8 Passengers: Emotional Abuse Galore & Making Kids Sleep on The Floor | Part 17

[Happy+Charlie]

these drama channels need to focus on Jennifer! licking ice cream off of Julie's leg, calling Ruby "cinderella" because she had to take care of the family like Shari, and so much more..shes the reason her daughters are the way they are.

I was looking for a Bonnie video and I came across this classic Jen moment at 9:46, where Bonnie explains that is was silly to try and hide her lipo, because the girls are felt up and down for fat rolls every time they meet. No wonder they are all so f-ed up.

.....and, how quickly Jennifer jumped on the band wagon, getting Botox injections. Cosmetic surgery is cosmetic surgery......Jennifer has no room to judge.

[Namm]

I'm probably slow on this thing but I do scan the posts.

I feel for those children & how they're treated especially Chad. For some reason Ruby irritates me and annoys me how some videos are staged.

She allows Russel and Eve to get away with anything like the time they poured Bird food all over Julie's bed, Ruby just laughed... I have a feeling if that was Chad who did that he would have come off worse & Chad who sometimes behaves the same way gets punished.

The video today of the gravestone hunting.. I found it wrong how they were walking/running over other people's graves.... maybe that's just me. When I was younger going to the cemetery & I accidentally walked over a grave my mum would tell me that it's not respectful. Maybe that's just my family though, and still now I feel guilty when I do.

I wonder if any other of their family members have noticed & spoken to Ruby and Kevin and notice their parenting skills aren't good. I'm not a parent but I'd hope I'd never treat my kids like they do... how do they expect a 6 year old to make their own lunch and not take food when its forgotten? Did she not feel any guilt knowing her kid was going hungry? Especially when it sounded like she had no remorse when the teacher had phoned her to say even the teacher felt guilty.... hopefully the teacher had given her something. I know when I was her age if we forgot our lunch we'd get given a lunch that school provided although things maybe different here in England.

I hear Ruby says in some videos her parenting skills have got better then in her old videos but if you ask me they've got worse. The children should be out having fun with friends and doing what they enjoy... they need friends their own age instead of just playing with siblings and whatnot.

Anyway I'll stop now. I just hope for their children's sake things improve.


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I don't think Ruby was a much better parent before but she portraited herself as one and hid her flaws well.
The first thing in the earlier vlogs that struck me as confusing was a hairbrush that was lost or broken and she blamed poor Shari who happened to be innocent.
I remember the kids being hungry eating snacks and hiding it from her blaming eachother when she asked.
Before Shari became the golden child Ruby wasn't nice to her, Shari was terrified of her mother.
Ruby kept Chad home (fake homeschooling) but instead used him as a babysitter, she manipulated poor Russell, consistently bullied and embarrassed Julie.
Does anyone remember the phone call about the lost ring , where she blamed Julie?

Her kids used to wake up very early to do these crazy chores and they also went to bed late doing chores and often missed their homework.
She made them sleep on the nasty bathroom floor without anything when they were sick.
The girls shared beds and Shari shared with Evie and had to mother her and wake up at night to comfort her.

There was a trip somewhere and Ruby blamed Shari and asked her why she hadn't packed Eve some extra pants, Shari held back the tears while Ruby questioned her, Shari knowing that it wasn't her fault.

I don't know if this vlog exists anymore but it was about Eve becoming a big girl. She was about to start wearing big girl panties but the title was horrible and sexualing. People called her out and she changed the title. I couldn't finish the vlog because the title was discusting and this was an early vlog.

[mollybaby]

these drama channels need to focus on Jennifer! licking ice cream off of Julie's leg, calling Ruby "cinderella" because she had to take care of the family like Shari, and so much more..shes the reason her daughters are the way they are.

I was looking for a Bonnie video and I came across this classic Jen moment at 9:46, where Bonnie explains that is was silly to try and hide her lipo, because the girls are felt up and down for fat rolls every time they meet. No wonder they are all so f-ed up.

This clip is extremely disturbing. I understand closeness between a mother and daughter but this is different.

I can’t believe Ruby is posting as if nothing ever happened. Does she not understand the severity of the situation? If anything, this could cause permanent damage to Kevin’s career, not just the vlogging. How will they support their family when they’ve ruined their reputations?

