Tania Licciardo-Toivola: Beans, fake routines and sleeping like sardines. | Part 4

[theoddmacabre]

Does this mean i have to follow them on IG and set up notifications for their stories now?!

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[Emily81]

Does this mean i have to follow them on IG and set up notifications for their stories now?!

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Don't, please!


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[Ashleytaylor]

Hi I been lurking for quite awhile but I finally made an account but do I have a lot to say XD a lot is repetitive from this site and other forums on other sites just as a heads up but it feels good to explain. So for one, I will admit for someone who has ocd and adhd who (mostly) loves routines, I will admit i love the idea of the white, grey, jeans, pink matching, to me it’s aesthetic. I would say the same about the routine but it’s obvious that she doesn’t wake up at 3am every single morning. I mean yeah back in Finland when they have those 24 hour daylights, of course I would wake up at that time if it was bright and sunny out. There is no way especially after sometimes in videos she would say she was up till 1am......Something that broke my heart was poor little KJ when in one of the Disney videos, taina gets the girls dresses and you see little KJ staring at the edge of the bed and then you see him kinda look on the other side of the bed, seeing if there was anything for him. That was just messed up. Also D’art doesn’t get much attention either even Romeo and Shakespeare don’t get much either but I will see them a bit more than d’art. You can see that d’art and Romeo know about their mother and I hope as they get older they can get away from her because all I see from them is fear with the nodding their heads when taina asks them a question. What if one of them rebelled? What if one of them wanted to buy other colored clothing? But they don’t have a word to say. Under Tainas control they have dull personalities because they know they can’t stand up for themselves against taina. Another thing I noticed after someone said this before is that taina and Jenna def have something going on. On the wedding video, you can see taina in the background giving the dirtiest look when Jenna was hugging someone(forgot who) like jealous type. I have so much to say but I think this is good for now.


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[Liv10013645]

Since I have started reading this forum, people have pointed out things I wouldn't have realised, something always seemed a bit of but I don't know what.

I can't remember if it was here but people are wondering where leonardo gets money if he doesn't work and jenna and what I noticed in one of his videos about them moving it sounded like he said it's rented so it's free. And people were throwing out the idea it's because of people from there church, which would make sense if I heard him right and how he was just given the keys to somebody's property just for a video

[Iluvtorant]

Since I have started reading this forum, people have pointed out things I wouldn't have realised, something always seemed a bit of but I don't know what.

I can't remember if it was here but people are wondering where leonardo gets money if he doesn't work and jenna and what I noticed in one of his videos about them moving it sounded like he said it's rented so it's free. And people were throwing out the idea it's because of people from there church, which would make sense if I heard him right and how he was just given the keys to somebody's property just for a video

Leonardo and Jenna probably get unemployment benefits plus housing benefits... after paying rent, running water, electricity, medical bills, medicine, house insurance each of them is supposed to have 426,88 euros to spend however they please, so I think they do quite well for not working

[Ashley18032]

Since I have started reading this forum, people have pointed out things I wouldn't have realised, something always seemed a bit of but I don't know what.

I can't remember if it was here but people are wondering where leonardo gets money if he doesn't work and jenna and what I noticed in one of his videos about them moving it sounded like he said it's rented so it's free. And people were throwing out the idea it's because of people from there church, which would make sense if I heard him right and how he was just given the keys to somebody's property just for a video

Leonardo and Jenna probably get unemployment benefits plus housing benefits... after paying rent, running water, electricity, medical bills, medicine, house insurance each of them is supposed to have 426,88 euros to spend however they please, so I think they do quite well for not working

I’m confused about these unemployment benefits. In America you do not qualify for unemployment compensation unless you had full time employment for one year and lost that job to no fault of your own. You then have a two week waiting period and then get it. Finally you must show you’re actively seeking employment and you can only collect it for a maximum of two years before you’re cut off.


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[Ashleytaylor]

Since I have started reading this forum, people have pointed out things I wouldn't have realised, something always seemed a bit of but I don't know what.

