Tannerites/YAWI: Failing our kids as they fail homeschool | Part 2

[Kattiness Everdeen]

As much as this family annoys me, I kind of felt bad for them when they found out insurance wouldn’t cover the flood damage. But aside from that I wonder if Allie is bipolar. She seems to either be super depressed or be manic. Usually when bipolar people experience episodes of mania they feel super happy and hyper and inspired and on top of the world which is exactly how Allie acted towards the end of the vlog when she realized cooking gave her a purpose it’s kind of sad how on top of the world she felt realizing being mindful and doing a hobby makes her feel like she has a purpose. She also kind of admitted she had no idea what she was doing with her life but also seemed like she was against going to school. Idk why people now a days think they could make a living without going to college. And what does she mean she likes doing YouTube? She barely talks in the vlogs and looks unamused 24/7. I bet she will take the lazy route out and make her own YouTube channel once her depression hits rock bottom.

She already has her own channel....Allie the Rose.....that is where her 10 dates series is. I think her depression (or bank account) already hit rock bottom.

I honestly think she felt the need to make the channel, to appease her parents. Maybe it was a stipulation to continue living at home, for her to make a channel and also to be the kids nanny? Wouldn't put it past S&J at this point..

Her 10 date series, if any of you have watched it... have you noticed, every date she's gone on, little by little she's come out of her shell? I'm not saying I hope she marries one of the guys she's on a date with.. but, I know she will probably be pushed to by her parents, who only dream of marrying off their kids and having grandchildren.

100%! Allie has never showed any interest in making YT videos. I agree she is SLOWLY loosening up on the dating series. I don't even know what I hope for her anymore. She desperately needs to grow up and find herself away from her parents. She isn't prepared for real life (two jobs she quit in a month?), but she will never grow up while trapped in that house of horrors. And if she marries now, I can see her getting into an awful loveless or even abusive partnership she will regret nearly instantly.

I actually think they forced Branson to do YT as well, he just accepted the job with a little more enthusiasm (& privilege). Johnny made him the channel when he wasn't even allowed access to electronics and living out of the country. I also think Branson was left in charge of the kids/house often (like Allie is), back when S&J were off on couple's trips every week. Hell, they made him oversee Christmas all by himself, while they cruised for two weeks alone! He had the benefit of being "useful" for other tasks though, so wasn't merely a house slave like Allie is now. For 2 stay at home parents, with 3 stay-at-home adult children, and a new live-in chef......hiring an "assistant/producer" seems way over the top. What does she even do, hold the camera for them when their arm gets tired? They must be preparing to skip out on the kids again.

[lip]

Yeah, looks like Allie is set up for a unhappy life. - She may be 18 on paper, but by her dress sense, her princess dream and her the inability to hold a job for more than two weeks, she's basicly a 14yo in a mature body.

Her turning up in some of those date videos with a kiddy-rucksack on her back made me suck in air trough my teeth. LOL

[rulatows000]

Allie obviously doesn't enjoy Youtube at all if she continues commenting in every vlog that she's not doing "anything" whatsoever. She does not consider it a career or something she wants to do with her life because she keeps saying she's not doing anything with her life. I'm guessing her parents pushed her to create a channel and she just went with it, even though she doesn't find any fulfillment or pleasure in it at all. Still ridiculous that they're not promoting her channel at all. How is anyone suppose to know she has a channel when her parents are keeping mum about it, despite promoting all of their other kids' channels? She probably just feels like more of a failure because her Youtube channel only has 5k subscribers. If anyone in the family mentioned it in a vlog or posted about it on social media, her views and subs would skyrocket. Plus, her channel name is Allie the Rose, instead of Allie Tannerites, most people aren't going to be able to find that without knowing the name of it.

If she is finding that she likes cooking so much - why not go to culinary school? A lot of culinary programs can be done in only two years and it's a lot of hands on work, a lot different from the school she's used to and dislikes. I really think the only way she's going to get out of this funk she's in, is if she goes to school. She's obviously not prepared for a real job, her Disney plans fell through, and her parents are going to sabotage anything she does and try their best to keep her sheltered at home and being a nanny. She needs to move out and go to school. Being around people her own age and experiencing the world outside of her own little Mormon bubble will do her a world of good. Of course, I know it's just wishful thinking and I doubt she'll ever go to college because her parents never instilled a value of education in her and she just blew her life savings on a car that she probably never uses since she's at home all day. I just don't see how she's going to get out of that house by sitting around being a nanny and cooking assistant. Going to school would give her an excuse to leave and will give her the maturity and responsibility to be able to handle adult responsibilities, a job, and living on her own.

