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maccam19 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:12 pm
I'm pretty sure it's the Sex Education ad, the new show by Netflix.
Honestly it is inappropriate for kids, and it's ridiculous Youtube allowed it with the whole COPA kids protection stuff going on right now.
But she always insists that her videos arent for kids so that shouldn't be a problem
Exactly! If she were following both YT requirements and federal law, there should be no problem. If she labeled the video for kids, the ad would not display. I kind of hope she is made an example of by the FTC, they will be obligated to pick someone if they want to maintain their credibility.
Also, I think her parenting book might be coming out in March based on her comments about a "project" releasing. I hope someone takes one for the team and gives us a write-up.
What's her definition of "kids" though because while I agree that super young kids like Russell and Eve shouldn't be watching if she had more high school aged kids I don't know that I see a problem with them watching. I mean he'll they might even get a better education from the show than their actual school where they live. That is if they're only taught abstinence.
In today's vlog Ruby is looking back at photos from college and meeting Kevin. She says she was too cheap to buy milk for herself and Kevin used to cook for her and buy milk.
Especially back in around 2000 surely milk was really cheap? As far as I understood milk is a lot cheaper in the USA than in the UK? Weren't her parents fairly financially secure by this point, surely they could have given her an extra $10/ month?!
She also talks about being a licensed CNA... Is it a licensed profession?! In the UK a HCA/ nursing assistant isn't licensed, they might do extra courses like phlebotomy, manual handling, awareness courses, neurological observations but it isn't a protected title in the way a nurse is (in the UK to say you are a registered nurse if you are not is illegal along with other registered professions).
If she was such a good CNA why is she so bad at meeting her and her children's health needs?
It is a licensed profession. But I don't believe for a minute that she worked as one for very long, or that she was a good one. She has no empathy. She strikes me as the type to get mad at incontinent patients, or even let them lie in their own mess until the next shift. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I just don't see her being a good caretaker. She barely takes care of her own children.
eloise92 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:53 am
In today's vlog Ruby is looking back at photos from college and meeting Kevin. She says she was too cheap to buy milk for herself and Kevin used to cook for her and buy milk.
Especially back in around 2000 surely milk was really cheap? As far as I understood milk is a lot cheaper in the USA than in the UK? Weren't her parents fairly financially secure by this point, surely they could have given her an extra $10/ month?!
She also talks about being a licensed CNA... Is it a licensed profession?! In the UK a HCA/ nursing assistant isn't licensed, they might do extra courses like phlebotomy, manual handling, awareness courses, neurological observations but it isn't a protected title in the way a nurse is (in the UK to say you are a registered nurse if you are not is illegal along with other registered professions).
If she was such a good CNA why is she so bad at meeting her and her children's health needs?
You forgot it was making her teeth drown. Haha!!! Nope it’s not licensed. It’s a certification. Just like I’m a Medical Assistant. I’ve took the test I’m certified. I don’t have a license and I couldn’t claim to.
natalka81 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:09 pm
Wait. I missed something. What's wrong with the Carebears?
I believe the Care Bears were "too whiny", Phineas and Ferb "too bratty", and Harry Potter too demonic/wicked. They never mentioned why iCarly was banned.
They aren’t allowed to watch Harry Potter? That’s funny because Shari had a conniption fit when Russell was too rough on a copy of the books.
lmmomSD wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:22 am
As far as I know, CNA _is_ licensed. You can be a caregiver or a MA without being licensed, but there is a state licensing exam for CNA's.
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Correct for the states in the US. You have to renew license too. Good stepping stone to becoming an RN.
lmmomSD wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:17 am
It is a licensed profession. But I don't believe for a minute that she worked as one for very long, or that she was a good one. She has no empathy. She strikes me as the type to get mad at incontinent patients, or even let them lie in their own mess until the next shift. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I just don't see her being a good caretaker. She barely takes care of her own children.
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She never actually worked as a CNA. Thank goodness
I hate how they keep saying that in only a few years Shari will be married and having babies. She might be and I guess that’s fine but she’s also might not. Why are they pushing for her start a family before 25. It just seems so bizarre. Even Shari seems to think it’s a given that she’ll be married before like 21. Is that a thing for all Mormons or just Utah Mormons? I couldn’t imagine the horror Ruby would go through if one of her kids decided to not get married and have kids until their later twnties or even their thirties. Or worse have no kids or spouse at a all. Shari isn’t even 17, she shouldn’t be thinking about babies and marriage yet.
From what I read a CNA is a certification and not a license. It requires about 80 hours of coursework that is offered at high schools, community colleges, the Red Cross or nursing homes. You just need a GED and about $2k. I was really surprised to hear Ruby went after this certification, considering how narcissistic she is. I am not surprised to hear she never used it. It is actually pretty damn selfish to choose do this this just because it was "something she wanted", when she had a family at home that was struggling to survive. They had to "borrow" potatoes from their neighbor to have something to feed Kevin's mother when she visited. You can't eat a vanity certification. If I were Kevin I would have made her use it, so they could afford to buy their own potatoes.
