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There are only 2 items on that menu suitable for them, it does not cater to vegans at all. Why did she pick that place if they are plant-based??? The ice-cream is definitely not vegan either, and nowhere on the menu does it say they can offer vegan alternatives. I don't think they are plant-based at all, I think all those tinned bean meals are entirely for show and they eat meat usually.
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New or used Tommy Hilfiger sweater.
TT doesn’t strike me as the type that would buy used clothing.
For me, the big question that remains about their previous life in the house and now this crazy ass odyssey is, where is the money coming from?
Was it on here that someone posted about what she makes on YouTube!? Per month, it was a healthy amount. As others have stated, her subscription and views don’t match so she may be buying subs. I searched and couldn’t find what they cost. Is she seeing that her ride on YT is waning and that’s the reason for her flood of lackluster videos knowing the cash cow may end?
So many questions that may never be answered but I stick around, not for her videos but, rather for what anyone here finds out.
Leo has not posted any videos in three weeks. It must have dawned on him that he has no life.
TT doesn’t strike me as the type that would buy used clothing.
For me, the big question that remains about their previous life in the house and now this crazy ass odyssey is, where is the money coming from?
Was it on here that someone posted about what she makes on YouTube!? Per month, it was a healthy amount. As others have stated, her subscription and views don’t match so she may be buying subs. I searched and couldn’t find what they cost. Is she seeing that her ride on YT is waning and that’s the reason for her flood of lackluster videos knowing the cash cow may end?
So many questions that may never be answered but I stick around, not for her videos but, rather for what anyone here finds out.
Leo has not posted any videos in three weeks. It must have dawned on him that he has no life.
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I hope Leo is ok. I find him irritating but I dont like to think he’s depressed,sad,etc..
He was used to being surrounded by family ( dysfunctional as it is,but most families are,to some extent) For years he has had the company of several siblings and his parents,and I expect he loves and misses all of them. Maybe an odd upbringing,but if thats what you have lived with,its your norm.
Very hard if its now just him and Jenna,his folks are all over the place,and no routine or work of his own to fill the days.
It wd be good to know he is ok
He was used to being surrounded by family ( dysfunctional as it is,but most families are,to some extent) For years he has had the company of several siblings and his parents,and I expect he loves and misses all of them. Maybe an odd upbringing,but if thats what you have lived with,its your norm.
Very hard if its now just him and Jenna,his folks are all over the place,and no routine or work of his own to fill the days.
It wd be good to know he is ok
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Wildebeast-cps wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:55 am New or used Tommy Hilfiger sweater.
TT doesn’t strike me as the type that would buy used clothing.
For me, the big question that remains about their previous life in the house and now this crazy ass odyssey is, where is the money coming from?
Was it on here that someone posted about what she makes on YouTube!? Per month, it was a healthy amount. As others have stated, her subscription and views don’t match so she may be buying subs. I searched and couldn’t find what they cost. Is she seeing that her ride on YT is waning and that’s the reason for her flood of lackluster videos knowing the cash cow may end?
So many questions that may never be answered but I stick around, not for her videos but, rather for what anyone here finds out.
Leo has not posted any videos in three weeks. It must have dawned on him that he has no life.
Yup,me too,really wd like to know...on this trip they often look like they haven't got two pennies to rub together ( unkempt,scruffy kids)
but one thing’s for sure..nobody ever does a tap of work and yet they have spent ( wasted) a ton of dosh in many many different countries this year.
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I have one question - if they are still crossing countries, and Taina always says ,,We are driving 8 hour per night to our next destination ... bla bla ,, - it has to be dangerous. Isnt that? She wants to look like super mother - she is taking care of their children, having VEGAN FOOD and driving for so long time - and also for Cleopatra - she is too young for this long driving with kids in her car. They have to be soo tired, including kids sitting in the car
Their trip doesnt make sense at all. She is doing that only for to say ,, I was in Luxembourg, France and Belgium in one day,, Uuuh, great. But if you noticed - at the start of their trip, they were not so fast as now. It was more relaxing... There were crossing countries without plans, but now I feel pressure in theirs vlogs. Its like ,,run run run!! ,, Cross all countries in one day, lol
Their trip doesnt make sense at all. She is doing that only for to say ,, I was in Luxembourg, France and Belgium in one day,, Uuuh, great. But if you noticed - at the start of their trip, they were not so fast as now. It was more relaxing... There were crossing countries without plans, but now I feel pressure in theirs vlogs. Its like ,,run run run!! ,, Cross all countries in one day, lol
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Luxembourg isn't far from Austria and the weather actually fits. They are still eating the same: Sauerkraut, chick peas and green peas. Looks yummy...noooot. And I bet they stopped with the vitamins like B12 and that's why she is so keen on eating fermented food. Taina, please, please, please, take your B12. There's not enough bacteria in store bought Sauerkraut and the bacteria in your gut is too far down to provide you with B12. Think about your children, please.
