Tannerites/YAWI: Failing our kids as they fail homeschool | Part 2

[Lolislol26]

Canyon is 4, why is he still drinking from a sippy cup

Same reason he isn’t potty trained and can’t sleep alone.

[Lolislol26]

All of the kids are/were significantly behind in school. Daniell and Sarah bickered about which would be better, home school or public school. When are they going to realize that their behaviors and lack of parenting DOES affect the kids?! Sarah said she’d be more involved this semester. Did they not learn anything when just Daniell was in home school?!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Kattiness Everdeen]

Canyon is 4, why is he still drinking from a sippy cup

He will turn 5 in a week. I am more concerned that he still craps in a diaper, communicates and tantrums like a toddler, and can't sleep in a bed alone. If there isn't a hidden medical need behind all of this, his parents should be ashamed.

In today's vlog Sarah actually takes responsibility for ignoring Lizzy and Savannah and their failure in homeschool, although it sounded like it might have come from a reprimand from Johnny. He was responsible for the kids' school for the first time ever when Sarah went to their old home with the teens, and discovered they were all cheating/failing/behind. I guess raising the kids isn't Johnny's responsibility. Of course Daniell's homeschool failures are still Daniell's fault. Sarah said she focused all her time on Az, but it was revealed that he was also VERY behind as well, cramming with the rest of the kids as the term deadlines approached that day.

I'd like to hope this means they will cut back on their 24/7 couple time & monthly vacations, but I doubt that. I wondered if they will put the kids back in public school now that they realize they still have to parent, but Sarah was discouraging Daniell from going back when she said she needed someone to get help from when completing assignments. Daniell is just parroting Johnny's attitude that school is useless, which they are too stupid to recognize. I am not surprised that she thought a D was acceptable. This thread title couldn't be more appropriate.

[Lolislol26]

Canyon is 4, why is he still drinking from a sippy cup

He will turn 5 in a week. I am more concerned that he still craps in a diaper, communicates and tantrums like a toddler, and can't sleep in a bed alone. If there isn't a hidden medical need behind all of this, his parents should be ashamed.

In today's vlog Sarah actually takes responsibility for ignoring Lizzy and Savannah and their failure in homeschool, although it sounded like it might have come from a reprimand from Johnny. He was responsible for the kids' school for the first time ever when Sarah went to their old home with the teens, and discovered they were all cheating/failing/behind. I guess raising the kids isn't Johnny's responsibility. Of course Daniell's homeschool failures are still Daniell's fault. Sarah said she focused all her time on Az, but it was revealed that he was also VERY behind as well, cramming with the rest of the kids as the term deadlines approached that day.

I'd like to hope this means they will cut back on their 24/7 couple time & monthly vacations, but I doubt that. I wondered if they will put the kids back in public school now that they realize they still have to parent, but Sarah was discouraging Daniell from going back when she said she needed someone to get help from when completing assignments. Daniell is just parroting Johnny's attitude that school is useless, which they are too stupid to recognize. I am not surprised that she thought a D was acceptable. This thread title couldn't be more appropriate.

The thing that stood out to me and what I wish was explained a little more was when Sarah said that they were doing enough work to get to “play” but weren’t completing all of it. Was someone checking the amount of they were doing? How was it determined they did enough to play? Was it what Savannah and Lizzie decided was acceptable?

If you want your kids to be in charge of themselves and independent why not make some rules and follow through?!

I could see a rule of you have to complete your work by Thursday evening, if that whole week is complete and there’s nothing past due, with good grades you don’t have to do school on Friday and during the weekend. If everything is complete you have to spend Friday completing work/ studying. If everything isn’t finished on Friday then you can’t play all weekend. They take life too care free and too much by the day. They don’t plan or anything and that’s why their constantly in the situations they’re always in.

They wanted to homeschool so they could do things on their time and now look! Also, it really bothers me that they don’t even utilize their homeschool room.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

Canyon is 4, why is he still drinking from a sippy cup

He will turn 5 in a week. I am more concerned that he still craps in a diaper, communicates and tantrums like a toddler, and can't sleep in a bed alone. If there isn't a hidden medical need behind all of this, his parents should be ashamed.

