8 Passengers: Spreading a Disease while Doing As I Please | Part #16

[SwiftlyD]

Ruby the fact that your kids don't /can't come to you when they're sad added to being a part of a super restrictive religion might not end well for anybody involved. It's not something to brag about on a video

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[Tiger27]

Ruby the fact that your kids don't /can't come to you when they're sad added to being a part of a super restrictive religion might not end well for anybody involved. It's not something to brag about on a video

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Exactly. And when asked how she felt after their “”heart to heart”, Eve said she felt even more sad! So your sad attempt psychoanalytical bullshit failed Ruby. You left your kid feeling worse off than when she started. Ruby was looking for a big reveal with that question to support her, where Eve couldn’t remember the content of their talk but was supposed to remember how it made her feel, Aka better. But it majorly backfired when Eve said she felt worse. So way to go Ruby, you failed your daughter when she just needed some basic love and reassurance. But her emotions aren’t your responsibility apparently, so who cares. Those poor kids.


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[cvntlord0606]

i don't know if i'm the only one who feels this way but since we found out Eve and Russell hadn't showered in a over a week, Shari and Chad don't shower after their workouts and Ruby does her hair so she doesn't have to wash it for 10 days, I can't watch their videos anymore without thinking about how bad they probably smell.

[Happy+Charlie]

Ruby is insufferable with her "the truth is......" in every vlog.

[rulatows000]

Ruby: I wake up at 6 am and just enjoy my bed.

Me: Get up at 6 am to take care of your kids, woman! Or at least take a shower. I'm sure you spend more than enough time 'enjoying your bed'.

[Happy+Charlie]

Ruby: I wake up at 6 am and just enjoy my bed.

Me: Get up at 6 am to take care of your kids, woman! Or at least take a shower. I'm sure you spend more than enough time 'enjoying your bed'.

It was just a couple vlogs ago, she was saying she's been sleeping in everyday and hasn't been making breakfast. Whether she sleeps in or "gets up before the birds," she's still too lazy to take care of her family properly.

[imoverit]

"I hate that I'm going to have to get a new couch next week because he's totally ruining my couch". Is she kidding? Stop the wet dog from rolling all over the couch then?? Do something, instead of just saying oh well Ruby gets a new couch I guess!!! And of course it's "my" couch. Also, Kevin's "dad bod" shirt is making me sick, that man is so obsessed with himself. The narcissism in this family is rampant.

[eloise92]

Why, now, or two weeks ago are there workmen in their home?!?!
I'm in the UK but no one except an emergency plumber has been inside my home (upstairs flat shower leak causing it to rain in my flat quite similar to Chad's experience!).

Utah has only reported 46 deaths but also low testing. It is still a global pandemic!

[Happy+Charlie]

Why, now, or two weeks ago are there workmen in their home?!?!
I'm in the UK but no one except an emergency plumber has been inside my home (upstairs flat shower leak causing it to rain in my flat quite similar to Chad's experience!).

Utah has only reported 46 deaths but also low testing. It is still a global pandemic!

and she had to be touching his phone. I really think they are of the thought that nothing bad can happen to them.

[Audrey3196]

Ruby’s sense that everything that comes into the house is “hers” is incredibly manipulative. Of course my parents paid for all the furniture and my clothes and toys growing up but my mom would have never told me that some toy she bought was actually hers and she’s just giving me access to it. It seems counterintuitive to teaching responsibility and how to care for your things. Having a sense of ownership over the laptop and cell phone I had in high school made me take care of them and acknowledge that it was my fault if I broke them. It’s an incredibly controlling attitude to tell your kids nothing actually belongs to them and Ruby can take it away whenever she sees fit because she was only “letting you use it”. Imagine living in fear that your mom will take away your things or make you share a room with a sibling if you don’t live up to her crazy expectations. She is so manipulative and just wants to control everything her kids say and do.

[natalka81]

Why, now, or two weeks ago are there workmen in their home?!?!
I'm in the UK but no one except an emergency plumber has been inside my home (upstairs flat shower leak causing it to rain in my flat quite similar to Chad's experience!).

Utah has only reported 46 deaths but also low testing. It is still a global pandemic!

and she had to be touching his phone. I really think they are of the thought that nothing bad can happen to them.

