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meee meee wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:42 pm TT said several times throughout the latest video that aph and kj are the same age but not twins. As if that is an outstanding achievement. First of all they are not the same age, especially not when they're this young and take big leaps in their development. A child that's almost four years old and a child that just turned three are not the same age.
Also why does she think this same age thing is so special and outstanding that she had to keep mentioning it. Yes Taina you popped out two baby's in a relatively short time periode, well done, but so do a ton of other people, you're not special because of that.

It looked like aph hated her chiapudding, also why the hell would you give a three year old such a big bowl?
The annoying thing is It is the same video as last year! We didn't care then that they were not twins, and we do not care now! They most certainly are not the same age, I agree, both are at completely different developmental stages. Personally, I did like the video, because KJ and Aph are my favourites, they are both very loving toward each other, and both very much overlooked by the rest of the family. They are both such sweet children, and even though people claim Aph is "naughty and mis behaves" I personally don't see it, I see a young girl who has had a lack of attention, and wants to be able to do as she likes. She is very strong willed for a 3 year old, and certainly hates taina's ridiculous shenanigans! Very wise beyond her years.
KJ is so sweet and has always been overlooked and pushed out which is heart breaking, I hope one day he finds a way to escape as an teenager, or realises that even though his family don't truly appreciate him, he is a wonderful person. Nef and Om have always had more attention, and their misbehaviour is often terrible. Especially Om, he's a very demanding and babied child, and at 2 he shouldn't be treated as if he is un aware he is misbehaving, he knows, or should know when he crosses the line. I know its normal for kids to misbehave, but not to the extent, he does and gets away with it.
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retiredrn70 wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:16 pm (...)Image the shock of Aph and Neph when they are out in the world and find NOBODY recognizes them as royalty.I think all of the members of this forum love love love little King (We love him !! We just love him! We really do!!!)and would like to take him home. I know I would. He reminds me of my youngest who is 46 now and still sweet as can be.
Lol, all of this reminds me of Taina's old Internet alter ego which is the Liccardo-Tovoila Kingdom.

(BTW am I the only one who thinks that Cleo and Jers look like twins? :D)

Her first Instagram name was "iamtainaltk" and she made and account with iam'name'ltk for each of her kids back in 2016...


I don't understand finnish but I guess that her child band was also called Liccardo Tovila Kingdom :D


So definitely some weird monarchy obsession is going on there..
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I also digged into Cleo's twitter account and found some interesting tweets:


Wow, they haven't even lived three full years in that house.. I think these kids have no idea what stability is (except being for 24/7 around each other)... Not surprised at all that they have no friends except from family members... And not surprised that they have huge problems to become independent from T.

(don't click the video if you're afraid of spiders)

So let's see if Leo's still allowed to come with them.. But it seems like T planned to go back to Australia since more than two years ago..
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Youngiia wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:54 pm I hate how she forces aphrodite into all the princess stuff. I wonder if they asked her at all what she wanted.... omega didnt seem to like his pirate stuff.

Also 11 hours at a place like hoplop.... so exhausting.

I had trouble with this website around christmas but its working working again now.
They were at hoplop for 11 hours because it opens from 9 to 20 (it is on the webpage, easy!). I think they had lunch and dinner, all day inside that place!
I don't understand why so much princess stuff...not sure she wants to be a princess, or the type of princess she was dressed. In fact, she didn't want to have the "crown" on...but she has it most of the video.
Quite boring...all the lasts videos.
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Hariett wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:02 am
retiredrn70 wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:16 pm (...)Image the shock of Aph and Neph when they are out in the world and find NOBODY recognizes them as royalty.I think all of the members of this forum love love love little King (We love him !! We just love him! We really do!!!)and would like to take him home. I know I would. He reminds me of my youngest who is 46 now and still sweet as can be.
Lol, all of this reminds me of Taina's old Internet alter ego which is the Liccardo-Tovoila Kingdom.

(BTW am I the only one who thinks that Cleo and Jers look like twins? :D)

Her first Instagram name was "iamtainaltk" and she made and account with iam'name'ltk for each of her kids back in 2016...


I don't understand finnish but I guess that her child band was also called Liccardo Tovila Kingdom :D


So definitely some weird monarchy obsession is going on there..
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I also digged into Cleo's twitter account and found some interesting tweets:


Wow, they haven't even lived three full years in that house.. I think these kids have no idea what stability is (except being for 24/7 around each other)... Not surprised at all that they have no friends except from family members... And not surprised that they have huge problems to become independent from T.

