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I am by no means an expert on this family as I just started watching them. I saw the gigantic bald spot on the back of Omega's head in the video where Cleo botched the shaving. My son had a mohawk at that age. She did it incorrectly. There are a variety of reasons the bald spot could happen, including hormonal imbalance. However, I saw a vlog claiming alleged malnutrition for these kids. I know next to nothing about proper veganism other than it takes considerable planning to provide proper nutrition in that manner. Is Omega's bald spot due to malnutrition, even though he is breast feeding?

As far as Veganism for kids, I'm skeptical that it is a good idea. Humans evolved as omnivores, and so that is generally what works best for our bodies. Does this woman truly plan vegan meals adequate for growing children? For some reason, I doubt it. The skeptical part of me thinks they claim veganism to save money on food and control their kids. Veganism doesn't make them heroes. In my eyes, it makes then asshole parents. My 2 cents.

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I showed the kids to my partner and asked hm , wht he thought. He said in his opinion they looked tired and unhealthy with their sunken eyes, dark circles around orbits and thin hair. they also looked very pale and too thin. He thouht they must have been lacking some nutrients ( I did not tell him they were vegan) So... it is obvious to anyone, but not to TT.
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Anne Jay wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:41 am I am by no means an expert on this family as I just started watching them. I saw the gigantic bald spot on the back of Omega's head in the video where Cleo botched the shaving. My son had a mohawk at that age. She did it incorrectly. There are a variety of reasons the bald spot could happen, including hormonal imbalance. However, I saw a vlog claiming alleged malnutrition for these kids. I know next to nothing about proper veganism other than it takes considerable planning to provide proper nutrition in that manner. Is Omega's bald spot due to malnutrition, even though he is breast feeding?

As far as Veganism for kids, I'm skeptical that it is a good idea. Humans evolved as omnivores, and so that is generally what works best for our bodies. Does this woman truly plan vegan meals adequate for growing children? For some reason, I doubt it. The skeptical part of me thinks they claim veganism to save money on food and control their kids. Veganism doesn't make them heroes. In my eyes, it makes then asshole parents. My 2 cents.

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I think she promotes vegan this vegan that as a USP for her channel. As well as the large family, so called minimalist living, all wear white t shirt schtick. It's all to get views. Plus the so called homeschooling, which is pretty poor otherwise she would be promoting that with all the books she uses. Using workbooks does not promote your child's education. That's why they really aren't as clever as she makes out. Yes, they can play musical instruments. But they are not gifted at it. It's all show for making money but no substance. Anyone with a brain cell watching her so called organised curriculum can see its bs. Those kids lead such an isolated life in many ways.
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Taina has lied so much about her kids ages that she now can't remember how old they are.
They can't say ghost? It's a "person under a blanket"?
Omega's presents were pitiful. Crumpled paper scrunched over them, no tape. He gets 4 small animals while Cleo gets the latest and bestest iphone and a Baby Born. Ok then.
Why don't they eat tofu?

"ground cloves" is difficult to say? It really isn't.
Why so much food for one day? I know there are 10 of them, but there are 5 of us and we would need about a hundredth of that food to feed us 3 meals and snacks for one day.
Taina just watches her kids do all the unloading and packing.
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JerricaBenton wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:35 am Taina has lied so much about her kids ages that she now can't remember how old they are.
They can't say ghost? It's a "person under a blanket"?
Omega's presents were pitiful. Crumpled paper scrunched over them, no tape. He gets 4 small animals while Cleo gets the latest and bestest iphone and a Baby Born. Ok then.
Why don't they eat tofu?

"ground cloves" is difficult to say? It really isn't.
Why so much food for one day? I know there are 10 of them, but there are 5 of us and we would need about a hundredth of that food to feed us 3 meals and snacks for one day.
Taina just watches her kids do all the unloading and packing.
Jerrica, i thought that was soooo strange! It was so obvious the handstamp was a cartoon ghost,but Cleo looked so uncomfortable that i did wonder...are they just not allowed to say the word ghost?!
Oms pressys..i thought it was ok he just got the animals..he was delighted with them,he’s only two.
it was easy for him to open them himself, them being only roughly wrapped.
Cleo is a young adult and does so much to help the family,she deserves a decent gift..(tho whatT put her thru to get said phone was ridiculous..)and the baby born an odd choice for a girl of twenty.

