8 Passengers: Emotional Abuse Galore & Making Kids Sleep on The Floor | Part 17

[Happy+Charlie]

Ruby has said about always wanting to be a mom; however, she doesn't want to comfort them; listen to them; put them in activities; play with them; entertain them; fix meals for them; so, I wonder what part of being a mom she really wanted.

I saw on Kevin's instagram Chad is participating in high school football. I wonder how long that will last, until Ruby takes it away from him. At least he won't cause her to be a victim mom since he can walk to the school and she won't have to do anything for him. She'll probably even wait until the last game of the season to go and watch. I think it was Julie was in swim meets, and Ruby finally made it to the last one to watch her. Same with dance, never went to her classes, or shows, and coned Julie in to staying in dance, because she had not been able to see her dance yet.

[kates_crush]

Is it Ellie who doesn't let the kids have sleepovers, even with grandparents?

I believe it's Ruby and Kevin that have that rule. I seem to remember them in a vlog talking about how you never know what could happen in someone else's house.

I honestly think they wanted to be mothers so that they could have people worship them the way they were made to worship St. Jennifer the Perfect.

I think a lot of it boils down to Mormon culture. Having a lot of kids is very common in their circles.

Well, yeah, the Mormon church does encourage large families. But there's more to it than just that with the Griffiths. Ruby had multiple miscarriages and they were not financially stable, and yet she kept getting pregnant. Ellie says she and Jared were _broke_, and living on potatoes, and some weeks had to choose between gas in the car and food. She may have been exaggerating, but I do believe they weren't financially stable. And she was getting fertility treatments. The Mormon church doesn't encourage people to have babies that they can't afford, and birth control isn't forbidden. I personally think that the Griffiths drive to reproduce is related to their dysfunction. It's obviously just my opinion, of course.
And about Russell's leg-- the femur is the strongest bone in the body. And babies bones aren't fully calcified, so they are more flexible than adult bones. They're harder to break. That whole story of hers is fishy AF. I can't imagine how she got out of the ER without being reported to CPS. Moms who show up with untreated fractures get side eyed _hard_.

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So many of the griffiths girls telling stories about them and their newlywed husbands being completely broke and not having enough food to eat... I always wondered why didn’t family help them? They were still young at that point, early twenties, why couldn’t their parents help out a bit, that’s a normal family thing to do... and then when ruby said she had that rule “no children can live with me once they turn 18” it started to make sense, that how she must have been raised. So no matter how much you are struggling they won’t help... who cares if you are literally starving and on the brink of homelessness.

[imoverit]

I'm feeling rather disgusted that they had a scavenger hunt at the cemetery. Also, did I miss it did they have a family serve in the military and lose their life because of it? Last I checked that's what Memorial Day was for. I'm ready to see the videos coming up to see how different Ruby tries to act. I pray to god that Chad has not been punished.

Okay we learn from the grandparents' memorial day video that grandpa Chad's father served in WWII. So I guess that's the connection they're trying to make between memorial day and going to the cemetery... but he died in 2004, so still not the point of the day. I agree with the comment that said they should just choose a different day to celebrate and remember their deceased family members in general, it doesn't make sense at all to say that's how they celebrate memorial day.

[Namm]

A TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE, RUBY'S BIGGEST INFLUENCES

Jen tells Landon to get down on all fours so she can milk him (later in the night Landon and Julie force their baby to suck on Landon's udders).




Here Jen tells Bonnie's kids that hot sauce is only for punishing mouthy kids, at 2.15:



Here Jen slams baby Ruby off a ledge into the bed and she cries, 6:43:



Jen only gives Ruby attention when she mentions she cleaned the house. She also notes that these 4 very young children had been "working outside all day". Bonnie's reaction to being told they had the wrong baby was adorable though (at 5:00).



Here baby Ruby gets manhandled by Dad at the start, then at 2:06 she nearly snaps her neck rolling head over feet, and Dad says to do it again. At 3:27 Dad hangs Ruby by her neck on a swing.



In this one Ruby gets two birthday presents, is called spoiled by her Dad and gets super defensive about ruining the surprise (1:16). Sound familiar? At 4.36 Bonnie runs from her Dad trying to get bedtime kisses, screaming "don't poke me".



In this one, Jen tells the kids they can have a dish of Grapenuts for dinner and Ruby asks if it will make her throw up. Strange. At 4:58 Jen lifts the new puppy up by the neck and starts "blanket training" the dog like we see her daughters do today.



