Rash&Justin: Paychecks A & B are here at last, maybe now we can afford some grass | Part 28

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Oh I’m sure SOMEONE will correct me, but don’t all spinals and
Epidurals give you the shakes? It’s a side effect? Trashy had to make it aalllll about her anxiety. Child get some therapy!

The boys are easy to identify by their clear differences. One has sunken in eyes (noticeably smaller baby) Reuben and the other has a fuller face (and no sunken in eyes) Asher.

I've had three epidurals and have gotten the shakes from all of them - no shakes after birth. With the third my husband was finally tired of me saying I was fine and asked the nurse to bring me a few warm blankets and I was kind of shocked how well it worked to stop them lol guess I should listen to him sometimes

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[TwilightLies]

That annoyed me sooooo much! My younger daughter, Emma. My husband Justin. For real? We know their names!! Their names are in the intro. We know you only have one living daughter and what her name is.

And the whole boy mom thing? Uh hello!? You have a daughter, you aren’t a solely boy mom.

And her favoritism is ridiculous! Of course now she’s doing it on purpose.

I've had 3 miscarriages. If I eventually have a live birth, I'm not going to refer to that child as younger daughter or son. It's just weird and seems like she hasn't grieved her loss yet. I'm sure when my future kids are old enough to understand we will tell them about what happened before then but it won't be a frequent reminder.

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I’m sorry for your losses.

No one in my immediate family has ever had a miscarriage. But my aunt has. And I didn’t hear it from my aunt, I believe my mom mentioned it in passing. It just wasn’t something that was brought up.

Long time lurker, first time poster here.

I’m so sorry for your losses.

I really had to get this off my chest. By referring to Emma as her younger daughter, she is constantly pushing her into her stillborn daughter’s shadow. Which is super unfair and discredits all of the children she already had.

Some people try for years and don’t succeed. My grandma had multiple miscarriages, 1 life birth (my mom) and 1 late-term loss (the doctors did not believe my grandmother when she said she felt pregnant and didn’t test her even though she asked for it.) They deemed the chances of pregnancy small given her prior history and age. My uncle was way over his possible due date and died in the womb because of that and my grandmother was hospitalized to remove him from her womb. She never spoke about this and my mom told me herself years ago.

It took my mom years to get pregnant (we probably have fertility issues in the family) and she also had an ectopic pregnancy before she had me. Of course it hurts when she talks about it, but she never brings it up as she gave it a place years ago. She knew that it wouldn’t help her nor her children to dwell on.

Neither of them ever referred to their children as for example: “my third child” or “my second daughter”. Or even speak about their miscarriages/stillbirths like Rachel does. She really needs to go into therapy, because what she is doing is in no way healthy for her nor her kids. Mourning is understandable, but I feel like she keeps dragging it on and it might affect her kids as well, especially Emma.

[Haulnarse]

She never once addressed Brynn in that vlog.

She mentioned:
emma was the youngest daughter
two prior birth experiences
having a 1yr old at home
assuming she’d always be a girl mom

Not one mention of Brynn. Watching them now you’d never know they had infertility problems. Having had four babies in three years (yes one stillbirth), she can’t claim infertility anymore. Sorry but that ship had sailed. So what if they need ivf to get pregnant, so do millions of others and along with that there will be millions of others who dont have success with ivf. Ivf works for them, its worked 3/5(?) times for them - resulting in 4 babies- thats pretty good odds in my book? Not everyone walks into the first cycle of trying to get pregnant (naturally) and can get pregnant, it generally takes months.

They aren’t relevant anymore - they aren’t newly weds struggling with infertility, they aren’t military, they aren’t hip young Christian’s, they arent employed in some interesting career - they are lazy unemployed self entitled parents of three under 2. Thats it.

[Sunshineee9]

She never once addressed Brynn in that vlog.

