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Randy replied to a tweet about cheating saying, “usually the one throwing out “my partner is cheating” is the one actually cheating🐸☕️
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So she admitted to smoking marijuana, whatever. But, I am curious, what is the driving laws with marijuana?

Where I live, it is illegal - even medically. And, they can test you for being high if you get randomly tested.
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I'm surprised she talked about the sex stuff in a video. She's said "why in the world would Hazzel ever know about it???" a few times in reference to it.. well now it's on her channel for Hazzel, her friends, whoever else to find. She has an ipad and is at an age where other kids do too. A verbal disclaimer for kids to not watch is never going to work, especially on a family vlogger channel they already watch.


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123789s wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:50 pm So she admitted to smoking marijuana, whatever. But, I am curious, what is the driving laws with marijuana?

Where I live, it is illegal - even medically. And, they can test you for being high if you get randomly tested.
I live in Colorado too and it's illegal to drive while high but very tricky to actually charge unless the person is smoking when they get pulled over. Since marijuana tends to linger in your system for a while they can't really use that to prove you were high while driving, there is also no way to quickly test someone without taking them into custody first.
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I’ve been watching here and there since she had sterling. She seems so touched out and just not in to him which I held my tongue because of Post partum depression and all that I didn’t want to jump to conclusions but today I watched a video and she mentions how she’s doing the cry it out method. So she just shouts on her ass and let’s her baby cry himself to sleep. I’m sorry but to me that’s disgusting I worth’s never do that to my children. She sounds sit there and just cry her self to sleep realizing no one is coming and see how she feels


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AriaRoseee wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:35 pm I’ve been watching here and there since she had sterling. She seems so touched out and just not in to him which I held my tongue because of Post partum depression and all that I didn’t want to jump to conclusions but today I watched a video and she mentions how she’s doing the cry it out method. So she just shouts on her ass and let’s her baby cry himself to sleep. I’m sorry but to me that’s disgusting I worth’s never do that to my children. She sounds sit there and just cry her self to sleep realizing no one is coming and see how she feels


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Oh jeez, please educate yourself on what the cry it out method actually is. You don’t just leave the baby to cry themselves to sleep. “I would never do that to my children” ...well good thing Sterling isn’t your child then right? For some kids CIO is the only thing that works and it’s not mean, it’s a process. She even mentions she did it with Hazzel and I’d say Hazzel is a pretty good and happy kid.
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AriaRoseee wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:35 pm I’ve been watching here and there since she had sterling. She seems so touched out and just not in to him which I held my tongue because of Post partum depression and all that I didn’t want to jump to conclusions but today I watched a video and she mentions how she’s doing the cry it out method. So she just shouts on her ass and let’s her baby cry himself to sleep. I’m sorry but to me that’s disgusting I worth’s never do that to my children. She sounds sit there and just cry her self to sleep realizing no one is coming and see how she feels


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Oh jeez, please educate yourself on what the cry it out method actually is. You don’t just leave the baby to cry themselves to sleep. “I would never do that to my children” ...well good thing Sterling isn’t your child then right? For some kids CIO is the only thing that works and it’s not mean, it’s a process. She even mentions she did it with Hazzel and I’d say Hazzel is a pretty good and happy kid.
No you just let your child sit in their crib alone and cry for a period of time then comfort them for two seconds then leave them screaming again. Then comfort them for less time then leave them screaming again. I’ve done the research which is why I chose not to abuse my child in that way. The only reason your child stops crying after doing this bull shit method for sometime is because they learn it doesn’t matter if I cry no one is coming to help me. You should do some research on how damaging it is. Or better yet don’t have kids if comforting your child is to much work for you.


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AriaRoseee wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:35 pm I’ve been watching here and there since she had sterling. She seems so touched out and just not in to him which I held my tongue because of Post partum depression and all that I didn’t want to jump to conclusions but today I watched a video and she mentions how she’s doing the cry it out method. So she just shouts on her ass and let’s her baby cry himself to sleep. I’m sorry but to me that’s disgusting I worth’s never do that to my children. She sounds sit there and just cry her self to sleep realizing no one is coming and see how she feels


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Oh jeez, please educate yourself on what the cry it out method actually is. You don’t just leave the baby to cry themselves to sleep. “I would never do that to my children” ...well good thing Sterling isn’t your child then right? For some kids CIO is the only thing that works and it’s not mean, it’s a process. She even mentions she did it with Hazzel and I’d say Hazzel is a pretty good and happy kid.
No you just let your child sit in their crib alone and cry for a period of time then comfort them for two seconds then leave them screaming again. Then comfort them for less time then leave them screaming again. I’ve done the research which is why I chose not to abuse my child in that way. The only reason your child stops crying after doing this bull shit method for sometime is because they learn it doesn’t matter if I cry no one is coming to help me. You should do some research on how damaging it is. Or better yet don’t have kids if comforting your child is to much work for you.


