8 Passengers: Spreading a Disease while Doing As I Please | Part #16

[rulatows000]

Around the 9:30 mark, Chad literally looks scared when he tells Ruby that the lights cost $80. I can only imagine what kind of face she made at him behind the camera that he started out laughing, then suddenly his faced dropped, and he was like, "Wait, no, no, no". If it's his own money than why should she care? I get teaching your kids responsible spending, but if he saved up and bought something he wanted, there's no reason for her to be mad about that. She should have been the one buying him lights anyways, considering all the money he makes her. Didn't she pay for Shari's paint for her bedroom wall?

Also her talking to Russell, "You should be excited you have a mattress, bedding, paint." What? Those are things that all of her kids should have, they are basic necessities, not this special treat that they should be excited about. I felt so bad for Chad seeing his entire pile of books on the floor and no bed frame, his room completely empty besides the lights, bed, and books. Seriously, if she can afford her remote control toilet and has time to remodel her entire house, she has more than enough money and time to buy her kids bed frames, desks, and bookshelves. Also made me mad that she was walking away when Chad was trying to calm her down and reason with her. He was rushing to finish his sentences and she's just walking away. He actually sounded really smart and mature about what he was saying. Lol, at fifteen he's a better life coach than Ruby will ever be.

[thefworld]

Did anyone catch Shari and Julie talking about switching schools? I thought Ruby was head over heels in love with the private school? I’ve also never seen a family change schools so damn much. From public to homeschool to private etc. I’m not sure why Shari would even want to change schools her senior year. I also would find it very very unlikely for a school district to accept students from another district.

Off topic but I moved once as a child (2nd grade) then stayed in the same town and school district until I graduated, my husband didn’t move at all and we don’t plan on moving out of the district our children go to. I could never imagine pulling my kids from one school to the next like Ruby does. I understand maybe military families are different or those who have relocating jobs, but not the Franke’s!


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I can imagine that they might not want/can't afford private school for all of them anymore? maybe the youtube money is drying up quicker than we thought.
that is for me the only reason they would consider going back to public school and not their precious religious school.

oh I moved like 12 to 14 times as a kids and had like 7 school changes.... i cannot recommend that. especially when your mom puts all of your life on youtube for the world to see.

[PumpkinHead]

"I refuse to listen to children who whine." I'm pretty sure she refuses to listen to them no matter what!

Is she really trying to say that Russell shouldn't be upset because he has a bed, paint, and a lamp?? Those aren't just fun decorations, they're necessities and something all the kids should have. I can't believe she has the audacity to lecture Russell about being grateful, or be angry about the lights, when she can't even bother to get Chad a bookcase or get beds for all of her children. I believe Shari's mattress is still on the floor, and when Ruby mentioned Russell's mattress Chad said that he doesn't even have a mattress. I went back to look, and it literally looks like he has a toddler-size mattress sitting on a twin bed frame. They have money to go on a million vacations and buy $1k+ toilets, but god forbid the kids have furnished bedrooms.

[Lorac75]

Anyone notice that Chad doesn't have a door to his room?

[Jamie Love]

"You were completely happy with your room until Chad got something" Ruby tells Russell. Yeah, Russell was happy when his room got a makeover and looked like a real room while the rest of his siblings still only had a mattress on the floor. Now the other siblings are getting to customize their rooms to how THEY want them, which Russell did not get to do, so he's realizing he got the short end of the deal. But he's 7 and doesn't know how to articulate that into so many words, so Ruby continues to think he's just acting spoiled or jealous.

Chad also says "I know it's not OUR room" to Ruby, referring back to when Ruby let everyone know they're all her rooms that she's just letting the kids use. Which is one of the sickest things she's ever told her kids. She refuses to talk to her little son for more than 5 to 10 minutes about an issue that's clearly bothering him? Chad's trying to get on her good side because he has to in order to survive, but it's only encouraging her in a bad way.

I'll let someone else try to tackle her saying Chad's taking counseling from the woman who's teaching her life coaching.....

