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Emily81 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:57 am
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Emily81 wrote:I'm from Switzerland and I'm 38 years old.
I previously lived in Germany, Italy and Portugal.

I'm sorry to hear about your health, sending you positive energy. Stay strong!


Fortunately we don't have huge amusement parks here and they have already been twice near the border without entering the country, wish us luck!

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Emily81 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:00 am
The problem is not being vegan, the problem is having stupid parents.

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So true...but I wouldn't call them stupid. That's child neglect and if you watch your toddler getting thinner and thinner, you KNOW that something is off and I would love my baby more than my moral believes, to be honest. And I do believe, that thankfully Taina is far from that (yet) and that you can raise perfectly healthy vegan children, when you do it carefully and thoughtfully. At the moment, Taina doesn't...but hence they seem to eat and live differently, I doubt that they are even that vegan in real life. I also wonder what it is that they eat pickled food all the time. If they don't want to use the RV, they could get bunsen burners for cooking whilst on the run.
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Hariett wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:42 am Good idea Ashley :)
I am 26, have russian origins and grew up near Frankfurt, Germany. But currently I am doing the master's program in psychology in Salzburg, Austria, so you can imagine me cringing while watching her videos about it... Don't let me even start. I think Lalelou123 can relate :D

I've never ever watched family vlogs before (didn't knew this was a thing), but like with most of you, it was about November last year, she appeared in the my recommendations with her mom of 10 morning routine. Just clicked because of interest and since then analysing them 😋
Just joking about that, since this is impossible from the far and I agree that we should be careful with diagnosis.. Also we obviously don't see their "real life" off camera..
But what Taina wants us to see and how she wants to be seen says aaaaa lot about her ;)

Also homeschooling is completely forbidden in Germany (every single kid has to visit a school until they finished at least 9 grades or are 18 years old) and I've never met a person in my life who was homeschooled, so I have a special fascination for their lifestyle and how this is even possible in Europe :D
You can do it in Austria, but you need to attend tests at the end of the school year to make sure that everybody is on a acceptable level. If the child fails, he needs to attend school next year.

I think homeschooling and unschooling are great ways of raising children, but only if they live in an inquisitive household. He for example is rather great. They are also the Sterns (Arno Stern, Andre Stern,...) and Gerald Hüther is the message behind it.

That said, it can go wrong too.

Aaaand they are definitely not vegan for empathic reasons. The whole family attended a dolphin show and have been in an aquarium together. They don't seem to have much space too. (the animals, not only the Toivolas)

Taina made sure to show KJ push Aph and that they hugged afterwards. They bought another heap of things they don't need (plastic shark and plastic beluga)

They had junk for dinner (no, not spaghetti!): pizza.

And Taina showed spare shirts. How exiting.
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Emily81 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:57 am
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:P Well, somebody is skimming. I somehow mixed different posts together or maybe didn't comprehend or something. Excuse me please, I get it now. :D I was so glad to see Dubrovnik before it was hyped.

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The problem is not being vegan, the problem is having stupid parents.

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So true...but I wouldn't call them stupid. That's child neglect and if you watch your toddler getting thinner and thinner, you KNOW that something is off and I would love my baby more than my moral believes, to be honest. And I do believe, that thankfully Taina is far from that (yet) and that you can raise perfectly healthy vegan children, when you do it carefully and thoughtfully. At the moment, Taina doesn't...but hence they seem to eat and live differently, I doubt that they are even that vegan in real life. I also wonder what it is that they eat pickled food all the time. If they don't want to use the RV, they could get bunsen burners for cooking whilst on the run.
I agree

What made me call them stupid was this:

"On the day the boy died, Sheila said she nursed her son for about a minute before he started exhibiting shallow breathing. She said she should have called someone – but instead fell asleep with her husband."


That's why I think it's not a moral issue but stupidity and, as you said, neglect.


