The sad part: I would argue that’s exactly what she is doing. He’s just not old enough to realize it. Eventually he will realize that mom is only happy with him when he’s calm, well behaved and more like his sister. So he will try to change to be the way she wants so she will love him. Or, he’ll eventually give up and won’t be in her life as an adult.Boymomma123 wrote:There was this comment her mom made on the Thanksgiving pictures of Brooks that Katie responded to in a weird way. [IMG]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201911 ... 4c63c3.jpg[/IMG]
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It is really hard for me to be sympathetic toward parents who struggle to love their children like Katie.angelfire89 wrote:The sad part: I would argue that’s exactly what she is doing. He’s just not old enough to realize it. Eventually he will realize that mom is only happy with him when he’s calm, well behaved and more like his sister. So he will try to change to be the way she wants so she will love him. Or, he’ll eventually give up and won’t be in her life as an adult.Boymomma123 wrote:There was this comment her mom made on the Thanksgiving pictures of Brooks that Katie responded to in a weird way. [IMG]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201911 ... 4c63c3.jpg[/IMG]
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Both of my kids are way different in so many ways and we celebrate those differences. I don't sit there and think well why aren't you like your brother?
I see this as a trend with yt parents, they got so much praise for Gaines and her development and their skills as parents. Maybe they were just embarrassed that Brooks did not bring them the same praise and attention. Gaines was always willing to be in vlogs and perform for the vlogs. I remember a vlog where Cullen talked about Brooks not wanting to be filmed and refusing to show off for the camera. I think they would have been more accepting of his personality if they weren't vloggers.
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Is it literally impossible for her to post about Brooks and not make a dig about him and how “rough” he is? I’m about at the point of unfollowing them I can’t stand the favoritism.
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I just watched the JK today thanksgiving vlog and its looked like a lovely day with family.Not over the top, just nice and relaxing. All Jay's family came and Doc & Dolly.......It just made me wonder what in the heck has happened in that family this year that the only people missing were C&K??
I get it if they were feeling a bit suffocated by the family and wanted to do their own thing a bit more but I really think its more than that. I feel like sooner or later its gonna be addressed by either C&K or J&k. My guess is that there will be a big arguement over the holidays along with lots of questions from followers and someone will spill. My guess- Jay & Kelley.
I get it if they were feeling a bit suffocated by the family and wanted to do their own thing a bit more but I really think its more than that. I feel like sooner or later its gonna be addressed by either C&K or J&k. My guess is that there will be a big arguement over the holidays along with lots of questions from followers and someone will spill. My guess- Jay & Kelley.
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After the bit with the dog, I am really starting to believe that Jay and Kelley said something to them about C&K's behavior making them look bad.
It's plausible...
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Oh yeah I’m sure that happened but I it can’t be just that because it’s been going on about a year now and doc & dolly appear to be involved also. It really makes me wonder if c&k have done something really terrible......
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I still think the rift between stems from Cullen claiming to be an addict and Katie probably pointed out Jay’s behavior. You can’t convince me that Jay wasn’t under the influence when hanging out with Cullen. They were together nearly everyday. Kelley’s true feelings about Cullen probably came out and Doc and Dolly probably sided with her. I’m sure they all think Cullen’s addiction is the result of being raised without money and Jay couldn’t possibly have a problem because he’s rich and goes to work everyday. I don’t think they’re embarrassed by their behavior in the neighborhood. They don’t seem particularly close with any of the other neighbors. They don’t share the same last name so I doubt the neighbors realize they’re related. I think Kelley and Jay are more upset about friends and family drawing conclusions about Jay. Maybe even their kids drawing conclusions about Jay.
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The only thing I disagree with is the statement that Jay and Kelley don't seem close to any of the other neighbors. They entertain a lot, and their daughter is doing cotillion and doesn't Kelley play tennis? Their image is very important to them. And even without the same last name, they socialized a lot together when C&K moved in.
It may not be the only reason, but letting the dogs run, leashless (especially on the golf course) the hot tub in the driveway, driving the golf cart obviously intoxicated-- it couldn't have helped.
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It may not be the only reason, but letting the dogs run, leashless (especially on the golf course) the hot tub in the driveway, driving the golf cart obviously intoxicated-- it couldn't have helped.