Plus dont forget!these kids all get 5 days of various bday treats ...and also Om got the play area treat and a party,which,to me, seemed far too lavish for a 2yr old....what can she find that will be special when he's twelve, if he’s already had so many special bday treats?
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JerricaBenton wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:35 am Taina has lied so much about her kids ages that she now can't remember how old they are.
They can't say ghost? It's a "person under a blanket"?
Omega's presents were pitiful. Crumpled paper scrunched over them, no tape. He gets 4 small animals while Cleo gets the latest and bestest iphone and a Baby Born. Ok then.
Why don't they eat tofu?

"ground cloves" is difficult to say? It really isn't.
Why so much food for one day? I know there are 10 of them, but there are 5 of us and we would need about a hundredth of that food to feed us 3 meals and snacks for one day.
Taina just watches her kids do all the unloading and packing.
Hells bells! Ive only watched the first little bit of this,but i agree,Jerrica,why the crazy amounts of food?? I am already exhausted and cant bear to watch them load any more teetering boxes of food into their trollies ..plus it's painful to see Shakey look up so eagerly at mum for attention and approval.
Very convenient Taina to just hold a camera while your kids are working like trojans to fill the trolleys,and no doubt they will unload and reload at checkout/ load and unload the car.
Ps and so many boxes of fruit....why not get fresh juicy fruit rather than a ton of dried slices of fruit.x
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JerricaBenton wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:35 am Taina has lied so much about her kids ages that she now can't remember how old they are.
They can't say ghost? It's a "person under a blanket"?
Omega's presents were pitiful. Crumpled paper scrunched over them, no tape. He gets 4 small animals while Cleo gets the latest and bestest iphone and a Baby Born. Ok then.
Why don't they eat tofu?

"ground cloves" is difficult to say? It really isn't.
Why so much food for one day? I know there are 10 of them, but there are 5 of us and we would need about a hundredth of that food to feed us 3 meals and snacks for one day.
Taina just watches her kids do all the unloading and packing.
Possibly they don't believe in the supernatural because of their religious beliefs. I taught JW kids who couldn't get involved in lessons if we were reading ghost stories.
Who knows how well some of those kids can read. I noticed in one vlog with Neph collecting her presents around a play area, she couldn't read the names of the animals to look for and at 5 she should have if she had been taught to read properly.
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Dru55 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 7:30 am
JerricaBenton wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:35 am Taina has lied so much about her kids ages that she now can't remember how old they are.
They can't say ghost? It's a "person under a blanket"?
Omega's presents were pitiful. Crumpled paper scrunched over them, no tape. He gets 4 small animals while Cleo gets the latest and bestest iphone and a Baby Born. Ok then.
Why don't they eat tofu?

"ground cloves" is difficult to say? It really isn't.
Why so much food for one day? I know there are 10 of them, but there are 5 of us and we would need about a hundredth of that food to feed us 3 meals and snacks for one day.
Taina just watches her kids do all the unloading and packing.
Possibly they don't believe in the supernatural because of their religious beliefs. I taught JW kids who couldn't get involved in lessons if we were reading ghost stories.
Who knows how well some of those kids can read. I noticed in one vlog with Neph collecting her presents around a play area, she couldn't read the names of the animals to look for and at 5 she should have if she had been taught to read properly.
I recall that Dr...if i remember rightly,KJ did slightly better than Nef reading the animals names
Warning...Don't enrol yr kids at The Taina LT Academy of Excellence! 😄😄
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And ive just remembered..that tiny kitchen? Where will all the food be stored?
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honeybeex wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:15 am
Dragonmom wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:29 pm
Dru55 wrote: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:13 pm I watched more bits of the Cleo vlog again. She comes across as very immature for a 20 year old. ( she isn't yet til Feb) so even at 19, she is immature. I know very few 19/20 year old who would go through that crap with the box. I have always gotten the feeling they are hiding from the public. You never know where they are, what is the truth and why she keeps on lying about stuff. Those kids are not geniuses, musically or academically. It is all too weird
How do we know the website with the Feb. 27th birth date is correct? They just released a second birthday video where Cleo says she is 20. Her Instagram says she is 20. I know they lie all the time, but I can't find anything released by them in the past where they gave her birth month, only the year. It seems really out there to push her birthday up by two months and say she is older than she is when they are always saying the other kids are younger than they really are!
EXACTLY! I tried to say this earlier. Anyone can change famous birthdays and the information on it is not often correct! Omega looks Very young in her 18th birthday video, only a month or so old, and as someone else here has said there were xmas decorations up in it. I'm not one to defend the LT's often, but I actually don't think they are lying about this. It's just Cleo's 18th birthday post was late!
I was watching some of Leonardo's old vlogs out of boredom and even his vlog of her birthday is uploaded in February. But there is most definitely still Christmas trees up on the cruise ship AND at the skating rink.
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In one of her last vlogs, one Cleo is receiving presents for her birthday, she gets a notebook with drawings from all her siblings. We can see all the ages, and the date they were drawn.
Jer: 17y, Ro: 15y, D'A: 12y, Sh: 9y, Nef: 5y 4m KJ: 4y 1 m, Aph: 3y 1m, Om: 2y 1m.
Date: 20.12.2019 (exactly the date the new film of Star Wars was released!)
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There’s just far too much craziness to comment on. This is all I have.