(don't click the video if you're afraid of spiders)

So let's see if Leo's still allowed to come with them.. But it seems like T planned to go back to Australia since more than two years ago..


About the house. There was a video on leonardos channel where he visits their old house. It looks just like your average house, nothing fancy, not all white, just plain, simple and normal. Although it probably was a bit small for the amount of children they had, even back then. I seem to remember him saying that the children used to sleep in one room.
I unfortunately can't find the footage, I searched his whole channel, but I couldn't find it. Maybe he had to delete it, because it doesn't fit with the perfect facade TT tries (and fails) to present.
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To clear up the confusion everyone is questioning their last name related to Jenna’s parent’s. The Taina Hurd is actually under the legal last name of “Licciardo-Smith” not Toivola... That is a stage name... Aside from that idk anything else. I just looked up Paul’s adoption stuff and found their actual last name. This was when they were first appearing online I thought everyone was aware that wasn’t a real name...


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Herbert-Sherbert2019 wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:40 pm
JerricaBenton wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:52 am Aphrodite got her party at the exact same day as Omega, at the same place. They even had the exact same food in the party room. Shame they couldn't even get a separate day? I wonder if they even had a gap of time between eating the same food.

Taina's baby voice was exceptionally annoying in this video.

Aph got some baby born clothes and everyone did the weird fake "whoooooaaaaa" like it was some amazing present.

Wonder if KJ's party is going to be tacked at the end of these? He is so sweet.

Bit dangerous for Omega to go through that spiderweb thing with a gopro attached to him!!!

T was actually giving both little boys a nice hug then she literally shoved KJ away to breast feed Omega :(

Sounds like Omega would have liked a bunch of flowers too.
That voice did it for me today,i’m not gonna waste time listening to it any more.

Have had such a good time with all of you,but I’m all Taina’d out now,and I don’t want to spend any more time on the family’s shenanigans
I wont miss them really. Well,maybe the kids a bit...but I WILL miss all of you here!
All the very best to you for a groovy 2020! 💕💕💕💕💕 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX love from Herby Sherby! XXXXXXXX
Herby, PLEASE don’t go, you can still stick around here without watching TT and get the gist of the latest train wreck. I always enjoy your comments, some if which are really funny.😂 BTW, I’m thinking of a trip to the U.K. in the spring. I need to make a pilgrimage to a certain grave site.

Rather than trying to quote everyone, I think all the comments hit the nail on the head and I couldn’t agree more with them.

Aph has always been my favorite and she and KJ are beyond sweet together, LOVE them both.❤️ Wonder where the rest of the herd was when they were filmed? It was so nice to see them playing together without a screeching Omega or Shaky and Nef trying to hog the spotlight. Even though they are not really the same age, there seems to be a special bond between them. Was Aph’s outfit from Disney when they were dressed as princesses? Will KJ be dressed in his Bud Lightyears outfit? Doubtful.
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Ashley18032 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:11 am To clear up the confusion everyone is questioning their last name related to Jenna’s parent’s. The Taina Hurd is actually under the legal last name of “Licciardo-Smith” not Toivola... That is a stage name... Aside from that idk anything else. I just looked up Paul’s adoption stuff and found their actual last name. This was when they were first appearing online I thought everyone was aware that wasn’t a real name...


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Sorry, no offense, but you are the one confused. You see, Its true that Pauls last name was Licciardo-Smith (was Smith but Licciardo was added after being adopted by Marie Licciardo) so technically that was the families last name (from the time T and Paul married until last year)... however that does NOT change the fact that Tainas maiden name was Toivola. Toivola is her family's name, thats why she likes it to be included. You are correct in that they used Licciardo-Toivola as a stage name until recently when it was legally changed to Licciardo-Toivola (as you can see by looking up the Finnish registry). Maybe, what you assumed is ehat T hopes, that people will not realize she is a Toivola by birth and therefore they wont make the connection between her and Jennas parents
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meee meee wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:42 pm TT said several times throughout the latest video that aph and kj are the same age but not twins. As if that is an outstanding achievement. First of all they are not the same age, especially not when they're this young and take big leaps in their development. A child that's almost four years old and a child that just turned three are not the same age.
Also why does she think this same age thing is so special and outstanding that she had to keep mentioning it. Yes Taina you popped out two baby's in a relatively short time periode, well done, but so do a ton of other people, you're not special because of that.