Okay, nearly puked. They have mayonnaise in their Sauerkraut... O.O And I feel so bad seeing them using those paper plates. It's so lavish.
Luxembourg looks like Austria before the EU too our money. xD At least the Union provides peace...so I guess it's okay, but they really milk us like cash cows and we have to pay them punishment fees all the time too.
Taina gets all exited that they had breakfast in France, lunch in luxembourg and dinner in Belgium. It's so sad - they have seen nothing.
I feel also really sad for them hence the greens are turning all brownish and it's cold at night and even at daytime. It's also rather wet...I really don't want to see them running around in short sleeved white shirts like they did. Especially not at night! No wonder the small ones wanted to run inside the restaurant as fast es possible. At least they didn't wear slides.
Taina seems to have told Jerusalem to look more exited. He clapped his hands like a robot. Cleo was grinning like an electric doll and Taina really has good taste in music. It was awful...
The waiter brought coloring books - it doesn't seem that Taina thinks it worthy to put in the video that they got it gifted, but of course, she's TT, she is the center of the universe.
They ate non-vegan again. Can't say I'm sad about it, seeing what dishes the kids it whilst traveling. They would starve...and malnourishment seems still an issue. Sadly she seemed to have ordered less nutrious food for the little ones. I don't get her...
They had luck with the place though. Really nice. I would go there, if I would know where it is and visit Belgium.
And they had a run...4 countries in a day. They are already in the Netherlands. -_-
Jerusalem looks awful too. Maybe he feels for Leo and that he can't be there for him. I really hope he still has some support...plus J lost loads of weight and his head fell forward. Their posture suffers.
The travel takes a toll on all of the children.
Taina homeschooled today...even Omega. I want to see that - it probably shocks me to death.
Okay, nearly puked. They have mayonnaise in their Sauerkraut... O.O And I feel so bad seeing them using those paper plates. It's so lavish.
Luxembourg looks like Austria before the EU too our money. xD At least the Union provides peace...so I guess it's okay, but they really milk us like cash cows and we have to pay them punishment fees all the time too.
Taina gets all exited that they had breakfast in France, lunch in luxembourg and dinner in Belgium. It's so sad - they have seen nothing.
I feel also really sad for them hence the greens are turning all brownish and it's cold at night and even at daytime. It's also rather wet...I really don't want to see them running around in short sleeved white shirts like they did. Especially not at night! No wonder the small ones wanted to run inside the restaurant as fast es possible. At least they didn't wear slides.
Taina seems to have told Jerusalem to look more exited. He clapped his hands like a robot. Cleo was grinning like an electric doll and Taina really has good taste in music. It was awful...
The waiter brought coloring books - it doesn't seem that Taina thinks it worthy to put in the video that they got it gifted, but of course, she's TT, she is the center of the universe.
They ate non-vegan again. Can't say I'm sad about it, seeing what dishes the kids it whilst traveling. They would starve...and malnourishment seems still an issue. Sadly she seemed to have ordered less nutrious food for the little ones. I don't get her...
They had luck with the place though. Really nice. I would go there, if I would know where it is and visit Belgium.
And they had a run...4 countries in a day. They are already in the Netherlands. -_-
Jerusalem looks awful too. Maybe he feels for Leo and that he can't be there for him. I really hope he still has some support...plus J lost loads of weight and his head fell forward. Their posture suffers.
The travel takes a toll on all of the children.
Taina homeschooled today...even Omega. I want to see that - it probably shocks me to death.