They are so disrespectful and not following proper protocol in a cemetery. There are guidelines and they don’t seem to understand that being quiet and respectful is at the top of the list. Playing games, running on people’s graves, even filming and nearly touching someone else’s blanket is blatant disrespect! The way Jennifer is handing out money and all the kids are fawning at her feet..this whole thing is absolutely disgusting. Shame on them. I watched this vlog when Bonnie put it out and on hers, the kids were running all over the place.


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[YTIG60]

Her kids used to wake up very early to do these crazy chores and they also went to bed late doing chores and often missed their homework.
She made them sleep on the nasty bathroom floor without anything when they were sick.
The girls shared beds and Shari shared with Evie and had to mother her and wake up at night to comfort her.

Yes, I do remember some of your message and it includes Ruby wearing some lounge gown that made her feel beautiful as she lounged on the couch. Her kids were up early before school with chores or practicing an instrument if I recall correctly.

Was yesterday's Graveyard vlog a sponsored video with the family search app? I don't think so?

Less than a one hundreds thousand views and over half (3.5K) dislikes. It is possible her channel is done due to viewers not coming back and the ones who have, are leaving dislikes that will hurt their brand deals if they even have any... Ad revenue with YouTube still must be down since you don't see any large companies advertising on her channel and others i.e. Disney,

Ruby is working hard to show the ideal American family by visiting the graveyard, family prayer, picnics, being with a large extended family and baseball. I don't think we'll ever see the old Ruby again if it is up to her manager and lawyer. She will not be able to use Chad in the future for views. I'm not sure how Bonnie and Julie feel about being in Ruby's vlogs with all the contravary.

[mollybaby]

Her kids used to wake up very early to do these crazy chores and they also went to bed late doing chores and often missed their homework.
She made them sleep on the nasty bathroom floor without anything when they were sick.
The girls shared beds and Shari shared with Evie and had to mother her and wake up at night to comfort her.

Yes, I do remember some of your message and it includes Ruby wearing some lounge gown that made her feel beautiful as she lounged on the couch. Her kids were up early before school with chores or practicing an instrument if I recall correctly.

Was yesterday's Graveyard vlog a sponsored video with the family search app? I don't think so?

Less than a one hundreds thousand views and over half (3.5K) dislikes. It is possible her channel is done due to viewers not coming back and the ones who have, are leaving dislikes that will hurt their brand deals if they even have any... Ad revenue with YouTube still must be down since you don't see any large companies advertising on her channel and others i.e. Disney,

Ruby is working hard to show the ideal American family by visiting the graveyard, family prayer, picnics, being with a large extended family and baseball. I don't think we'll ever see the old Ruby again if it is up to her manager and lawyer. She will not be able to use Chad in the future for views. I'm not sure how Bonnie and Julie feel about being in Ruby's vlogs with all the contravary.

I was trying to find that vlog the other day and couldn’t find it. I remember watching in disbelief. She made her kids get up incredibly early and practice music, do chores, etc. I remember thinking, how in the world do they function properly at school when they wake up so early and have an entire day before school even starts? If anyone finds this vlog please link it!

[Kattiness Everdeen]

A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE, RUBY'S BIGGEST INFLUENCES

Jen tells Landon to get down on all fours so she can milk him (later in the night Landon and Julie force their baby to suck on Landon's udders).




Here Jen tells Bonnie's kids that hot sauce is only for punishing mouthy kids, at 2.15:



Here Jen slams baby Ruby off a ledge into the bed and she cries, 6:43:



Jen only gives Ruby attention when she mentions she cleaned the house. She also notes that these 4 very young children had been "working outside all day". Bonnie's reaction to being told they had the wrong baby was adorable though (at 5:00).



Here baby Ruby gets manhandled by Dad at the start, then at 2:06 she nearly snaps her neck rolling head over feet, and Dad says to do it again. At 3:27 Dad hangs Ruby by her neck on a swing.