She mentioned:
emma was the youngest daughter
two prior birth experiences
having a 1yr old at home
assuming she’d always be a girl mom

Not one mention of Brynn. Watching them now you’d never know they had infertility problems. Having had four babies in three years (yes one stillbirth), she can’t claim infertility anymore. Sorry but that ship had sailed. So what if they need ivf to get pregnant, so do millions of others and along with that there will be millions of others who dont have success with ivf. Ivf works for them, its worked 3/5(?) times for them - resulting in 4 babies- thats pretty good odds in my book? Not everyone walks into the first cycle of trying to get pregnant (naturally) and can get pregnant, it generally takes months.

They aren’t relevant anymore - they aren’t newly weds struggling with infertility, they aren’t military, they aren’t hip young Christian’s, they arent employed in some interesting career - they are lazy unemployed self entitled parents of three under 2. Thats it.

I don't usually defend Rachelle but as someone who is infertile (and yet to have a living child even with IVF), she is still infertile. Infertility is the struggle to conceive and not the struggle to give birth. I think she's a horrible infertile person though. She could really use her platform to educate people about infertility but I've never seen her do that. I don't even what her diagnosis is and the only reason I found her channel is because I was looking for IVF videos.

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[Haulnarse]

She never once addressed Brynn in that vlog.

She mentioned:
emma was the youngest daughter
two prior birth experiences
having a 1yr old at home
assuming she’d always be a girl mom

Not one mention of Brynn. Watching them now you’d never know they had infertility problems. Having had four babies in three years (yes one stillbirth), she can’t claim infertility anymore. Sorry but that ship had sailed. So what if they need ivf to get pregnant, so do millions of others and along with that there will be millions of others who dont have success with ivf. Ivf works for them, its worked 3/5(?) times for them - resulting in 4 babies- thats pretty good odds in my book? Not everyone walks into the first cycle of trying to get pregnant (naturally) and can get pregnant, it generally takes months.

They aren’t relevant anymore - they aren’t newly weds struggling with infertility, they aren’t military, they aren’t hip young Christian’s, they arent employed in some interesting career - they are lazy unemployed self entitled parents of three under 2. Thats it.

I don't usually defend Rachelle but as someone who is infertile (and yet to have a living child even with IVF), she is still infertile. Infertility is the struggle to conceive and not the struggle to give birth. I think she's a horrible infertile person though. She could really use her platform to educate people about infertility but I've never seen her do that. I don't even what her diagnosis is and the only reason I found her channel is because I was looking for IVF videos.

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She claims its male factor infertility (basically throwing justin under the bus), no offical mention of her end - despite having to have multiple surgeries for polyps (i think?) prior to transfers.

The thing is mens sperm quality changes frequently during their lives. So if she had no issues herself, she could potentially get pregnant naturally at anytime. Danielle and Adam Busby did ivf to get pregnant with their first child and the did IUI to get the quints as Adam’s sperm count and quality had improved enough to do IUI instead.

[Sunshineee9]

She never once addressed Brynn in that vlog.

She mentioned:
emma was the youngest daughter
two prior birth experiences
having a 1yr old at home
assuming she’d always be a girl mom

Not one mention of Brynn. Watching them now you’d never know they had infertility problems. Having had four babies in three years (yes one stillbirth), she can’t claim infertility anymore. Sorry but that ship had sailed. So what if they need ivf to get pregnant, so do millions of others and along with that there will be millions of others who dont have success with ivf. Ivf works for them, its worked 3/5(?) times for them - resulting in 4 babies- thats pretty good odds in my book? Not everyone walks into the first cycle of trying to get pregnant (naturally) and can get pregnant, it generally takes months.

They aren’t relevant anymore - they aren’t newly weds struggling with infertility, they aren’t military, they aren’t hip young Christian’s, they arent employed in some interesting career - they are lazy unemployed self entitled parents of three under 2. Thats it.

I don't usually defend Rachelle but as someone who is infertile (and yet to have a living child even with IVF), she is still infertile. Infertility is the struggle to conceive and not the struggle to give birth. I think she's a horrible infertile person though. She could really use her platform to educate people about infertility but I've never seen her do that. I don't even what her diagnosis is and the only reason I found her channel is because I was looking for IVF videos.