I can't remember if it was here but people are wondering where leonardo gets money if he doesn't work and jenna and what I noticed in one of his videos about them moving it sounded like he said it's rented so it's free. And people were throwing out the idea it's because of people from there church, which would make sense if I heard him right and how he was just given the keys to somebody's property just for a video

Sorry if I did this reply thing wrong(I’m assuming it’s quote) but anyways yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the church or the grandmother. Even when they all lived in the big house, would all those benefits of 10 kids and the husbands “eye” cover it all? I know Finland is generous but I’m not sure how generous. She used to be a wedding photographer(from wedding vid she mentioned) but I remember scrolling through her insta and I didn’t see anything mention about working or non working, but it seemed that taina wasn’t working for even quite some time before YouTube. So it’s probably atleast the church. She prob doesn’t even record YouTube as income. Who knows maybe someone died in the family and they got a lot money from that and gave some to leonardo even though he is distant from the family.

Leonardo said about being depressed. Maybe he is running out of money. Also i wouldn’t be surprised if it had to do with since his mom is a YouTuber, that he took on the same role, thinking “I’m going to be a youtuber the rest of my life” as what many especially teens and people in their 20s want to do. His videos don’t make enough, and I think honestly he is quite bored. I remember for me when I stopped going to school for some time to figure what I wanted to do, and I remember feeling a little down because I used to stream on twitch. You get bored of it not because you don’t like to do it, but social media is meant in most cases a slow and long success. And when you don’t have a skill (which I think he was going for initially), you get bored and you feel kinda lost. Not saying that’s why, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s part of the case especially since his videos are part of a lot of those clickbait type popular videos you see on YouTube nowadays.


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[Liv10013645]

Since I have started reading this forum, people have pointed out things I wouldn't have realised, something always seemed a bit of but I don't know what.

I can't remember if it was here but people are wondering where leonardo gets money if he doesn't work and jenna and what I noticed in one of his videos about them moving it sounded like he said it's rented so it's free. And people were throwing out the idea it's because of people from there church, which would make sense if I heard him right and how he was just given the keys to somebody's property just for a video

Sorry if I did this reply thing wrong(I’m assuming it’s quote) but anyways yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the church or the grandmother. Even when they all lived in the big house, would all those benefits of 10 kids and the husbands “eye” cover it all? I know Finland is generous but I’m not sure how generous. She used to be a wedding photographer(from wedding vid she mentioned) but I remember scrolling through her insta and I didn’t see anything mention about working or non working, but it seemed that taina wasn’t working for even quite some time before YouTube. So it’s probably atleast the church. She prob doesn’t even record YouTube as income. Who knows maybe someone died in the family and they got a lot money from that and gave some to leonardo even though he is distant from the family.

Leonardo said about being depressed. Maybe he is running out of money. Also i wouldn’t be surprised if it had to do with since his mom is a YouTuber, that he took on the same role, thinking “I’m going to be a youtuber the rest of my life” as what many especially teens and people in their 20s want to do. His videos don’t make enough, and I think honestly he is quite bored. I remember for me when I stopped going to school for some time to figure what I wanted to do, and I remember feeling a little down because I used to stream on twitch. You get bored of it not because you don’t like to do it, but social media is meant in most cases a slow and long success. And when you don’t have a skill (which I think he was going for initially), you get bored and you feel kinda lost. Not saying that’s why, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s part of the case especially since his videos are part of a lot of those clickbait type popular videos you see on YouTube nowadays.


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Hope I'm replying properly to I don't know how generous the benefits are either, it's just very strange that they can afford to do so much have designer stuff and have all the musical equipment that's not cheap, if the benefites are that good in Finland then I'm moving (jokes)
He said in one of his videos he did have a job but was giving it up for YouTube, maybe he will make the right decision and go back to work, as YouTube can never be guaranteed. Clickbait videos drive me insane

[Iluvtorant]

Since I have started reading this forum, people have pointed out things I wouldn't have realised, something always seemed a bit of but I don't know what.

I can't remember if it was here but people are wondering where leonardo gets money if he doesn't work and jenna and what I noticed in one of his videos about them moving it sounded like he said it's rented so it's free. And people were throwing out the idea it's because of people from there church, which would make sense if I heard him right and how he was just given the keys to somebody's property just for a video

Leonardo and Jenna probably get unemployment benefits plus housing benefits... after paying rent, running water, electricity, medical bills, medicine, house insurance each of them is supposed to have 426,88 euros to spend however they please, so I think they do quite well for not working

I’m confused about these unemployment benefits. In America you do not qualify for unemployment compensation unless you had full time employment for one year and lost that job to no fault of your own. You then have a two week waiting period and then get it. Finally you must show you’re actively seeking employment and you can only collect it for a maximum of two years before you’re cut off.