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I do remember thinking about 18m ago that Jay seemed to be heading down a similar road to Cullen but I got the feeling about a year ago that him and Kelley realized what was happening and stopped it. It probably seemed like C&K and this great life and income( which is why Kelley started vlogging) but once they saw the realities they have pulled back.Lovethesnark wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:50 am I still think the rift between stems from Cullen claiming to be an addict and Katie probably pointed out Jay’s behavior. You can’t convince me that Jay wasn’t under the influence when hanging out with Cullen. They were together nearly everyday. Kelley’s true feelings about Cullen probably came out and Doc and Dolly probably sided with her. I’m sure they all think Cullen’s addiction is the result of being raised without money and Jay couldn’t possibly have a problem because he’s rich and goes to work everyday. I don’t think they’re embarrassed by their behavior in the neighborhood. They don’t seem particularly close with any of the other neighbors. They don’t share the same last name so I doubt the neighbors realize they’re related. I think Kelley and Jay are more upset about friends and family drawing conclusions about Jay. Maybe even their kids drawing conclusions about Jay.
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I’m sure the rift is due to a combination of factors but I do still think there was one major event that resulted in it all coming out
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As someone who has family members that no longer speak (my brother and my father), the straw that broke the camels back and started the 3 years of not speaking was a smallllll thing. Sometimes if there’s been years of dysfunction nothing big has to happen to trigger a rift.irishmiss wrote:Oh yeah I’m sure that happened but I it can’t be just that because it’s been going on about a year now and doc & dolly appear to be involved also. It really makes me wonder if c&k have done something really terrible......
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I’m sure Cullen AND Katie’s inability to act like mature adults (and all that’s been going along with that) has a lot to do with the rift. No doubt Katie’s family told them to grow up, and Katie (who doesn’t exactly take criticism well) took offence and decided to dig her heals in and freeze them out. They are the problem... not her. The way she treats Cullen is a large indicator of how she likely treats others in her life. She’s perfect as is, so feedback is not appreciated. Any suggestion that she return to work (and stop drinking herself) would no doubt be met with righteous indignation. We’ve seen Dolly get angry with them for things like leaving Gaines in the car while they go out for lunch, and Katie still did nothing. I don’t think her behaviour has as much to do with wanting to please her parents and fit in with her sister as everyone else here does. I don’t think their problems can be blamed on any of Katie’s family. The immaturity that led Cullen and Katie to start YT in the first place and become lazy sloths who improperly care for their pets and kids is all on them. I mean, you have to be incredibly lazy and entitled to let your dogs free run on the golf course, and let your cats piss all over your house without doing anything about it..... and these are the things they choose to show! Just think what we are we not seeing that Katie’s family might be...
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I also wonder if C and K read here so frequently that they realized Kelly showed some pretty nasty behavior from Gaines in her vlogs before the rift started.
I remember they were at Doc and Dolly's house for some family function and Gaines was pushing Jay's brothers daughter and just displaying bratty behavior. Maybe Katie said something to her sister about editing out footage like that.
I think HelloSweetie has it right, Katie is ALWAYS right! Constructive criticism does not get through to her so now her family is just toxic and judgemental. Who knows, we probably will never know the truth I doubt they will ever talk about it.
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I remember they were at Doc and Dolly's house for some family function and Gaines was pushing Jay's brothers daughter and just displaying bratty behavior. Maybe Katie said something to her sister about editing out footage like that.
I think HelloSweetie has it right, Katie is ALWAYS right! Constructive criticism does not get through to her so now her family is just toxic and judgemental. Who knows, we probably will never know the truth I doubt they will ever talk about it.
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I listened to a few of Katie’s podcasts the other day. I think Katie blames the way she was brought up for a bunch of her “trust yourself” issues. She said both her and Cullen gave one another the silent treatment because that is the relationship model they both had. She also said in another podcast that she wasn’t going to make her kids dress like “other kids” to make other people happy. She said Gaines shouldn’t have to wear big bows in her hair because that’s what is expected of her from someone else. (Pretty sure Granddolly buys a lot of those matching dresses for Gaines and Emily.)
I think once Katie realized she and Cullen were never going to live up to the “country club lifestyle” her parents expected of them, she completely went the other way bucking traditions and giving her mom the big FU all in the name of “trust yourself”. No more Granddolly days, replying/arguing with Granddolly on IG about how “things should not bring you happiness”. I’m sure Kelley takes Granddolly’s side and they both think Katie is being a raging asshole. Kelley and Granddolly obviously do quite a bit together without Katie so I’m sure they talk about her constantly. Maybe Katie realized she and Cullen are the black sheep so she’s really giving the family a run for their money.