It looked like aph hated her chiapudding, also why the hell would you give a three year old such a big bowl?
Chia pudding is actually quite nutritious but a learned taste. No Aph did not seem to like the pudding. Poor kid! She was good and sort of pretended though not very well.King is one of those kids who eats EVERYTHING and is always hungry--as most boys are. Yes great deal of difference in development. I guess TT just thinks she can fool people. Lives in her own crazy world. I bet KJ ended up eating Aphs pudding. On one video Jez said KJ was on his 3rd bowl of porridge!!!! Tornado Omega sure does resent Aphs princess status. And he thought HE was the boss baby. So funny. At only 2 and already pissed off at the favoritism though he gets more attention than any of them. TTs breastfeeding doesnt impress me. I had children during the La Leche era!!! Though I didnt really hold to their doctrines I did breast feed all 3 of my kids but not in the middle of the grocery store or a bouncy park and certainly not until they could stamp their little feed and demand boobies. Now if she were taking care of all of them by herself I would be impressed but isnt- far from it.
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Youngiia wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:54 pm I hate how she forces aphrodite into all the princess stuff. I wonder if they asked her at all what she wanted.... omega didnt seem to like his pirate stuff.

Also 11 hours at a place like hoplop.... so exhausting.

I had trouble with this website around christmas but its working working again now.
Dru55 wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:32 am Just wasted 15 minutes of my life on aph birthday vlog. However, She is my favourite. So cute but also I think detached from her family, her own choice. Came across as very bemused and a bit bored some times. She is quite the individual and marches to the beat of her own drum. I think she will be a rebel when she is older. They spent 11 hours there!! Really??? That is far too long. Hey ho.
meee meee wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:42 pm TT said several times throughout the latest video that aph and kj are the same age but not twins. As if that is an outstanding achievement. First of all they are not the same age, especially not when they're this young and take big leaps in their development. A child that's almost four years old and a child that just turned three are not the same age.
Also why does she think this same age thing is so special and outstanding that she had to keep mentioning it. Yes Taina you popped out two baby's in a relatively short time periode, well done, but so do a ton of other people, you're not special because of that.

It looked like aph hated her chiapudding, also why the hell would you give a three year old such a big bowl?
Chia pudding is actually quite nutritious but a learned taste. No Aph did not seem to like the pudding. Poor kid! She was good and sort of pretended though not very well.King is one of those kids who eats EVERYTHING and is always hungry--as most boys are. Yes great deal of difference in development. I guess TT just thinks she can fool people. Lives in her own crazy world. I bet KJ ended up eating Aphs pudding. On one video Jez said KJ was on his 3rd bowl of porridge!!!! Tornado Omega sure does resent Aphs princess status. And he thought HE was the boss baby. So funny. At only 2 and already pissed off at the favoritism though he gets more attention than any of them. TTs breastfeeding doesnt impress me. I had children during the La Leche era!!! Though I didnt really hold to their doctrines I did breast feed all 3 of my kids but not in the middle of the grocery store or a bouncy park and certainly not until they could stamp their little feed and demand boobies. Now if she were taking care of all of them by herself I would be impressed but isnt- far from it. Check out the first videos where Omega came home and Aph was only a little over one. She was naughty and mom did nothing. And at Omegas first birthday she was not good either and again not disciplined. Clearly she was not happy she had lost her baby status. That was mean of TT to tell her she was no longer the baby. She often took food off Omegas plate. So- yes she was sometimes naughty but as time has passed she is more and more into herself bonding quite well with KJ. I am glad they have each other. Is it just me or has Nef become less of a fixture in the videos and TTs world. Gosh this kind of crap is confusing to kids. They grow up wondering why they werent good enough. Aph is a strong kid tho and I think she will just blow it all off. She is her own person anyway but I do feel for Nef. KJ is fine too. He is too sweet to carry a grudge or be mad about much.
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It's very telling in that last video that Aph says KJ "is being bad" because he wasn't smiling for the camera. I think that is what she must say to them, treat them as bad kids when they don't perform for the camera. So sad.
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I wished I had started keeping track of every time TT had a "house idea" for the house they are building once they get to Australia. I didn't realize how much she says it until recently. So far, I remember her wanting a "big Lego room" and now a padded soccer room. Will they have bedrooms in this new house or will all the kids be shoved in one room again? (Not Cleo tho bc she's special) Anyone else notice when she notes her "house ideas"?
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I have a serious question for the group! What are your thoughts on how this weird always perform, always expose your most private moments with total strangers; always strip away any privacy or normalcy and just follow a creepy weird facade/ruse/ideal that comes to Taina’s sick mind? Do you think they will ever have a chance to be idk... Too tired or too sick to perform today... These kid’s aren’t being kept up with government standards for child actors or anything... They’re used and abused for entertainment from the time Taina creepily wakes them up for us to see to the time they pass out even if that’s on the wet, cold, grass in some weird place. It’s such a bizarre construct to me that it is legal to treat your kid’s like show ponies and they have NO rights to breaks! NO rights to privacy! NO real rights at all to their real extortion that is going on for Taina’s self gain, both monetarily and her deathly need for admiration from total strangers. Do you think in our lifetime they will make laws or rules regarding this type of gross violation of privacy of children too young to decide if that’s what they would like for themselves? Should it be legal to potentially damage their ability to obtain jobs or normal adulthood in the future. Their names alone make me think I would throw their resume away because they sound fake... Alias-like. They have their every move exploited. Makes me really question if I should continue watching enabling this. So sad to me! (Then again they are taught how to grift and use the guise of religion or government assistance to never have to actually work! Sick!)


