8 Passengers: Emotional Abuse Galore & Making Kids Sleep on The Floor | Part 17

[imoverit]

Not sure the Business Insider article was the best idea either. At least one reaction to the article is already up on YT. It will probably blow over eventually but I don't think the firestorm is over yet. I am surprised that sponsors dropped them which is a pretty bit hit financially from what I understand. Not been a good year for them-Rubydo failing, YT money taking a major drop, now the sponsorship deal.

Sponsors must have received a good deal of push back from viewers to stop working with them and I think there are a few out there that might keep up this pressure. I don't think there is anything they can do about a consumer who has a negative opinion on who a sponsor chooses to represent a product they are buying. I also image a company can see videos of their family that has questionable content when it comes to discipline.

The key to why they are able to continue their business is YouTube. I haven't understood why a petition wasn't more focused on YouTube since if you demonetized their channel, this family is done. There were videos of their children that would violate YouTube policy and it has been going on for a period of time, especially with Chad.

YouTube doesn’t allow content that endangers the emotional and physical well-being of minors. A minor is defined as someone under the legal age of majority -- usually anyone younger than 18 years old in most countries/regions.

The sponsors are the most realistic thing I want to end for them, that's the money-maker. They may be threatening people left and right but they can't stop me or others from calmly, politely, and only once each notifying a company they have worked with of the cold facts about Ruby that might make the family an undesirable representative of their brand. And I do not take reporting youtube videos lightly at all but I will make sure to be aware of which ones of theirs I see that genuinely have grounds for reporting for the child abuse option (it's not many, despite the awful things she shows). So yeah demonetization is all I can hope for with this situation because Ruby and Kevin are not going to choose to stop exploiting their kids for profit on their own, and YouTube doesn't seem to give a damn about this stuff.

[tebbyvines]

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Here is a petition to get 8passengers demonetized. Hopefully, it'll work like the CPS one did.

[boychik0830]

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Here is a petition to get 8passengers demonetized. Hopefully, it'll work like the CPS one did.

The CPS one never work otherwise the parents would have gotten in trouble. When cps came they didn't see any problems with anything and ruby felt embarrassed that they came over.

[TopazBlues]

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Here is a petition to get 8passengers demonetized. Hopefully, it'll work like the CPS one did.

I don't know how much good that will do. Personally, I'd prefer if the children's names were not included in the petition. In my opinion, it's hard to say you want privacy for the children while also using their names and detailing what you are explaining to be their experiences of neglect and emotional abuse. (I am using "you" generally. Not sure if this is yours or not). This petition could remain on the internet forever and I wouldn't want it to be something that follows them their whole life. Especially with the #SaveChad2020

[lmmomSD]

Unpopular opinion, I know, but Kevin actually has a point that people are using the kids to make a name for themselves. Or at least using their videos. The reaction channels are getting lots of views and attention. Doesn't make what he and Ruby do ok, but it makes us who don't have a stake except caring that these kids are manipulated and embarrassed for money less likely to be listened to.
It's a double edged sword. We want people to pay attention, but people who are monetizing videos about the treatment of the kids are need to be clear about their motives.

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[Issy1129]

Ruby saying that she abided by Chad’s wishes to remove his own bedroom and bathroom doors is such bologna. If in fact she did let him, that would be wrong too. She should have told her teenage son, no, your doors stay on, they are important to maintain privacy in a house of 8.

I also am surprised people aren’t bringing up the horribly embarrassing Good Nights pull up underwear ad/video for Russell’s bedwetting. Ruby had only one reason for filming that: money. Children may go along with those things now and then completely regret them in the future. They don’t have the capability to make sound decisions like adults do, nor should they be expected to.

[imoverit]

Ruby saying that she abided by Chad’s wishes to remove his own bedroom and bathroom doors is such bologna. If in fact she did let him, that would be wrong too. She should have told her teenage son, no, your doors stay on, they are important to maintain privacy in a house of 8.