In this one Ruby gets two birthday presents, is called spoiled by her Dad and gets super defensive about ruining the surprise (1:16). Sound familiar? At 4.36 Bonnie runs from her Dad trying to get bedtime kisses, screaming "don't poke me".



In this one, Jen tells the kids they can have a dish of Grapenuts for dinner and Ruby asks if it will make her throw up. Strange. At 4:58 Jen lifts the new puppy up by the neck and starts "blanket training" the dog like we see her daughters do today.



In this one, it's Julie's turn to get manhandled by Dad, restraining her face until she cries at 2:42. Jen has to tell him to stop in almost EVERY video. He repeatedly bounces a ball off her head at 4:11.



And here Grandpa bullies Lincoln for his hair which he desperately wants to cut (his mom won't let him), then intentionally let's go of him, slamming his head so hard it rebounds from the impact (at 11.55)

[Catface2]

As we all can see...because all of them have shared it all on the web...the abuse runs deep in the Griffiths clan. Jennifer and Chad have ruined those girls and now they themselves are doing it to their own kids. I think Jennifer has the narcissism and chad is abusive, together is a giant cluster fuck. I remember Jennifer and the girls cackling on about how I think it was Jens mother was a farm wife but always dressed as a socialite in beautiful dresses...that to me seems nuts. I’m pissed that the men the girls married let this shit go on with their kids...disgusting.

[imoverit]

The dads in this family are consistently just as bad as their wives, and even the best ones are still complicit or enabling. Chad's manhandling of those kids in the old videos is terrifying, with baby Ruby you can think okay maaaybe he just doesn't know how to care for a baby properly yet. But he's still just as aggressive 4 kids later with Julie so that can't be it. He's just unfit to be a father. Is it Ellie who doesn't let the kids have sleepovers, even with grandparents? I get everyone confused, but I too would never leave my kids alone overnight in that guy's house, I don't care if he's my dad or not.

[Liz_444]

these drama channels need to focus on Jennifer! licking ice cream off of Julie's leg, calling Ruby "cinderella" because she had to take care of the family like Shari, and so much more..shes the reason her daughters are the way they are.

I was looking for a Bonnie video and I came across this classic Jen moment at 9:46, where Bonnie explains that is was silly to try and hide her lipo, because the girls are felt up and down for fat rolls every time they meet. No wonder they are all so f-ed up.

This clip is extremely disturbing. I understand closeness between a mother and daughter but this is different.

I can’t believe Ruby is posting as if nothing ever happened. Does she not understand the severity of the situation? If anything, this could cause permanent damage to Kevin’s career, not just the vlogging. How will they support their family when they’ve ruined their reputations?

They are so disrespectful and not following proper protocol in a cemetery. There are guidelines and they don’t seem to understand that being quiet and respectful is at the top of the list. Playing games, running on people’s graves, even filming and nearly touching someone else’s blanket is blatant disrespect! The way Jennifer is handing out money and all the kids are fawning at her feet..this whole thing is absolutely disgusting. Shame on them. I watched this vlog when Bonnie put it out and on hers, the kids were running all over the place.


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[YTIG60]

The dads in this family are consistently just as bad as their wives, and even the best ones are still complicit or enabling. Chad's manhandling of those kids in the old videos is terrifying, with baby Ruby you can think okay maaaybe he just doesn't know how to care for a baby properly yet. But he's still just as aggressive 4 kids later with Julie so that can't be it. He's just unfit to be a father. Is it Ellie who doesn't let the kids have sleepovers, even with grandparents? I get everyone confused, but I too would never leave my kids alone overnight in that guy's house, I don't care if he's my dad or not.

I've always wonder what the paternal grandparents felt about Chad, Jen and their daughter-in-laws. Clearly, you can see some issues with the Griffiths sisters and the world is learning more about them with Ruby's recent problems. The rough and not so nice teasing you see with Chad has been passed on to his daughters. In these home videos, Chad does seem a bit creepy as a younger adult that I don't see quite as much in today's vlogs.

[Liz_444]

these drama channels need to focus on Jennifer! licking ice cream off of Julie's leg, calling Ruby "cinderella" because she had to take care of the family like Shari, and so much more..shes the reason her daughters are the way they are.