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I would laugh so hard if they drive back to Finland instead of Australia xDDDDD
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I think It looks Jerusalem doesn't want to be a part of these vlogs. He looks more sad. I always thought, he is the one "normal" in this family with Leo and maybe now with Dartagnan, because they are almost the young adult, and they see this life is not normal. The younger ones are influenced by their mother. But I found some photos from the Jerusalems and Cleopatras childhood, and they were normal teenagers with colorfull clothes. But they didnt be on photos with Leonardo, weird, because they are of similar age.
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I'm usually pretty critical of the recent videos as I came to this family when they popped up in my feed...like everyone else it seems...with the morning routine for a mum of ten. Initially I liked them a lot for how soothingly organised they were. The RV videos have been the opposite of all the things I liked them for. Like all of you, I was fearing for the health of the children with the peas, mashed potatoes and kidney beans type dinners and the lack of apparent routine. But you know, i have to say, I saw again what I initially liked, just in the last few videos. Children who clearly LOVE each other and their parents. And really, that's what matters. Yes it's an adventure, yes it's crazy, yes it lack the most basic Googling and planning, and yes it could be VERY much better in terms of nutrition and culture (there is ZERO culture and it's almost offensive to watch them trample a country, pretend to eat something typical and basically just visit a themepark and say Done) but you know, there is that LOVE and that tenderness between the children towards each other, and that is something real. And I think when we all ask ourselves, why do we watch this trainwreck in the making? That is the answer.
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Good points there wasting time!
As the Beatles sang,Allyou need is love..and despite all the drawbacks you rightly point out,and despite the fact there are so many kids all vying for attention and approval,there IS love between all the kids..
and i hope these kids will always be there for each other ( tho sadly,as far as we know,right now nobody’s there for Leo)
Not so sure about parental love..yeh I believe P n T do love their children,but T has a most unmotherly habit of always putting herself first,and this trip has proved she and P have neglected their kids many times and in many ways.
When i say T’s unmotherly,,I dont mean it shd be expected that all women should be maternal ...but if you want to be Multi Mum,you really need to be a person who’s extremely unselfish and has very strong maternal feelings! Which T hasnt demonstrated online at all.
As the Beatles sang,Allyou need is love..and despite all the drawbacks you rightly point out,and despite the fact there are so many kids all vying for attention and approval,there IS love between all the kids..
and i hope these kids will always be there for each other ( tho sadly,as far as we know,right now nobody’s there for Leo)
Not so sure about parental love..yeh I believe P n T do love their children,but T has a most unmotherly habit of always putting herself first,and this trip has proved she and P have neglected their kids many times and in many ways.
When i say T’s unmotherly,,I dont mean it shd be expected that all women should be maternal ...but if you want to be Multi Mum,you really need to be a person who’s extremely unselfish and has very strong maternal feelings! Which T hasnt demonstrated online at all.
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Sorry to be posting again about diet... The mashed potatoes for Omega! and recently I watched the episode with the vegan burgers... they only ordered them with vegan cheese, you would think they would go for a tofu burger or one made out of chickpeas (good sources of iron and protein) - that's not right, I see them continually basing meals around bread and salad, and sometimes they show plates of beans, for a toddler they need two cups cooked chickpeas (I think its a larger volume for lentils and maybe less for something richer in iron like soybeans) to reach their 9mg (toddlers need about 9mg, kids 10mg, 11mg for the teenage boys, 15mg for Cleopatra) of recommended intake daily, I think her kids are probably anemic (pale, lethargic, developmental delays, behavioral problems), and if she is giving them iron supplements without doctors advice that is bad when prolonged because they can cause other issues. I don't think eating meat is necessary for everybody (my family eats a lot of beans and legumes but I get so worried that my 2 year old won't eat enough to satisfy his iron needs that I make sure he also eats 3 servings of red meat a week), but the vegan lifestyle requires such careful attention to nutrients especially for growing children... it's also apparent she doesn't think about iron as she always comments on protein... protein is definitely easy to come by if you eat a variety of foods. The hots dogs sans the dogs for the wee ones was so sad, I would do the opposite? filling up on bread? I hope for they are secretly eating lots of iron rich foods off camera to build up those iron stores.
And OMG go home and get a bedtime routine! Those little ones must be so tired, all the driving around at night! It's all so crazy!
Rant over...
