** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:36 am

Why is she still giving him the wubbanub? It’s 0-6 months or until teeth and he has teeth now right?

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Unread post by **angelfire89** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:50 am

Bundy wrote:Why is she still giving him the wubbanub? It’s 0-6 months or until teeth and he has teeth now right?

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Didn’t Calvin have his until he was like a year and a half, even close to two? Probably a good indicator of why his teeth and jaw are so misaligned. I actually do think he’s a cutie but unless his adult teeth come in completely different, he’ll likely need extensive dental work.

Unread post by **PirateWench8** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:06 am

Bundy wrote:Why is she still giving him the wubbanub? It’s 0-6 months or until teeth and he has teeth now right?

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Yes he has a few teeth now I believe. Knowing those two they probably have never read the directions before they started using them.

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Unread post by **lmmomSD** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:05 am

Yes, Calvin was walking around with the wubbanub hanging out of his mouth long past when he should have had it.
It not only messed up his teeth, it could be one reason his speech was so messed up. It's hard to talk with not only a pacifier in your mouth, but a stuffed animal hanging from it too.

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Unread post by **Mickey123** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:51 am

I've been a dental hygienist for 24 years. Those stupid pacifiers are horrible for children. They pull down ( due to the weight of the animal ) on the mouth causing more issues with the development of teeth and jaw. Most intelligent parents get rid of them before the child can attach themselves to the soother. I've found that the issue isn't with the child themselves holding onto the pacifier, but the parent that doesn't want to put up with a crying child for a few weeks to get rid of the addiction.
Thumbsuckers are the same, we have ways of dealing with it, but most parents don't follow through with our advice. Then you end up with an adult that still sucks their thumb ( you wouldn't believe the number of people who suck their thumbs into adulthood ) Though I'm sure she doesn't really care if her kids do that, she has some weird smelling fetish with her kids mouths ( I suggest she see a therapist for )

Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:30 pm

Who listened to their podcast Jared mentioned a heart thing that runs in their family he had symptoms of it and the doctor told him to be active and eat healthy

Unread post by **sheltiefan** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:42 pm

geezlouise_99 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:30 pm Who listened to their podcast Jared mentioned a heart thing that runs in their family he had symptoms of it and the doctor told him to be active and eat healthy

He should have done some research on some stuff before making the podcast. Angina is not what they call the "widow maker". Widow maker is when the main artery is blocked and you have a fatal heart attack. Jared talking about the lasik surgery and acting like he forgot Kevin. Kevin is how Jared got the sponsorship for the surgery!

Oh Ellie has seen another hormone specialist. The testosterone is for anxiety too-I thought the other meds was for that.

Unread post by **ICantEven** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:28 pm

sheltiefan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:42 pm
geezlouise_99 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:30 pm Who listened to their podcast Jared mentioned a heart thing that runs in their family he had symptoms of it and the doctor told him to be active and eat healthy
He should have done some research on some stuff before making the podcast. Angina is not what they call the "widow maker". Widow maker is when the main artery is blocked and you have a fatal heart attack. Jared talking about the lasik surgery and acting like he forgot Kevin. Kevin is how Jared got the sponsorship for the surgery!

Oh Ellie has seen another hormone specialist. The testosterone is for anxiety too-I thought the other meds was for that.

It baffles me that someone with a pronounced family history of early death from heart related causes doesn't bother to learn the difference between high cholesterol, angina, and heart attack. How does Jared not even know what his dad actually had? Obviously he was young when it happened, but now Jared should be getting all the info he can. It makes a difference if his dad had angina vs the widowmaker heart attack. This is important for his doctors to know even more than Jared saying it feels like peanut butter is being squeezed though his aorta or whatever.

Unread post by **sheltiefan** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:00 pm

ICantEven wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:28 pm
sheltiefan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:42 pm
geezlouise_99 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:30 pm Who listened to their podcast Jared mentioned a heart thing that runs in their family he had symptoms of it and the doctor told him to be active and eat healthy
He should have done some research on some stuff before making the podcast. Angina is not what they call the "widow maker". Widow maker is when the main artery is blocked and you have a fatal heart attack. Jared talking about the lasik surgery and acting like he forgot Kevin. Kevin is how Jared got the sponsorship for the surgery!

Oh Ellie has seen another hormone specialist. The testosterone is for anxiety too-I thought the other meds was for that.
It baffles me that someone with a pronounced family history of early death from heart related causes doesn't bother to learn the difference between high cholesterol, angina, and heart attack. How does Jared not even know what his dad actually had? Obviously he was young when it happened, but now Jared should be getting all the info he can. It makes a difference if his dad had angina vs the widowmaker heart attack. This is important for his doctors to know even more than Jared saying it feels like peanut butter is being squeezed though his aorta or whatever.