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She claims its male factor infertility (basically throwing justin under the bus), no offical mention of her end - despite having to have multiple surgeries for polyps (i think?) prior to transfers.

The thing is mens sperm quality changes frequently during their lives. So if she had no issues herself, she could potentially get pregnant naturally at anytime. Danielle and Adam Busby did ivf to get pregnant with their first child and the did IUI to get the quints as Adam’s sperm count and quality had improved enough to do IUI instead.

Sperm regenerates every 3 months so it can absolutely improve. I'm sure there's more to the story

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[Ld5]

I don't usually defend Rachelle but as someone who is infertile (and yet to have a living child even with IVF), she is still infertile. Infertility is the struggle to conceive and not the struggle to give birth. I think she's a horrible infertile person though. She could really use her platform to educate people about infertility but I've never seen her do that. I don't even what her diagnosis is and the only reason I found her channel is because I was looking for IVF videos.

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She claims its male factor infertility (basically throwing justin under the bus), no offical mention of her end - despite having to have multiple surgeries for polyps (i think?) prior to transfers.

The thing is mens sperm quality changes frequently during their lives. So if she had no issues herself, she could potentially get pregnant naturally at anytime. Danielle and Adam Busby did ivf to get pregnant with their first child and the did IUI to get the quints as Adam’s sperm count and quality had improved enough to do IUI instead.

Sperm regenerates every 3 months so it can absolutely improve. I'm sure there's more to the story

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Especially since she blamed his infertility on the Navy... since he’s not in the Navy anymore, his count should be better


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[Elliecat]

She never once addressed Brynn in that vlog.

She mentioned:
emma was the youngest daughter
two prior birth experiences
having a 1yr old at home
assuming she’d always be a girl mom

Not one mention of Brynn. Watching them now you’d never know they had infertility problems. Having had four babies in three years (yes one stillbirth), she can’t claim infertility anymore. Sorry but that ship had sailed. So what if they need ivf to get pregnant, so do millions of others and along with that there will be millions of others who dont have success with ivf. Ivf works for them, its worked 3/5(?) times for them - resulting in 4 babies- thats pretty good odds in my book? Not everyone walks into the first cycle of trying to get pregnant (naturally) and can get pregnant, it generally takes months.

They aren’t relevant anymore - they aren’t newly weds struggling with infertility, they aren’t military, they aren’t hip young Christian’s, they arent employed in some interesting career - they are lazy unemployed self entitled parents of three under 2. Thats it.

I don't usually defend Rachelle but as someone who is infertile (and yet to have a living child even with IVF), she is still infertile. Infertility is the struggle to conceive and not the struggle to give birth. I think she's a horrible infertile person though. She could really use her platform to educate people about infertility but I've never seen her do that. I don't even what her diagnosis is and the only reason I found her channel is because I was looking for IVF videos.

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She claims its male factor infertility (basically throwing justin under the bus), no offical mention of her end - despite having to have multiple surgeries for polyps (i think?) prior to transfers.

The thing is mens sperm quality changes frequently during their lives. So if she had no issues herself, she could potentially get pregnant naturally at anytime. Danielle and Adam Busby did ivf to get pregnant with their first child and the did IUI to get the quints as Adam’s sperm count and quality had improved enough to do IUI instead.

I had a polyp removed prior to doing IVF. The polyp was a result of using clomid for a few months first. Fertility drugs can cause all kinds of issues with the female reproductive system.
We conceived our son from our first IVF attempt and have had 2 subsequent natural pregnancies resulting in our 2 daughters. Our diagnosis was sperm antibodies, but these must have resolved!


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[Goodgirl]

She’s not infertile! She did IVF to get pregnant, but you can’t convince me they suffer from infertility.