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Finland is Finland They have some general rules plus they can decide what you need to do (based on your education, job goals etc.)... attend this and that course, sometimes they can ask you to apply for this and that job and you need to report the outcome. If you don't play by their rules or miss deadlines, they can give you a waiting period (when they don't pay you anything), but then you can pretty much apply the same money from the social security system (it's supposed to make sure that people survive). Overall you can be doing nothing for years and get money for doing nothing. It's a crap system as it doesn't really motivate many people to get low salary jobs as you as get paid the same for playing video games at home. There is supposed to be a new law in the future about how kids are pretty much forced to stay at school till they are 18 (now they can be done after finishing comprehensive school which is nine years) and after that they may choose to continue their secondary education in either an academic track (you take this if you want to go to university... there are ways to get there later too, but this one is easier and more traditional route) or a vocational track. I believe Taina's genius kids have done that christian school thing for maybe 12 years? and after that they have gone to vocational track (Leonardo and Jerusalem or maybe they graduated from the Finnish comprehensive school)... Cleopatra dropped out from vocational track and I believe Romeo is doing nothing, which won't be possible in the future. Maybe that's why they are escaping to Australia as in the future their kids need to actually attend school and get an education

[Hariett]

Hey guys, long time no see, I was busy with my exams but decided to have a look what's going on here
And no, only because I make so many spelling and grammar mistakes, that doesn't mean that I am Taina English is just not my native language and unfortunately I'm not such a language genius like Cleo haha

About the last name thing and the possible relation of Leo and Jenna.. Some of you really had a point. Jenna's mother's last name is indeed 'Tovila'. But I don't think it's possible that they are cousins 1st grade, as Taina's brothers live in Australia.
There are about 2.000 people with the family name Tovoila, we can't say for sure how close they are related, especially if they are from the same area in Finland.. If you look back far enough everyone is related
But then again on the other hand, the mere fact that they never mention this 'coincidence' should make one suspicious.

Jenna has a little sister which she never mentions. Her mother looks like she's in her (early?) 30's, maybe she had Jenna in a quite young age and who knows what family dramas were behind all this, as Jenna seemed to be a quite depressive girl herself before she met Leo..


My theory about their disappearance is that Taina has nowhere to film because they are kind of homeless now and staying with relatives (her aunt and/or cousin)!
She rented this holiday house by the lake only for a week or two around New Year, filmed a few senseless videos and then moved out (and on).

[Hariett]

Sorry T, I mean 'houseless' not homeless

[Damom1]

I've been wanting to tell you about this family. Please read til the end!
So, I found this family online. They are really interesting. It's a mom and a dad with a bunch of kids. They have a long last name, a combination of mom and dad's surnames so they hyphenate it. The mom is Australian and beautiful. Sure, she's had a few cosmetic procedures and does yoga but you have to admit, she looks great for a mom of many kids. The kids are so cute. They are dressed all alike; the girls often in pink and boys blue. Sometimes, they all wearing matching track suits. My favorite picture of them has them all lined up in white clothing with touches of light blue. You can tell the mom knows what is aesthetically pleasing. She loves to have them match in their jeans and the little girls are primped with ribbons in their blonde hair. Some people feel this destroys the kids sense of identity and individuality but the kids say they like dressing this way. Their family videos seem perfect, idyllic. The mom has such a charismatic, sweet voice and speaks lovingly but she also seems to run the show as the father hangs in the background a bit. Neither parent works really but they obviously have money coming in from somewhere because they buy nice brand name items/clothing. Mom loves having a big family!

They live in a big house. It's in a rural area, near a lake. When people see it, they comment how nice it is and how they would like to live there. Its very organized. The mom may be a bit obessive compulsive but you know, organization keeps the house running smooth! All the children are homeschooled and let me tell you, boy are they smart! I know this because if you catch a glimpse of the math the kids are doing at young ages, you will see how advanced they must be. The mom says they are a couple years ahead for their ages. Besides academics, the children also learn music. Singing and instruments are a big part of their lives. Their mother really loved the idea of her children becoming musical geniuses. She had this funny idea that maybe they could be like the VonTrapps from Sound of Music.

