Brittani Boren Leach: Theory Thread

[Onchao16]

I know what sids is. its the comment they will act like it was a random act of god when no one knows what the cause of death is.

She literally typed “SIDS, and act like it was a random act of God”, saying that’s why SIDS is. Instead of SIDS being from neglect. Not sure how you’re reading that any differently. Basically, she is saying that they will label it as SIDS instead of negligence (if negligence was the cause)


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SIDS doesn't come from neglect though. SIDS just happens. This is where a lot of confusion comes from. People lump SIDS and accidental suffocation together. It is not the same. I don't understand why you are confused.

She didn’t say SIDS was neglect. She said they would do exactly what you’re saying and lump it in with SIDS if it was neglect.


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[babyshark]

Most of you have suggested it was probably unsafe sleep practices, which is definitely possible. I honestly don’t think he rolled off her bed at 3 months old. He had just turned 3 months old a week or so before Christmas. Unless she had posted video evidence in vlogs that showed him rolling, it seems unlikely to me.

My main theory is he was either in his car seat or on an adult bed & one of the other little kids found him & put a blanket over him to attempt to be sweet & tuck him in. That would be a huge reason as to why she isn’t sharing how he died. Her other kids would have to grow up with guilt knowing one of them killed their baby brother even though they didn’t mean to do it.

[scojacar]

I know what sids is. its the comment they will act like it was a random act of god when no one knows what the cause of death is.

She literally typed “SIDS, and act like it was a random act of God”, saying that’s why SIDS is. Instead of SIDS being from neglect. Not sure how you’re reading that any differently. Basically, she is saying that they will label it as SIDS instead of negligence (if negligence was the cause)


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SIDS doesn't come from neglect though. SIDS just happens. This is where a lot of confusion comes from. People lump SIDS and accidental suffocation together. It is not the same. I don't understand why you are confused.

Nobody said SIDS is neglect. She said that SIDS is NOT neglect, it IS a random act. And that Crew’s death WAS NOT a random act, and thus WAS (in theory) neglect. Therefore, Crew didn’t die of SIDS.


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[Onchao16]

She literally typed “SIDS, and act like it was a random act of God”, saying that’s why SIDS is. Instead of SIDS being from neglect. Not sure how you’re reading that any differently. Basically, she is saying that they will label it as SIDS instead of negligence (if negligence was the cause)


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SIDS doesn't come from neglect though. SIDS just happens. This is where a lot of confusion comes from. People lump SIDS and accidental suffocation together. It is not the same. I don't understand why you are confused.

Nobody said SIDS is neglect. She said that SIDS is NOT neglect, it IS a random act. And that Crew’s death WAS NOT a random act, and thus WAS (in theory) neglect. Therefore, Crew didn’t die of SIDS.


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THANK YOU!!


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[kabuki]

Most of you have suggested it was probably unsafe sleep practices, which is definitely possible. I honestly don’t think he rolled off her bed at 3 months old. He had just turned 3 months old a week or so before Christmas. Unless she had posted video evidence in vlogs that showed him rolling, it seems unlikely to me.

My main theory is he was either in his car seat or on an adult bed & one of the other little kids found him & put a blanket over him to attempt to be sweet & tuck him in. That would be a huge reason as to why she isn’t sharing how he died. Her other kids would have to grow up with guilt knowing one of them killed their baby brother even though they didn’t mean to do it.

Babies that young can definitely roll. The AAP actually advises that babies not be swaddled past 8 weeks due to risk of rolling and suffocating.

ETA: I don’t think he rolled his way off the bed but it’s possible.. more likely he just rolled onto his face, or wedged himself somewhere

[babyshark]

Most of you have suggested it was probably unsafe sleep practices, which is definitely possible. I honestly don’t think he rolled off her bed at 3 months old. He had just turned 3 months old a week or so before Christmas. Unless she had posted video evidence in vlogs that showed him rolling, it seems unlikely to me.

My main theory is he was either in his car seat or on an adult bed & one of the other little kids found him & put a blanket over him to attempt to be sweet & tuck him in. That would be a huge reason as to why she isn’t sharing how he died. Her other kids would have to grow up with guilt knowing one of them killed their baby brother even though they didn’t mean to do it.

Babies that young can definitely roll. The AAP actually advises that babies not be swaddled past 8 weeks due to risk of rolling and suffocating.

ETA: I don’t think he rolled his way off the bed but it’s possible.. more likely he just rolled onto his face, or wedged himself somewhere

Yes that’s what I meant, not rolling off the bed completely. He definitely could’ve gotten wedged somewhere.

[Justheretogossip]

Most of you have suggested it was probably unsafe sleep practices, which is definitely possible. I honestly don’t think he rolled off her bed at 3 months old. He had just turned 3 months old a week or so before Christmas. Unless she had posted video evidence in vlogs that showed him rolling, it seems unlikely to me.