Ruby's assertion that milk dyes your teeth white is both adorable and horrifying. It is probably better for everyone that she never used that CNA cert. I noticed she also labeled her 80 hr course "Mom goes back to school". I thought she had been dreaming of "going back to school" since Shari was a baby.....but she already did.
It seems like she seeks out relatively easy to obtain titles that might sound suitably impressive to a person not familiar with her actual accomplishments: Ruby Franke, Author, Therapist and Certified Nursing Assistant. Sounds like she might be someone who has some serious knowledge to impart right? Really she is just a retired stay-at-home mom who typed up a recipe for a baked potato, sent her kid away for strangers to parent, and let her baby cry for days with a broken femur before seeking qualified medical assistance. She is getting more and more dangerous.
Ash_cats123 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:33 pm
I hate how they keep saying that in only a few years Shari will be married and having babies. She might be and I guess that’s fine but she’s also might not. Why are they pushing for her start a family before 25. It just seems so bizarre. Even Shari seems to think it’s a given that she’ll be married before like 21. Is that a thing for all Mormons or just Utah Mormons? I couldn’t imagine the horror Ruby would go through if one of her kids decided to not get married and have kids until their later twnties or even their thirties. Or worse have no kids or spouse at a all. Shari isn’t even 17, she shouldn’t be thinking about babies and marriage yet.
Honestly, I think that's all fundie religions, you can even look at families like the Duggars, Bates, etc. all they care about is having a lot of children. Why do they do that? idk, it doesn't make sense to you or me but they disguise it under "children are a blessing from god" but honestly, I think they just want to have a lot of kids to spread their religion, thus making their small religion bigger. Its sad though, because you look at the Duggar girls, most of them have kids already at a young age and haven't gotten a chance to enjoy life, and grow. Even though she annoys me, I feel bad for shari, even if she were to become a lawyer, she'd be focused on her family pressuring her to have kids.
Ash_cats123 wrote:I hate how they keep saying that in only a few years Shari will be married and having babies. She might be and I guess that’s fine but she’s also might not. Why are they pushing for her start a family before 25. It just seems so bizarre. Even Shari seems to think it’s a given that she’ll be married before like 21. Is that a thing for all Mormons or just Utah Mormons? I couldn’t imagine the horror Ruby would go through if one of her kids decided to not get married and have kids until their later twnties or even their thirties. Or worse have no kids or spouse at a all. Shari isn’t even 17, she shouldn’t be thinking about babies and marriage yet.
So I have a Mormon classmate that let’s me ask questions. I asked her about the Utah mormons and she said that they are plain weird.
Ash_cats123 wrote:I hate how they keep saying that in only a few years Shari will be married and having babies. She might be and I guess that’s fine but she’s also might not. Why are they pushing for her start a family before 25. It just seems so bizarre. Even Shari seems to think it’s a given that she’ll be married before like 21. Is that a thing for all Mormons or just Utah Mormons? I couldn’t imagine the horror Ruby would go through if one of her kids decided to not get married and have kids until their later twnties or even their thirties. Or worse have no kids or spouse at a all. Shari isn’t even 17, she shouldn’t be thinking about babies and marriage yet.
So I have a Mormon classmate that let’s me ask questions. I asked her about the Utah mormons and she said that they are plain weird.
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I think in utah you're considered an old maid if you're anything past 21 because most of them marry pretty much after men come back from missions
Ash_cats123 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:33 pm
I hate how they keep saying that in only a few years Shari will be married and having babies. She might be and I guess that’s fine but she’s also might not. Why are they pushing for her start a family before 25. It just seems so bizarre. Even Shari seems to think it’s a given that she’ll be married before like 21. Is that a thing for all Mormons or just Utah Mormons? I couldn’t imagine the horror Ruby would go through if one of her kids decided to not get married and have kids until their later twnties or even their thirties. Or worse have no kids or spouse at a all. Shari isn’t even 17, she shouldn’t be thinking about babies and marriage yet.
Honestly, I think that's all fundie religions, you can even look at families like the Duggars, Bates, etc. all they care about is having a lot of children. Why do they do that? idk, it doesn't make sense to you or me but they disguise it under "children are a blessing from god" but honestly, I think they just want to have a lot of kids to spread their religion, thus making their small religion bigger. Its sad though, because you look at the Duggar girls, most of them have kids already at a young age and haven't gotten a chance to enjoy life, and grow. Even though she annoys me, I feel bad for shari, even if she were to become a lawyer, she'd be focused on her family pressuring her to have kids.