In this one, it's Julie's turn to get manhandled by Dad, restraining her face until she cries at 2:42. Jen has to tell him to stop in almost EVERY video. He repeatedly bounces a ball off her head at 4:11.



And here Grandpa bullies Lincoln for his hair which he desperately wants to cut (his mom won't let him), then intentionally let's go of him, slamming his head so hard it rebounds from the impact (at 11.55)

Bonnie might not have wanted to kiss her dad goodnight, due to facial hair stubble. I hated my dad's stubble as a kid.

I could give them a pass for certain things. I think that many parents didn't know any better back in the day in the 80s. I also believe they were very young and young men/ dads are usually rough and mature much later in life.

The real issue with this two is that Jennifer is a narcissist and grandpa is a bully. If it hadn't been for how Ruby and Bonnie treat their children or the way they are inspired and worship their mother I would be confused about grandma Griffiths. The only thing noticable with Jennifer is her creepy voice and the way she talks. I think she hides herself well behind the fake image.

[Catface2]

I always get the sense from Ruby that deep down she carries a lot of anger and resentment over how her life turned out. From what I can see she was actually a very talented musician and quite driven to succeed when she was younger but it seems like she gave all of that up when she married Kevin and started having children. I know she says that it was her choice to marry young and drop out of college but she was pretty much raised to believe that it was her only option. Let's face it - she had been raising her younger siblings for years.

Roll on a lot of years and six children later and she seems ...angry most of the time. Kevin clearly has his own life outside of the home with a successful and stimulating career while Ruby has....nothing - other than following her kids round with a camera and selling the footage for money. It's very clear she has mentally and physically opted out of anything more than the most rudimentary parenting. Ruby doesn't want to parent, she wants to CONTROL her kids because she lacks any control over how her own life has turned out. I think that her bizarre behavior started to get worse once Eve started school because all of a sudden Ruby realized that the amount of power and control she has wielded over the kids has decreased as they get older.

I also think this is why she has turned to all the counselling woo; she is becoming increasingly unhinged and instead of trying to look inside herself and figure out why she is so angry, she is projecting it onto everyone around her and trying to position herself as knowledgeable. Classic narcissist behavior.

I think this is spot on.

BINGO!

[krcmum62]

I believe it's Ruby and Kevin that have that rule. I seem to remember them in a vlog talking about how you never know what could happen in someone else's house.



I think a lot of it boils down to Mormon culture. Having a lot of kids is very common in their circles.

Well, yeah, the Mormon church does encourage large families. But there's more to it than just that with the Griffiths. Ruby had multiple miscarriages and they were not financially stable, and yet she kept getting pregnant. Ellie says she and Jared were _broke_, and living on potatoes, and some weeks had to choose between gas in the car and food. She may have been exaggerating, but I do believe they weren't financially stable. And she was getting fertility treatments. The Mormon church doesn't encourage people to have babies that they can't afford, and birth control isn't forbidden. I personally think that the Griffiths drive to reproduce is related to their dysfunction. It's obviously just my opinion, of course.
And about Russell's leg-- the femur is the strongest bone in the body. And babies bones aren't fully calcified, so they are more flexible than adult bones. They're harder to break. That whole story of hers is fishy AF. I can't imagine how she got out of the ER without being reported to CPS. Moms who show up with untreated fractures get side eyed _hard_.

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So many of the griffiths girls telling stories about them and their newlywed husbands being completely broke and not having enough food to eat... I always wondered why didn’t family help them? They were still young at that point, early twenties, why couldn’t their parents help out a bit, that’s a normal family thing to do... and then when ruby said she had that rule “no children can live with me once they turn 18” it started to make sense, that how she must have been raised. So no matter how much you are struggling they won’t help... who cares if you are literally starving and on the brink of homelessness.

I think it's a Mormon thing. They force their kids to be independent and make their own money, no matter what. I know of other Mormon families who are very wealthy and the kids have to move out to go on their mission for 2 years (which they all do at 19, mostly the boys)
Girls go to school and wait for their boyfriend to come home, who they've been with since they were allowed to start dating at 16 and is rarely NOT a mormon too. It often seems too that they've been chosen for them a couple of years before 16. Look at the whole situation with Chad and Kesley. It seemed to be orchestrated by the parents but I think the kids found it very awkward. Same with Shari and that guy she was dating who has also disappeared. I find the whole thing really bizarre tbh.