I also am surprised people aren’t bringing up the horribly embarrassing Good Nights pull up underwear ad/video for Russell’s bedwetting. Ruby had only one reason for filming that: money. Children may go along with those things now and then completely regret them in the future. They don’t have the capability to make sound decisions like adults do, nor should they be expected to.

When she says things like that about the kids making choices, I always imagine it went something like "Chad, one way you can show us that you are being transparent and we can trust you would be to remove your bedroom and bathroom doors. Do you want to do that?" and of course if he doesn't say yes then he's not complying or being cooperative. The kid has about as much choice as when these mormon parents ask their 7 year olds if they want to join the religion that the whole family is part of. Also, there is NO reason at ALL to remove a bathroom door, that doesn't even go along with her narrative that he did it to be transparent and trustworthy.

[Namm]

I remember a time when things were good between Ruby and Chad and it even went to the point where Ruby didn't dare to say anything to Chad when he did wrong.
Chad had a group of boys that he hang with and they would go to eachothers houses for fun. Ruby asked him why they never came to their house. According to Chad, his friends said that Frankes house was boring and there were no entertainment. Ruby then made an effort to be a fun mom but also learned down the road to distance her children from their friends (who aren't vloggers or family).

[imoverit]

There latest video is so boring I don't have much to say, except that it should clearly be labeled 'for kids' (as most of their channel should) and is not, and I don't understand the point of having that system at all if there are no enforced repercussions for failure to correctly label it, or way for viewers to somehow 'report' a video as for kids.

[sheltiefan]

I was looking at the comments on yesterday's vlog and people kept mentioning coming from a YT channel. A channel with over 2 million subscribers did a vlog about family channels. I haven't had a chance to check them out yet. Ruby, the article you did with Business Insiders hasn't got this forgotten yet.

[sheltiefan]

The vlog I mentioned earlier today had the part about 8 passengers was at the end. Considering that the person did 3 channels, Ruby can't sic her lawyers on them. Surprise surprise the comments are closed now on yesterday's vlog. They were up till at least late last night. To be honest, I was surprised they stayed up that long with all the people commenting they had came over there due to the other vlog.

Views are under 100,000 for yesterday's vlog-Ruby has to be concerned that this hasn't blown over. I think the family thought the article was going to make everything great again. Oh Grandma Griff and Beau Griff shared the picture from the article talking about how Ruby and family came under attack-guess that might explain why family members weren't standing up for the kids.

[Catface2]

They really are stupid if they think that article paints them in a good light. Quite the opposite. Idiots..the lot of them

[lurkerthatposts]

I know the article was a bit ago, but no one brought this up...

She claims Chad was able to earn back his bed/room at any point during his punishment if he was 'good enough' and it just so happened to take 7 months. In the video, though, she said all the children have a MINIMUM 6 month length of the punishment they are given... She's literally DIRECTLY contradicting herself! How can she think anyone will give credit to her article when it's obvious she's completely making shit up to get out of deep water?

I'm not sure what she expected from this, but I'm glad she's still struggling, and hopefully about to crash.

[Parktown]

The article did nothing but throw Chad under the bus again! Both parents claimed to the whole world that Chad is physically and emotionally unbalanced! Wonderful coming from your own parents to a world platform! No wonder that kid plays out constantly! Also if Chad did have all those choices why didn’t Ruby say so in the video why did she purposely leave it out and gleefully grinned,enjoying his discomfort?
We have been watching too long Ruby and listened to your mouth too long too, you can’t hide your character any longer! Don’t undermine our intelligence rather be humble like you often preach to others and admit your iron fist parenting has caused bad behaviour in your home not the other way around! Take a hard look at yourself before pointing a finger at your children even now!!!!
I will admit CPS is not needed in that home but emotional abuse isn’t something they look for usually and hard to detect e.g. threatening to decapitate soft toy so yes CPS can’t pick up on emotional control!