About Taina, I think they don't have the space for cooking utensils and storage for food inside the RV with 12 people living in a very limited space.
I bet these children will suffer from claustrophobia one day.
My guess is she thought she could find restaurants that offered them food in exchange for advertising. I noticed that, at the beginning of this absurd journey, she always mentioned having a YouTube channel when they ate in restaurants or food trucks

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Lalelou123 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:01 pm
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Emily81 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:15 pm
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Emily81 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:00 am The problem is not being vegan, the problem is having stupid parents.



What made me call them stupid was this:

"On the day the boy died, Sheila said she nursed her son for about a minute before he started exhibiting shallow breathing. She said she should have called someone – but instead fell asleep with her husband."


That's why I think it's not a moral issue but stupidity and, as you said, neglect


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What a tragic story
Its incredible parents could fall asleep,even tho the mother said she knew she shd have called for help when she noticed the shallow breathing
Poor baby and poor siblings 🙁🙁
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Emily81 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:15 pm
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I bet these children will suffer from claustrophobia one day.
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I was thinking this yesterday looking at the supermarket trawl,lots of big packs of food,huge bag of nanas etc..where the heck can they store all that..my guess is lots of it went straight back on the shelves after the staging x
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AnaLola wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:25 am I'm from Croatia, 36 years old, stay at home mum of 6, 7th on the way. I was intrigued by the big family. Now I rarely watch, but I am frequently reading on this forum and I think you're keeping me up to date prety well.

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xrubyx99 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:40 am Once again, King James is being left out. She let Aphrodite and Omega each pick out a toy shark at the gift shop. Apparently the boys are to share theirs and the girls are to share theirs. Omega is playing with the shark and king James is watching and says “I want a shark” multiple times until Taina says “you’ll get a go at the shark soon. Don’t want to end up with too much stuff!” If you’re not gonna buy some thing for all the littles Taina, don’t buy anything at all. I have a niece and a nephew, they’re twins, I would never buy them a toy to “share”. They all need to feel special.


I disagree slightly, ruby...i wd deffo buy two similar age siblings sthing they could share between them.
They need to learn early that sometimes you have to take turns,and they are old enough to do so.
I think the situation recently was very unfair,when the prinnies both got mickey ears and dresses,and we were anxious to see if KJ got the ( was it Buzz Lightyear ) suit...
if T didnt buy it in the end,after the girls had had so much,that was totally unfair..we havent seen any evidence of him wearing said suit even tho she promised she wd buy it for him.Heartbreaking.

I havent watchd the latest yet, but probably Omega will keep hold of that shark longer than is fair and poor Kj will wait a long time for a turn,or may have to wait til Om gets bored 🙁🙁🙁
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Introducing ourselves was such a good idea, I attempted to do it earlier but I got caught up with work. Anyway better late than never !!
I am Phoebe, (Hence the nickname Honey Bee, which is what my dad calls me) I am 28, and I am from south west London. Luckily an hour away from Windsor so far enough away from LegoLand to not see the family !! LOL.
I have a 4 year old daughter Niamh, and I am a solicitor who specialises in practicing family law, at a small local firm, which I have done since I graduated at 22.
I hope to get married soon (if my boyfriend ever proposes haha) and hopefully extend my family in the future :)
Like the majority of you, I began watching the Licciardo-Toivola's in November last year when they were in my suggestion box. I had been watching the Chatwins at the time and assumed this was why. But Taina began uploading more I became increasingly concerned with the family, and began reading here. :)

On a different note, it is totally heartbreaking to see Taina's obvious favouritism in todays vlog. Poor KJ quite timidly stated he would like a shark too, and she immediately stated that they were sharing. Omega was infatuated with the shark, and I understand that so he probably wouldn't have wanted to share, but she should have brought a toy for each of them, they are small toys, four of them wouldn't have taken up much room, nor would they have cost too much. They would have probably taken up less room than those awful shoes she was wearing around Disney Land. It's such a shame to see KJ be left out again.

