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skipperpt wrote:On yesterday’s lie feed, Bison was asked to name some family holiday traditions. He mentioned 3, none of which included the girls. Looks like they rolled off the couch and went to the first one last night.
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They are such douches.
The only “tradition” my husband and I have that doesn’t involve our kids is his family work party or the group party with the Kinsmen (service group). We usually only pick one to go to.......I don’t people well, if I could I’d be a hermit
Christmas is supposed to be about the kids.........oh wait, Twatson and Twatley are the two biggest children, my bad, so it’s all about them.
Looks like “fan mail” is back.... it’s from one of the edit girls. I won’t share the IG post, because it leaves her full address visible, bet Bison didn’t even give a thought about that. It’s blurry, but could be figured out. Not a care for anyone else.
This video was posted only on the edit girls IG stories, not Bison’s.... soooo I guess he’s still privately messaging these girls. (I can only assume underage girls would be this fanatical with creating pictures and videos of people they don’t even know).
Bottom line, regardless of whether they are underage (which most appear to be), Tyson is a MARRIED man. Completely out of line... YouTube “famous” or not!
skipperpt wrote:On yesterday’s lie feed, Bison was asked to name some family holiday traditions. He mentioned 3, none of which included the girls. Looks like they rolled off the couch and went to the first one last night.
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In the comments someone said this was amazing & Tyler said “I cry every time”.
Really??? A grown man cries over a Christmas Carol?? ..... umm ok. Also, no “besties” to go watch it with??? Have we even see any “besties” lately?? Life is looking pretty lame for them right now... everyone seems to be abandoning ship.
Here’s a thought Greedners. Instead of escaping your children constantly. Include them in your “traditions”! They will be 5 this month. Pop in “Muppet Christmas Carol” at home, give them some hot chocolate & popcorn.. and let them experience these “traditions”.
I’ll now wait to see them completing the above suggestion and acting like they don’t read here. You’re welcome!
To be honest, I think LGM was really quite fair in her assessment of them. She said nice things as well as some criticism. If she had known them as well then as she obviously does now, she might not have been so generous.
I think the reason they have done this is in an immature attempt to control the comments. In honesty though, if their followers hadn’t been all over the comments, they probably would have died down more quickly.
There was one set of comments I was following closely, not out of any personal interest of course, where the followers tried to argue they hadn’t been left alone when the Gardners always admitted they had. The op made some points about why they felt the Gardners were being “neglectful” and one of their fans actually turned round and said that the op was making sensible, intelligent points that were thought provoking.
I think the Gardners are running very, very scared. Now they have made a knee-jerk reaction which is very possibly going to make things worse. Don’t they have management or lawyers who can advise them. I have mixed feelings about it falling apart for them, if I’m honest. As much as I cannot stand them, the people who are going to the worst off for it if this all falls apart, are the girls. They’ll not be worse off for not being indulged or for their parents being forced to go to work. However, they could face losing their home and their nanny and any tiny bit of stability that comes with that - although I really don’t feel nanny is around that much atm.
Nothing in this life is free and if making easy money off youtube for years seems to have been too good to be true, it’s because it is.
My daughter is really into the kpop industry, which may or may not have its own problems. However, the point I want to make is that they do a lot of vlogs about their daily lives and the level of work that goes on behind the scenes to bring you the level of quality you see in their finished product. They work damn hard and they are so humble and expect nothing. Before they earn a penny, they have to pay back the money the company has invested in their training. That might seem harsh, but I think it’s fair.
These family vloggers - particularly these idiots - think success comes from throwing together a vlog and half heartedly selling make-up or oils or weight-loss products through MLMs. They think they are celebrities. Do they even realise how hard actual celebrities really even work?
As I said nothing in life is free. You don’t get anything for nothing. If you want to be a success you have to work damned hard. They have set themselves up to fail and fail is what they’re going to do and those little girls are going to suffer. Having watched Tyson’s ig live last night, it’s clear how unstable he is. That’s the only reason I’m anxious and would urge LGM to be cautious. He is a bully, yes! Absolutely! However, at the moment I think he’s an unstable bully and I would hate anythjng to happen as a result of this situation that some other innocent person would end up feeling guilty about. His crying yesterday was absolutely because he’s angry and can see how much of a disaster their life really is. His whole self-worth is tied up in vlogging and the instantaneous gratification it gives him. That is very sad and very worrying. He won’t get any sympathy from his bimbo wife. If it goes wrong, she’ll blame it all on him.