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Anyone feel gutted for KJ. It's his Birthday and it's all about Omega. I had a little spark of happiness for him when Taina chased King James and then filming was all over Omega. Kids paid more attention to Omega and just ignored KJ.
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Ashley18032 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:41 pm I have a serious question for the group! What are your thoughts on how this weird always perform, always expose your most private moments with total strangers; always strip away any privacy or normalcy and just follow a creepy weird facade/ruse/ideal that comes to Taina’s sick mind? Do you think they will ever have a chance to be idk... Too tired or too sick to perform today... These kid’s aren’t being kept up with government standards for child actors or anything... They’re used and abused for entertainment from the time Taina creepily wakes them up for us to see to the time they pass out even if that’s on the wet, cold, grass in some weird place. It’s such a bizarre construct to me that it is legal to treat your kid’s like show ponies and they have NO rights to breaks! NO rights to privacy! NO real rights at all to their real extortion that is going on for Taina’s self gain, both monetarily and her deathly need for admiration from total strangers. Do you think in our lifetime they will make laws or rules regarding this type of gross violation of privacy of children too young to decide if that’s what they would like for themselves? Should it be legal to potentially damage their ability to obtain jobs or normal adulthood in the future. Their names alone make me think I would throw their resume away because they sound fake... Alias-like. They have their every move exploited. Makes me really question if I should continue watching enabling this. So sad to me! (Then again they are taught how to grift and use the guise of religion or government assistance to never have to actually work! Sick!)


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I was thinking that too. The older ones should be able to say no. Leave me alone. But if this is their only source of income, TT may use that to make them take part. She really should take time out and rethink their life. It must be exhausting to go around with a camera all the time. And the kids all look bored really.
I am guessing she doesn't have many skills for employment and unless the older ones stay and home and look after the kids she can't go out to work. Cleo is probably unemployable and Jers too. She claims they are qualified as hairdressers or whatever, but I wouldn't let cleo near dolls hair let alone human. God knows how they will fare out in Australia. As for subs, they go up by 1k practically daily. She keeps buying them.
I have seen other vloggers who have the intelligence to make a good job of what they do. She doesn't have those skills to make in vlogs.
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CoffeeaddictMac wrote:Anyone feel gutted for KJ. It's his Birthday and it's all about Omega. I had a little spark of happiness for him when Taina chased King James and then filming was all over Omega. Kids paid more attention to Omega and just ignored KJ.
It was all about Omega in Aphrodites bday vid too.... he also just HAD to be around, and try to destroy KJs cake. Both KJ and Aph kept their eyes on Omega around their cakes and basically had to guard it and push him away, since no adult jumped in to move him. I can really see the annoyance on their faces around him.

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Omega is such an annoying kid in these videos.

I dont like how when they try to feature KJ or Aph he is always there. And tries to blow out their cakes.... it's almost like that episode of south park where cartman's mum had to give him a present every time the birthday kid got one hahaha.