I'm in Canada. My friend had a huge plumbing emergency that involved a big flood and lots of damage. She had several workmen come into her home because there was really no way around it. Each time someone came in, there was a huge routine involving a series of questions, taking temperatures, masks, gloves- all of it. Finally she found a place she could go for a couple of days that wasn't being used- she didn't feel comfortable in a hotel. Our numbers are lower than Utah I think and still there seem to be way more precautions here. No way would people be coming in to do bathroom makeovers.

[Trip804]

Ruby’s sense that everything that comes into the house is “hers” is incredibly manipulative. Of course my parents paid for all the furniture and my clothes and toys growing up but my mom would have never told me that some toy she bought was actually hers and she’s just giving me access to it. It seems counterintuitive to teaching responsibility and how to care for your things. Having a sense of ownership over the laptop and cell phone I had in high school made me take care of them and acknowledge that it was my fault if I broke them. It’s an incredibly controlling attitude to tell your kids nothing actually belongs to them and Ruby can take it away whenever she sees fit because she was only “letting you use it”. Imagine living in fear that your mom will take away your things or make you share a room with a sibling if you don’t live up to her crazy expectations. She is so manipulative and just wants to control everything her kids say and do.

The only time my parents even used the letting me use it line was when I would drive and they’d say the cars were theirs but they’re letting me use it as in just because I have my license doesn’t mean I can go anywhere I want. Even when my sister broke one of our camping lanterns (from genuinely being careless on a trip with her friends), my mom told her she broke something that belonged to the whole family and should replace it so we can all enjoy it. It boggles my mind that Ruby believe she owns everything and everyone.

[fossilfinger]

Ruby’s sense that everything that comes into the house is “hers” is incredibly manipulative. Of course my parents paid for all the furniture and my clothes and toys growing up but my mom would have never told me that some toy she bought was actually hers and she’s just giving me access to it. It seems counterintuitive to teaching responsibility and how to care for your things. Having a sense of ownership over the laptop and cell phone I had in high school made me take care of them and acknowledge that it was my fault if I broke them. It’s an incredibly controlling attitude to tell your kids nothing actually belongs to them and Ruby can take it away whenever she sees fit because she was only “letting you use it”. Imagine living in fear that your mom will take away your things or make you share a room with a sibling if you don’t live up to her crazy expectations. She is so manipulative and just wants to control everything her kids say and do.

I think parents should have the ability to take something away from a minor if they're abusing it (i.e. looking up porn on a computer or harassing people on a phone), but that's more to actually protect them than to just have power over them.

My dad still does the "I own all your things" to me sometimes and I'm in my 30's and have my own house. He bought me groceries and then when he was visiting started eating a bunch of my food without asking, and then when I told him to stop because it was my husband's food, he said, "I have a right to eat any of this food because I actually own it since I bought it for you." He also recently asked me how much toilet paper I had left since he knew I ordered some last month (with my own money) and when I told him I still had a lot left, he said, "Oh, we'll just live off yours, then," without even asking me permission to take a few rolls. And he wonders why I don't like him. That's not a great way to relate to your kids. But I guess Ruby doesn't care because she doesn't want her kids to like her, because she doesn't want to be a victim mom.

[Happy+Charlie]

Ruby’s sense that everything that comes into the house is “hers” is incredibly manipulative. Of course my parents paid for all the furniture and my clothes and toys growing up but my mom would have never told me that some toy she bought was actually hers and she’s just giving me access to it. It seems counterintuitive to teaching responsibility and how to care for your things. Having a sense of ownership over the laptop and cell phone I had in high school made me take care of them and acknowledge that it was my fault if I broke them. It’s an incredibly controlling attitude to tell your kids nothing actually belongs to them and Ruby can take it away whenever she sees fit because she was only “letting you use it”. Imagine living in fear that your mom will take away your things or make you share a room with a sibling if you don’t live up to her crazy expectations. She is so manipulative and just wants to control everything her kids say and do.

I think parents should have the ability to take something away from a minor if they're abusing it (i.e. looking up porn on a computer or harassing people on a phone), but that's more to actually protect them than to just have power over them.