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Listen hun. It’s not abuse. It’s a way to help your child learn how to fall asleep by themselves. My oldest did it and my baby does it. Look at them now, they both fall asleep with no problem.


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AriaRoseee wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:35 pm I’ve been watching here and there since she had sterling. She seems so touched out and just not in to him which I held my tongue because of Post partum depression and all that I didn’t want to jump to conclusions but today I watched a video and she mentions how she’s doing the cry it out method. So she just shouts on her ass and let’s her baby cry himself to sleep. I’m sorry but to me that’s disgusting I worth’s never do that to my children. She sounds sit there and just cry her self to sleep realizing no one is coming and see how she feels


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Oh jeez, please educate yourself on what the cry it out method actually is. You don’t just leave the baby to cry themselves to sleep. “I would never do that to my children” ...well good thing Sterling isn’t your child then right? For some kids CIO is the only thing that works and it’s not mean, it’s a process. She even mentions she did it with Hazzel and I’d say Hazzel is a pretty good and happy kid.
No you just let your child sit in their crib alone and cry for a period of time then comfort them for two seconds then leave them screaming again. Then comfort them for less time then leave them screaming again. I’ve done the research which is why I chose not to abuse my child in that way. The only reason your child stops crying after doing this bull shit method for sometime is because they learn it doesn’t matter if I cry no one is coming to help me. You should do some research on how damaging it is. Or better yet don’t have kids if comforting your child is to much work for you.


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I dont have children but I'm studying child developmental psychology, and I'm in 3rd year which means im getting ready to start my dissertation and I'm actually going between doing it on the effect and impact of the CIO method and another topic.

Obviously I haven't done any real research yet but from my small pool of findings (used to see if it's a viable topic to write 5,000 words on), I've actually noticed that kids who were "abused" by CIO are actually happier as they grow up, whereas kids who were constantly comforted and cuddled when crying present more symptoms of anxiety as they grow, since (I assume) mummy/parent can't always be there to cuddle you and that's what coddled kids are used to.

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honeybear wrote:
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Blueberries wrote: Oh jeez, please educate yourself on what the cry it out method actually is. You don’t just leave the baby to cry themselves to sleep. “I would never do that to my children” ...well good thing Sterling isn’t your child then right? For some kids CIO is the only thing that works and it’s not mean, it’s a process. She even mentions she did it with Hazzel and I’d say Hazzel is a pretty good and happy kid.
No you just let your child sit in their crib alone and cry for a period of time then comfort them for two seconds then leave them screaming again. Then comfort them for less time then leave them screaming again. I’ve done the research which is why I chose not to abuse my child in that way. The only reason your child stops crying after doing this bull shit method for sometime is because they learn it doesn’t matter if I cry no one is coming to help me. You should do some research on how damaging it is. Or better yet don’t have kids if comforting your child is to much work for you.


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Why don’t you go sit in a dark room all by your self and just cry your self to sleep. Tell me how you feel! I won’t be putting my child threw that and that comes with strong recommendations not to do that bull shit by my sons pediatrician and Nuerologist. I hope you have good insurance to pay for your child’s therapy in the future
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pianogossiper wrote:I dont have children but I'm studying child developmental psychology, and I'm in 3rd year which means im getting ready to start my dissertation and I'm actually going between doing it on the effect and impact of the CIO method and another topic.

Obviously I haven't done any real research yet but from my small pool of findings (used to see if it's a viable topic to write 5,000 words on), I've actually noticed that kids who were "abused" by CIO are actually happier as they grow up, whereas kids who were constantly comforted and cuddled when crying present more symptoms of anxiety as they grow, since (I assume) mummy/parent can't always be there to cuddle you and that's what coddled kids are used to.