I was looking for a Bonnie video and I came across this classic Jen moment at 9:46, where Bonnie explains that is was silly to try and hide her lipo, because the girls are felt up and down for fat rolls every time they meet. No wonder they are all so f-ed up.

This clip is extremely disturbing. I understand closeness between a mother and daughter but this is different.

I can’t believe Ruby is posting as if nothing ever happened. Does she not understand the severity of the situation? If anything, this could cause permanent damage to Kevin’s career, not just the vlogging. How will they support their family when they’ve ruined their reputations?

They are so disrespectful and not following proper protocol in a cemetery. There are guidelines and they don’t seem to understand that being quiet and respectful is at the top of the list. Playing games, running on people’s graves, even filming and nearly touching someone else’s blanket is blatant disrespect! The way Jennifer is handing out money and all the kids are fawning at her feet..this whole thing is absolutely disgusting. Shame on them. I watched this vlog when Bonnie put it out and on hers, the kids were running all over the place.


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[LilaRose]

I have been following the 8 Passengers for a couple of years now and although I hardly ever agreed with any of Ruby's parenting, her kids never were on top of my mental list of youtube kids who needed to be saved as soon as possible (top of the list were always the children of "the epic life", followed by Huxley Stauffer and the Gardner girls).

But especially during the last year I have seen a ton of red flags in Ruby's vlogs that left me really concerned. It usually wasn't anything big or scandalous, just little incidents or sentences that showed very clearly how insanly controlling Ruby actually is and how little love/compassion/empathy/understanding exists in this family.

- Ruby repeately saying that her life goal has always been to be a mom, but showing over and over again that she hardly does what a mom should be doing. She seems to be missing any form of maternal instinct/feelings. When Kevin was away on a business trip for a few weeks last summer she hired a young neighbor girl to put Eve (and Russell?) to bed every freakin evening. To me there are certain times in a day when one of the parents ideally should be there for their children: 1) in the morning to wake them up, give them a good and happy start in the day, make them a healthy breakfast, a nutrious lunch and send them off to school in good spirit so they are relaxed and ready to learn. 2) When they get home from school to give them a snack, listen to what has happened during the day and help them with homework. 3) to put them to bed, tuck them in, talk to them about the day, about what's going on tomorrow, read a story, talk, listen. Obviously, there are a ton of parents who can't do that because they are single parents or work shift or whatever. Ruby on the other hand could easily do those things but is too lazy to do so. She wants to sleep in instead of getting up in the morning and she was soooo stressed out with Kevin being away for only a few weeks that she just HAD to take a walk every evening when it was time for Eve and Russell to go to sleep. She couldn't do it in the afternoon or after they went to bed, no. It had to be exactly at that time.That just felt completely off to me.

- her lack of cooking, lack of well balanced meals plus the portion sizes really bothers me. If she always wanted to be a mom, why on earth doesn't she educate herself on nutrition and makes sure that her kids get the right stuff and ENOUGH food to grow up healthily. Imho that is neglectful and extremely lazy.

- Ruby always talks to the kids about how their siblings will be their best friends for life but does EVERYTHING for them to NOT have a good relationship. She constantly makes them tell/snitch on each other. I think it is disgusting how Shari at the age of 16/17 HAPPILY in many vlogs yells in the background what one of her siblings has done wrong. The older ones are regulary telling on the mistakes the younger ones made and so on. She asks the older ones about punishments for the younger ones, bs like that. How can kids form a healthy sibling bond if they can't trust each other?

- Also most of the chores they have to do are only for themselves. Washing their own clothes, making their own lunch.... In my family my parents always stressed that we are a team and have to work together to make the family work. So the chores we had to do (aside from cleaning our own bedrooms and such) were for the good of the whole family. For example I did the laundry for everybody, from collecting it from their bins to sorting it, washing it, hanging it up or throwing it in the dryer, folding it and putting it on their beds. It really helped the bond within the family when everybody was doing something for everyone. Ruby seems to be very narcissistic and is raising her kids to be narcissistic as well.