Not (intentionally) defending Ruby but, Is she wrong though? Russell always acts this way when someone gets something he doesn't or the spotlight isn't on him. He had his chance for a bedroom remodel and he (presumably) let Ruby do what she wanted and didn't want input or didn't care. Compared to the other siblings, Russell has the best room in the house, while others are still sleeping on mattresses on the floor. He's jealous of 80$ LED lights, but his bedroom is bigger than his older brothers, complete with his own bathroom, which many adults paying rent/mortgage don't even have for houses they pay for. Don't you think that's kind of spoiled?

[Trip804]

I think going to a school out of district depends on the states rules. I petitioned to go to a different high school than my assigned one because it had classes I was more interested in. I was able to go because there were people assigned to go to that high school that petitioned to go to my assigned high school, so it was based on numbers. If chad was in high school, he should be able to continue going to that school even if they moved. I know where I live, if kids move out of district when in high school, they can continue going to their original high school, but the same doesn’t apply for lower school. It seems odd Shari would transfer for her senior year. It makes sense for the younger kids cause public schools generally have more resources for those of varying academic abilities.

[CandleSand]

Looks like Chad doesn't have a door to his bedroom either. Maybe I just didn't see it. Probably has to do with "not being by himself alone". I realize sometimes kids slam doors and get their doors taken away for a time, but I'd be so annoyed if I never had any privacy to just be by myself. That's how I recharge. I just need my own space to calm and rejuvenate myself. Without a door that would make it harder to have the peace I'd need. It doesn't make sense that with the amount of money they have, the kids bedrooms aren't fully furnished. Maybe it has sometime to do with they need to "work" for or "earn" the furnishings. I wasn't raised that way so it's hard for me to wrap my head around. I like the lights. They're cool. I just hope Ruby doesn't end up taking them away. Chad needs some happiness in his life.

While I think I might know why Chad got sent away, I don't think it needs to be talked about, really. I wouldn't want people to keep talking about me like that. I just feel bad for the boy. It seems like his self-esteem has gone way down since being at Anasazi and the fact that Ruby never lets him forget it.

[Audrey3196]

What I saw from this video is that Chad is very much maturing and is taking his counseling seriously. Is he going to behave like a teenaged boy? Of course he is, Ruby and Kevin can’t expect him to be an adult when he is very much still a child and still developing both in mind and body. His explanation of walking away from situations and then returning after you have calmed down and been able to think things through was a mature and thoughtful response. Ruby’s on the other hand lacked the insight and understanding of conflict resolution. Ruby talks at her children and once she’s done they will no longer bring the subject up. That shouldn’t be how it works and more patience is going to be required the younger the child is. Russell is eight years old, he is not a teenager, he does not yet have the ability to think through abstract concepts and Ruby has totally skipped over that.


It makes me really sad because it is obvious Chad is a different person from before Anasazi but Ruby seems to continually punish him for not being “perfect” and “a man” when he still has years of developing to go through. Ruby constantly tells people to adjust their expectations but clearly does not take her own advice.

[Audrey3196]

What I saw from this video is that Chad is very much maturing and is taking his counseling seriously. Is he going to behave like a teenaged boy? Of course he is, Ruby and Kevin can’t expect him to be an adult when he is very much still a child and still developing both in mind and body. His explanation of walking away from situations and then returning after you have calmed down and been able to think things through was a mature and thoughtful response. Ruby’s on the other hand lacked the insight and understanding of conflict resolution. Ruby talks at her children and once she’s done they will no longer bring the subject up. That shouldn’t be how it works and more patience is going to be required the younger the child is. Russell is eight years old, he is not a teenager, he does not yet have the ability to think through abstract concepts and Ruby has totally skipped over that.


It makes me really sad because it is obvious Chad is a different person from before Anasazi but Ruby seems to continually punish him for not being “perfect” and “a man” when he still has years of developing to go through. Ruby constantly tells people to adjust their expectations but clearly does not take her own advice.