The parents were religious but not in the typical way. They were a bit of doomsday-ers. They splintered off from church and started their own brand of spirituality. They've felt the importantance of sharing the message of Jesus and that the end is approaching.

Some people have said that the kids are starving but they are alive as you can see! They may appear hungry but food has been controlled a little in the house for health reasons. They dont eat meat or too much junkfood.

They travel. Sometimes they visit with mom's friends in other countries. They seem happy! They always agree with mom and no one appears to be rebelling! No one questions mom, even when she seems to contradict herself. Her followers just take her word as truth.

Do you know this family? They've become quite famous online! Thats right, I am speaking of Anne Hamilton-Bryne's family, AKA the cult called "The Family" in Australia. Scary how many people were drawn into this dangerous family. Thankfully, most of the kids are doing better after years of therapy and both "parents" have passed away. It sounded a bit familiar tho right?

[lalalazy]

I've been wanting to tell you about this family. Please read til the end!
So, I found this family online. They are really interesting. It's a mom and a dad with a bunch of kids. They have a long last name, a combination of mom and dad's surnames so they hyphenate it. The mom is Australian and beautiful. Sure, she's had a few cosmetic procedures and does yoga but you have to admit, she looks great for a mom of many kids. The kids are so cute. They are dressed all alike; the girls often in pink and boys blue. Sometimes, they all wearing matching track suits. My favorite picture of them has them all lined up in white clothing with touches of light blue. You can tell the mom knows what is aesthetically pleasing. She loves to have them match in their jeans and the little girls are primped with ribbons in their blonde hair. Some people feel this destroys the kids sense of identity and individuality but the kids say they like dressing this way. Their family videos seem perfect, idyllic. The mom has such a charismatic, sweet voice and speaks lovingly but she also seems to run the show as the father hangs in the background a bit. Neither parent works really but they obviously have money coming in from somewhere because they buy nice brand name items/clothing. Mom loves having a big family!

They live in a big house. It's in a rural area, near a lake. When people see it, they comment how nice it is and how they would like to live there. Its very organized. The mom may be a bit obessive compulsive but you know, organization keeps the house running smooth! All the children are homeschooled and let me tell you, boy are they smart! I know this because if you catch a glimpse of the math the kids are doing at young ages, you will see how advanced they must be. The mom says they are a couple years ahead for their ages. Besides academics, the children also learn music. Singing and instruments are a big part of their lives. Their mother really loved the idea of her children becoming musical geniuses. She had this funny idea that maybe they could be like the VonTrapps from Sound of Music.

The parents were religious but not in the typical way. They were a bit of doomsday-ers. They splintered off from church and started their own brand of spirituality. They've felt the importantance of sharing the message of Jesus and that the end is approaching.

Some people have said that the kids are starving but they are alive as you can see! They may appear hungry but food has been controlled a little in the house for health reasons. They dont eat meat or too much junkfood.

They travel. Sometimes they visit with mom's friends in other countries. They seem happy! They always agree with mom and no one appears to be rebelling! No one questions mom, even when she seems to contradict herself. Her followers just take her word as truth.

Do you know this family? They've become quite famous online! Thats right, I am speaking of Anne Hamilton-Bryne's family, AKA the cult called "The Family" in Australia. Scary how many people were drawn into this dangerous family. Thankfully, most of the kids are doing better after years of therapy and both "parents" have passed away. It sounded a bit familiar tho right?

Wow. This is an eerily accurate comparison.

[Liv10013645]

I just watched a video of the three kids opening presents and omg it broke my heart kj on got one present to open while the girls got so much more and taina then gave him dried fruit as a substitute poor kj

[Emily81]

I've been wanting to tell you about this family. Please read til the end!
So, I found this family online. They are really interesting. It's a mom and a dad with a bunch of kids. They have a long last name, a combination of mom and dad's surnames so they hyphenate it. The mom is Australian and beautiful. Sure, she's had a few cosmetic procedures and does yoga but you have to admit, she looks great for a mom of many kids. The kids are so cute. They are dressed all alike; the girls often in pink and boys blue. Sometimes, they all wearing matching track suits. My favorite picture of them has them all lined up in white clothing with touches of light blue. You can tell the mom knows what is aesthetically pleasing. She loves to have them match in their jeans and the little girls are primped with ribbons in their blonde hair. Some people feel this destroys the kids sense of identity and individuality but the kids say they like dressing this way. Their family videos seem perfect, idyllic. The mom has such a charismatic, sweet voice and speaks lovingly but she also seems to run the show as the father hangs in the background a bit. Neither parent works really but they obviously have money coming in from somewhere because they buy nice brand name items/clothing. Mom loves having a big family!