But he is such a pushy spoiled little thing it's too hard to like him.

I really hope that behind the camera there was less omega focus.......
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Ashley18032 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:41 pm I have a serious question for the group! What are your thoughts on how this weird always perform, always expose your most private moments with total strangers; always strip away any privacy or normalcy and just follow a creepy weird facade/ruse/ideal that comes to Taina’s sick mind? Do you think they will ever have a chance to be idk... Too tired or too sick to perform today... These kid’s aren’t being kept up with government standards for child actors or anything... They’re used and abused for entertainment from the time Taina creepily wakes them up for us to see to the time they pass out even if that’s on the wet, cold, grass in some weird place. It’s such a bizarre construct to me that it is legal to treat your kid’s like show ponies and they have NO rights to breaks! NO rights to privacy! NO real rights at all to their real extortion that is going on for Taina’s self gain, both monetarily and her deathly need for admiration from total strangers. Do you think in our lifetime they will make laws or rules regarding this type of gross violation of privacy of children too young to decide if that’s what they would like for themselves? Should it be legal to potentially damage their ability to obtain jobs or normal adulthood in the future. Their names alone make me think I would throw their resume away because they sound fake... Alias-like. They have their every move exploited. Makes me really question if I should continue watching enabling this. So sad to me! (Then again they are taught how to grift and use the guise of religion or government assistance to never have to actually work! Sick!)


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I personally would never parade my children online like this. They are too young to understand what it really means for them. I also think always having to perform is detrimental to them. But that's my speculation based on what I see in my job (high school teacher).

I think when people are sick they just dont film and then those are the days they cover up with those videos about 1 day trip that she uploads over a few days. Or the random breaks we get.

Eventually I think there will be laws against this.... but whi knows how long they will take.

It's true that a lot of employers wont take them seriously because of their names.

Taina seems to make a lot of decisions for her kids without their input. Like the motorhome trip, minimalism, putting their whole lives on YouTube, religion, what content can be in the books they read, home schooling.

I also dont think kids should be immediately indoctrinated into their parents religion either. I think they should be left a bit more free than she has them and then let them make the choice themselves as an adult. That will be far more meaningful to them.

Taina has taken a lot of choice away from her kids. In my experience that tends to lead to kids who cant make their own decisions and anxiety. But who knows, her kids could be the lucky few percent that aren't harmed by this.

Another thing, teenagers need to be around other teenagers to learn properly how to fit in and get along with others. I went to a training course last year about social anxiety in kids and the psychologist said once a kid turns 14 -15 their brains says "get into the group and breed" and that kids stop relying on their nuclear family group and start to build relationships with friends and these become more important than family ones. (Obviously this is on average but as a teen our friends and socialisation to take up a huge focus for humans).

Her kids dont seem to have the opportunity to build deep and meaningful relationships outside of their family. I'm curious as to the impact this will have on all of them.
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Sorry for double posting, but here is my full post, ignore the one above I have wasn't finished and can't delete it now.. This forum sucks sometimes 😅
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Ashley18032 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:11 am To clear up the confusion everyone is questioning their last name related to Jenna’s parent’s. The Taina Hurd is actually under the legal last name of “Licciardo-Smith” not Toivola... That is a stage name... Aside from that idk anything else. I just looked up Paul’s adoption stuff and found their actual last name. This was when they were first appearing online I thought everyone was aware that wasn’t a real name...


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Sorry, no offense, but you are the one confused. You see, Its true that Pauls last name was Licciardo-Smith (was Smith but Licciardo was added after being adopted by Marie Licciardo) so technically that was the families last name (from the time T and Paul married until last year)... however that does NOT change the fact that Tainas maiden name was Toivola. Toivola is her family's name, thats why she likes it to be included. You are correct in that they used Licciardo-Toivola as a stage name until recently when it was legally changed to Licciardo-Toivola (as you can see by looking up the Finnish registry). Maybe, what you assumed is ehat T hopes, that people will not realize she is a Toivola by birth and therefore they wont make the connection between her and Jennas parents
Ok girls, whatever their real last name might be, I truly don't believe that Leo's and Jenna's parents are relatives! Someone from Finland mentioned before that Toivola is a quite common family name there, just like Miller or Smith in English speaking countries.. And where do you know from what Jenna's parents last names are?
They met each other on a church's youth night (when she was 14 and he 16) and started texting later. They talk about it in their love story Video:


