8 Passengers: Emotional Abuse Galore & Making Kids Sleep on The Floor | Part 17

[Josette]

I think Chad's sand art is pretty revealing as to how he feels about all the stuff that's being going down with his mom's YT channel.

[boychik0830]

I think Chad's sand art is pretty revealing as to how he feels about all the stuff that's being going down with his mom's YT channel.

I think chad is hinting that he doesn't like how ruby treats him without actually saying it. i think he wants to get away from ruby but doesn't know how to do it and is trying to signal that he needs help by leaving hints.

[Jamie Love]

In regards to Ruby's Insta story:
again with the clothes, sneakers, feet, buts all on the same counter that this family eats off of and at times puts food directly on the same table. WHY?!? honestly, I don't get why people do this, its disgusting and especially with this family when they have a habit of not regularly bathing or taking care of their hygiene.

on another note why is Ruby always recording and never in any activity with her kids?? she records them playing trivia and not participating, she tried (and failed) to get involved with charades, that singing game the kids and Kevin were playing one day (the one where they were singing Bohemian Rhapsody) etc. Like woman, spend time with your kids instead of just forcing them to grow up as soon as they hit preschool. then she's going to have the nerve and look back and think "where did the time go" or wonder why she doesn't have any fond memories of her children . there's so many things that kids are exposed to now that 10-20 years ago they weren't, especially in today's current political climate. Just let them be kids and worry about the adulting later when they need it.

sorry for my rant lol i'm not a parent yet and this irritates me about past generations, they expect everything Is like it was 20 years ago when its not.

[Namm]

Honestly, I can't wait for Shari to get out in the real world. She is so sheltered. Nobody apart from her siblings is going to take her bossy attitude! It's gonna get her in serious trouble.

You are so right. She’s in for a rude awakening! That little bubble she’s been living in will not help her in the non LDS world. It’s going to be a huge shock. I knew she’d never go to a college out of state. I understand that kids change their minds. When she was talking about being a lawyer, I thought that was a great goal, but didn’t think she would do it. Also, have any of the Griffith girls even finished college? I’m not criticizing anyone for that, just making a point that she will probably get married before she finishes school. That’s their MO. They are supposed to get married and start having kids ASAP! I think Julie might have finished college.


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Shari is aware that she cannot not get away with her bullying in the real world without consequences that's why she stays home. I think this she is so smart image, stays home and reads a lot of books is a faux and coverage for her not getting along with kids her age.
It's been revealed that she's not smarter than average but she's a miss know it all, likes to argue and believes most of the times that she's right. Her siblings have shown more than once being smarter and having the ability to think outside the box.

I honestly don't see her going to college and if she does, she'll probably drop out but I could be wrong.
She went from wanting to be a lawyer to a personal trainer which is okay it's not easy knowing what you want that age, but still, huge difference between the two.

[tebbyvines]

Shari on Kevins latest Instagram post about Chad... It annoyed me because Chad was getting praise and she commented on it, with a story about herself.

Again, she can't let her siblings get any glory. [IMG]//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202006 ... b2c6fb.jpg[/IMG]

[Gigi7]

Shari on Kevins latest Instagram post about Chad... It annoyed me because Chad was getting praise and she commented on it, with a story about herself.

Again, she can't let her siblings get any glory.

I think all this damage control they are doing with Chad is affecting Shari.
She’s not used to not being the center of attention, she’s not used to not getting praise. So she’s acting like a 6 year old and when her father is focusing on her brother she ties to divert his attention “daddy daddy look at me, I drive safely”.

I think (maybe hope?) that after the bean bag-gate they actually had half a second of reflection and decided that maybe they were too hard on their kids (maybe I’m just delusional). But I think that it’s possible that even if it’s just for the videos, they’re treating the kids better to show them “happy” and that is new to Shari. She’s used to being the only one who’s treated well. She’s used to her siblings being told off. And maybe that’s where she places her self worth, thinking that them being punished aso shows that she’s better. So now she’s lost and is desperately looking for other ways to get this validation.

[Happy+Charlie]

Shari on Kevins latest Instagram post about Chad... It annoyed me because Chad was getting praise and she commented on it, with a story about herself.