They live in a big house. It's in a rural area, near a lake. When people see it, they comment how nice it is and how they would like to live there. Its very organized. The mom may be a bit obessive compulsive but you know, organization keeps the house running smooth! All the children are homeschooled and let me tell you, boy are they smart! I know this because if you catch a glimpse of the math the kids are doing at young ages, you will see how advanced they must be. The mom says they are a couple years ahead for their ages. Besides academics, the children also learn music. Singing and instruments are a big part of their lives. Their mother really loved the idea of her children becoming musical geniuses. She had this funny idea that maybe they could be like the VonTrapps from Sound of Music.

The parents were religious but not in the typical way. They were a bit of doomsday-ers. They splintered off from church and started their own brand of spirituality. They've felt the importantance of sharing the message of Jesus and that the end is approaching.

Some people have said that the kids are starving but they are alive as you can see! They may appear hungry but food has been controlled a little in the house for health reasons. They dont eat meat or too much junkfood.

They travel. Sometimes they visit with mom's friends in other countries. They seem happy! They always agree with mom and no one appears to be rebelling! No one questions mom, even when she seems to contradict herself. Her followers just take her word as truth.

Do you know this family? They've become quite famous online! Thats right, I am speaking of Anne Hamilton-Bryne's family, AKA the cult called "The Family" in Australia. Scary how many people were drawn into this dangerous family. Thankfully, most of the kids are doing better after years of therapy and both "parents" have passed away. It sounded a bit familiar tho right?

Are on Reddit? I've seen this exact post there some time ago.

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[Liv10013645]

So taina just posted asking do people want to see a video of her getting rid of her acne scars and what products to use, so she doesn't have any ideas left so she copies jenna, as this was jennas last video I would love to see if a pattern emerges here

[Damom1]

I've been wanting to tell you about this family. Please read til the end!
So, I found this family online. They are really interesting. It's a mom and a dad with a bunch of kids. They have a long last name, a combination of mom and dad's surnames so they hyphenate it. The mom is Australian and beautiful. Sure, she's had a few cosmetic procedures and does yoga but you have to admit, she looks great for a mom of many kids. The kids are so cute. They are dressed all alike; the girls often in pink and boys blue. Sometimes, they all wearing matching track suits. My favorite picture of them has them all lined up in white clothing with touches of light blue. You can tell the mom knows what is aesthetically pleasing. She loves to have them match in their jeans and the little girls are primped with ribbons in their blonde hair. Some people feel this destroys the kids sense of identity and individuality but the kids say they like dressing this way. Their family videos seem perfect, idyllic. The mom has such a charismatic, sweet voice and speaks lovingly but she also seems to run the show as the father hangs in the background a bit. Neither parent works really but they obviously have money coming in from somewhere because they buy nice brand name items/clothing. Mom loves having a big family!

They live in a big house. It's in a rural area, near a lake. When people see it, they comment how nice it is and how they would like to live there. Its very organized. The mom may be a bit obessive compulsive but you know, organization keeps the house running smooth! All the children are homeschooled and let me tell you, boy are they smart! I know this because if you catch a glimpse of the math the kids are doing at young ages, you will see how advanced they must be. The mom says they are a couple years ahead for their ages. Besides academics, the children also learn music. Singing and instruments are a big part of their lives. Their mother really loved the idea of her children becoming musical geniuses. She had this funny idea that maybe they could be like the VonTrapps from Sound of Music.

The parents were religious but not in the typical way. They were a bit of doomsday-ers. They splintered off from church and started their own brand of spirituality. They've felt the importantance of sharing the message of Jesus and that the end is approaching.

Some people have said that the kids are starving but they are alive as you can see! They may appear hungry but food has been controlled a little in the house for health reasons. They dont eat meat or too much junkfood.

They travel. Sometimes they visit with mom's friends in other countries. They seem happy! They always agree with mom and no one appears to be rebelling! No one questions mom, even when she seems to contradict herself. Her followers just take her word as truth.