As much as I loathe Tyson and I really do loathe him, I am also aware that there is a real person and a real family behind this mess and I worry about the impact this might have.
Tyson, if by any chance you read this. For heavens sake waken up and realise what’s at stake here! Get yourself some help - physical, emotional, financial - and get your house in order. Your life is in a downward spiral and you all need to do do something about it now before it’s too late. Come clean and admit the mess your lives are and actually try to put it right and maybe people will gain some respect for you!
Sorry that’s a bit of a ramble but I felt the need to say it.
What is he wearing in that photo of them? He's at a play and wearing a hoodie? And when is it with him and pushing the sleeves up?
I'm being petty, while other people are making salient, eloquent points. Haven't had my tea yet...
She's not smiling. She's grimacing. Get more botox and fillers, girl. You can look like Loni.
She looks dead in her eyes.
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MervelllaB wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:38 am
LGM has set up a patreon for Gardner videos - I think. I don’t really understand Patreon.
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It means she is trying to make more money off of her views.... yet another person that is trying to make money off of the girls.
I’m not sure she is trying to make money off the girls. I think she’s more concerned with how they are trying to throw their weight around and dictate what people can and cannot say.
MervelllaB wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:38 am
LGM has set up a patreon for Gardner videos - I think. I don’t really understand Patreon.
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It means she is trying to make more money off of her views.... yet another person that is trying to make money off of the girls.
No I don't see it that way. If the gardners hadn't thrown around their hissy fits and just were mature about it then I feel LGM wouldn't have done a patreon. Just as much as anyone has the right to be on YouTube, so does LGM and she has stayed within the YT guidelines. The gardners don't know how to have mature discussions but rather they just throw temper tantrums like, well.... children.
MervelllaB wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:38 am
LGM has set up a patreon for Gardner videos - I think. I don’t really understand Patreon.
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It means she is trying to make more money off of her views.... yet another person that is trying to make money off of the girls.
I’m not sure she is trying to make money off the girls. I think she’s more concerned with how they are trying to throw their weight around and dictate what people can and cannot say.
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I usually just follow along and read here because I don’t have time to always keep up, So I may not have all the information- but to me it looks like she is trying to make a quick buck and is changing platforms before the new rules on January 1st.
I have been following this site for almost a year and I have always appreciated how most people’s genuine interest seems to be in protecting the girls and we all seem to have a major issue with the parents taking advantage of them. This just feels like another person out there taking advantage of them, for money and views.
In my opinion If it’s wrong, it’s wrong - it doesn’t matter who is posting it- wrong for the parents and wrong for anyone else.
SassySassenach wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:04 am
Looks like “fan mail” is back.... it’s from one of the edit girls. I won’t share the IG post, because it leaves her full address visible, bet Bison didn’t even give a thought about that. It’s blurry, but could be figured out. Not a care for anyone else.
This video was posted only on the edit girls IG stories, not Bison’s.... soooo I guess he’s still privately messaging these girls. (I can only assume underage girls would be this fanatical with creating pictures and videos of people they don’t even know).
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Just seen this on Instagram and the girl lives a few towns away from me! Plus after some social media slouthing have discovered what looks like a pre teen girl Will they ever learn!
2txsoccerkids wrote:
It means she is trying to make more money off of her views.... yet another person that is trying to make money off of the girls.
I’m not sure she is trying to make money off the girls. I think she’s more concerned with how they are trying to throw their weight around and dictate what people can and cannot say.
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I usually just follow along and read here because I don’t have time to always keep up, So I may not have all the information- but to me it looks like she is trying to make a quick buck and is changing platforms before the new rules on January 1st.
I have been following this site for almost a year and I have always appreciated how most people’s genuine interest seems to be in protecting the girls and we all seem to have a major issue with the parents taking advantage of them. This just feels like another person out there taking advantage of them, for money and views.
In my opinion If it’s wrong, it’s wrong - it doesn’t matter who is posting it- wrong for the parents and wrong for anyone else.
The new YouTube guidelines wouldn’t require LGM to change platforms. She doesn’t make content that is geared towards children. Her content is very much aimed at adult viewers.
She has made 2 videos about the Gardners, which were fair and completely within the guidelines. As far as I understand she looked at the Gardners because someone suggested it. She’s only a small YouTuber. She’s not a huge threat to them. Their actions are rather disproportionate, if you ask me.
but that was my reaction
Will they ever learn!