Also they are going to Disney AGAIN ??? Maybe focus on spending your money on proper clothes and shoes for your children, Paying for more educational days out or better food and more balanced diets. Rather than wasting your money on Disney again. I honestly cannot believe that they will be doing another 6 or 7 Vlogs of the same boring content at DisneyLand. Well I guess the children really aren't getting anything out this trip other than DisneyLand, and various other theme parks.

When is Shakespears birthday? Surely they it must be in the winter, lets hope she had brought more appropriate clothing now. Because if they are in Paris now then it is going to be cold.
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Taina and her weird breast feeding again, just lugging Omega around by his neck. More yanking of small kids by their arms. Ouch. Romeo really yanked one of the little ones while they were standing in the aquarium tunnel. They were also blocking the way for everyone else! Did she care though? Nobody gets between Taina and her perfect photo. She also stormed right past Paul at one point, shoving him out of the way! Her filming is rubbish, too jerky and moves too quickly when she pans - I end up feeling queasy.

More Disneyland? No thanks.

Also, what is with the wonky timeline? They talked about having the weird-ass dinner we saw them eat 2 videos ago.

KJ is so sweet and it is so hard to see him being ignored by his mother :( His speech is so much better than Nef's, he is clear and pronounces well.
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honeybeex wrote:Introducing ourselves was such a good idea, I attempted to do it earlier but I got caught up with work. Anyway better late than never !!
I am Phoebe, (Hence the nickname Honey Bee, which is what my dad calls me) I am 28, and I am from south west London. Luckily an hour away from Windsor so far enough away from LegoLand to not see the family !! LOL.
I have a 4 year old daughter Niamh, and I am a solicitor who specialises in practicing family law, at a small local firm, which I have done since I graduated at 22.
I hope to get married soon (if my boyfriend ever proposes haha) and hopefully extend my family in the future :)
Like the majority of you, I began watching the Licciardo-Toivola's in November last year when they were in my suggestion box. I had been watching the Chatwins at the time and assumed this was why. But Taina began uploading more I became increasingly concerned with the family, and began reading here. :)

On a different note, it is totally heartbreaking to see Taina's obvious favouritism in todays vlog. Poor KJ quite timidly stated he would like a shark too, and she immediately stated that they were sharing. Omega was infatuated with the shark, and I understand that so he probably wouldn't have wanted to share, but she should have brought a toy for each of them, they are small toys, four of them wouldn't have taken up much room, nor would they have cost too much. They would have probably taken up less room than those awful shoes she was wearing around Disney Land. It's such a shame to see KJ be left out again.

Also they are going to Disney AGAIN ??? Maybe focus on spending your money on proper clothes and shoes for your children, Paying for more educational days out or better food and more balanced diets. Rather than wasting your money on Disney again. I honestly cannot believe that they will be doing another 6 or 7 Vlogs of the same boring content at DisneyLand. Well I guess the children really aren't getting anything out this trip other than DisneyLand, and various other theme parks.

When is Shakespears birthday? Surely they it must be in the winter, lets hope she had brought more appropriate clothing now. Because if they are in Paris now then it is going to be cold.
Why did she throw out or sell ALL those toy animals back at the house?! She could have had one bin full of them for all the kids to enjoy! No need to share these nonsensical things she purchases. I agree learning sharing is important but come on 3 brats to share amongst 4 children 1 whom is mild timid and has learned his place as mom’s most disliked child. Because let’s be honest that’s EXACTLY how Taina treats him! If Taina could have had all girls she would have. To be quite honest I think she has resentment for not having him being born a girl because perhaps she would have stopped having more children? Perhaps she wanted equal boys and girls and that got “ruined for her” and she would only have had to have one more guhl following? (speaking as a narcissist Taina would interpret this as. Not thoughts of my own!!) So she now takes that frustration and anger out on KJ. Just speculating of course but to me there’s something OFF and MAJORLY disgusting about how he is treated compared to the rest of the kids. There’s something deeply darkly twisted about his relationship with Taina.