My dad still does the "I own all your things" to me sometimes and I'm in my 30's and have my own house. He bought me groceries and then when he was visiting started eating a bunch of my food without asking, and then when I told him to stop because it was my husband's food, he said, "I have a right to eat any of this food because I actually own it since I bought it for you." He also recently asked me how much toilet paper I had left since he knew I ordered some last month (with my own money) and when I told him I still had a lot left, he said, "Oh, we'll just live off yours, then," without even asking me permission to take a few rolls. And he wonders why I don't like him. That's not a great way to relate to your kids. But I guess Ruby doesn't care because she doesn't want her kids to like her, because she doesn't want to be a victim mom.

It does stink when a parent treats their children this way, it all boils down to respect. I had similar experience being told if I didn't like something, it was their house and I could leave. That's a terrible way to treat a child, who really has no where else to go. Hopefully, you realized this is not how to treat others, and you can change the pattern, I know I did.

Ruby does not treat her children respectfully, they give her respect now, because, as we know, she orders it and holds it over their head how indebted they are to her. I hope when they move out, at least one of them gives her a bit of rebellion.

[Ducklings4]

Question, if her over 18 year old had to move back home due to a pandemic, would she allow it?

[Happy+Charlie]

Question, if her over 18 year old had to move back home due to a pandemic, would she allow it?

If I remember correctly (anyone correct me if needed), someone made a comment on Instagram to the extent of how can you not allow your grown child to come back if needed, things happen, sickness, job loss, etc. Kevin responded with something like, they have to figure it out, they should not be coddled.

[Ducklings4]

Question, if her over 18 year old had to move back home due to a pandemic, would she allow it?

If I remember correctly (anyone correct me if needed), someone made a comment on Instagram to the extent of how can you not allow your grown child to come back if needed, things happen, sickness, job loss, etc. Kevin responded with something like, they have to figure it out, they should not be coddled.

Then my 23 year old should be happy I don’t subscribe to that mentality, she moved down here 7 weeks from NYC. She is working remotely and was told they may be working remotely until 2021! At least her roommate moved them both out of the apartment and she is saving on rent. Of course she will have to find a place when this is over.

[eloise92]

Question, if her over 18 year old had to move back home due to a pandemic, would she allow it?

If I remember correctly (anyone correct me if needed), someone made a comment on Instagram to the extent of how can you not allow your grown child to come back if needed, things happen, sickness, job loss, etc. Kevin responded with something like, they have to figure it out, they should not be coddled.

Then my 23 year old should be happy I don’t subscribe to that mentality, she moved down here 7 weeks from NYC. She is working remotely and was told they may be working remotely until 2021! At least her roommate moved them both out of the apartment and she is saving on rent. Of course she will have to find a place when this is over.

Madness!!!
I'm 27, I moved out 9 years ago. I rent a flat and live alone but if I'd wanted to go back to my parents so I wouldn't be alone then I could've! (I decided not to because my mum's health is very bad so I would need to be very careful).
My parents haven't coddled me or financially supported me but they have supported me in other ways! You can't plan for a global pandemic. If Shari was 2 years older then she'd have been at college and her dorm would be closed! If their child was on a mission then they would be home now. I'm sure 99% of those missionaries have gone back to their family home. So clearly the Franke's aren't normal LDS/ LDS in Utah to say after 18 their kids are out!
Also I swear Russell and Eve will be 19+ when they finish high school...

[imoverit]

Question, if her over 18 year old had to move back home due to a pandemic, would she allow it?

If I remember correctly (anyone correct me if needed), someone made a comment on Instagram to the extent of how can you not allow your grown child to come back if needed, things happen, sickness, job loss, etc. Kevin responded with something like, they have to figure it out, they should not be coddled.

It’s unbelievable to me the way these people throw around the word “coddled” (along with the rest of the American Right, if I’m being honest - same with “entitled”). It reveals a total lack of human compassion. Jordan Page does it too. The reason Kevin feels okay saying that is these morons truly think something terrible will never actually happen to them, such as something that would necessitate a child temporarily moving back in with them. They think the only situation that might happen is when the kid is being too lazy to earn their own money to have their own place. So ignorant.

[BanffBeezy]

Question, if her over 18 year old had to move back home due to a pandemic, would she allow it?

If I remember correctly (anyone correct me if needed), someone made a comment on Instagram to the extent of how can you not allow your grown child to come back if needed, things happen, sickness, job loss, etc. Kevin responded with something like, they have to figure it out, they should not be coddled.

I hope Kevin and Ruby never need help from their adult children in their old age. They're kids should simply say, "Figure it out. We can't coddle you."