And OMG go home and get a bedtime routine! Those little ones must be so tired, all the driving around at night! It's all so crazy!
Rant over...
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Just what i was thinking pokemon...i’ m old school..all the kids up to and including Shakespeare shd be fed,bathed,asleep by 830. Not eating noisily in a restaurant and spoiling it for other dinersPokemon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:33 pm Sorry to be posting again about diet... The mashed potatoes for Omega! and recently I watched the episode with the vegan burgers... they only ordered them with vegan cheese, you would think they would go for a tofu burger or one made out of chickpeas (good sources of iron and protein) - that's not right, I see them continually basing meals around bread and salad, and sometimes they show plates of beans, for a toddler they need two cups cooked chickpeas (I think its a larger volume for lentils and maybe less for something richer in iron like soybeans) to reach their 9mg (toddlers need about 9mg, kids 10mg, 11mg for the teenage boys, 15mg for Cleopatra) of recommended intake daily, I think her kids are probably anemic (pale, lethargic, developmental delays, behavioral problems), and if she is giving them iron supplements without doctors advice that is bad when prolonged because they can cause other issues. I don't think eating meat is necessary for everybody (my family eats a lot of beans and legumes but I get so worried that my 2 year old won't eat enough to satisfy his iron needs that I make sure he also eats 3 servings of red meat a week), but the vegan lifestyle requires such careful attention to nutrients especially for growing children... it's also apparent she doesn't think about iron as she always comments on protein... protein is definitely easy to come by if you eat a variety of foods. The hots dogs sans the dogs for the wee ones was so sad, I would do the opposite? filling up on bread? I hope for they are secretly eating lots of iron rich foods off camera to build up those iron stores.
And OMG go home and get a bedtime routine! Those little ones must be so tired, all the driving around at night! It's all so crazy!
Rant over...
How very rude as usual too,making a commotion outside at 11pm
Taina was particularly irritating tonight for all the usual yawnmaking reasons
And were we supposed to applaud “ Aphrodite aged two” saying this looks delicious?
Paul pulled Omega up by his arm
Omega needs checking now he is two for that bad temper of his
Jez looks thoroughly pissed off
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At the end she says they will are going to visit "some silver thing in Belgium".. Taina do you mean the ATOMIUM?! I love like she doesn't even pretend as she would really care
And pointing out how Aphrodite is able to say "delicious"? Totally normal for a nearly three year old, only highlights how bad Nefs speech is.
I am glad that they ate in a restaurant, that food she has shown before is just disgusting. (not the single ingredients, but how they arrange it)
My mother is from Russia and they where a family of 8 children. They had enough food to grow up and everything, but it was kind of always limited as you have to plan always in advance for such a big family and they will be rarely leftovers and yes, one BIG reason for that is money.
It's not that they where just "naturally thin", there was just no way become overweight
These children behave exactly like my mother described her childhood:
-ALWAYS hungry
-NEVER say no to anything (because of the point above)
-rivalry over food (you can see that in one of the beach videos when T prepares her salad burgers and Jers took a big piece T gave to D'Artagnan and he got a smaller one. They had to make another few burgers because it was not nearly enough) so that means you get always a piece, but you will never feel really full and have "enough" of what you love..
- and a little T plus: showing favouritism trough food. do you remember when nef was the only one who got a piece of cake on her birthday? And the others had to sit and watch her eating it
Feeding nine growing children with beans and lentils everyday is one thing, but that we heard the little ones repeatedly asking for water just breaks my heart. If someone feels thirsty, that means your body is already dehydrated. Furthermore, children don't feel as fast thirsty as adults do, because their feeling for it isn't fully developed yet.
That means if a 1,2,3 year old asks you for water and water again it means that child must be VERY thirsty and dehydrated and should have been offered to drink something waaay time before. This is a huge lack of monitoring of them..
I wonder if they maybe don't want to buy too much water. For that size of family it should be at least 13-15 litres per day. Did you see a water canister in their van? Do you think they buy at least seven 2l water bottles a day?
And pointing out how Aphrodite is able to say "delicious"? Totally normal for a nearly three year old, only highlights how bad Nefs speech is.
I am glad that they ate in a restaurant, that food she has shown before is just disgusting. (not the single ingredients, but how they arrange it)
My mother is from Russia and they where a family of 8 children. They had enough food to grow up and everything, but it was kind of always limited as you have to plan always in advance for such a big family and they will be rarely leftovers and yes, one BIG reason for that is money.