[boychik0830]

I think most people think they have changed as on their latest vlog which was just uploaded today it had more likes than dislikes and most of the comments saying they are a wonderful family and to not listen to the haters. do people really think they have changed and the people on youtube making claims about them are lying. They should not be allowed to film them unless they are allowed to have their electronics back. They are allowed to be in a video because it "benefits" ruby. I think ruby wanted to have Shari and I think she only had the other kids so she could exploit them for money on youtube.

[mikaydean]

I think most people think they have changed as on their latest vlog which was just uploaded today it had more likes than dislikes and most of the comments saying they are a wonderful family and to not listen to the haters. do people really think they have changed and the people on youtube making claims about them are lying. They should not be allowed to film them unless they are allowed to have their electronics back. They are allowed to be in a video because it "benefits" ruby. I think ruby wanted to have Shari and I think she only had the other kids so she could exploit them for money on youtube.

I am not really pro 8 passengers but to say that she has the children purely for youtube goes a bit too far. I think she did exactly what was expected of her by her parents and church and that is to take as many children as possible. Youtube is just something that came after it and has nothing to do with the number of children.

Youtube, I think was a big hype among mormon mothers a few years ago because about 4 or 5 years ago those family channels with lds families suddenly came out of the blue. And quite a few formed groups as friends on youtube. Without youtube some would not even have known each other I think. Many of these families have changed in recent years. Fathers who quit their jobs so that earnings suddenly became important ( I think if a few fathers decide to go back to work it will be taken over again and become a little hype under the fathers).
As a result, the activities they did were getting bigger and wilder. After which the children suddenly received home schooling because Youtube and school do not go together and youtube is more important because its money. Children who miss their friends and freedom, which puts pressure on the children and so there are now quite a few STRANGE family channels on YouTube. I think if someone (and no I don't feel like it ) puts all those channels side by side, there is even a certain year when fathers stopped working because of youtube. I don't think all family channels are from Mormons but it is striking how many there are and how the families have changed with their youtube fame. And unfortunately many have changed to their disadvantage.

[boychik0830]

[media] [/media] someone posted the what we haven't told you video again which I'm glad about as it will hopefully get 8 passengers in trouble.

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This is the vlog where she talks about Eve missing preschool because she didn’t wake up in time.

[tarheelgirl-71]

Honestly, I can't wait for Shari to get out in the real world. She is so sheltered. Nobody apart from her siblings is going to take her bossy attitude! It's gonna get her in serious trouble.

You are so right. She’s in for a rude awakening! That little bubble she’s been living in will not help her in the non LDS world. It’s going to be a huge shock. I knew she’d never go to a college out of state. I understand that kids change their minds. When she was talking about being a lawyer, I thought that was a great goal, but didn’t think she would do it. Also, have any of the Griffith girls even finished college? I’m not criticizing anyone for that, just making a point that she will probably get married before she finishes school. That’s their MO. They are supposed to get married and start having kids ASAP! I think Julie might have finished college.


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[Josette]

Honestly, I can't wait for Shari to get out in the real world. She is so sheltered. Nobody apart from her siblings is going to take her bossy attitude! It's gonna get her in serious trouble.

You are so right. She’s in for a rude awakening! That little bubble she’s been living in will not help her in the non LDS world. It’s going to be a huge shock. I knew she’d never go to a college out of state. I understand that kids change their minds. When she was talking about being a lawyer, I thought that was a great goal, but didn’t think she would do it. Also, have any of the Griffith girls even finished college? I’m not criticizing anyone for that, just making a point that she will probably get married before she finishes school. That’s their MO. They are supposed to get married and start having kids ASAP! I think Julie might have finished college.


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Yeah, Julie is a nurse, so I think we can safely assume she finished. Bonnie has mentioned more than once that she went to a hairdressing school, but I don't recall if she ever said she finished.

To become an RN you must have an associate's degree in nursing at minimum (ADN), but you'll have better prospects if you have a bachelor's of science in nursing (BSN). You can also opt for a nursing diploma from a hospital-based program, such as nursing school, but at best you'll only be qualified for entry level nursing jobs which pay significantly less.


https://nursejournal.org/registered-nur ... come-a-rn/