My main theory is he was either in his car seat or on an adult bed & one of the other little kids found him & put a blanket over him to attempt to be sweet & tuck him in. That would be a huge reason as to why she isn’t sharing how he died. Her other kids would have to grow up with guilt knowing one of them killed their baby brother even though they didn’t mean to do it.

Babies that young can definitely roll. The AAP actually advises that babies not be swaddled past 8 weeks due to risk of rolling and suffocating.

ETA: I don’t think he rolled his way off the bed but it’s possible.. more likely he just rolled onto his face, or wedged himself somewhere

Yes that’s what I meant, not rolling off the bed completely. He definitely could’ve gotten wedged somewhere.

That’s what I’m thinking happened, I doubt he was rolling, she would have shared that stuff in vlogs/insta stories and I’ve never seen that. He maybe tried to roll and got
Half way and possibly a pillow being there to prevent rolling off the bed and maybe suffocated do to that.
It’s definitely widely speculated that he was probably on an adult bed, without a baby monitor and probably a blanket since I know she’s used blankets before and something happened within the situation.
But hey we could all be wrong.
As stated before I would hope she would share her story just to simply get the word out there for other mothers who think oh my baby is fine with a blanket, or oh just lay him on an adult bed when not home, whatever the reason I’m sure is something other parents have done without thinking about the consequences.

[4littlemonkeys]

You are delusional if you think anything attached to your bed can’t shift. Or that a sober parent can’t roll over on their child. Practice any sleep practices you want, but quit spreading false information about bedsharing being safe.


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Haven't spread any false information. Just the facts that you choose to ignore.

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You are not staying any FACTS. You are stating unsafe sleep practices that you do, and that you FEEL are ‘safe’ since, thankfully, nothing has happened to your baby. Because nothing has happened to your baby doesn’t make your sleep arrangements safe. So, yes, but saying bedsharing is safe, you are spreading false information. By saying side cars are safe, you are spreading false information. By saying sober parents are aware of their sleep position at all times, you are spreading false information. So stop. Continue to do what you’d like in your home, but quit saying bedsharing is safe. It isn’t.


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It is safe when practiced correctly. That's just the facts of the matter. Nothing will happen to my baby as long as I continue to practice safe bedsharing. Sorry I don't take the AAP as gospel.

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[kabuki]

Babies that young can definitely roll. The AAP actually advises that babies not be swaddled past 8 weeks due to risk of rolling and suffocating.

ETA: I don’t think he rolled his way off the bed but it’s possible.. more likely he just rolled onto his face, or wedged himself somewhere

Yes that’s what I meant, not rolling off the bed completely. He definitely could’ve gotten wedged somewhere.

That’s what I’m thinking happened, I doubt he was rolling, she would have shared that stuff in vlogs/insta stories and I’ve never seen that. He maybe tried to roll and got
Half way and possibly a pillow being there to prevent rolling off the bed and maybe suffocated do to that.
It’s definitely widely speculated that he was probably on an adult bed, without a baby monitor and probably a blanket since I know she’s used blankets before and something happened within the situation.
But hey we could all be wrong.
As stated before I would hope she would share her story just to simply get the word out there for other mothers who think oh my baby is fine with a blanket, or oh just lay him on an adult bed when not home, whatever the reason I’m sure is something other parents have done without thinking about the consequences.

Thinking about that possible situation seriously makes me so sad. My daughter started rolling not long ago and she was so proud and smiling trying to move around. To think he rolled into a pillow and suffocated makes me tear up honestly poor little baby if he did suffocate. I know accidents happen but there’s no excuse for putting a baby in a sleep area with blankets and pillows etc. I’m sure she knew better.

[LexiRae]

Most of you have suggested it was probably unsafe sleep practices, which is definitely possible. I honestly don’t think he rolled off her bed at 3 months old. He had just turned 3 months old a week or so before Christmas. Unless she had posted video evidence in vlogs that showed him rolling, it seems unlikely to me.

My main theory is he was either in his car seat or on an adult bed & one of the other little kids found him & put a blanket over him to attempt to be sweet & tuck him in. That would be a huge reason as to why she isn’t sharing how he died. Her other kids would have to grow up with guilt knowing one of them killed their baby brother even though they didn’t mean to do it.

The second I told my mom the story about baby crew she also said she thinks one of the older boys accidentally hurt him. It makes the most sense as to why she would be trying to “cover it up”. To protect her older son. This theory is the least common one but also the one that makes a lot of sense


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[violet08]

Haven't spread any false information. Just the facts that you choose to ignore.

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You are not staying any FACTS. You are stating unsafe sleep practices that you do, and that you FEEL are ‘safe’ since, thankfully, nothing has happened to your baby. Because nothing has happened to your baby doesn’t make your sleep arrangements safe. So, yes, but saying bedsharing is safe, you are spreading false information. By saying side cars are safe, you are spreading false information. By saying sober parents are aware of their sleep position at all times, you are spreading false information. So stop. Continue to do what you’d like in your home, but quit saying bedsharing is safe. It isn’t.