[cranberryjuice05]

I think there’s some sort of guilt in allie that she would feel super guilty if she left her family bc who knows what sarah and Johnny tells her behind the scenes. She’s probably going to be her parents assistant until she’s like 30. I could see her ruining her 20’s living by her parents rules. That’s what happens when you’re super delusional
And think becoming a Disney princess is that easy. I saw in an Instagram post of hers she said Disneyland is her home away from home because she can be herself there. So she has an excuse to be childish there? Also I couldnt agree more with the fact she looked ridiculous carrying that pink backpack on her dates. That is why I have a hard time
believing that those guys are actually into her. Does she think that’s cute? I really thought it was some kind of Disney backpack.

[cranberryjuice05]

I think all of the kids will end up in unhealthy relationships where it’s mental abuse or as far as physical abuse. I mean look at Johnny and Sarah and Branson and Mara. You can already see how unhealthy Johnny and Sarah’s relationship is through camera but I could only imagine what kind of abuse goes on off camera. It’s also obvious Branson has some kind of control over Mara already. Then in today’s vlog Allie is so quick to saying how shes excited to have kids like girl you don’t even have a man yet slow down. I feel like these Mormons think getting married means success meanwhile they look miserable in their marriages because they’re not mentally healthy and anyone who marries them is probably mentally unhealthy too or a very nice person who’s ready to be walked all over on.

[cranberryjuice05]

Oh lord did anyone see the video Brandon and Mara just uploaded? The building a cup fort vid... The comments they made throughout the video were soooo childish and they acted childish through the whole video. They really did become a replica of Johnny and Sarah ever since they got married . Acting childish and not wanting to grow up seems to be a common pattern in this family. Sarah with her obsession with babies, Allie with her obsession with Disney and thinking she’s a “princess” and she’s 18 years old, Branson and Johnny straight up act like canyon and azbury and theyre like triple their age and Danielle probably acts the least childish for her age out of all of them but you can tell she still struggles living with these awkward folks. I can only imagine how the younger kids are going to act as they get older considering all the older folks around them act so childish. It’s kind of like Johnny and Sarah are taking out their anger for the fact the kids technically robbed them of their younger years since they got married and pregnant at 17. But that ain’t anyone’s fault but Sarah and johnny’s. Whenever something bad happens to them they do hold themselves accountable but in an extremely childish manner. On top of it if their obsession with kids and acting like a kid wasn’t obvious enough they made their old YouTube vlog channel “tannerites” dedicated to a whole kids channel now. So creepy and weird and just they all really need to grow up

[rulatows000]

I think all of the kids will end up in unhealthy relationships where it’s mental abuse or as far as physical abuse. I mean look at Johnny and Sarah and Branson and Mara. You can already see how unhealthy Johnny and Sarah’s relationship is through camera but I could only imagine what kind of abuse goes on off camera. It’s also obvious Branson has some kind of control over Mara already. Then in today’s vlog Allie is so quick to saying how shes excited to have kids like girl you don’t even have a man yet slow down. I feel like these Mormons think getting married means success meanwhile they look miserable in their marriages because they’re not mentally healthy and anyone who marries them is probably mentally unhealthy too or a very nice person who’s ready to be walked all over on.

I've always been curious about Johnny and Sarah's relationship. Have they ever explained the whole story of how they had Branson at 17 and why they eloped? I was looking at Johnny's Instagram page and saw a post he made a few months ago about their 22nd anniversary. He said there was a lot of stuff about what happened between them that he didn't want to discuss, but it sounds like they broke up after having Branson. He mentioned that Sarah and Branson were living 800 miles away from him and that they had taken completely different paths in life. Then, on a visit to see Branson, Sarah randomly begged him to run away and marry her and they just did it. Just seems so strange to me. Sarah strikes me as a very needy person and Johnny has just never seemed super affectionate or in love with her at all, just very possessive and controlling. Always seemed like they were just kind of forced together by circumstances. Where were their parents during all of this? Were both of them raised Mormon? In one of their recent vlogs Johnny's mom announced that she's getting remarried. Does anyone know what happened to his dad? Feel like, besides his brother, I've never seen much of his side of the family in the vlogs. Sarah seems close to her parents, though. Did they remarry, too? I know she's got a younger brother who looks like he's barely a teenager and I wondered if they ever explained the age difference or if he's her biological brother or half brother. Just curious about their family lives and why both of them seem to have so many issues as adults.