Wow, she really can't stand not being the center of attention. I don't see her finishing college, she'll become a mom within 2 years of graduating high school and begin vlogging married life.

[boychik0830]

Shari on Kevins latest Instagram post about Chad... It annoyed me because Chad was getting praise and she commented on it, with a story about herself.

Again, she can't let her siblings get any glory.

I think all this damage control they are doing with Chad is affecting Shari.
She’s not used to not being the center of attention, she’s not used to not getting praise. So she’s acting like a 6 year old and when her father is focusing on her brother she ties to divert his attention “daddy daddy look at me, I drive safely”.

I think (maybe hope?) that after the bean bag-gate they actually had half a second of reflection and decided that maybe they were too hard on their kids (maybe I’m just delusional). But I think that it’s possible that even if it’s just for the videos, they’re treating the kids better to show them “happy” and that is new to Shari. She’s used to being the only one who’s treated well. She’s used to her siblings being told off. And maybe that’s where she places her self worth, thinking that them being punished aso shows that she’s better. So now she’s lost and is desperately looking for other ways to get this validation.

I am surprised that she was never the center of attention before considering that she is the favorite child.

[imoverit]

Shari on Kevins latest Instagram post about Chad... It annoyed me because Chad was getting praise and she commented on it, with a story about herself.

Again, she can't let her siblings get any glory.

I think all this damage control they are doing with Chad is affecting Shari.
She’s not used to not being the center of attention, she’s not used to not getting praise. So she’s acting like a 6 year old and when her father is focusing on her brother she ties to divert his attention “daddy daddy look at me, I drive safely”.

I think (maybe hope?) that after the bean bag-gate they actually had half a second of reflection and decided that maybe they were too hard on their kids (maybe I’m just delusional). But I think that it’s possible that even if it’s just for the videos, they’re treating the kids better to show them “happy” and that is new to Shari. She’s used to being the only one who’s treated well. She’s used to her siblings being told off. And maybe that’s where she places her self worth, thinking that them being punished aso shows that she’s better. So now she’s lost and is desperately looking for other ways to get this validation.

I think this is spot on. It’s driving her crazy, even though it’s just a façade!

This just in (on Instagram), Kevin with his PhD is better at a trivia game than his children who don’t even have a high school education. How is he even exuding smugness even over this. Also that boring string of stories really gave a scary look into how sheltered AND uneducated every one of those kids are.

[YTIG60]

Vlog view numbers are way down (less than a hundred thousand with the last uploaded vlog) and this has to be shocking to Ruby and Kevin. Lawyers and YouTube can't stop this loss of viewers. I'd be surprise to see them having any brand deals in the near future.

Also, watching Julie's vlog today, I see Ruby in it. You might think her sisters would recognize Ruby is toxic right now and would avoid filming with her to ensure she doesn't impact their own channels. Bonnie's strict parenting is somewhat similar to Ruby, she has been demonetized, so I'd be careful if I were her.

[ghostboy]

sorry to be That Poster, but since i don't recognise a lot of the usernames on here lately, i'll beat the same dead horse i always do for everyone that missed it the first thousand times:

please stop condemning shari to a lifetime of being ruby and getting at her for showing signs of having grown up in an abusive environment. especially since she's still living in it. re the julie/bread thing: julie getting the brunt of the family's resentment has been discussed at length here and doesn't need to turn into a "lets rip shari to pieces" session.

do i condone shari's behaviour? of course not. but it's a lot more complicated than just "oMg ShArI sUcKz!!1" please give the girl a break.

most people on here are in agreement that these kids are having their privacy massively violated every single day, and that extends to this. idc if she has her own channel - shari isn't in a position to consent to having her behaviour analysed by thousands of strangers. she's still a kid - go easy on her publicly please.

i was an asshole at her age. i came from a shitty environment and had a lot to unlearn going into young adulthood. she has the right to do that privately. you can't complain about ruby abusing her kids rights and then subject shari to all this shit. she's sixteen - we have no reason to call her names here.

