8 Passengers: Spreading a Disease while Doing As I Please | Part #16

[Happy+Charlie]

I told her on Instagram that the reason her views were down wasn't because of the pandemic. That it was because she is a horrible mother and people are tired of watching it.

Over 1k dislikes should tell her something!! We're not a bunch of kids. I would never in a million years take away my children's bedroom from them. There's absolutely nothing they could do that I'd do that. I could go on and on about how horrible she is.

I can hardly wait for her video tomorrow telling us all how wrong we are and that she's doing the right thing. That woman is just as delusional as she is checked out.

She has already addressed it in her stories with Kevin. I'm guessing this is in lieu of a vlog explaining tomorrow.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

If you look in their tagged photos there are a lot of people working to call CPS on them. Normally I don't approve of people calling CPS based off of social media opinons, but in this case i do. It will be interesting how this all shapes up over the next few days or weeks.

I wonder what CPS would even be able to do? It's a sad situation.. those kids deserve so much better... like 90% of the kids on YT deserve so much better... then I think of what about the families we don't see on camera?

[chrisb332]

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/241532

If you go down to the emotional abuse section in this article. Ruby has admitted, or the kids have stated, that she has done almost all of these things.

[daisy4637]

Hello everyone. Long time watcher, however this is my first time ever posting on ytmd. Was on tik tok earlier and happened to come along with

[random5397]

I think Ruby has this whole "privilege" thing completely wrong, I don't know if she understands the concept of basic human rights. She's gonna instill the idea of "meritocracy" in those kids to the point where, if they see someone who doesn't have access to something, they're gonna think it's because they don't deserve it. Like if someone doesn't have a place to sleep it's because they did something wrong or "didn't work hard enough".

Just because there are people who don't have anything to eat doesn't mean that food is a privilege. It means the world is so messed up that these people don't have access to a basic human right.

[darkdaysdontshine]

Long time lurker here, sorry I just made an account so I can join in. I have to say I am appalled by yesterday's vlog and the Instagram stories. I won't go into all of my opinions, as a lot of the previous posts echo those but I wanted to address the Instagram Stories. Ruby says 'I'm an adult and if I showed up irresponsible around my home... around my vehicle... around my children, that thing could still be taken away'. Does not paying your bills so your whole household don't have water, or flooding the house (in particular chad's room), or burning the kitchen in the old house - not qualify for being irresponsible? because to me that puts people in a lot more danger than Chad's actions. The whole Instagram Story was very dismissive, telling people they are overreacting and that they'll use all the comments for a future video about outrageous views.

I sure hope they get what is coming to them. These kids deserve so much better - having no friends, no safe spaces just for them - I'm sure it would get exhausting but I understand why they go along with it, none of the others want to lose their beds! I just hope that they can branch away from Ruby and Kevin eventually.

[imoverit]

WOW. That string of Instagram stories was pathetic and repulsive. And having Kevin, worlds most arrogant and idiotic professor there made it so much worse. They are sitting up on their high horse looking down and seeing all of us as peasant children who are whining that their kids don’t get phones. Nope, wrong, not it. I think on Instagram it seems like a lot of the negative comments do come from children and that’s why Ruby feels so much power over the negative comments and able to dismiss them.
She said to keep the negativity coming because she’s using it all for content. What a stupid stupid woman. She’s trying so hard to act like it’s not bothering her at all but all of her words and actions are so clearly showing how deeply this is affecting her. She needs some serious self reflection. Those kids need better parents.

[Alycat_2001_uk]

If you look in their tagged photos there are a lot of people working to call CPS on them. Normally I don't approve of people calling CPS based off of social media opinons, but in this case i do. It will be interesting how this all shapes up over the next few days or weeks.

I wonder what CPS would even be able to do? It's a sad situation.. those kids deserve so much better... like 90% of the kids on YT deserve so much better... then I think of what about the families we don't see on camera?

Whilst her treatment of the children does qualify as abusive, it isn't to the extent that social services would intervene.

I think if I was in Chad's situation I'd feel like I didn't really have anything to lose and I might as well behave badly.

The army is going to be like a holiday for him.

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Sorry this is long and I’m just rambling. I’m just trying to understand and I’m not a child. I’m like two years younger than Ruby. I don’t have kids but I still babysit for friends.

So you mean to tell me Ruby.

You were making Julie and Eve share a room so you could have a room to film/a place to put all your Ruby do crap.

You know you only changed your mind because you would have been ripped to sherds when your viewers found out what the room was being used for.

AND then Chad wasn’t going to have a room at all ( it was saved for him??? ). Until you decided it was OK for him.

I want to know what professional told them that it’s OK to take your sons bed away for 7 months.

The three reasons that were given the only bad for me was a bee bee gun story.