- there was a room tour on Sharis channel I believe, where Shari says that her mom doesn't allow her to leave her water bottle on the end of her bed. It has to be on the other side. SAY WHAT? That is a 16 year old girl in her own room and she isn't allowed to decide for herself on what end of the bed her water bottle has to be. That was such a small thing but SO telling about how insanely controlling Ruby really is.

- Same thing with Ruby helping Julie sort through her stuff (she literally had nothing although she was a 10 year old kid at that time who should have been having toys, books and stuff like that). Julie had a folder where she wrote down how much money she got/had. Ruby allowed her to keep the paper she was writing on but told her to get rid of the folder because it was a waste of space. Again: WHAT ON EARTH? That kid lived in an empty room, had no toys, no books, no nothing and was not allowed to keep one freakin folder in her closet. INSANE.

- the kids repeatedly saying that their room isn't "their room" but Ruby's room which she lets them have is just crazy. Never heard anything like that in all my life. It's especially disgusting since every buck Ruby earned in her life is due to her children.

- the incident that possibly shocked and disgusted me the most was pretty recently when Eve was sick and Ruby heard her getting up at night to get ice from the fridge and then whimper and cry in her room. And this woman who supposedly always only wanted to be a mother does not have enough maternal instinct and empathy in her, to get up and check on her 5/6 year old daughter. Not only that. Her first thought is that Eve is manipulating her. That to me was one of the most heartbreaking and sickening things I ever heard a mother say. Every parent on this earth with a normal mind/heart would automatically get up and check on their kid if they heard them crying and getting ice in the middle of the night. It's insane. It's absolutely insane.

The crazy thing is that Ruby is so full of herself that she doesn't even consider she might be wrong. Her "apology" was the most arrogant thing I ever heard and that she truely thinks she is the right person to write a parenting book is just beyond ironic.

[chrisb332]

I have been following the 8 Passengers for a couple of years now and although I hardly ever agreed with any of Ruby's parenting, her kids never were on top of my mental list of youtube kids who needed to be saved as soon as possible (top of the list were always the children of "the epic life", followed by Huxley Stauffer and the Gardner girls).

But especially during the last year I have seen a ton of red flags in Ruby's vlogs that left me really concerned. It usually wasn't anything big or scandalous, just little incidents or sentences that showed very clearly how insanly controlling Ruby actually is and how little love/compassion/empathy/understanding exists in this family.

- Ruby repeately saying that her life goal has always been to be a mom, but showing over and over again that she hardly does what a mom should be doing. She seems to be missing any form of maternal instinct/feelings. When Kevin was away on a business trip for a few weeks last summer she hired a young neighbor girl to put Eve (and Russell?) to bed every freakin evening. To me there are certain times in a day when one of the parents ideally should be there for their children: 1) in the morning to wake them up, give them a good and happy start in the day, make them a healthy breakfast, a nutrious lunch and send them off to school in good spirit so they are relaxed and ready to learn. 2) When they get home from school to give them a snack, listen to what has happened during the day and help them with homework. 3) to put them to bed, tuck them in, talk to them about the day, about what's going on tomorrow, read a story, talk, listen. Obviously, there are a ton of parents who can't do that because they are single parents or work shift or whatever. Ruby on the other hand could easily do those things but is too lazy to do so. She wants to sleep in instead of getting up in the morning and she was soooo stressed out with Kevin being away for only a few weeks that she just HAD to take a walk every evening when it was time for Eve and Russell to go to sleep. She couldn't do it in the afternoon or after they went to bed, no. It had to be exactly at that time.That just felt completely off to me.

- her lack of cooking, lack of well balanced meals plus the portion sizes really bothers me. If she always wanted to be a mom, why on earth doesn't she educate herself on nutrition and makes sure that her kids get the right stuff and ENOUGH food to grow up healthily. Imho that is neglectful and extremely lazy.

- Ruby always talks to the kids about how their siblings will be their best friends for life but does EVERYTHING for them to NOT have a good relationship. She constantly makes them tell/snitch on each other. I think it is disgusting how Shari at the age of 16/17 HAPPILY in many vlogs yells in the background what one of her siblings has done wrong. The older ones are regulary telling on the mistakes the younger ones made and so on. She asks the older ones about punishments for the younger ones, bs like that. How can kids form a healthy sibling bond if they can't trust each other?