[Namm]

sorry to be That Poster, but since i don't recognise a lot of the usernames on here lately, i'll beat the same dead horse i always do for everyone that missed it the first thousand times:

please stop condemning shari to a lifetime of being ruby and getting at her for showing signs of having grown up in an abusive environment. especially since she's still living in it. re the julie/bread thing: julie getting the brunt of the family's resentment has been discussed at length here and doesn't need to turn into a "lets rip shari to pieces" session.

do i condone shari's behaviour? of course not. but it's a lot more complicated than just "oMg ShArI sUcKz!!1" please give the girl a break.

most people on here are in agreement that these kids are having their privacy massively violated every single day, and that extends to this. idc if she has her own channel - shari isn't in a position to consent to having her behaviour analysed by thousands of strangers. she's still a kid - go easy on her publicly please.

i was an asshole at her age. i came from a shitty environment and had a lot to unlearn going into young adulthood. she has the right to do that privately. you can't complain about ruby abusing her kids rights and then subject shari to all this shit. she's sixteen - we have no reason to call her names here.

I also come from a shitty narcissistic family, never behaved like that at her age. Where and who has called her names? Please name them or report them.
I don't know who you're referring to but I haven't seen anyone condemn more than Shari's actions and behaviour. Shari is horrible to her siblings, sometimes worse than Ruby. Her impact is going to affect the way her siblings remember their childhood. I see nothing wrong with criticising a 17 year olds bad behaviour.
A 17 year old can difference right from wrong and she knows what she's doing. The only thing she may not understand is where its all coming from but she knows she's putting them down to feel better. Can you imagine the stress her siblings are going through sometimes because of her.

[ghostboy]

sorry to be That Poster, but since i don't recognise a lot of the usernames on here lately, i'll beat the same dead horse i always do for everyone that missed it the first thousand times:

please stop condemning shari to a lifetime of being ruby and getting at her for showing signs of having grown up in an abusive environment. especially since she's still living in it. re the julie/bread thing: julie getting the brunt of the family's resentment has been discussed at length here and doesn't need to turn into a "lets rip shari to pieces" session.

do i condone shari's behaviour? of course not. but it's a lot more complicated than just "oMg ShArI sUcKz!!1" please give the girl a break.

most people on here are in agreement that these kids are having their privacy massively violated every single day, and that extends to this. idc if she has her own channel - shari isn't in a position to consent to having her behaviour analysed by thousands of strangers. she's still a kid - go easy on her publicly please.

i was an asshole at her age. i came from a shitty environment and had a lot to unlearn going into young adulthood. she has the right to do that privately. you can't complain about ruby abusing her kids rights and then subject shari to all this shit. she's sixteen - we have no reason to call her names here.

I also come from a shitty narcissistic family, never behaved like that at her age. Where and who has called her names? Please name them or report them.
I don't know who you're referring to but I haven't seen anyone condemn more than Shari's actions and behaviour. Shari is horrible to her siblings, sometimes worse than Ruby. Her impact is going to affect the way her siblings remember their childhood. I see nothing wrong with criticising a 17 year olds bad behaviour.
A 17 year old can difference right from wrong and she knows what she's doing. The only thing she may not understand is where its all coming from but she knows she's putting them down to feel better. Can you imagine the stress her siblings are going through sometimes because of her.

okay, but people respond to abuse differently, for all kinds of different reasons - like external support, school, other family dynamics, access to health care, genetic predisposition, nutrition or lack of, sleep or lack of etc. all of those things are out of her full control right now. i'm really genuinely glad that you didn't behave like that at her age, but comparing the responses of two kids to their abuse isn't cool.

shari gets called bossy, sheltered and a know-it-all all the time lol. people constantly say that she's in for a shock when she goes to college and that she's not gonna handle it well, that she's gonna be just like ruby and have way too many children and abandon her education. imagine reading fully grown adults talking about you that way when you were her age.

she's a kid who's been put on youtube for half her life and thinks it's normal. she's grown up under the complete control of ruby and had to raise half her siblings, thinking she has to be perfect to obtain any kind of attention. the fact that we even know who she is in the first place is all part of her having her privacy violated. ultimately grown adults can come here and severely impact a kids self-esteem if they ever end up reading here because said kid pissed them off in some way. that's fucked up and the kind of thing people are mad at ruby for exposing her children to.

and yeah, i agree with you, she IS going to severely stress out her siblings. there are no two ways about that. older kids in abusive situations often do and it's heartbreaking. it happened to me and i still haven't forgiven my sibling fully. but would i have wanted grown adults on the internet ripping him to pieces about it? no. because that's fucked up and an invasion of a kids privacy.