In today's vlog Sarah actually takes responsibility for ignoring Lizzy and Savannah and their failure in homeschool, although it sounded like it might have come from a reprimand from Johnny. He was responsible for the kids' school for the first time ever when Sarah went to their old home with the teens, and discovered they were all cheating/failing/behind. I guess raising the kids isn't Johnny's responsibility. Of course Daniell's homeschool failures are still Daniell's fault. Sarah said she focused all her time on Az, but it was revealed that he was also VERY behind as well, cramming with the rest of the kids as the term deadlines approached that day.

I'd like to hope this means they will cut back on their 24/7 couple time & monthly vacations, but I doubt that. I wondered if they will put the kids back in public school now that they realize they still have to parent, but Sarah was discouraging Daniell from going back when she said she needed someone to get help from when completing assignments. Daniell is just parroting Johnny's attitude that school is useless, which they are too stupid to recognize. I am not surprised that she thought a D was acceptable. This thread title couldn't be more appropriate.

The thing that stood out to me and what I wish was explained a little more was when Sarah said that they were doing enough work to get to “play” but weren’t completing all of it. Was someone checking the amount of they were doing? How was it determined they did enough to play? Was it what Savannah and Lizzie decided was acceptable?

If you want your kids to be in charge of themselves and independent why not make some rules and follow through?!

I could see a rule of you have to complete your work by Thursday evening, if that whole week is complete and there’s nothing past due, with good grades you don’t have to do school on Friday and during the weekend. If everything is complete you have to spend Friday completing work/ studying. If everything isn’t finished on Friday then you can’t play all weekend. They take life too care free and too much by the day. They don’t plan or anything and that’s why their constantly in the situations they’re always in.

They wanted to homeschool so they could do things on their time and now look! Also, it really bothers me that they don’t even utilize their homeschool room.

They talked about some of it. Lizzy for example learned that she didn't have to read any of the books and could get a passing score by just guessing answers on all the assessments. As long as the virtual "teacher" has a passing grade recorded, it was "acceptable". Honestly I get the feeling that is the way most "YT homeschool" kids do it. Annie from Bratayley is often seen doing similar, but also uses her parents, friends or 'Alexa' to answer the questions for her. She sees nothing wrong with the fact that she announces she hasn't read a book in years, and she is in high school.

It sounded like Daniell was doing the work, but just the bare minimum to get by which was decided not to be enough for her parents....on the last day of school. They made it sound like Savannah wasn't doing her math work at all, which seems strange for her personality. I wonder if she actually failed a final math assessment, was caught blatantly cheating by the teacher, or similar and had to start over. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they chose homeschool for the little perks like being able to easily cheat your way through it if you have a video to film or Disney passes burning a hole in your pocket. If Savannah wasn't turning in any work, the teacher at most home schools would be responsible for contacting the parent. That is what happened to Annie of Bratatyley. They used to keep a close eye on Daniell's daily assignments/grade to control her privileges; it seems like an insane 180 now to not check to see if their kids did any work all semester until the very end.

Based on the vlogs, I'd guess Sarah was fine with the cheating/procrastinating as it made her life easier and Johnny had the crisis of conscience when he was left home the previous week to see the laziness and deceit she fostered. Or they just got caught cheating. This isn't meant to be an endorsement of Johnny, he should have been responsible for the kids from day 1 himself, especially as a stay at home parent. Daniell is what, 16 now? How is it possible that she didn't know her parents wouldn't accept a 'D' until the last day of the last term? And what kind of school is this where you can just redo any assessment until you get the grade you want? I don't know how every homeschool kid wouldn't have straight A's....Sarah and Johnny have to be the lazyiest idiots on YouTube to have all 5 struggling to pass.