[krcmum62]

I believe it's Ruby and Kevin that have that rule. I seem to remember them in a vlog talking about how you never know what could happen in someone else's house.



I think a lot of it boils down to Mormon culture. Having a lot of kids is very common in their circles.

Well, yeah, the Mormon church does encourage large families. But there's more to it than just that with the Griffiths. Ruby had multiple miscarriages and they were not financially stable, and yet she kept getting pregnant. Ellie says she and Jared were _broke_, and living on potatoes, and some weeks had to choose between gas in the car and food. She may have been exaggerating, but I do believe they weren't financially stable. And she was getting fertility treatments. The Mormon church doesn't encourage people to have babies that they can't afford, and birth control isn't forbidden. I personally think that the Griffiths drive to reproduce is related to their dysfunction. It's obviously just my opinion, of course.
And about Russell's leg-- the femur is the strongest bone in the body. And babies bones aren't fully calcified, so they are more flexible than adult bones. They're harder to break. That whole story of hers is fishy AF. I can't imagine how she got out of the ER without being reported to CPS. Moms who show up with untreated fractures get side eyed _hard_.

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So many of the griffiths girls telling stories about them and their newlywed husbands being completely broke and not having enough food to eat... I always wondered why didn’t family help them? They were still young at that point, early twenties, why couldn’t their parents help out a bit, that’s a normal family thing to do... and then when ruby said she had that rule “no children can live with me once they turn 18” it started to make sense, that how she must have been raised. So no matter how much you are struggling they won’t help... who cares if you are literally starving and on the brink of homelessness.

I think it's a Mormon thing. They force their kids to be independent and make their own money, no matter what. I know of other Mormon families who are very wealthy and the kids have to move out to go on their mission for 2 years (which they all do at 19, mostly the boys)
Girls go to school and wait for their boyfriend to come home, who they've been with since they were allowed to start dating at 16 and is rarely NOT a mormon too. It often seems too that they've been chosen for them a couple of years before 16. Look at the whole situation with Chad and Kesley. It seemed to be orchestrated by the parents but I think the kids found it very awkward. Same with Shari and that guy she was dating who has also disappeared. I find the whole thing really bizarre tbh.

[boychik0830]

I created a Tik Tok account to expose them and show people how bad the Griffiths/Frankes are, it's @exposethe8passengers and it's crazy how people are still backing her up. So many twelve year olds backing her up and arguing with people in the comments. One of them alerted my account to Ruby so I'll probably have to make up another account once Ruby reports it.

I haven't done anything wrong. Not bringing your child a lunch when they forget it, making my child sleep on a bean bag when they play a prank on their brother, taking away electronics for the whole summer because one of the kids one doing things on a ipad that they weren't supposed to be doing, threatening to cut my childs stuffed animal if they won't stop cutting things, not feeling sad when my children tell me that they have no friends and sending my child away to a outdoor camp for a couple of months when they have behavior problems are normal things to do. I sure lots of parents would agree with me and I bet everyone on youtube agrees with me too. How could anyone say I'm abusing my kids when they don't anything about us.

[lmmomSD]

I created a Tik Tok account to expose them and show people how bad the Griffiths/Frankes are, it's @exposethe8passengers and it's crazy how people are still backing her up. So many twelve year olds backing her up and arguing with people in the comments. One of them alerted my account to Ruby so I'll probably have to make up another account once Ruby reports it.

Not to be a meanie, and I'm not a mod, but FYI we're not supposed to talk here about things we do on other sites. You can say you saw the account, and talk about the minions defending her, but admitting here that you created the account, or commented on their videos or Twitter or IG is against YTMD site rules. You can get your account deleted/banned for it. You're new as a poster according to your "Amateur" status. So don't stress. Just letting you know. We obviously can't control what accounts you create elsewhere, but just letting you know.

[hahawhat]

in julies video she showed everyone RVs and last one was ruby’s, it was the smallest one and ruby was “on a phone call” so she couldn’t go in but don’t worry shari made sure to let julie know there’s enough beds for all of them..


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[PumpkinHead]

Ruby finally posted on instagram. It's a picture of the family with the caption "At the end of the day all that really matters is already here."

She really is going to act like none of this ever happened, isn't she?