- Also most of the chores they have to do are only for themselves. Washing their own clothes, making their own lunch.... In my family my parents always stressed that we are a team and have to work together to make the family work. So the chores we had to do (aside from cleaning our own bedrooms and such) were for the good of the whole family. For example I did the laundry for everybody, from collecting it from their bins to sorting it, washing it, hanging it up or throwing it in the dryer, folding it and putting it on their beds. It really helped the bond within the family when everybody was doing something for everyone. Ruby seems to be very narcissistic and is raising her kids to be narcissistic as well.

- there was a room tour on Sharis channel I believe, where Shari says that her mom doesn't allow her to leave her water bottle on the end of her bed. It has to be on the other side. SAY WHAT? That is a 16 year old girl in her own room and she isn't allowed to decide for herself on what end of the bed her water bottle has to be. That was such a small thing but SO telling about how insanely controlling Ruby really is.

- Same thing with Ruby helping Julie sort through her stuff (she literally had nothing although she was a 10 year old kid at that time who should have been having toys, books and stuff like that). Julie had a folder where she wrote down how much money she got/had. Ruby allowed her to keep the paper she was writing on but told her to get rid of the folder because it was a waste of space. Again: WHAT ON EARTH? That kid lived in an empty room, had no toys, no books, no nothing and was not allowed to keep one freakin folder in her closet. INSANE.

- the kids repeatedly saying that their room isn't "their room" but Ruby's room which she lets them have is just crazy. Never heard anything like that in all my life. It's especially disgusting since every buck Ruby earned in her life is due to her children.

- the incident that possibly shocked and disgusted me the most was pretty recently when Eve was sick and Ruby heard her getting up at night to get ice from the fridge and then whimper and cry in her room. And this woman who supposedly always only wanted to be a mother does not have enough maternal instinct and empathy in her, to get up and check on her 5/6 year old daughter. Not only that. Her first thought is that Eve is manipulating her. That to me was one of the most heartbreaking and sickening things I ever heard a mother say. Every parent on this earth with a normal mind/heart would automatically get up and check on their kid if they heard them crying and getting ice in the middle of the night. It's insane. It's absolutely insane.

The crazy thing is that Ruby is so full of herself that she doesn't even consider she might be wrong. Her "apology" was the most arrogant thing I ever heard and that she truely thinks she is the right person to write a parenting book is just beyond ironic.

That is disgusting, in reference to the Eve story. Last year I was a cabin leader to a middle school girl cabin. One of the girls woke me up at 5 am puking. You better believe I was out of that bed helping that girl and trying to get her cleaned up and feeling better. I also went and got help from two other leaders and they jumped out of bed at 5 am to help her. I had no relation to this girl, but she was my responsibility to take care of. To be a parent and not take care of your child is horrific. This is only teaching Eve when she gets in real trouble, mom's not going to help her. Knowing how CPS works even if they are investigating it is likely nothing will come from it. I do hope that these children grow up and run away from this life. This family is horrifying and I cannot imagine having to endure 18 years of this life. People have pointed out that this cycle likely comes from the matriarchs own childhood, so I hope that the children put an end to this cycle of abuse. Also I'm not sure his name but I always get super creepy vibes from the Griffith grandpa.

[imoverit]

I looked further into the comment from Shari's room tour about the water bottle placement because it reminded me she said something about their pillows too. So for the water bottle the issue was Shari said Ruby gets "mad" if her water bottle is sitting at the foot of her bed instead of the head of her bed, like on the frame. Next she says "when we got this new bedding mom said 'all of your beds are going to look identical. we want them all to look the same.' And then I came and saw Abby's and was like. Abby." as she shows Abby's cute cookie pillow and how it doesn't "match". Shari is groomed to go along with her mom's insanely controlling behaviors and enforce it in her younger siblings. This is actually insane. And it fits in with Ruby's attitude in the new house of wanting all their beds to be identical (even though they're in different rooms???) and saying she doesn't like when the girls' closets have things stored on the floor. Like.... this is seriously absurdly controlling behavior. And this from a woman who talks about how she knows she USED to be controlling and got over it!