I'm holding out hope that at least one of the Duggar girls either only has like 4 kids or none
Ash_cats123 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:33 pm
I hate how they keep saying that in only a few years Shari will be married and having babies. She might be and I guess that’s fine but she’s also might not. Why are they pushing for her start a family before 25. It just seems so bizarre. Even Shari seems to think it’s a given that she’ll be married before like 21. Is that a thing for all Mormons or just Utah Mormons? I couldn’t imagine the horror Ruby would go through if one of her kids decided to not get married and have kids until their later twnties or even their thirties. Or worse have no kids or spouse at a all. Shari isn’t even 17, she shouldn’t be thinking about babies and marriage yet.
Honestly, I think that's all fundie religions, you can even look at families like the Duggars, Bates, etc. all they care about is having a lot of children. Why do they do that? idk, it doesn't make sense to you or me but they disguise it under "children are a blessing from god" but honestly, I think they just want to have a lot of kids to spread their religion, thus making their small religion bigger. Its sad though, because you look at the Duggar girls, most of them have kids already at a young age and haven't gotten a chance to enjoy life, and grow. Even though she annoys me, I feel bad for shari, even if she were to become a lawyer, she'd be focused on her family pressuring her to have kids.
I'm holding out hope that at least one of the Duggar girls either only has like 4 kids or none
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I think Jill and Jinger definitely will stay under the 4.
Ash_cats123 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:33 pm
I hate how they keep saying that in only a few years Shari will be married and having babies. She might be and I guess that’s fine but she’s also might not. Why are they pushing for her start a family before 25. It just seems so bizarre. Even Shari seems to think it’s a given that she’ll be married before like 21. Is that a thing for all Mormons or just Utah Mormons? I couldn’t imagine the horror Ruby would go through if one of her kids decided to not get married and have kids until their later twnties or even their thirties. Or worse have no kids or spouse at a all. Shari isn’t even 17, she shouldn’t be thinking about babies and marriage yet.
Honestly, I think that's all fundie religions, you can even look at families like the Duggars, Bates, etc. all they care about is having a lot of children. Why do they do that? idk, it doesn't make sense to you or me but they disguise it under "children are a blessing from god" but honestly, I think they just want to have a lot of kids to spread their religion, thus making their small religion bigger. Its sad though, because you look at the Duggar girls, most of them have kids already at a young age and haven't gotten a chance to enjoy life, and grow. Even though she annoys me, I feel bad for shari, even if she were to become a lawyer, she'd be focused on her family pressuring her to have kids.
I'm holding out hope that at least one of the Duggar girls either only has like 4 kids or none
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The Duggar's religion is explicitly about growing their congregation. Something about keeping your quiver of arrows full to build an army on earth to fight for righteousness or something. I don't think Mormons are that explicit about their reasons, but I have definitely seen it suggested that they push uncontrolled procreation to strengthen their numbers, only more centered on padding the nest egg of billions by increasing sources of tithing. I think it is presented to members as a requirement to become a god of your own planet when you die, which appears to be the ultimate goal in the religion. It seems everything they do in life is in order to be rewarded upon death. I'd probably get married at 18 and birth a football team too, if I believed I'd live alone in eternal damnation while my friends/family lived in paradise as literal gods. Just to build a hateful army though? Probably not.
I am really jealous of the poster above who has a Mormon friend to discuss these things with. Let us know the actual answer to this if they have one! I suspect the Griffiths are a terrible representation of the actual faith.
-------------------------------------------- OFF-TOPIC DUGGAR TALK, SORRY I don't know if you have kept up with the Duggars, but the kids have already rebelled. The oldest girl Jana is now 30 and single, rumored to be involved with her "best friend". Jill , the second oldest, has stalled at 2 kids for years. She was kicked out of the family hustle, wears pants, has a nose ring and speaks out against their Dad essentially stealing all their TLC money. Jinger was the first to wear pants, move away from home, and labor in a hospital. It was years before she conceived her only baby and is rumored to use birth control. So far only Jessa and Joy are spitting out kids like Mom and towing the quiverfull line. There has been speculation that Joy had to submit to a shotgun wedding when she was impregnated by her older husband and is currently suffering from abuse. If any of this is true, she might eventually sabotage the quiverfull mission just to limit the fallout. Also some of the boys delayed marriage and dated normally, even selecting a wife with a secondary education and "allowing" her to work.
I think the unique mix of abuse/dysfunction/exposure in the Duggar house really did a number on those kids and their blind faith. I don't think the Griffiths girls have had quite the same experience, which is a double edged sword. No horrific sexual abuse (hopefully) to expose "the man behind the curtain", but enough dysfunction and isolation to keep them grinding away at a life they don't want.