[ghostboy]

omg i love you guys
this is so comprehensive and thorough
like you're bringing up stuff i don't even remember

anyone have any ideas for bringing this shit together? thread, google doc etc? people will miss a lot of this if it's in the regular threads

[amyfalafalagain]

How is this happening? Everything back to normal? She filmed the entire new vlog and didn’t say a word. You hear the kids referring to her behind the camera, and you can hear her chuckle. What’s going on... she can’t honestly get away with all that?

[tebbyvines]

New video posted. No sign of Ruby. Just a sickly sweet pizza party in an attempt to make us change their opinion about them.

Shari accusing Julie of cheating when they were racing to solve the Rubix cube because she couldn't let anyone else in her family have a moment of glory.

[Happy+Charlie]

New video posted. No sign of Ruby. Just a sickly sweet pizza party in an attempt to make us change their opinion about them.

Shari accusing Julie of cheating when they were racing to solve the Rubix cube because she couldn't let anyone else in her family have a moment of glory.

If Shari can't win, the other person is cheating, smh. She's not as mature as she thinks she is. Hopefully the view dislikes will outweigh the likes, as has been occurring and Ruby will see even if she's a ghost taping, people still don't like it.

On a side note, Chad and Julie could be twins, same smile and facial structure.

[Audrey3196]

Shari is such a painfully sore loser. At 17 you should be able to handle your sibling beating you in a rubix cube contest. She may be able to take care of her siblings but she is incredibly immature for her age in so many areas. God forbid any of her siblings he good at anything without her making fun of them, making excuses, and using the fact that she’s older to prove how much smarter she is. This is completely irrelevant but it’ll be interesting so see how Shari handles the college admission process especially is any of her classmates get into top tier schools and Shari doesn’t.

[Audrey3196]

Shari is such a painfully sore loser. At 17 you should be able to handle your sibling beating you in a rubix cube contest. She may be able to take care of her siblings but she is incredibly immature for her age in so many areas. God forbid any of her siblings he good at anything without her making fun of them, making excuses, and using the fact that she’s older to prove how much smarter she is. This is completely irrelevant but it’ll be interesting so see how Shari handles the college admission process especially is any of her classmates get into top tier schools and Shari doesn’t.

[notyomama]

Set up pizza and ice cream party to "prove" that she feeds them, then a set up came of beach ball with the older 4, in the perfectly CLEAN hall, 2 younger wild kid no where to be seen. Such a rowdy game of ball.... o.o so lively. Like I wonder what their books will say about all this staged bullshit as adults, unless they all just fall in line but I see the rebellion in Julie. BE FREE MY CHILD.

Anyways even the way the kids ate the pizza and Shari dishes out the ice cream was so fucking staged. GAG ME. I can't handle this family. Yes you feed them now lets all forget about the psycho ass rules and regulations you've put on your kids for years... NOT.

Also I love that shari had to race 2 different people because she couldn't accept that she lost. LULZ.

[rulatows000]

New vlog today. Ruby completely stayed out of the frame the whole vlog, probably thinking if she just shows the kids she won't get disliked. Showed the kids playing rubix cubes, playing with a beach ball, and eating pizza and ice cream. Reminded me of the vlog with the kids getting the surprise package - only showing a perfect, happy little family for the most part. I did get annoyed that Shari was insisting that Julie cheated, then Abby had to take her side and start calling Julie a cheater, too. Lol, then she demands to have a rematch and has to lose three times before she accepts that she can't beat her siblings. It's ok to be competitive, but geez, just admit you lost! She's seventeen, and can't just let her twelve year old sister have one moment of glory, without trying to take it from her.

The only thing that really stood out to me was how much stuff they had at their school. They went to pick up their things from school and Shari said all their stuff took up an entire table. I'm guessing that they probably all hoard stuff at school because Ruby doesn't let them keep anything at home. They had water bottles, notebooks, clothes, binders, folders, lunch boxes, snacks, etc. It looked like Christmas with all that stuff they had. I can just imagine Ruby's face behind the camera, seeing her kids actually having things. I'm guessing its all going in the trash off camera.

[tebbyvines]

Ruby posted on her Instagram story. Again acting like nothing has or is happening. Her family acting all perfect and eating lunch outside.

Chad in his football jersey. As someone has said on here previously, how long will it take for Ruby to find an excuse to take football away from him.

She didn't show her face or say anything. Which is a good thing to be honest, her head is so big these days it wouldn't fit in the frame.

It's amazing the lengths she's going to, to make all this controversy go away. Her loss of 30k subscribers is a tell tale sign that this isn't going away any time soon.