[Kattiness Everdeen]

sorry to be That Poster, but since i don't recognise a lot of the usernames on here lately, i'll beat the same dead horse i always do for everyone that missed it the first thousand times:

please stop condemning shari to a lifetime of being ruby and getting at her for showing signs of having grown up in an abusive environment. especially since she's still living in it. re the julie/bread thing: julie getting the brunt of the family's resentment has been discussed at length here and doesn't need to turn into a "lets rip shari to pieces" session.

do i condone shari's behaviour? of course not. but it's a lot more complicated than just "oMg ShArI sUcKz!!1" please give the girl a break.

most people on here are in agreement that these kids are having their privacy massively violated every single day, and that extends to this. idc if she has her own channel - shari isn't in a position to consent to having her behaviour analysed by thousands of strangers. she's still a kid - go easy on her publicly please.

i was an asshole at her age. i came from a shitty environment and had a lot to unlearn going into young adulthood. she has the right to do that privately. you can't complain about ruby abusing her kids rights and then subject shari to all this shit. she's sixteen - we have no reason to call her names here.

I also come from a shitty narcissistic family, never behaved like that at her age. Where and who has called her names? Please name them or report them.
I don't know who you're referring to but I haven't seen anyone condemn more than Shari's actions and behaviour. Shari is horrible to her siblings, sometimes worse than Ruby. Her impact is going to affect the way her siblings remember their childhood. I see nothing wrong with criticising a 17 year olds bad behaviour.
A 17 year old can difference right from wrong and she knows what she's doing. The only thing she may not understand is where its all coming from but she knows she's putting them down to feel better. Can you imagine the stress her siblings are going through sometimes because of her.

I agree. I got my hand slapped for analyzing Shari's behavior before, but she is months away from being an adult now. We have had threads devoted to several other public figures at a significantly younger age, like JoJo Siwa, and she is a positive light in this world. I get that Shari has been raised in a neglectful and abusive environment (so was I), and I feel terrible for her, but even teens have ownership over their terrible behavior. She is the person she is, because nobody has held her accountable before. I don't see how strangers pretending she isn't damaging the formation of 5 other children's personalities/egos/empathy/etc. helps anyone, including Shari.

I am just saying, if you aggressively jab a fork at a child's eye at 18 or suggest beating a kindergartener, you can't just post it on the internet and not expect some serious repercussions. Perhaps a 17 yr old should be taught that it is not acceptable BEFORE her birthday....

[ghostboy]

sorry to be That Poster, but since i don't recognise a lot of the usernames on here lately, i'll beat the same dead horse i always do for everyone that missed it the first thousand times:

please stop condemning shari to a lifetime of being ruby and getting at her for showing signs of having grown up in an abusive environment. especially since she's still living in it. re the julie/bread thing: julie getting the brunt of the family's resentment has been discussed at length here and doesn't need to turn into a "lets rip shari to pieces" session.

do i condone shari's behaviour? of course not. but it's a lot more complicated than just "oMg ShArI sUcKz!!1" please give the girl a break.

most people on here are in agreement that these kids are having their privacy massively violated every single day, and that extends to this. idc if she has her own channel - shari isn't in a position to consent to having her behaviour analysed by thousands of strangers. she's still a kid - go easy on her publicly please.

i was an asshole at her age. i came from a shitty environment and had a lot to unlearn going into young adulthood. she has the right to do that privately. you can't complain about ruby abusing her kids rights and then subject shari to all this shit. she's sixteen - we have no reason to call her names here.