[destroyedbythesun]

I didn’t hear the comment about switching schools, but if they are considering it i wonder if it’s again because Shari or the other kids just can’t seem to get along with the other students well enough. I think Abby and Julie as well as Chad would be better served by a public school that would cater to all skill levels instead of expecting you to perform at top level like their private school seems to. I’d love for them to go to public, what a slap in the face to Ruby and a win for Chad!

As far as going to a different district, where I grew up you could pay to do that, simple as that.

I'm honestly surprised that even Shari said she was considering moving to another school district. Not only because it's her senior year, but also because she made a whole video as to why she liked private school better then public, one of the big reasons being the teachers and students at private school were apparently "better" then the ones at a public school. Honestly, that whole video made her look like a snob and now the fact that she's considering moving back to public school is a joke. Sure it could be allowed if they payed a bit more, but the reason why they decided to do so is suspicious. As for Julie and Abbey, I think the reason they might move schools would have more to do with catering to their academic needs and not for the fact that they can't seem to get along with the other kids well enough. I think Julie and Abbey are pretty likable kids in my opinion, and so making friends would be no problem, but the academic rigor of a private vs public school would be different. Especially if they don't end up having Shari's teachers who would give her a boost in her grades in case she did bad on a test.

On an thread a long time ago when they made the move to private school it was revealed that they left because Shari couldn't get along with her fellow students. It was her controlling attitude which caused the few friends she had to stand up for themselves. Shari and Ruby took it as bullying and left the public school. Following that they made a video trashing the public school system and how they are better.

[ujvs_]

did anyone else notice that Chad didn’t have a bedroom door?

[eloise92]

I didn't get the impression from the video that Shari is changing school. But I did get the impression that Julie wants to (not surprised). It also crossed my mind that Eve's and Russell's awareness about being held back may have come from also potentially changing schools or realising that their same age neighbours are in higher grades.
Annual tuition at their school is
Elementary 1-6 $7680
Middle 7-8 $7980
High school 9-12 $9420

I'm from the UK and this is what private schools generally cost per term (3 terms per year). Though the school website does say "
Our tuition is also very different from comparable private schools, as our rates are 1/2 to 1/3 lower. Because all buildings and land are funded by generous private donors, and because we carry no debt, AHS tuition is half of what it would be otherwise."

I think Russell's behaviour is particularly 'off' when you bear I mind he is 9 in July.

In general I'm a fan of formal education starting later but that only works if play and socialisation happens in the early years (under 7). The Franke kids have not had a stimulating environment so...I think they should have been in pre-K and Kindergarten ASAP even if they actually started 1st grade at the same age, they needed an early years environment!

[emma2948]

"You were completely happy with your room until Chad got something" Ruby tells Russell. Yeah, Russell was happy when his room got a makeover and looked like a real room while the rest of his siblings still only had a mattress on the floor. Now the other siblings are getting to customize their rooms to how THEY want them, which Russell did not get to do, so he's realizing he got the short end of the deal. But he's 7 and doesn't know how to articulate that into so many words, so Ruby continues to think he's just acting spoiled or jealous.

Chad also says "I know it's not OUR room" to Ruby, referring back to when Ruby let everyone know they're all her rooms that she's just letting the kids use. Which is one of the sickest things she's ever told her kids. She refuses to talk to her little son for more than 5 to 10 minutes about an issue that's clearly bothering him? Chad's trying to get on her good side because he has to in order to survive, but it's only encouraging her in a bad way.

I'll let someone else try to tackle her saying Chad's taking counseling from the woman who's teaching her life coaching.....

Not (intentionally) defending Ruby but, Is she wrong though? Russell always acts this way when someone gets something he doesn't or the spotlight isn't on him. He had his chance for a bedroom remodel and he (presumably) let Ruby do what she wanted and didn't want input or didn't care. Compared to the other siblings, Russell has the best room in the house, while others are still sleeping on mattresses on the floor. He's jealous of 80$ LED lights, but his bedroom is bigger than his older brothers, complete with his own bathroom, which many adults paying rent/mortgage don't even have for houses they pay for. Don't you think that's kind of spoiled?