[MelE]

After today’s video, “ramen noodles” doesn’t even sound like real words anymore.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Lolislol26]

I’ll never understand why this family writes so many notes to stick on doors. Also, why the hell didn’t Sarah just clean the dog and his kennel up!? Why put a note on a door telling the kids not to open it until Allie has washed the dog. Wtf is wrong with this family.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Kattiness Everdeen]

I’ll never understand why this family writes so many notes to stick on doors. Also, why the hell didn’t Sarah just clean the dog and his kennel up!? Why put a note on a door telling the kids not to open it until Allie has washed the dog. Wtf is wrong with this family.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Because the parents are selfish immature children whose priority is their own enjoyment and relaxation. That is why the kids are responsible for almost all of the cooking, cleaning, childcare and schooling. Another vacation just days after their kids nearly failed out of school? Sounds reasonable. I guess this is what can happen to teen parents that get married after a 24 hr engagement. Arrested development.

I used to think Sarah was just as cruel and selfish as Johnny, but they are starting to paint a picture of Johnny also treating her like an employee/child that can't do anything right, chastising her for not following through on her (admittedly limited) responsibilities. She was so quick to try and defend herself when Johnny was complaining about not teaching the kids their performance song until the last minute. I get the impression that he is a raging nightmare when the camera is off.

[Lolislol26]

I’ll never understand why this family writes so many notes to stick on doors. Also, why the hell didn’t Sarah just clean the dog and his kennel up!? Why put a note on a door telling the kids not to open it until Allie has washed the dog. Wtf is wrong with this family.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Because the parents are selfish immature children whose priority is their own enjoyment and relaxation. That is why the kids are responsible for almost all of the cooking, cleaning, childcare and schooling. Another vacation just days after their kids nearly failed out of school? Sounds reasonable. I guess this is what can happen to teen parents that get married after a 24 hr engagement. Arrested development.

I used to think Sarah was just as cruel and selfish as Johnny, but they are starting to paint a picture of Johnny also treating her like an employee/child that can't do anything right, chastising her for not following through on her (admittedly limited) responsibilities. She was so quick to try and defend herself when Johnny was complaining about not teaching the kids their performance song until the last minute. I get the impression that he is a raging nightmare when the camera is off.

Or when Johnny was complaining about how it would be easier to have a basket of socks rather then matching them and folding them. He was trying to get Bransons opinion and completely disregarded anyone else.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

Or when Johnny was complaining about how it would be easier to have a basket of socks rather then matching them and folding them. He was trying to get Bransons opinion and completely disregarded anyone else.

Yeah, they definitely place more importance on the opinions of men, but that isn't all that surprising in a patriarchal religion where their Heavenly Father only delegates his power to people who have a penis. Maybe he wanted Branson to provide a patriarchal blessing regarding the sock problem? I know Ruby from 8 Passengers prays for HF to advise her how to organize her closet. I get skeeved out by these families where the father makes all the clothing choices for his daughters as well. Does Allie REALLY believe her Johnny chooses the best dresses, or his opinion the only one that is recognized in the house?

Also, have either Sarah or Johnny completed more than a Middle School education? I can't remember if Sarah dropped out when she got pregnant. I think I remember Johnny telling Allie he never graduated high school, but I don't remember Sarah mentioning it. There is another reason why they should let Daniell go to a brick and mortar school. I'd be surprised if either of them could even manage elementary school long division. Maybe that is why they only help Az with school; they aren't aren't lazy and careless, just ignorant and poorly educated?

----------------------------------------
OFF-TOPIC (Sorry)
Does anyone know how the LDS church views their intersex members (statistically, about 5 should be born into each congregation)? Are they entitled to the priesthood because they have a Y chromosome, or does the additional X chromosome prevent them from being recognized? How does the church know, are medical records required for a temple recommend? The LDS website specifies that sex/gender is independent from the physical world on earth and predestined, despite being categorized at birth based on physical development.