I also come from a shitty narcissistic family, never behaved like that at her age. Where and who has called her names? Please name them or report them.
I don't know who you're referring to but I haven't seen anyone condemn more than Shari's actions and behaviour. Shari is horrible to her siblings, sometimes worse than Ruby. Her impact is going to affect the way her siblings remember their childhood. I see nothing wrong with criticising a 17 year olds bad behaviour.
A 17 year old can difference right from wrong and she knows what she's doing. The only thing she may not understand is where its all coming from but she knows she's putting them down to feel better. Can you imagine the stress her siblings are going through sometimes because of her.

I agree. I got my hand slapped for analyzing Shari's behavior before, but she is months away from being an adult now. We have had threads devoted to several other public figures at a significantly younger age, like JoJo Siwa, and she is a positive light in this world. I get that Shari has been raised in a neglectful and abusive environment (so was I), and I feel terrible for her, but even teens have ownership over their terrible behavior. She is the person she is, because nobody has held her accountable before. I don't see how strangers pretending she isn't damaging the formation of 5 other children's personalities/egos/empathy/etc. helps anyone, including Shari.

I am just saying, if you aggressively jab a fork at a child's eye at 18 or suggest beating a kindergartener, you can't just post it on the internet and not expect some serious repercussions. Perhaps a 17 yr old should be taught that it is not acceptable BEFORE her birthday....

i don't want to be a divisive asshole here but your way of analysing shari's behaviour generally isn't the way i was getting mad at lol
- editing this for clarification - that's a compliment, not me telling you to butt out lol

[Kattiness Everdeen]

I also come from a shitty narcissistic family, never behaved like that at her age. Where and who has called her names? Please name them or report them.
I don't know who you're referring to but I haven't seen anyone condemn more than Shari's actions and behaviour. Shari is horrible to her siblings, sometimes worse than Ruby. Her impact is going to affect the way her siblings remember their childhood. I see nothing wrong with criticising a 17 year olds bad behaviour.
A 17 year old can difference right from wrong and she knows what she's doing. The only thing she may not understand is where its all coming from but she knows she's putting them down to feel better. Can you imagine the stress her siblings are going through sometimes because of her.

I agree. I got my hand slapped for analyzing Shari's behavior before, but she is months away from being an adult now. We have had threads devoted to several other public figures at a significantly younger age, like JoJo Siwa, and she is a positive light in this world. I get that Shari has been raised in a neglectful and abusive environment (so was I), and I feel terrible for her, but even teens have ownership over their terrible behavior. She is the person she is, because nobody has held her accountable before. I don't see how strangers pretending she isn't damaging the formation of 5 other children's personalities/egos/empathy/etc. helps anyone, including Shari.

I am just saying, if you aggressively jab a fork at a child's eye at 18 or suggest beating a kindergartener, you can't just post it on the internet and not expect some serious repercussions. Perhaps a 17 yr old should be taught that it is not acceptable BEFORE her birthday....

i don't want to be a divisive asshole here but your way of analysing shari's behaviour generally isn't the way i was getting mad at lol
- editing this for clarification - that's a compliment, not me telling you to butt out lol

I think pointing out that Shari is sheltered, bossy, and thinks she knows it all are observations/facts, not name calling. I just watched a video where Shari repeatedly called herself bossy. If someone shows you who they are, believe them.

I still have hope Shari will rise above her upbringing one day, but I can't ignore who she is now. The chance that she will clean up her behavior in the next 8 months is slim. Generational or cyclical neglect/abuse is a very strong force to overcome, particularly in a family like this. Statistically, Shari is more likely to repeat the cycle than not. I didn't, but I only had a narcissistic mother to content with, and a whole host of functional families around me that nurtured me when she did not. Shari is not allowed to experience functional families, because she is sheltered. I don't see how this is name calling.

[ghostboy]

I agree. I got my hand slapped for analyzing Shari's behavior before, but she is months away from being an adult now. We have had threads devoted to several other public figures at a significantly younger age, like JoJo Siwa, and she is a positive light in this world. I get that Shari has been raised in a neglectful and abusive environment (so was I), and I feel terrible for her, but even teens have ownership over their terrible behavior. She is the person she is, because nobody has held her accountable before. I don't see how strangers pretending she isn't damaging the formation of 5 other children's personalities/egos/empathy/etc. helps anyone, including Shari.