[eloise92]

Ruby is also clearly unaware of context. Whilst I don't agree with Anastazi and I don't think that proper clinical psychologists and psychiatrists are involved...They don't have beds at Anastazi for a set period of time,/ known period of review. They are also camping and hiking.
I didn't have a bed on scout camps, it wasn't emotional abuse. (Scout camps are not the same as Anastazi but still).
Not having a bed in your own home *where there are beds available* for an unpredictable amount of time (i.e. indeterminate sentence) is very different and much more damaging.
I wouldn't agree with this necessarily but if they'd taken his mattress and bedding out of his room and had that somewhere else then I'd feel the tiniest bit more comfortable (not for 7 months!) but they literally kept a perfectly good bed and sheets from him too. Which is also really different from being in poverty.

They are talking such psudo science! The then justify it by saying that their kids are so well behaved etc. Yet they keep needing to do these things! When they went to BVI Russell and Eve went wild with technology because they thought well 'why not we're going to lose it anyway'. That's not what you want when it comes to kids learning to self-regulate!

[lrs-1992]

It’s funny, when i started watching family vloggers 5 years Ago, i told my boyfriend i liked watching it so i could learn things and apply them later in life When i would be a parent myself..

These days i watch maybe 10 % of What i used to. I watch them and all i’m getting from those videos these days is how NOT to parent.. Youtube makes all of these content creators absolutely delusional and its kind of sad! I do realise that the issues of the Griffiths women go waaaay back though..


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[Alycat_2001_uk]

Ruby is also clearly unaware of context. Whilst I don't agree with Anastazi and I don't think that proper clinical psychologists and psychiatrists are involved...They don't have beds at Anastazi for a set period of time,/ known period of review. They are also camping and hiking.
I didn't have a bed on scout camps, it wasn't emotional abuse. (Scout camps are not the same as Anastazi but still).
Not having a bed in your own home *where there are beds available* for an unpredictable amount of time (i.e. indeterminate sentence) is very different and much more damaging.
I wouldn't agree with this necessarily but if they'd taken his mattress and bedding out of his room and had that somewhere else then I'd feel the tiniest bit more comfortable (not for 7 months!) but they literally kept a perfectly good bed and sheets from him too. Which is also really different from being in poverty.

They are talking such psudo science! The then justify it by saying that their kids are so well behaved etc. Yet they keep needing to do these things! When they went to BVI Russell and Eve went wild with technology because they thought well 'why not we're going to lose it anyway'. That's not what you want when it comes to kids learning to self-regulate!

Ignoring the fact that their kids aren't extraordinarily well behaved (if they were then why are they still repeatedly having to put sanctions in place) but that alone isn't a sign of good parenting. If I scare the living daylights out of kids by being abusive then they might be well behaved because they are constantly terrified.

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ALSO Thank You Chad for sharing what REALLY goes on. Ruby ( Kevin) has some really screwed up ideas of ways to parent. I never dreamed that they would take a bedroom away AND for 7 months.

Oh I just thought of something. What is taking a bed/room away going to help?? He can still do those things without being in a bedroom.

Did Ruby not expect backlash when this information was shared??

[sheltiefan]

I guess we now know why Chad doesn't have a door on his bedroom or bathroom. After his 7 month no bed punishment was over, the next step was he could have the room but no privacy. Wonder how long Chad has to do on that level to earn the doors back? Why should the kids behavior change that they are being punished for? Ruby told both kids that no they wouldn't get their phone back. Even Eve wasn't down for Ruby's spill today!

In the IG story last night, how can Ruby and Kevin say their kids are happy? Did they watch a totally different vlog that we watched because happy kids is the furthermost word I would describe her kids? Who is these mental health specialists that R and K said told them to do how they are doing? We know Chad is seeing that lady over these crazy life coach junk that Ruby is doing.

[Happy+Charlie]

It’s funny, when i started watching family vloggers 5 years Ago, i told my boyfriend i liked watching it so i could learn things and apply them later in life When i would be a parent myself..

These days i watch maybe 10 % of What i used to. I watch them and all i’m getting from those videos these days is how NOT to parent.. Youtube makes all of these content creators absolutely delusional and its kind of sad! I do realise that the issues of the Griffiths women go waaaay back though..


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Biggest advice is, use your childhood as a foundation and correct those things you feel could have been better. This is something Ruby and her sisters (maybe Beau too) fail to look at. It appears a lot was done wrong in their childhood, clearly passed down from generation to generation and their philosophy is "its how I was raised, and my mother, and grandmother, etc." No, that's not how you do it, tweak things for what works now and hopefully a better outcome for the child.

Something I noticed is Ruby and Kevin stating their methods work....how can they say this when one, two or more of their kids have everything taken away from them for long periods of time (6 MONTHS! at least?) Ruby should be glad this doesn't apply to her, when she burned the kitchen, she would have been out of a house for at least 6 months. When she flooded the house recently, she would have been out of the house for at least 6 months. Biggest issue with them is the punishment does not fit the crime, and they lead by do as I say, not do as I do, and Ruby is a horrible leader. They preach negativity to their children all the time, yet the very thing they preach to them about, Ruby is guilty of (maybe that's why they are so hard on the kids, they fear they are going to turn out like Ruby, lol).