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I think her plan was to alway have ten children, though that being said, I agree with the assumption that she would have liked more girls. Though I think because KJ is a boy, he is often left out of her praises, because he's not a "brave boy" like her other boys, he is (in her words) "a wimp and a cry baby".
Omega gets the attention because he is Taina's last chance of being a mother to a baby , so she babies him. Aph and Nef get all the remainder of her attention because they are her little "princess butterfly bambi" girls. She is weirdly obsessed with making them her princesses, and that pushes KJ out of the picture. He gets no attention because he's not as loud or aggressive as the others, and doesn't act up for the camera. It is so sad because he used to get a lot of attention from Jer, his buddy, but he seems to get little attention from anybody now. :(
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xrubyx99 wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:40 am Once again, King James is being left out. She let Aphrodite and Omega each pick out a toy shark at the gift shop. Apparently the boys are to share theirs and the girls are to share theirs. Omega is playing with the shark and king James is watching and says “I want a shark” multiple times until Taina says “you’ll get a go at the shark soon. Don’t want to end up with too much stuff!” If you’re not gonna buy some thing for all the littles Taina, don’t buy anything at all. I have a niece and a nephew, they’re twins, I would never buy them a toy to “share”. They all need to feel special.


I disagree slightly, ruby...i wd deffo buy two similar age siblings sthing they could share between them.
They need to learn early that sometimes you have to take turns,and they are old enough to do so.
I think the situation recently was very unfair,when the prinnies both got mickey ears and dresses,and we were anxious to see if KJ got the ( was it Buzz Lightyear ) suit...
if T didnt buy it in the end,after the girls had had so much,that was totally unfair..we havent seen any evidence of him wearing said suit even tho she promised she wd buy it for him.Heartbreaking.

I havent watchd the latest yet, but probably Omega will keep hold of that shark longer than is fair and poor Kj will wait a long time for a turn,or may have to wait til Om gets bored ImageImageImage
I guess I just don’t see the point in buying only 2 cheap plastic sharks between 4 children, when she just could’ve bought 2 more and every child could feel special with their OWN shark. We saw that Omega was not sharing the entire time they had the shark. I don’t think she’s trying to teach them to share. She just has her favorites. King James and Nefertiti know how to share because we’ve seen it first hand. But Aphrodite and Omega are the babies so they’re spoiled. I feel so bad for KingJames.
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I really wonder what the heck the resentment is against little KJ?! Taina what is wrong with you that makes you treat him like the family scape goat and allow other children to treat him poorly, as well?! Did the prophetess mommy in law cut you off because she didn’t want you having anymore kids and got sick of paying your bills? So once you got cut off and turned out it was for a boy you were mad? Is that why you make abhorrently disgusting comments about religion on your channel? What IS it?! There is a reason perhaps, you’re subconsciously doing it... But come on work that out with the help of someone and knock it off! You keep showing your ugly on camera so much and your plastic surgery trumping care for the littles you wont be able to buy enough subs to keep going. Especially, with the lack of quality boring content we get everyday. No one misses you when you fail to post. No one gets worried or lives stop... MANY you tubers don’t post within the HOUR of their “normal” content schedules and people are losing their minds commenting what’s wrong are you okay?! You don’t have that kind of grasp or pull you once had even just a few months ago... What is the final Hail Mary going to be to save this channel? I think you need to get serious about ending the Disneyland BS and finding a home with priorities. Doesn’t Europe have laws about mandating kids have legal bedrooms? For example in Pennsylvania, USA, A legal bedroom is a room with a closet and a window. If your children are different gender over the age of toddler they must have separate rooms. What is going on with this wayward we don’t properly school them, feed them or even have normal sleeping arrangements but who cares! Is this REALLY legal long term? How long until someone seriously says enough is enough and has you arrested it isn’t hard to wait for you at theme parks...


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