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Anne Jay wrote:I am by no means an expert on this family as I just started watching them. I saw the gigantic bald spot on the back of Omega's head in the video where Cleo botched the shaving. My son had a mohawk at that age. She did it incorrectly. There are a variety of reasons the bald spot could happen, including hormonal imbalance. However, I saw a vlog claiming alleged malnutrition for these kids. I know next to nothing about proper veganism other than it takes considerable planning to provide proper nutrition in that manner. Is Omega's bald spot due to malnutrition, even though he is breast feeding?

As far as Veganism for kids, I'm skeptical that it is a good idea. Humans evolved as omnivores, and so that is generally what works best for our bodies. Does this woman truly plan vegan meals adequate for growing children? For some reason, I doubt it. The skeptical part of me thinks they claim veganism to save money on food and control their kids. Veganism doesn't make them heroes. In my eyes, it makes then asshole parents. My 2 cents.

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There is nothing wrong with being vegan as a child, quite the opposite.
However, it's important that the vegan diet is balanced, as any type of diet should be.

There are too many obese children in the world, in many cases because their diet consists of fast food but, there is not all this controversy as for veganism.
Just remember that, in proportion, more diseases develop due to meat consumption and for obesity than veganism.
Within a few years, we will be immune to the flu vaccine because meat producers administer the same vaccine to animals to avoid significant economic losses. The researchers are afraid of not having time to find an alternative to the vaccine.
I'm not vegan but I don't eat meat because I have had health problems for years and have found that it was due to the consumption of meat, even if I did not eat much of it.
Doctors have told me that they have seen a significant increase in illnessess like mine in recent years.
I never hear people say they are skeptical that it is a good idea for kids to eat fast food several times a week.

Taina is doing it wrong, no doubt but please don't lump everybody together.



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Anyone know why TT made Shakey cover up some of the items in the shopping video...?? seems strange to me. The is no way they need that much food even if there is 10 of them, they had a lot of crisps and salted peanuts and things, I wonder if they are still not eating properly? Though tbh, at least they have enough food to eat now as opposed to being starved to death in the motorhome.
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I figured out where in Finland they are staying based on the shopping video and they are over 3 hour drive away from where Leo lives so let’s hope that is the reason they haven’t shown him in the vlogs.


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Well- when my brother was four months old my mother gave him a bite of banana baby food and he said “ I like it” plain as day. Shocked , we all stopped and listened as she gave him another bite and he said it again. Then he didn’t talk again til he was a year and a half and he’s honestly not the brightest crayon in the box either. So I don’t necessarily disbelieve Taina on Omega saying something at that age.

I’ve wondered as well if they are jehovahs witnesses? They don’t celebrate Christmas or talk about spirits. Although they do celebrate birthdays which most jehovah witnesses don’t .

I think they crumpled the wrapping paper on omegas presents to make them look pirate-ish. Like rocks maybe?
Although just those four little animals was a bit sad.

There might be lots of reasons kJ is sleeping with Cleo . Maybe they’re scared he’ll fall out of the loft or something. A trundle bed isn’t the worst place to sleep when you’re four. But OMG you guys are soo right about his poor sunken in eyes. Anemia and malnutrition.

If I was Cleo I’d be in the granny house, weather my mother liked it or not.

The sandwhich cake looked so good.
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They celebrate birthdays and new years so no, my understanding is they were Pentecostal but do their own thing rather than following a specific church
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I have a few Pentecostal friends and they all celebrate christmas :/

Unless it's just a Taina thing to not celebrate it.
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Youngiia wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:34 pm I have a few Pentecostal friends and they all celebrate christmas :/

Unless it's just a Taina thing to not celebrate it.
Like I said they are now doing their own thing, gone rogue so to speak. Perhaps, that difference in belief may have contributed to their decision to not affiliate themselves with the Pentecostal church anymore
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