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Interesting that you came to that conclusion (so far). I have qualifications in Youth Work, and have also studied psychology, and the generally accepted theory seems to be that children who are left to cry it out are more likely to develop unhealthy attachment patterns. Children who feel secure and trust their caregivers are far more likely to be self confident and willing to explore the world than those who have unstable attachments. Add to that the studies of children in orphanages, who had minimal human interactions in their formative years, and the similarities in brain structure of those children when compared to children who had been physically deprived of nourishment (starved) - the consensus is that emotional deprivation is both physically and psychologically damaging. Remembering that there is a difference between codependency and a healthy attachment, it’s still fairly widely accepted that you cannot spoil an infant by comforting them when they cry. Healthy boundaries need to be put in place as children grow, but to imply that comforting a baby when they cry is “coddling” is concerning.


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No you just let your child sit in their crib alone and cry for a period of time then comfort them for two seconds then leave them screaming again. Then comfort them for less time then leave them screaming again. I’ve done the research which is why I chose not to abuse my child in that way. The only reason your child stops crying after doing this bull shit method for sometime is because they learn it doesn’t matter if I cry no one is coming to help me. You should do some research on how damaging it is. Or better yet don’t have kids if comforting your child is to much work for you.


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Get off your high horse. It's not abuse.

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Why don’t you go sit in a dark room all by your self and just cry your self to sleep. Tell me how you feel! I won’t be putting my child threw that and that comes with strong recommendations not to do that bull shit by my sons pediatrician and Nuerologist. I hope you have good insurance to pay for your child’s therapy in the future
Lol you're crazy.

Making your child learn to self soothe is an important skill. As long as they are fed, comfortable, etc, they need to learn that it is bedtime and time to sleep. They'll get the hint eventually. There is nothing to fear by being alone in their room.

If you come every time they cry, they realize if they dont want to sleep, all they have to do is cry. If you cater to your child every time they cry, then THEY become the boss and get manipulative.

Any who, I'm not replying to any further comments about this. You're actually insane and I cant entertain a conversation with you any longer

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honeybear wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:35 am
Why don’t you go sit in a dark room all by your self and just cry your self to sleep. Tell me how you feel! I won’t be putting my child threw that and that comes with strong recommendations not to do that bull shit by my sons pediatrician and Nuerologist. I hope you have good insurance to pay for your child’s therapy in the future
Lol you're crazy.

Making your child learn to self soothe is an important skill. As long as they are fed, comfortable, etc, they need to learn that it is bedtime and time to sleep. They'll get the hint eventually. There is nothing to fear by being alone in their room.

If you come every time they cry, they realize if they dont want to sleep, all they have to do is cry. If you cater to your child every time they cry, then THEY become the boss and get manipulative.

Any who, I'm not replying to any further comments about this. You're actually insane and I cant entertain a conversation with you any longer

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Well, this thread has derailed and I wasn't going to jump in but I might as well.

I have never "sleep trained" my baby. There have been a few times where I've let her cry for 2-5 minutes. Maybe even 10 minutes once, but never for a prolonged period of time. She is now eight months old and she generally sleeps through the night. Sometimes she wakes up once, but it's because she's hungry, and then goes right back to sleep again. She usually sleeps for about 10 hours straight. There have been a few times where it's taken her half an hour or so to go back to sleep, but that hasn't happened very often. I just can't let my baby cry. It's so sad to see her stand up in her crib and watch her clearly looking for me and crying real tears, and I just want to comfort her. Usually all she wants is to lay her head on my shoulder to fall asleep. We have a consistent sleep routine and she knows that night time is night time. She didn't need to left alone in her room crying for hours to learn this.

Parents need to go with what their heart says. If you really think your child needs to cry to go to sleep, then that's what you have to do. Sometimes my child does need to cry for one or two minutes without me comforting her to go to sleep. I can distinguish her sleepy cries from her distressed cries and know when it's okay to do this. But if you want to comfort your child each time they cry, then you do that and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Babies can't be spoiled, you know what they need, and if something doesn't feel right to you, change it! Or if it does feel right, keep doing it. I'm so tired of the mommy shaming. I know what's best for my child is to comfort her when she cries and she is a happy child and sleeps fine. No, she doesn't always sleep on my schedule/when I wish she would, but I'm not going to ask an 8-month-old to do that.
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honeybear wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:35 am
Why don’t you go sit in a dark room all by your self and just cry your self to sleep. Tell me how you feel! I won’t be putting my child threw that and that comes with strong recommendations not to do that bull shit by my sons pediatrician and Nuerologist. I hope you have good insurance to pay for your child’s therapy in the future
Lol you're crazy.

Making your child learn to self soothe is an important skill. As long as they are fed, comfortable, etc, they need to learn that it is bedtime and time to sleep. They'll get the hint eventually. There is nothing to fear by being alone in their room.