[PumpkinHead]

Well, looks like Ruby finally got my video taken down (I was the one who reuploaded the infamous vlog). Maybe I should keep reuploading it just to drive Ruby crazy

[LilaRose]

I looked further into the comment from Shari's room tour about the water bottle placement because it reminded me she said something about their pillows too. So for the water bottle the issue was Shari said Ruby gets "mad" if her water bottle is sitting at the foot of her bed instead of the head of her bed, like on the frame. Next she says "when we got this new bedding mom said 'all of your beds are going to look identical. we want them all to look the same.' And then I came and saw Abby's and was like. Abby." as she shows Abby's cute cookie pillow and how it doesn't "match". Shari is groomed to go along with her mom's insanely controlling behaviors and enforce it in her younger siblings. This is actually insane. And it fits in with Ruby's attitude in the new house of wanting all their beds to be identical (even though they're in different rooms???) and saying she doesn't like when the girls' closets have things stored on the floor. Like.... this is seriously absurdly controlling behavior. And this from a woman who talks about how she knows she USED to be controlling and got over it!

Taking a bed away for seven months or not bringing your kid lunch are the big things. These small things like a 16 year old not being allowed to keep her water bottle on the foot of her bed (in her own room!) sound like nothing but the say SO MUCH, about how insanely controlling Ruby actually is. Same thing with putting something on the closet floor. It is really sick and Ruby should get help, before further ruining her kids. I know a lot of very tidy people (me being one of them ), but feeling the need to control where a water bottle stands in a kids' bedroom is beyond controlling.

[Josette]

I'm probably slow on this thing but I do scan the posts.

I feel for those children & how they're treated especially Chad. For some reason Ruby irritates me and annoys me how some videos are staged.

She allows Russel and Eve to get away with anything like the time they poured Bird food all over Julie's bed, Ruby just laughed... I have a feeling if that was Chad who did that he would have come off worse & Chad who sometimes behaves the same way gets punished.

The video today of the gravestone hunting.. I found it wrong how they were walking/running over other people's graves.... maybe that's just me. When I was younger going to the cemetery & I accidentally walked over a grave my mum would tell me that it's not respectful. Maybe that's just my family though, and still now I feel guilty when I do.

I wonder if any other of their family members have noticed & spoken to Ruby and Kevin and notice their parenting skills aren't good. I'm not a parent but I'd hope I'd never treat my kids like they do... how do they expect a 6 year old to make their own lunch and not take food when its forgotten? Did she not feel any guilt knowing her kid was going hungry? Especially when it sounded like she had no remorse when the teacher had phoned her to say even the teacher felt guilty.... hopefully the teacher had given her something. I know when I was her age if we forgot our lunch we'd get given a lunch that school provided although things maybe different here in England.

I hear Ruby says in some videos her parenting skills have got better then in her old videos but if you ask me they've got worse. The children should be out having fun with friends and doing what they enjoy... they need friends their own age instead of just playing with siblings and whatnot.

Anyway I'll stop now. I just hope for their children's sake things improve.


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I don't think Ruby was a much better parent before but she portraited herself as one and hid her flaws well.
The first thing in the earlier vlogs that struck me as confusing was a hairbrush that was lost or broken and she blamed poor Shari who happened to be innocent.
I remember the kids being hungry eating snacks and hiding it from her blaming eachother when she asked.
Before Shari became the golden child Ruby wasn't nice to her, Shari was terrified of her mother.
Ruby kept Chad home (fake homeschooling) but instead used him as a babysitter, she manipulated poor Russell, consistently bullied and embarrassed Julie.
Does anyone remember the phone call about the lost ring , where she blamed Julie?

Her kids used to wake up very early to do these crazy chores and they also went to bed late doing chores and often missed their homework.
She made them sleep on the nasty bathroom floor without anything when they were sick.
The girls shared beds and Shari shared with Evie and had to mother her and wake up at night to comfort her.

There was a trip somewhere and Ruby blamed Shari and asked her why she hadn't packed Eve some extra pants, Shari held back the tears while Ruby questioned her, Shari knowing that it wasn't her fault.