I see where your coming from. If this was Russel's first time complaining like this, I would also understand why he's a bit upset, but he literally always does this. Even on the other kids birthdays when they get gifts (as they should) Russell whines and acts like a spoiled snob because he didn't get a gift. Honestly, I've never seen a kid react like that to some other kid get a gift on their own birthday. Obviously he's still a kid, so in my opinion it's mostly Ruby's bad parenting if she didn't see this coming sooner from Russell and didn't handle it quicker. But still, Ruby needs to start reminding Russell how privileged and lucky he is that he was one of the first kids who got his room renovated. I doubt the other kids got anything extra or even the bare minimum added to their rooms, unless they pay for it themselves. I also bet Ruby is just making the older kids (Shari, Chad, Julie, and Abby) pay for their own room renovations since Ruby could honestly not be bothered about them, maybe this is why she's not been planning on doing a full house/rooms tour because then everyone would see the lack of furnishment in the kids room compared to her own room.

[imoverit]

I was thinking it’s especially strange that ruby hasn’t let the kids decorate or put furniture in their rooms because of how many views those videos would surely get, “room tours” and “shopping for my new room” type things. But then maybe she’s waiting for ad sense and view numbers to go back to normal so that she can get the most possible money out of them? That would be messed up... no matter the reason it’s messed up already that the kids’ rooms are bare when they make the (high) income for the family.

[Gnomefan212]

I’m glad chad was able to do something to his room that was his choice, I think he needed that for himself.
I get a bit why Russel was upset because his room sucks and has no cool fun stuff in it.
I have a few questions though
1) why don’t the kids have furniture ? They had furniture before and They have been in that house for what 3/4 months ?
2) where is chads door ?
3) where are these kids toys?! Russel and eve seem to not have any toys any more and that stinks. Children need enrichment

[Happy+Charlie]

I’m glad chad was able to do something to his room that was his choice, I think he needed that for himself.
I get a bit why Russel was upset because his room sucks and has no cool fun stuff in it.
I have a few questions though
1) why don’t the kids have furniture ? They had furniture before and They have been in that house for what 3/4 months ?
2) where is chads door ?
3) where are these kids toys?! Russel and eve seem to not have any toys any more and that stinks. Children need enrichment

The whole house lacks evidence of it being a "home." No photos out of the kids/family, nothing to show the families interest/personality (this speaks volumes, the adults have no personality). The time they have been home, limited schooling, one would think they could have finished unpacking and have plenty of time to get set up. I was looking forward to seeing how the common space as well as rooms were set up and decorated, but I should have remembered this is Ruby at the helm. They moved to this beautiful house and it is basically just a shell. Ruby said she loves colorful clothing, girl needs to put the effort into her house and make it interesting and more than just a box with windows. Gosh, even Grandma Griff has a few pictures on the wall and some nick-nacks out, though the best are saved for the bedroom closet.

So, when Chad was on the trail, he was able to go off on his own, but at home he isn't allowed to be alone? I wonder if he has a bathroom door, or someone has to stand and watch while he showers--how damaging for a young man.

[freshbalsam]

I know we were just talking about how Chad doesn’t have a bedroom door, but in the latest video, his bathroom door was also removed. This poor kid.


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[Alycat_2001_uk]

"You were completely happy with your room until Chad got something" Ruby tells Russell. Yeah, Russell was happy when his room got a makeover and looked like a real room while the rest of his siblings still only had a mattress on the floor. Now the other siblings are getting to customize their rooms to how THEY want them, which Russell did not get to do, so he's realizing he got the short end of the deal. But he's 7 and doesn't know how to articulate that into so many words, so Ruby continues to think he's just acting spoiled or jealous.

Chad also says "I know it's not OUR room" to Ruby, referring back to when Ruby let everyone know they're all her rooms that she's just letting the kids use. Which is one of the sickest things she's ever told her kids. She refuses to talk to her little son for more than 5 to 10 minutes about an issue that's clearly bothering him? Chad's trying to get on her good side because he has to in order to survive, but it's only encouraging her in a bad way.