Jenna lived with her mother and stepfather at that time. There is also a Video on Leo's channel where he introduces her mother and stepfather. They seem like nice and decent people. Her mother mentions the church as one of the most important things in her life and that she doesn't like the idea so much that Jenna plans to emigrate to Australia.
Another interesting thing about the video above is that Leo tells us he wasn't allowed to meet one to one with girls at that time (skip to minute 2:10!) for his own safety.. Well not surprised at all that Cleo's treated like a princess in a cage..
But Leo clearly found his wife by himself and later told Taina about that girl.
Sorry but I can't find any signs of being relatives or anything like that..

And now all that church stuff, I thought they made clear they don't like churches, but a few years ago Leo seemed to participate in a lot church activities..
I think their true believes will stay with them and I have no problem with that. Taina's child upbringing examples are bad enough, I don't need religious education efforts by her 😂


King James birthday presents comparing to the other little ones are just sad 😢 He turns 4, an age where you actually start to understand what a birthday is and he got the same presents as Omega. Four toy animals, two of them being chickens... Really T? Your little boy loves Monster Trucks, dangerous animals and maybe reading and books (at least more than Nef haha)..
I would have had so many nice (and not expensive) ideas for him, but all Taina's giving him to feel special that day is an ugly cake, the same party omega got and the same toys omega got... Of which they already have tons of.

I'm telling you, children are highly sensitive to fairness and I am sure hers realise in an very young age who mommy's favourites are...
That dress and accessories Aph wore on her birthday was bought in Disneyland just like that while KJ never got his Buzz Lightning costume and was put in the same Ewok costume instead like his little brother and sister..
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PeekABoo wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:42 pm I wished I had started keeping track of every time TT had a "house idea" for the house they are building once they get to Australia. I didn't realize how much she says it until recently. So far, I remember her wanting a "big Lego room" and now a padded soccer room. Will they have bedrooms in this new house or will all the kids be shoved in one room again? (Not Cleo tho bc she's special) Anyone else notice when she notes her "house ideas"?

I do.
I would find it funny to find out how many of these "house ideas" actually make it into the new house. We could compare haha and see if she actually used any of the inspiration.
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Ashley18032 wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:41 pm I have a serious question for the group! What are your thoughts on how this weird always perform, always expose your most private moments with total strangers; always strip away any privacy or normalcy and just follow a creepy weird facade/ruse/ideal that comes to Taina’s sick mind? Do you think they will ever have a chance to be idk... Too tired or too sick to perform today... These kid’s aren’t being kept up with government standards for child actors or anything... They’re used and abused for entertainment from the time Taina creepily wakes them up for us to see to the time they pass out even if that’s on the wet, cold, grass in some weird place. It’s such a bizarre construct to me that it is legal to treat your kid’s like show ponies and they have NO rights to breaks! NO rights to privacy! NO real rights at all to their real extortion that is going on for Taina’s self gain, both monetarily and her deathly need for admiration from total strangers. Do you think in our lifetime they will make laws or rules regarding this type of gross violation of privacy of children too young to decide if that’s what they would like for themselves? Should it be legal to potentially damage their ability to obtain jobs or normal adulthood in the future. Their names alone make me think I would throw their resume away because they sound fake... Alias-like. They have their every move exploited. Makes me really question if I should continue watching enabling this. So sad to me! (Then again they are taught how to grift and use the guise of religion or government assistance to never have to actually work! Sick!)


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I was thinking that too. The older ones should be able to say no. Leave me alone. But if this is their only source of income, TT may use that to make them take part. She really should take time out and rethink their life. It must be exhausting to go around with a camera all the time. And the kids all look bored really.
I am guessing she doesn't have many skills for employment and unless the older ones stay and home and look after the kids she can't go out to work. Cleo is probably unemployable and Jers too. She claims they are qualified as hairdressers or whatever, but I wouldn't let cleo near dolls hair let alone human. God knows how they will fare out in Australia. As for subs, they go up by 1k practically daily. She keeps buying them.
I have seen other vloggers who have the intelligence to make a good job of what they do. She doesn't have those skills to make in vlogs.
I agree! I can’t believe this is her life plan and she has ten children’s well-being fully dependent on extorting their every move. Bizarre! Everything about this family gives me the creeps!


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