I don't know if this vlog exists anymore but it was about Eve becoming a big girl. She was about to start wearing big girl panties but the title was horrible and sexualing. People called her out and she changed the title. I couldn't finish the vlog because the title was discusting and this was an early vlog.

No, it's not just your family. I was taught from a very early age that you didn't walk across graves.

And I do recall Ruby scolding & blaming Shari for not packing extra clothing for Eve. I also recall Ruby blaming Julie for the missing ring.

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FINALLY. In "Back to School PREP" Ruby says that Russell did not start to sit up or crawl until 18 months, and walked around 21 months. She gave him the extra year before starting kindergarten to physically develop some more. She says she doesn't know why he was slow to develop:
"One of the reasons could be that he ... I even (??) saying it out loud cus I still feel a little guilt over it. I dropped him off the couch, he didn't fall straight down but he rolled off. He was not even 6 months old, he was very young, he was just an infant. We were laying on the couch and I like leaned up and he rolled off and I grabbed him, so he didn't fall straight to the ground I kind of fumbled him. And he fell to the floor and I took him to the hospital. So um after he didn't stop crying for a couple days I took him in to the hospital and they x-rayed him and they said 'it looks like he broke his femur, but babies heal so quickly it's only been a day or two and it's already starting to heal'. So they didn't put him in a body cast or anything they just said 'be very careful when you change his diaper, don't lift from the legs, kinda lift from the legs and the bottom, use a lot of support when you change his diapers'. So that could contribute to why physically he developed slowly. Mentally he's doing just great. Then he grew up. He's a very healthy very happy very kind-hearted and empathetic little boy."



(Sorry for the huge transcription, but she could end up deleting the video as it was tucked away and hard to find! Well here you go Ruby I guess...)
I agree with the decision to go to kindergarten later rather than be one of the youngest in his class on top of the slow development. I'm just glad all this doesn't seem to have had long term consequences for him as he seems very physically normal now. But wow how scary.

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Her kids used to wake up very early to do these crazy chores and they also went to bed late doing chores and often missed their homework.
She made them sleep on the nasty bathroom floor without anything when they were sick.
The girls shared beds and Shari shared with Evie and had to mother her and wake up at night to comfort her.

Yes, I do remember some of your message and it includes Ruby wearing some lounge gown that made her feel beautiful as she lounged on the couch. Her kids were up early before school with chores or practicing an instrument if I recall correctly.

Was yesterday's Graveyard vlog a sponsored video with the family search app? I don't think so?

Less than a one hundreds thousand views and over half (3.5K) dislikes. It is possible her channel is done due to viewers not coming back and the ones who have, are leaving dislikes that will hurt their brand deals if they even have any... Ad revenue with YouTube still must be down since you don't see any large companies advertising on her channel and others i.e. Disney,

Ruby is working hard to show the ideal American family by visiting the graveyard, family prayer, picnics, being with a large extended family and baseball. I don't think we'll ever see the old Ruby again if it is up to her manager and lawyer. She will not be able to use Chad in the future for views. I'm not sure how Bonnie and Julie feel about being in Ruby's vlogs with all the contravary.

I definetely think it will be good for Chad's mental well being if he's not gonna be showcased in the vlogs as much. But I also worry that if he isn't, ruby dooby will refuse to pay for anything of his, even food. She'll probably be like "well since you aren't in the vlogs, you aren't contributing to the family income, so therefore you shouldn't get to eat Chad!!" and probably laugh like the evil witch she is.

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The dads in this family are consistently just as bad as their wives, and even the best ones are still complicit or enabling. Chad's manhandling of those kids in the old videos is terrifying, with baby Ruby you can think okay maaaybe he just doesn't know how to care for a baby properly yet. But he's still just as aggressive 4 kids later with Julie so that can't be it. He's just unfit to be a father. Is it Ellie who doesn't let the kids have sleepovers, even with grandparents? I get everyone confused, but I too would never leave my kids alone overnight in that guy's house, I don't care if he's my dad or not.

Ellie's kids have had sleepovers there many times. I'm sure she would leave them with anybody just to get them out of her sight. I'll bet they think he's the best dad/grandfather ever. They don't know any better.