Do you know this family? They've become quite famous online! Thats right, I am speaking of Anne Hamilton-Bryne's family, AKA the cult called "The Family" in Australia. Scary how many people were drawn into this dangerous family. Thankfully, most of the kids are doing better after years of therapy and both "parents" have passed away. It sounded a bit familiar tho right?

Are on Reddit? I've seen this exact post there some time ago.

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I'm not but please share if you see it again because I literally wrote this last night so if someone else has been seeing the similarities, I'd love to chat with that person!
I remember when TT posted the video encouraging the kids to re-enact the scenes from Sound of Music, I almost died! I was like "Holy Anne Hamilton!" because that was Anne's thing, dreaming of the children singing and performing in matching outfits like the VonTrapps!
Then, yesterday I rewatched the video of TT "homeschooling" the "nappy gang" and the video she was showing toddlers was way too advanced! I dont remember exactly what the video was saying but something like "square the hypotenuse", definitely not something TTs toddlers were grasping. Then she asks Omega if he's enjoying laying there in her lap learning all that "Algebra" with his siblings. Algebra for 1, 2 and 3 year olds? It instantly caused me to recollect how Anne would tell everyone that her children were Leaps and Bounds ahead with their homeschooling. She would have elaborate algebraic equations written on the homeschooling board in the house so that when people visited they would believe that the children were actually learning those things when the children have since said that they were actually far behind or their ages.
The other funny thing is how much Paul's mother reminds me of Anne Hamilton, even her hairdo is similar to the one that Anne wore in her later years and let's face it having a woman be the leader of a sect is not exactly common. Paul's mom calls herself a prophetess where as Anne Hamilton believed for a time she was Jesus. Everything on the surface looked great in Anne's family however we now know that there where is much more sinister secrets behind a facade of perfect beautiful loving family. Imagine how big her following would have been if the internet was in the 80s what it is now!

[Lyanna]

I still want to know how Leonardo and Jenna met. Jenna said in one of her videos that they met at church but Taina's family don't go to church.

[chocolatelover711]

Hey guys, long time no see, I was busy with my exams but decided to have a look what's going on here
And no, only because I make so many spelling and grammar mistakes, that doesn't mean that I am Taina English is just not my native language and unfortunately I'm not such a language genius like Cleo haha

About the last name thing and the possible relation of Leo and Jenna.. Some of you really had a point. Jenna's mother's last name is indeed 'Tovila'. But I don't think it's possible that they are cousins 1st grade, as Taina's brothers live in Australia.
There are about 2.000 people with the family name Tovoila, we can't say for sure how close they are related, especially if they are from the same area in Finland.. If you look back far enough everyone is related
But then again on the other hand, the mere fact that they never mention this 'coincidence' should make one suspicious.

Jenna has a little sister which she never mentions. Her mother looks like she's in her (early?) 30's, maybe she had Jenna in a quite young age and who knows what family dramas were behind all this, as Jenna seemed to be a quite depressive girl herself before she met Leo..


My theory about their disappearance is that Taina has nowhere to film because they are kind of homeless now and staying with relatives (her aunt and/or cousin)!
She rented this holiday house by the lake only for a week or two around New Year, filmed a few senseless videos and then moved out (and on).

We should start a club for people on here who have been accused of being Taina herself- last week someone thought I was her. I guess only comments that tear the woman to shreds are acceptable and if amongst those types that you post, one comment sneaks in stating facts that defend her, wham- you're her or a "sychophant. I know the point of this site is to comment on the drama but come on. Crazy!

[Charleston3]

Since I have started reading this forum, people have pointed out things I wouldn't have realised, something always seemed a bit of but I don't know what.

I can't remember if it was here but people are wondering where leonardo gets money if he doesn't work and jenna and what I noticed in one of his videos about them moving it sounded like he said it's rented so it's free. And people were throwing out the idea it's because of people from there church, which would make sense if I heard him right and how he was just given the keys to somebody's property just for a video

I don't know if this is still a thing or not but in one of Leonardo's old videos he stated that he and Jenna installed wifi in people's houses and that's how they got money. I believe they stopped when his youtube was able to be monetized, but now that he's not posting as often they might have gone back to that. Jenna is signed to a modeling agency now, it's not a huge world renowed agency but she's done a couple of shoots so they've probably gotten a decent amount of money from that.