I noticed most kids in mega families raised with a sense of free will usually choose a different life for themselves. None of the Brown kids chose polygamy, the oldest kids of that UK family with 22 (Radford?) aren't following suit, etc. The Griffiths kids are not generally allowed to exercise free will, nor are they permitted any outside influences. So I think it is likely most will follow the path their parents/religion sets for them. I noticed that all the Griffiths kids that stopped procreating have tied it to a medical need. Is any form of elective family planning frowned upon? Did Grandma Griff have a medical issue that limited her to 5 kids? It seems like Ruby nearly killed herself ensuring she birthed more kids than her mother.
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Honestly, I think that's all fundie religions, you can even look at families like the Duggars, Bates, etc. all they care about is having a lot of children. Why do they do that? idk, it doesn't make sense to you or me but they disguise it under "children are a blessing from god" but honestly, I think they just want to have a lot of kids to spread their religion, thus making their small religion bigger. Its sad though, because you look at the Duggar girls, most of them have kids already at a young age and haven't gotten a chance to enjoy life, and grow. Even though she annoys me, I feel bad for shari, even if she were to become a lawyer, she'd be focused on her family pressuring her to have kids.
I'm holding out hope that at least one of the Duggar girls either only has like 4 kids or none
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The Duggar's religion is explicitly about growing their congregation. Something about keeping your quiver of arrows full to build an army on earth to fight for righteousness or something. I don't think Mormons are that explicit about their reasons, but I have definitely seen it suggested that they push uncontrolled procreation to strengthen their numbers, only more centered on padding the nest egg of billions by increasing sources of tithing. I think it is presented to members as a requirement to become a god of your own planet when you die, which appears to be the ultimate goal in the religion. It seems everything they do in life is in order to be rewarded upon death. I'd probably get married at 18 and birth a football team too, if I believed I'd live alone in eternal damnation while my friends/family lived in paradise as literal gods. Just to build a hateful army though? Probably not.
I am really jealous of the poster above who has a Mormon friend to discuss these things with. Let us know the actual answer to this if they have one! I suspect the Griffiths are a terrible representation of the actual faith.
-------------------------------------------- OFF-TOPIC DUGGAR TALK, SORRY I don't know if you have kept up with the Duggars, but the kids have already rebelled. The oldest girl Jana is now 30 and single, rumored to be involved with her "best friend". Jill , the second oldest, has stalled at 2 kids for years. She was kicked out of the family hustle, wears pants, has a nose ring and speaks out against their Dad essentially stealing all their TLC money. Jinger was the first to wear pants, move away from home, and labor in a hospital. It was years before she conceived her only baby and is rumored to use birth control. So far only Jessa and Joy are spitting out kids like Mom and towing the quiverfull line. There has been speculation that Joy had to submit to a shotgun wedding when she was impregnated by her older husband and is currently suffering from abuse. If any of this is true, she might eventually sabotage the quiverfull mission just to limit the fallout. Also some of the boys delayed marriage and dated normally, even selecting a wife with a secondary education and "allowing" her to work.
I think the unique mix of abuse/dysfunction/exposure in the Duggar house really did a number on those kids and their blind faith. I don't think the Griffiths girls have had quite the same experience, which is a double edged sword. No horrific sexual abuse (hopefully) to expose "the man behind the curtain", but enough dysfunction and isolation to keep them grinding away at a life they don't want.
I noticed most kids in mega families raised with a sense of free will usually choose a different life for themselves. None of the Brown kids chose polygamy, the oldest kids of that UK family with 22 (Radford?) aren't following suit, etc. The Griffiths kids are not generally allowed to exercise free will, nor are they permitted any outside influences. So I think it is likely most will follow the path their parents/religion sets for them. I noticed that all the Griffiths kids that stopped procreating have tied it to a medical need. Is any form of elective family planning frowned upon? Did Grandma Griff have a medical issue that limited her to 5 kids? It seems like Ruby nearly killed herself ensuring she birthed more kids than her mother.
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I think Bonnie alluded to having an IUD and Ellie mentioned birth control in their first TTC videos. Ruby said she had to have hemorrhoid surgery and basically her entire bowels redone after Russell. But, she made sure to have 6 and went on to have Eve. I always felt like Ruby made a point to have more kids than her mother. It was said in a vlog that her mother, Jennifer, could barely walk when she was pregnant with Ellie, so I think that is why they stopped at 5.
Do you think the private school the kids go too allows girls to wear pants if they wanted or are they crazy brand of religious Mormon that wouldn't allow women to wear pants not skirts? Just had this thought watching an old back to school video
SwiftlyD wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:47 pm
Do you think the private school the kids go too allows girls to wear pants if they wanted or are they crazy brand of religious Mormon that wouldn't allow women to wear pants not skirts? Just had this thought watching an old back to school video
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The published school policy does not permit pants for girls.