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It is safe when practiced correctly. That's just the facts of the matter. Nothing will happen to my baby as long as I continue to practice safe bedsharing. Sorry I don't take the AAP as gospel.

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I don’t take it as gospel either. But I can guarantee your not a profesional so stop spreading false information. I hope you continue to be so lucky with your baby. It is not safe.


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[charliema16]

Is it possible that the trauma of finding her baby not breathing has caused some kind of amnesia around how exactly she found him? Maybe she can’t recall if he was face down, covered in a blanket etc, maybe all she remembers is yelling for help and starting cpr.

[skippy1931]

unless we all are drs here you can't say it was neglect or intentional or that one of the kids did it. If there was any neglect or any thought about that there would be an investigation his body wouldn't even be released they wouldn't have been given the okay to donate the organs right away. I don't know what happened but simply because I don't I would never say its absolutely neglect, its their fault , or one of the kids no one knows that then them and the police . some can't seem to accept it could just be sids everyone is saying its neglect and unsafe sleeping yet no one knows that and just because they don't want to tell people doesn't mean its neglect or their fault

[skippy1931]

Why don’t my posts go through right away? It’s really frustrating o want to participate and dialogue in this thread but my posts never post.

its been brutal but there is also so many people trying to get on and post

[skippy1931]

She literally typed “SIDS, and act like it was a random act of God”, saying that’s why SIDS is. Instead of SIDS being from neglect. Not sure how you’re reading that any differently. Basically, she is saying that they will label it as SIDS instead of negligence (if negligence was the cause)


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SIDS doesn't come from neglect though. SIDS just happens. This is where a lot of confusion comes from. People lump SIDS and accidental suffocation together. It is not the same. I don't understand why you are confused.

Nobody said SIDS is neglect. She said that SIDS is NOT neglect, it IS a random act. And that Crew’s death WAS NOT a random act, and thus WAS (in theory) neglect. Therefore, Crew didn’t die of SIDS.


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because you say so? you don't know it wasn't sids you don't know it was a random act or neglect no one knows how do you know what he died of you don't

[Onchao16]

SIDS doesn't come from neglect though. SIDS just happens. This is where a lot of confusion comes from. People lump SIDS and accidental suffocation together. It is not the same. I don't understand why you are confused.

Nobody said SIDS is neglect. She said that SIDS is NOT neglect, it IS a random act. And that Crew’s death WAS NOT a random act, and thus WAS (in theory) neglect. Therefore, Crew didn’t die of SIDS.


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because you say so? you don't know it wasn't sids you don't know it was a random act or neglect no one knows how do you know what he died of you don't

WTH are you talking about?!?! You do realize your on the theory thread?!?! And people are posting their THEORIES right?!?! No one knows expect his parents and medical team.


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[scojacar]

SIDS doesn't come from neglect though. SIDS just happens. This is where a lot of confusion comes from. People lump SIDS and accidental suffocation together. It is not the same. I don't understand why you are confused.

Nobody said SIDS is neglect. She said that SIDS is NOT neglect, it IS a random act. And that Crew’s death WAS NOT a random act, and thus WAS (in theory) neglect. Therefore, Crew didn’t die of SIDS.


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because you say so? you don't know it wasn't sids you don't know it was a random act or neglect no one knows how do you know what he died of you don't

Holy shit, I didn’t say that, I was summarizing what the original poster said for you because you couldn’t understand it.


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[Onchao16]

Nobody said SIDS is neglect. She said that SIDS is NOT neglect, it IS a random act. And that Crew’s death WAS NOT a random act, and thus WAS (in theory) neglect. Therefore, Crew didn’t die of SIDS.


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because you say so? you don't know it wasn't sids you don't know it was a random act or neglect no one knows how do you know what he died of you don't

Holy shit, I didn’t say that, I was summarizing what the original poster said for you because you couldn’t understand it.


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[kabuki]

SIDS doesn't come from neglect though. SIDS just happens. This is where a lot of confusion comes from. People lump SIDS and accidental suffocation together. It is not the same. I don't understand why you are confused.

Nobody said SIDS is neglect. She said that SIDS is NOT neglect, it IS a random act. And that Crew’s death WAS NOT a random act, and thus WAS (in theory) neglect. Therefore, Crew didn’t die of SIDS.


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because you say so? you don't know it wasn't sids you don't know it was a random act or neglect no one knows how do you know what he died of you don't

If this forum bothers you so much why don’t you stay off of it? Or at least stick to the “non theory” forum? You really seem triggered by these posts ...

[AutumnLane]

I think the baby was left in unsafe sleeping conditions either left in his infant car seat and he overheated or put in an adult size bed for a nap. He probably rolled over and suffocated. I also think that one of the many children at the Christmas party could’ve wandered in unsupervised and covered him up thinking they were doing something sweet. Maybe they just placed a stuffed animal nearby thinking they were sharing.


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