She admitted in a vlog (I think it was one about her fertility journey) that she and Justin tried for 9 months and then lied and said they tried for 12 months because a fertility specialist wouldn’t see them until they’d tried for a year.

Justin had one or two sperm analysis (analyses?) several years ago and his count was low. Well have him tested again and I bet he’s just fine. Sperm count is not like egg reserve.

I wholeheartedly believe that they could get pregnant on their own if they tried properly. I mean, that means she’d have to have s e x with Justin, which is asking a lot, but it sure would be cheaper than IVF.


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[AliCat91]

They will always do IVF because

A. They have the embryos frozen

B. Rachelle isn’t going near that man for love nor money. They act like housemates than a couple. She can’t even talk about mature things.


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[Ld5]

I’m assuming because of the acne it’s Asher... but of course she does... there’s not even a picture with Reuben
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[Sunshineee9]

I’m assuming because of the acne it’s Asher... but of course she does... there’s not even a picture with Reuben
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She definitely saw this because she just posted one with Reuben

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[Goodgirl]

They will always do IVF because

A. They have the embryos frozen

B. Rachelle isn’t going near that man for love nor money. They act like housemates than a couple. She can’t even talk about mature things.


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Oh, I 100% agree. I just think they jumped to IVF before they needed to. They were 20 and 21!

And I have frozen embryos myself and would be strangely sad in a way if I were to get pregnant the old fashioned way because it would mean I would keep those embryos frozen longer/have to donate them. I think it’s normal to feel attached and connected to frozen embryos.


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[Ld5]

I’m assuming because of the acne it’s Asher... but of course she does... there’s not even a picture with Reuben
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She definitely saw this because she just posted one with Reuben

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I saw that... she’s not even holding him. Look at her hand!
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[Tweedles3]

I’m assuming because of the acne it’s Asher... but of course she does... there’s not even a picture with Reuben
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She definitely saw this because she just posted one with Reuben

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I saw that... she’s not even holding him. Look at her hand!
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This is so airbrushed, her toe thumbnail is gone. Why even do that, airbrush a baby? I don’t know what she’s trying to hide, she posted her other son with baby acne...unless it’s worse and she smoothed that out, too.


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[spicy_dreams]

Ok but Justin is literally getting uglier by the day. Dude bro your face cannot take the weight gain, get off your lazy ass and do some of the PT you claimed you desperately needed but haven't done. If exercising is too boring for your cave man brain, do some yard work, move furniture in/out of the nursery, something!!

[Haulnarse]

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[IVFwarrior]

She’s not infertile! She did IVF to get pregnant, but you can’t convince me they suffer from infertility.

She admitted in a vlog (I think it was one about her fertility journey) that she and Justin tried for 9 months and then lied and said they tried for 12 months because a fertility specialist wouldn’t see them until they’d tried for a year.

Justin had one or two sperm analysis (analyses?) several years ago and his count was low. Well have him tested again and I bet he’s just fine. Sperm count is not like egg reserve.

I wholeheartedly believe that they could get pregnant on their own if they tried properly. I mean, that means she’d have to have s e x with Justin, which is asking a lot, but it sure would be cheaper than IVF.


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It's people like these two that actually contribute to warped IVF statistics that give women with actual infertility false hope that's it going to work for them (and of course the IVF clinics are being deceitful too).

IVF can, in most cases, fully overcame low sperm count issues. Which is why they have had 3 live births from a single IVF cycle. Most women with genuine infertility struggle to have 1 live birth out of 3 IVF cycles.

You take male factor infertility out of the statistics, and the IVF success rate plummets. Very few women with infertility would relate to her story.

[hatinghannah]

Yay, you guys! Rachelle got a new sweatshirt that we get to see for the next 7 vlogs


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[feelingsnacky]

Yay, you guys! Rachelle got a new sweatshirt that we get to see for the next 7 vlogs


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She’s trying so hard to be Keren. We all know this, but idk it’s just sad. I knew the giant sweater as an outfit was going to happen soon.