I am just saying, if you aggressively jab a fork at a child's eye at 18 or suggest beating a kindergartener, you can't just post it on the internet and not expect some serious repercussions. Perhaps a 17 yr old should be taught that it is not acceptable BEFORE her birthday....

i don't want to be a divisive asshole here but your way of analysing shari's behaviour generally isn't the way i was getting mad at lol
- editing this for clarification - that's a compliment, not me telling you to butt out lol

I think pointing out that Shari is sheltered, bossy, and thinks she knows it all are observations/facts, not name calling. I just watched a video where Shari repeatedly called herself bossy. If someone shows you who they are, believe them.

I still have hope Shari will rise above her upbringing one day, but I can't ignore who she is now. The chance that she will clean up her behavior in the next 8 months is slim. Generational or cyclical neglect/abuse is a very strong force to overcome, particularly in a family like this. Statistically, Shari is more likely to repeat the cycle than not. I didn't, but I only had a narcissistic mother to content with, and a whole host of functional families around me that nurtured me when she did not. Shari is not allowed to experience functional families, because she is sheltered. I don't see how this is name calling.

again, unless you've been harsher at some point - it isn't
there's a huge difference in what you're doing here and how toxic some other people are being

[bk513]

Long time lurker finally posting here. Seeing how little the kids knew during the trivia game on Ruby's story was disheartening. Abby and Julie specifically struggled way more than they should have. It's sad to see how much their complete lack of social interaction is hurting them from an intelligence standpoint.

[sheltiefan]

Either the lawyer or their YT manager must have advised not uploading to Shari's channel anymore at least for the time being. She hasn't unload since the big blowout. Maybe they feared that people would post that Ruby is making her do it for more money.

[tarheelgirl-71]

New vlog, so again, here are my notes!:

• Ruby talking about food again. Probably trying to prove a point that she actually feeds her kids.

• Why do all the food portions look so small!

• Shari completely taking over the food planning list. Whilst her siblings sat there looking bored and not included. Giving her lame ideas and not really letting anyone else say anything.

• It's ironic Chad loves Bonnie's food when Bonnie's portions are ridiculously small and not good at all.

• Shari rolling her eyes at Julie and picking on her for eating more bread. Leave the girl alone! We can't all be obsessed with unhealthy weight plans!

• Shari telling her Mother who to take to the store and then telling Russell he is no help.

Note: at this point, Shari is starting to irritate me. Why does she think she is so superior against all her siblings?

Ruby can talk all she wants... feeding her kids for one trip, doesn't make up for years... and it needs to continue for the rest of time, if she wants to try to make up for it!

They are small.. gotta cook just enough to have enough to feed all 8 of them, without having leftovers, even if it means someone is hungry later. (Ruby logic)

Yeah, Shari was annoying with the list... everyone seemed to not want turkey and cheese, but, what did they end up with? Shari's choice! Turkey and cheese!

I think maybe Bonnie may have given him as much as he wanted to eat maybe? And it was something different than 1 chicken leg... so, it was good. haha!

I honestly think Shari is just p!ssed, that Julie can eat so much, and still be thin... while Shari is on her strict diet... goes to the gym, and isn't tall and think like Julie. Don't get me wrong, Shari isn't fat... but, she isn't tall, and for Shari, that means she's "fat" in her book. So, she's mad she can't eat like that, because she'd put on weight... while Julie doesn't. Which isn't Julie's fault, and Shari needs to mind her own business. Julie is probably going through a growth spurt (can you imagine if she is and she gets a bit taller than she is??? Shari will be LIVID! And I will be living for it!).

Shari needs to be full on punished. I am so tired of her being bossy and getting away with all the crap she does, while all the other kids get in trouble. They need to take her driving privileges away from her... her phone... and make HER sleep on the floor for 7 months. Maybe then she'd straighten up.

I agree with everything you just said.

Shari definitely needs to be punished. She’s pretty smart mouthed with Ruby at times. Look how much Chad gets punished! It’s ridiculous. Chad’s punishments are extreme.

I think you’re right about Shari being jealous of Julie being tall and thin. I’m so happy to see that Julie seems more confident. She’s really grown up a lot. Physically and emotionally.


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