So if intersex Mormons are expected to "choose" a sex/gender independent their non-binary genetics and genital development, why aren't transgender individuals permitted the same "choice" if their gender is not defined by the physical world? Can't any member simply let their Bishop know that they prayed about it and were advised of their intended/predestined gender? (I am fully aware it isn't a "choice" from a scientific perspective, but the LDS church forces a binary identification of its members that is in direct conflict with scientific/DNA evidence of the biologically non-binary)

I really hope I meet a really great Mormon friend one day, because I am fascinated by their stringent belief system and how it is adapted with our 2020 knowledge of the world. I also know these YT families really set a bad example for their entire community and would love to know how it all really works.
------------------------------------------------

[ThisIsMeCeej]

I am so tired of hearing about the dang cellphones being taken away! By now I think both Alli and Daniell have earned them, and not to be taken away, because "we pay for them". Those girls raise your damn kids you pompous assholes, because you're both too busy on stupid trips and other selfish things and wasting money you earned off your kids! I think they deserve to have a cellphone and have it paid for and not taken away every other dang day! Sure, Daniell should have some rules like... it was shocking to hear she was on facet time wearing no shirt... but, who even knows if that was all true or not. But, "have your phone plugged in at 9" uhm... that's a bit early... why not it be 11?? And why does Alli have to do it at all? She's 18. I highly doubt if Branson hadn't bought his own phone, that they would make him plug his phone in at 9... so, wtf?

[Kattiness Everdeen]

I am so tired of hearing about the dang cellphones being taken away! By now I think both Alli and Daniell have earned them, and not to be taken away, because "we pay for them". Those girls raise your damn kids you pompous assholes, because you're both too busy on stupid trips and other selfish things and wasting money you earned off your kids! I think they deserve to have a cellphone and have it paid for and not taken away every other dang day! Sure, Daniell should have some rules like... it was shocking to hear she was on facet time wearing no shirt... but, who even knows if that was all true or not. But, "have your phone plugged in at 9" uhm... that's a bit early... why not it be 11?? And why does Alli have to do it at all? She's 18. I highly doubt if Branson hadn't bought his own phone, that they would make him plug his phone in at 9... so, wtf?

Right! I feel like they are trying to gaslight both the girls and viewers at this point. I swear Johnny gave a speech around Allie's 18th birthday about how he was so relieved that he didn't have to police her cell phone anymore now that she is an adult. Then we were told Allie completed high school in December and applied for a job at Disney. Why does she suddenly have school and kid rules again? Did she fail her final exams and have to take another semester? That is the only possible explanation I can come up with, unless this video is from last year.

Maybe this video was just performance art. It did sound like a rehearsed speech, and we all know Sarah doesn't actually parent the kids.

[Notsure]

Mmm Ramen again. Big eye roll. “My kids just love ramen” um no thats called feeding ur kids cheap non nutritious food. I just hate how these parents since they were not patented growing up they are devil parents to their kids. Geez this whole family I would think would be the weirdos of the school. Even lizzy I’m like shut up sometimes. You are super annoying. Future molly Mormon A type personality. I don’t see them doing homeschool next year. Maybe they will finally register for public school on time. Homeschool is not for u guys at all! Just admit it.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

Mmm Ramen again. Big eye roll. “My kids just love ramen” um no thats called feeding ur kids cheap non nutritious food. I just hate how these parents since they were not patented growing up they are devil parents to their kids. Geez this whole family I would think would be the weirdos of the school. Even lizzy I’m like shut up sometimes. You are super annoying. Future molly Mormon A type personality. I don’t see them doing homeschool next year. Maybe they will finally register for public school on time. Homeschool is not for u guys at all! Just admit it.

Sarah obviously preferred it when she didn't have the extra responsibility of making sure the kids were getting an education, but Johnny seems to believe that home school gives them some freedom they don't have with public school for some reason. So he is either too stupid to recognize what a colossal failure it was, too stubborn to admit failure, or is enjoying the freedom/relief of eliminating his children's access to build relationships with peers and mandatory reporters. Which is a chilling thought. If these kids aren't returned to public school I certainly know what I will assume going forward. I mean they will have FOUR stay at home adults to raise Canyon, there is no other reasonable excuse left for forcing their 4 minor children to spend their lives isolated inside the house.