I'll let someone else try to tackle her saying Chad's taking counseling from the woman who's teaching her life coaching.....

Not (intentionally) defending Ruby but, Is she wrong though? Russell always acts this way when someone gets something he doesn't or the spotlight isn't on him. He had his chance for a bedroom remodel and he (presumably) let Ruby do what she wanted and didn't want input or didn't care. Compared to the other siblings, Russell has the best room in the house, while others are still sleeping on mattresses on the floor. He's jealous of 80$ LED lights, but his bedroom is bigger than his older brothers, complete with his own bathroom, which many adults paying rent/mortgage don't even have for houses they pay for. Don't you think that's kind of spoiled?

I see where your coming from. If this was Russel's first time complaining like this, I would also understand why he's a bit upset, but he literally always does this. Even on the other kids birthdays when they get gifts (as they should) Russell whines and acts like a spoiled snob because he didn't get a gift. Honestly, I've never seen a kid react like that to some other kid get a gift on their own birthday. Obviously he's still a kid, so in my opinion it's mostly Ruby's bad parenting if she didn't see this coming sooner from Russell and didn't handle it quicker. But still, Ruby needs to start reminding Russell how privileged and lucky he is that he was one of the first kids who got his room renovated. I doubt the other kids got anything extra or even the bare minimum added to their rooms, unless they pay for it themselves. I also bet Ruby is just making the older kids (Shari, Chad, Julie, and Abby) pay for their own room renovations since Ruby could honestly not be bothered about them, maybe this is why she's not been planning on doing a full house/rooms tour because then everyone would see the lack of furnishment in the kids room compared to her own room.

Russell does tend to be a bit over the top (many kids get a bit dramatic at that age) but I think it is generally unfair for him. As Ruby is so controlling, he probably didn't even think that having his own say was an option. Then he sees Chad's lights and realises that it might have been, and then looks at his middle aged guest bedroom of a room and feels cheated. As others have pointed out, they don't even seem to have many toys, so every little thing is bound to be tempting.
As a kid I was always a part of the decision making process in decorating my room, even as young as four years old. Obviously my parents had a final say, but it was MY room and a safe space. It's so sad that they don't have anywhere they can feel like that.

[dontwannah8]

In the newest vlog, Eve seems a lot older which is interesting. I guess she is getting older, but she seems to be able to communicate better. But, that's not why i'm here (just a side comment).

I AM NOT AT ALL UNDERSTANDING THIS NEW NEED TO BUDGET BECAUSE THE SPENDING ON EVERYONE BESIDES CHAD DOESN'T ADD UP. Ruby mentioned how they were supposed to be going to Jerusalem this summer with the Tannerites (or maybe the Leroys, they were talking about both families at one point and she wasn't clear). Hey Ruby, Jerusalem is beautiful but you said you couldn't afford Disney trips... what makes you think Israel is affordable? I was there before all this COVID stuff and flights average at around $1000 which is also wasteful for small children who won't remember it. A place to stay, food, getting around, etc. is expensive. I think everyone should see Jerusalem, but i don't understand why she made a big deal about how "poor" they suddenly are if the spending doesn't match up.

Also: another Chad theory. I don't think he went to Anasazi for just one reason and i'm sure being a teenage boy in his room is one of the reasons due to the no doors (which is NOT okay, forgive and forget). But, because he has to buy his own things i'm assuming it could be spending/using Ruby's credit card without permission. Maybe it was just for food because she doesn't give him adult portions, maybe for a shirt, but regardless that would make sense because Shari who is older doesn't have to buy ALL of her own things. I bet Shari pays for some things she wants, but Chad is really on his own.

[Happy+Charlie]

Oh, no, Dwight is on the foyer rug eating, how much longer before he's confined to this space only, like Nollie.

I think the Jerusalem trip was probably only Kevin and Ruby, they aren't gonna waste a trip like that on the kids, it's too good for them.