If you come every time they cry, they realize if they dont want to sleep, all they have to do is cry. If you cater to your child every time they cry, then THEY become the boss and get manipulative.

Any who, I'm not replying to any further comments about this. You're actually insane and I cant entertain a conversation with you any longer

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Well, this thread has derailed and I wasn't going to jump in but I might as well.

I have never "sleep trained" my baby. There have been a few times where I've let her cry for 2-5 minutes. Maybe even 10 minutes once, but never for a prolonged period of time. She is now eight months old and she generally sleeps through the night. Sometimes she wakes up once, but it's because she's hungry, and then goes right back to sleep again. She usually sleeps for about 10 hours straight. There have been a few times where it's taken her half an hour or so to go back to sleep, but that hasn't happened very often. I just can't let my baby cry. It's so sad to see her stand up in her crib and watch her clearly looking for me and crying real tears, and I just want to comfort her. Usually all she wants is to lay her head on my shoulder to fall asleep. We have a consistent sleep routine and she knows that night time is night time. She didn't need to left alone in her room crying for hours to learn this.

Parents need to go with what their heart says. If you really think your child needs to cry to go to sleep, then that's what you have to do. Sometimes my child does need to cry for one or two minutes without me comforting her to go to sleep. I can distinguish her sleepy cries from her distressed cries and know when it's okay to do this. But if you want to comfort your child each time they cry, then you do that and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Babies can't be spoiled, you know what they need, and if something doesn't feel right to you, change it! Or if it does feel right, keep doing it. I'm so tired of the mommy shaming. I know what's best for my child is to comfort her when she cries and she is a happy child and sleeps fine. No, she doesn't always sleep on my schedule/when I wish she would, but I'm not going to ask an 8-month-old to do that.[/quote]This was a good post and spot on.

The main point is: there are 800 different ways to parent, and the cool thing is that YOU get to choose what is the right way to parent for YOUR OWN children. And just because someone does something differently than you- that doesn't mean it is automatically wrong or abuse.

I think we are all just trying our best in this world and doing what we believe is right for our own circumstances and individual needs/personality of the child. And agreed, the mom shaming is just not right.

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storeynyx wrote:
pianogossiper wrote:I dont have children but I'm studying child developmental psychology, and I'm in 3rd year which means im getting ready to start my dissertation and I'm actually going between doing it on the effect and impact of the CIO method and another topic.

Obviously I haven't done any real research yet but from my small pool of findings (used to see if it's a viable topic to write 5,000 words on), I've actually noticed that kids who were "abused" by CIO are actually happier as they grow up, whereas kids who were constantly comforted and cuddled when crying present more symptoms of anxiety as they grow, since (I assume) mummy/parent can't always be there to cuddle you and that's what coddled kids are used to.

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Interesting that you came to that conclusion (so far). I have qualifications in Youth Work, and have also studied psychology, and the generally accepted theory seems to be that children who are left to cry it out are more likely to develop unhealthy attachment patterns. Children who feel secure and trust their caregivers are far more likely to be self confident and willing to explore the world than those who have unstable attachments. Add to that the studies of children in orphanages, who had minimal human interactions in their formative years, and the similarities in brain structure of those children when compared to children who had been physically deprived of nourishment (starved) - the consensus is that emotional deprivation is both physically and psychologically damaging. Remembering that there is a difference between codependency and a healthy attachment, it’s still fairly widely accepted that you cannot spoil an infant by comforting them when they cry. Healthy boundaries need to be put in place as children grow, but to imply that comforting a baby when they cry is “coddling” is concerning.


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Coddling was probably the wrong word tbh, but yeah I did find it very interesting as I was expecting to find the complete opposite. Though as I said this is only a test pool of subjects so I expect and assume the results will vary and change as and when things get expanded and looked into at another level. I definitely stand by the fact that CIO is not "abuse" though.

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What did you guys think of the video with Dann cooking?
I liked it, I like how Dann actually cleans and cooks unlike Randy. He seems to genuinely care of Haylee and Hazzel and wants to provide for them. It’s nice to see.


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Lolislol26 wrote:What did you guys think of the video with Dann cooking?
I liked it, I like how Dann actually cleans and cooks unlike Randy. He seems to genuinely care of Haylee and Hazzel and wants to provide for them. It’s nice to see.


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Honestly, at first i didnt like him but now i think he's ok. He's not the greatest guy out there but he's better than randy for sure. At least for now

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