Also, I think Savannah really comes across as the standout obnoxious goody-two-shoes, not Lizzy. Lizzy has a quiet sadness kind of like Daniell, which may be due to the fact that she is generally overlooked unless it is her night to cook dinner or she was "responsible" for Canyon when he smeared his poop over the walls and set he house on fire (I kid, but I wouldn't be surprised). Her breakdown was so sad when they decided they were "too busy" to celebrate her birthday. Her breakdown about being forced to sleep in her bedroom alone while all her siblings slept together in the next room was even more heartbreaking. And troubling.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

And now they ruined the tooth fairy for their young viewers.

This family might not show much blatant mistreatment, but there are some small details that I just find strange. Like when Az broke the jar of pears and was stuck against the fridge on his tippy toes. Instead of moving Az to safety, Johnny made him stand like that forever as he slowly cleaned up the glass around him, quizzing him on the origins of food. It came off as a punishment. If his calves got tired he would have brought his heels down onto glass. Not to mention he said "Mom will HATE me for this". Don't most normal kids say "Mom's gonna be mad/angry"? Why do these kids think Mom hates them?

[ThisIsMeCeej]

And now they ruined the tooth fairy for their young viewers.

This family might not show much blatant mistreatment, but there are some small details that I just find strange. Like when Az broke the jar of pears and was stuck against the fridge on his tippy toes. Instead of moving Az to safety, Johnny made him stand like that forever as he slowly cleaned up the glass around him, quizzing him on the origins of food. It came off as a punishment. If his calves got tired he would have brought his heels down onto glass. Not to mention he said "Mom will HATE me for this". Don't most normal kids say "Mom's gonna be mad/angry"? Why do these kids think Mom hates them?

I don't know how to link your above post and this one together so, just know I am referencing both. I think Johnny is a DICKtator, in that house, and I am not sure if it's the Mormon religion, that makes him think that because he's male he's better than women... or it's just his mindset? But, he's just an overall asshole. He treats those kids and Sarah, terribly... to where, when they do something remotely off, they aren't sure how he's going to react... is that any way to live? The best thing Sarah could have done.. was when she was pregnant with Branson, and she and Johnny broke up.. they should have remained broken up. Sadly, there would be no Alli, Daniell, Savannah, Lizzie, Az, or Canyon... and I don't wish them to not be here. But, Johnny doesn't deserve to be the father of those kids. While, yes... a couple of the kids can be annoying, act childish at their ages... (if you grew up in their weird house with those parents... I am sure you'd be a bit off as well) ((not speaking to you Kattiness haha just saying to everyone in general)) all of those kids have the potential to be something great, I think if they get away from their controlling father. I honestly don't think all this "control" is coming from Sarah, at all. I think she's given rules, by Johnny... and she has to follow through with them. Maybe I am wrong on that, but... she doesn't seem like the hard-ass, controlling, mentally manipulating jerk, that Johnny is. I've seen her father, and he seems very crazy and fun loving and weird... I doubt he was at all like Johnny is.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

Agree that Johnny seems to be the dark cloud over that house. I am not a Sarah fan at all, but I now recognize that I have no idea what she is dealing with from Johnny behind the camera that could be causing her to be such a crappy mother. I thought that scene of Johnny getting frustrated that Sarah wanted to take a nap was so strange. Why do they have to be in the same space 24/7? Can Sarah not nap alone? It is all so strange.

I don't blame the kids at all. Whatever they are/do is a direct result of what is happening in their house. Literally now. Since their move to SG, their only influence is now their father/family. They seem unbelievably desperate for views now, click-baiting that woman without a uterus is pregnant.

So I guess Allie is not done with school after all?

[ThisIsMeCeej]

WHY do they have to say "yo" all the time?

[Lolislol26]

WHY do they have to say "yo" all the time?

And dude. It makes them sound uneducated and as if they can hold a conversation.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Kattiness Everdeen]

WHY do they have to say "yo" all the time?

And dude. It makes them sound uneducated and as if they can hold a conversation.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't think they can hold a conversation!

Did you see Branson's latest "project"? Spending 13.5 hours saying "Mr. Beast" 100k times without a break. Johnny was so proud of him. Almost like getting a college degree or working towards a professional career. It feels like I am watching a parody of vlogger families at this point.