I am sure it was angina that his dad had since he is still alive. They call it that because it is fatal I believe in all cases. Like when you hear people just fall out instantly dead, it's the widow maker. With his family history and if he keeps having symptoms, they may need to do a stress test. An important fact that Ellie brought up was they upped their life insurance policy!

Boy they have all the youtubers promoting Bollie Brand stuff now in vlogs and IG stories!

Unread post by **ICantEven** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:56 pm

sheltiefan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:00 pm I am sure it was angina that his dad had since he is still alive. They call it that because it is fatal I believe in all cases. Like when you hear people just fall out instantly dead, it's the widow maker. With his family history and if he keeps having symptoms, they may need to do a stress test.

This is kind of beside the point, but my dad survived the widowmaker. Widowmaker refers to the location of the blockage, and at 100% blockage is nearly always fatal. My dad got to the hospital with 99% blockage and they were able to get a stent in and save his life. He was having symptoms for 2 weeks prior though, but is a stubborn guy and had an ignorant cardiologist.

So it's possible that Jared's Dad had angina due to a blockage in one of the arteries that causes the widowmaker attack, but it hadn't progressed to the point of complete blockage before he got help.

The point is that whatever it is that his dad had, Jared should know this. There's no excuse for him not knowing the basics, especially when it seems so relevant to his life and health. They mentioned a 25-year old cousin that already had 2 stents placed... It sounds like some serious genetic predisposition to high cholesterol and blockage. I sure would be scared enough to educate myself, but then again this is Jared, and I'm sure Ellie's hormone stuff comes first.

Unread post by **lmmomSD** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:13 pm

Angina is the chest pain caused by the blockage. It's like a warning sign.
These people piss me off no end. They yammer on without knowing what they are talking about or caring how they might be affecting people who think they actually know something and listen to them.
Calling it the "widowmaker" is actually inappropriate. Yes, blockage of the left anterior descending coronary artery is a HUGE deal. It supplies blood/oxygen to your left ventricle, which pumps your blood to your body. And a 100% blockage can definitely be fatal. But if you get help quickly, there are all kinds of treatments these days that can save you. That's why it's important for people to know their family history and be aware of their diet and if they have hereditary hypercholesterolemia to keep an eye on it.
Sorry for the medical lecture. Jared and Ellie both are SO irresponsible. It really makes me angry.

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Unread post by **sheltiefan** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:26 pm

lmmomSD wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:13 pm Angina is the chest pain caused by the blockage. It's like a warning sign.
These people piss me off no end. They yammer on without knowing what they are talking about or caring how they might be affecting people who think they actually know something and listen to them.
Calling it the "widowmaker" is actually inappropriate. Yes, blockage of the left anterior descending coronary artery is a HUGE deal. It supplies blood/oxygen to your left ventricle, which pumps your blood to your body. And a 100% blockage can definitely be fatal. But if you get help quickly, there are all kinds of treatments these days that can save you. That's why it's important for people to know their family history and be aware of their diet and if they have hereditary hypercholesterolemia to keep an eye on it.
Sorry for the medical lecture. Jared and Ellie both are SO irresponsible. It really makes me angry.

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That's my problem with this podcast too-don't talk about stuff you don't know anything about! Just like Ellie did when she went to the first "hormone" specialist and had people saying they were going to leave their doctors to do like what Ellie did!

Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:20 pm

This picture and also in the podcast didn't she say something about how it makes her sexual feelings now or something along the lines

Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:33 pm

Who's looking after the kids looks like from Julie's story they are a light of this world event for Kevin's bday and with other creators it was on Julie's insta Ellie jare bonnie joel and Ruby and Kevin were there

Unread post by **Free** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:50 pm

um. I just wanted to say that I think its Ellies dad....he pops up in the background he kinds creeps me out. Jared and his family seem really freakin nice. The last thing that family should be doing is hanging out and joining up cult families with Bryan and Melissa from DB. Not a good mix for meet ups. Totally different people. I see Bryan and missy as snakes. Its probably because of the company they are partnered/contracted with...usually they funnel money around illegally like that through similar things.... and also Bryan needs music.

Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:59 pm

Free wrote:um. I just wanted to say that I think its Ellies dad....he pops up in the background he kinds creeps me out. Jared and his family seem really freakin nice. The last thing that family should be doing is hanging out and joining up cult families with Bryan and Melissa from DB. Not a good mix for meet ups. Totally different people. I see Bryan and missy as snakes.

When you watch long enough you start to see how fake Jared really is. I’m no Bryan fan, but he is far less slimy and shameless than Jared is. Plus he screams douchebag, whereas Jared is a baby butt rubbing snake in the grass.

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