It's not that they where just "naturally thin", there was just no way become overweight
These children behave exactly like my mother described her childhood:
-ALWAYS hungry
-NEVER say no to anything (because of the point above)
-rivalry over food (you can see that in one of the beach videos when T prepares her salad burgers and Jers took a big piece T gave to D'Artagnan and he got a smaller one. They had to make another few burgers because it was not nearly enough) so that means you get always a piece, but you will never feel really full and have "enough" of what you love..
- and a little T plus: showing favouritism trough food. do you remember when nef was the only one who got a piece of cake on her birthday? And the others had to sit and watch her eating it
Feeding nine growing children with beans and lentils everyday is one thing, but that we heard the little ones repeatedly asking for water just breaks my heart. If someone feels thirsty, that means your body is already dehydrated. Furthermore, children don't feel as fast thirsty as adults do, because their feeling for it isn't fully developed yet.
That means if a 1,2,3 year old asks you for water and water again it means that child must be VERY thirsty and dehydrated and should have been offered to drink something waaay time before. This is a huge lack of monitoring of them..
I wonder if they maybe don't want to buy too much water. For that size of family it should be at least 13-15 litres per day. Did you see a water canister in their van? Do you think they buy at least seven 2l water bottles a day?
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The last vlog was about galloping through Europe. Those kids see nothing in the countries they cross apart from roads. Scrolled past it, as the first sight of a delightful sauerkraut with mayonnaise, chickepas and peas made me want to puke. They all look absolutely exhausted - this trip is not fun to anyone anymore. Taina, stop this nonsense. Kids running around in the middle of the night, total chaos in life, no view to any sort of routine. And they learn nothing. Their behaviour also seems to get worse and worse. Now they have become an unbearable , loud, undisciplined horde of barbarians, with no repspect for their surroundings, no interest in anythong at all. I am appalled by the latest vlogs.
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"'Thank you' :Me"
Lmaooooo
She really threw that in, huh
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She really threw that in, huh
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I totally agree. There is no structure or routine as I have said before. Homeschooling while the others go and 'explore'. I dread to n think what her homeschooling is like as she is not very bright. She is going to drag this out for another couple of months I bet and those kids will suffer because of it.draconessa wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:05 pm The last vlog was about galloping through Europe. Those kids see nothing in the countries they cross apart from roads. Scrolled past it, as the first sight of a delightful sauerkraut with mayonnaise, chickepas and peas made me want to puke. They all look absolutely exhausted - this trip is not fun to anyone anymore. Taina, stop this nonsense. Kids running around in the middle of the night, total chaos in life, no view to any sort of routine. And they learn nothing. Their behaviour also seems to get worse and worse. Now they have become an unbearable , loud, undisciplined horde of barbarians, with no repspect for their surroundings, no interest in anythong at all. I am appalled by the latest vlogs.
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Yeh! I know! Just to let us know that once in a lifetime,one of them actually says thanks!theoddmacabre wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:11 pm "'Thank you' :Me"
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Well, that is something unexpected, as she TT does not appear to teach her offspring the magical words, like 'thank you', 'please' or 'sorry'. That is funny how that trip stripped us of all the illusions we had with regards to her and her family ...Herbert-Sherbert2019 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:02 amYeh! I know! Just to let us know that once in a lifetime,one of them actually says thanks!theoddmacabre wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:11 pm "'Thank you' :Me"
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So true! This trip has shown her true colours!draconessa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:25 amWell, that is something unexpected, as she TT does not appear to teach her offspring the magical words, like 'thank you', 'please' or 'sorry'. That is funny how that trip stripped us of all the illusions we had with regards to her and her family ...Herbert-Sherbert2019 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:02 amYeh! I know! Just to let us know that once in a lifetime,one of them actually says thanks!theoddmacabre wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:11 pm "'Thank you' :Me"
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Hi! I just had to register here because i've been reading your comments and couldn't agree more. I live in Finland, in the same city as this odd family and by the way, they were here last week in the grocery store casually shopping like they would own the store.. Easy to notice as finnish people are usually quiet, have manners and don't make such a big deal of themselves.