I do think the sisters were together this weekend decorating Granddoc and Granddolly’s house for Christmas though. It looked like it in the birthday message they sent Granddoc and the timing would make sense.
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I think once Katie realized she and Cullen were never going to live up to the “country club lifestyle” her parents expected of them, she completely went the other way bucking traditions and giving her mom the big FU all in the name of “trust yourself”. No more Granddolly days, replying/arguing with Granddolly on IG about how “things should not bring you happiness”. I’m sure Kelley takes Granddolly’s side and they both think Katie is being a raging asshole. Kelley and Granddolly obviously do quite a bit together without Katie so I’m sure they talk about her constantly. Maybe Katie realized she and Cullen are the black sheep so she’s really giving the family a run for their money.
I do think the sisters were together this weekend decorating Granddoc and Granddolly’s house for Christmas though. It looked like it in the birthday message they sent Granddoc and the timing would make sense.
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That’s kind of where I’m going with this. We only see a small glimpse into their lives and they choose what to tell us yet we know there has been drink and drug abuse in that house and how they were unable to function enough to get the everyday things done. Just imagine how much worse things actually were/are!!HelloSweetie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:59 am and these are the things they choose to show! Just think what we are we not seeing that Katie’s family might be...
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Katie’s family knew they were having problems I’m sure but I think they happened to find out something a lot worse than we know about that caused the big rift. Like I wonder have they done something illegal (other than the drug taking) or Neglect the kids or something
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Didn’t Cullen and Katie go to Thanksgiving dinner the day before at Grandoc and Grandolly’s house? Jay, Kelley and their kids were there too. On Thanksgiving Day itself Cullen and Katie spent it with Cullen’s family. I don’t see a problem with that. We used to do the same thing when my husband’s mother was still living. We would have Thanksgiving dinner at her house on Wednesday with her, his siblings and families. We would spend actual Thanksgiving with my parents, step-parents, siblings and their families. Yes my parents remained friends and we would all celebrate the holidays together as a family.irishmiss wrote:I just watched the JK today thanksgiving vlog and its looked like a lovely day with family.Not over the top, just nice and relaxing. All Jay's family came and Doc & Dolly.......It just made me wonder what in the heck has happened in that family this year that the only people missing were C&K??
I get it if they were feeling a bit suffocated by the family and wanted to do their own thing a bit more but I really think its more than that. I feel like sooner or later its gonna be addressed by either C&K or J&k. My guess is that there will be a big arguement over the holidays along with lots of questions from followers and someone will spill. My guess- Jay & Kelley.
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Katie learned her behavior from somewhere. She’s an adult and no one else should be held responsible for how she acts now. I don’t think she’s completely the blame for the state of her relationships with her family. We could see that they had problems for years before they admitted it. I’m certain her family knew as well. I’m fairly certain her family was the reason Katie in particular was super defensive about Cullen’s choice to do YouTube. She became even more defensive when she quit her job. I don’t think her family suggesting that they get jobs would set her off. I don’t think it’s anything new coming from them. The relationships changed when Katie and Cullen started being a little bit more honest about their situation. If they could have kept up the facade, I don’t think we would see the distance between them. Grandberry visited them way less than Katie’s family, but she walked in on them being wasted on a weeknight and busted their asses. I can’t imagine how many times Dolly or Kelley witnessed the same and nothing changed. I doubt that’s the only thing Grandberry has busted their asses about, but their relationship with her hasn’t suffered.
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They are going to use what happen to Emma to make 15 videos about it for views. Sad!
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What I can't believe is all the viewers who watch that crap and don't call them out for their b.s. They just continue to praise them.Littlemama wrote:They are going to use what happen to Emma to make 15 videos about it for views. Sad!
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And still will only have 6k views...Littlemama wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:43 am They are going to use what happen to Emma to make 15 videos about it for views. Sad!
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I am listening to Katie's podcast "The Danger of Not Trusting Yourself." She said she was very specifically taught while growing up not to trust herself. She wore one of her "Trust Yourself" shirts to her parents' house, and her mom said, "You know that's the opposite of what I've always taught you." That blows my mind.
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