Using a bedroom for a craft room or whatever, instead of letting your child have his own room is not neglect, it's selfish, but no wrong doing. Making your child sleep on a floor when you have the ability to provide for him is wrong. Taking away the electronics is not wrong to do, there are many families who do not allow them period, but giving your child no means of entertainment and forcing them to only interact with their siblings is wrong. However, not giving them opportunity to form and keep friends will hurt them. They will be in the real world as adults and as Ruby has said before, she didn't have friends growing up, only her sisters (I think) and she has struggled with it as an adult. She is a moron to not realize this is how it will be for her children if they cannot interact in their developing years. It's kind of like they are isolating them, maybe because like Kevin said they don't want them to have distractions, but it is still isolation, they can only interact with their siblings and cousins when available, and which cousin is Chad's age that he can bond with? Not supervising your young children and ensuring they have what they need for school, and food is neglect, no matter how Ruby wants to defend her choice of expecting them to fend for themselves.

It will be interesting if social services were to get involved. I do not wish more trouble for the kids, and being uprooted from their home while an investigation were to ensue will be traumatic for them. The best that could come from it is Ruby and Kevin to be required to go to parenting classes, and be monitored, but I seriously doubt it will go anywhere near, if anywhere at all. They will probably defend their methods saying it is their religious beliefs and they will not be held accountable for anything. Again, I am certain their guidance and counseling all comes from the church. Ruby wasn't bothered about any Covid guidance until it came down from her church, so that shows me the only one they listen to and value is family and church.

[Gnomefan212]

I’m not in the USA so can’t call but some needs to calls CPS and the school Chad attends. (No point contacting the Mormon school )

I work in a school in the uk where 12 /25 of the kids are in care/ have been adopted. These children have experienced less abuse that the Frankie Children. These children are shy , timid , lost , can’t accept praise and it’s hard for them to go out into the real world.

Children need a bed ....
Children need enrichment , this doesn’t have to be electronics it can be bored games or toys.

Ruby needs a major reality check !!

[Tiger27]

Tapatalk is back up!! Of course it went down when Myka freaking dumps her kids, Alex goes into “62 hours of early labor” and Ruby provides some of the most wtf content of all time.

I saved a bunch of screenshots of comments before they were deleted.

Their rant in the car about how WE are the ones with issues and that’s why we have a negative responses to the video. Are you freaking kidding me?! Even prisoners are given a bed to sleep on. What a way to deflect any blame for your actions, accuse thousands of people of having issues and do some mental gymnastics to justify them as the ones who are messed up. And Kevin’s pompous ass over there saying we aren’t raising entitled, fragile kids or snowflakes and implying everyone upset with them are those things. I could not roll my eyes any harder. All of those kids are going to require therapy after they break free from that house...Combining the effects of their bizarre parenting and being youtube famous is a recipe for disaster. It was so sad to hear none of them have friends...that is 100% a reflection on how they are being parented and paraded on the internet, not others. I have so many thoughts on this but you all covered a lot and it’s almost too frustrating to put more energy into. I just hope Ruby is exposed one day outside of her loyal subs for the true lunatic she is.

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[Kellyannat]

You know right now Myka Stauffer is getting in trouble for what she did to her adopted child and that was only a matter of time. Eventually the same thing will happen to this family. Ruby will get her Karma. I see it dividing the kids though especially since Eve and Russell are too young to understand and Shari is turning into Ruby. But I’ll bet something big will happen when the time is right. Once Chad is out of the house watch him make a video exposing his family. That or either Julia or Abby will do something huge.

I saw an Instagram where Ruby was like” don’t be scared if your kids! Don’t!” And I’m wondering what that means and if she’ll explain if she didn’t already.

[athyker]

That Instagram was such a joke. She's totally missed the point. She isn't offering basic needs for her kids. She birthed them but then is treating them all as criminals. Like they owe her. For what I'm not sure. Taking away things for a minimum of 6 months? I bet Abby was glad because now she won't be at Ruby's every beck and call. It'll end up punishing Ruby more when she is out and needs to get ahold of her but can't.

Anastazie took away the bed because that's the type of camp they are. Their home isn't anastazie. You're supposed to teach your kids. At 6-8 Ruby NEEDS to be responsible for their electronic time. I have to and my child is eleven. I don't know what life coach or therapist they're talking to but my god they're running a prison in that house. Not a loving family is their religion teaches.

Her parenting really upsets me.

[Audrey3196]

Honestly if I were those kids I would absolutely resent Shari. Yeah Kevin and Ruby have put a ton of responsibility on her shoulders and make her act like a third parent, but Shari is also unbelievably cruel to her siblings at times and has never faced a single consequence. Where was the consequence for shoving the fork in julies face, clearly using her strength to overpower and bully her little sister? Shari said herself in the video that she’s had her phone taken away for like a day at a time. So she isn’t subject to Ruby’s six month minimum policy and gets to bully and demean her siblings as she pleases.