[cranberryjuice05]

I think all of the kids will end up in unhealthy relationships where it’s mental abuse or as far as physical abuse. I mean look at Johnny and Sarah and Branson and Mara. You can already see how unhealthy Johnny and Sarah’s relationship is through camera but I could only imagine what kind of abuse goes on off camera. It’s also obvious Branson has some kind of control over Mara already. Then in today’s vlog Allie is so quick to saying how shes excited to have kids like girl you don’t even have a man yet slow down. I feel like these Mormons think getting married means success meanwhile they look miserable in their marriages because they’re not mentally healthy and anyone who marries them is probably mentally unhealthy too or a very nice person who’s ready to be walked all over on.

I've always been curious about Johnny and Sarah's relationship. Have they ever explained the whole story of how they had Branson at 17 and why they eloped? I was looking at Johnny's Instagram page and saw a post he made a few months ago about their 22nd anniversary. He said there was a lot of stuff about what happened between them that he didn't want to discuss, but it sounds like they broke up after having Branson. He mentioned that Sarah and Branson were living 800 miles away from him and that they had taken completely different paths in life. Then, on a visit to see Branson, Sarah randomly begged him to run away and marry her and they just did it. Just seems so strange to me. Sarah strikes me as a very needy person and Johnny has just never seemed super affectionate or in love with her at all, just very possessive and controlling. Always seemed like they were just kind of forced together by circumstances. Where were their parents during all of this? Were both of them raised Mormon? In one of their recent vlogs Johnny's mom announced that she's getting remarried. Does anyone know what happened to his dad? Feel like, besides his brother, I've never seen much of his side of the family in the vlogs. Sarah seems close to her parents, though. Did they remarry, too? I know she's got a younger brother who looks like he's barely a teenager and I wondered if they ever explained the age difference or if he's her biological brother or half brother. Just curious about their family lives and why both of them seem to have so many issues as adults.

That is so true! I think since both of their parents were divorced, they must’ve each had some kind of trauma and a bad childhood which makes them the mentally off (and possibly narcissistic) people they are today and you’re totally right with the fact Johnny doesn’t look that into Sarah at all and is just controlling and possessive (kind of exactly how Branson acts towards Mara). I feel like they just stayed together to prove a point to everyone who tried to say they wouldn’t work out when they were teenagers. Every here and there they always brag about how they’ve been together for like 22 years or something meanwhile nobody cares bc they’re so awkward and weird they used to wear a “porn kills love” tshirt. Sooo weird. Sarah would wear that shirt all the time in the old house and they used to always preach about how porn ruins relationships... like no shit it doesn’t take many brain cells to realize that. I wonder if they had fights back in the day over one of them watching it and that’s why they used to preach about it either way I find them so weird and they need to get out of their little bubble they live in. It’s shocking to me that the Johnny and Sarah have been to Thailand (and apparently other places) and they allow Branson to live in France for two years but all the other kids are held captive in that house.

[cranberryjuice05]

Did anyone find their Instagram birthday post for Lizzy a bit weird? Saying her “bum” came out first when Sarah gave birth to her like ew we did not need to visualize or know that. I can’t even tell who wrote that caption because it’s something both Johnny and Sarah would say.

[rulatows000]

The thing I really don't understand about them having this live-in chef and hiring an assistant, is how they are comfortable having all these random people in their house around their kids. I don't watch all of their videos, but did they ever even introduce or explain who TR or the assistant are and how they know them? It seems like a lot of Youtubers do this - where they just have all sorts of random, non-related people living in their house alongside their young children - and it just blows my mind. Like Colleen Ballinger who has her creepy adult male friend who constantly makes sexual comments living in her house with her two year old son. Or Annie and Haley Leblanc with their adult male manager who seems to double as their nanny being around them 24/7. I'm not trying to accuse TR or the assistant of anything, but it's just not necessary to have anyone living in your house who is not family, especially when you've got very young kids running around all the time. I would definitely prefer to be safe than sorry and I could not imagine ever having anyone, even my own siblings, constantly being in the house unsupervised around my children. The only way I might allow it is if there's no other option and I need a nanny/caretaker for my kids. In which case I'd make sure there's a full background check, they are with a reputable nanny/caretaker business, and have plenty of experience or proof of trustworthiness. No way I'd invite some random adults to come live us just because I can't be bothered to cook or hold my own camera. Just seems very selfish to me. Sarah and Johnny are more than capable of cooking for their kids and running their own Youtube channel, plenty of families do it. It just gave me a bad feeling watching how close Allie and TR seem to be getting with cooking together and later TR was in the swimming pool playing with the kids. You can just never be too careful about this stuff and you need to make sure you really, really know and trust someone before inviting them to live your house.

[chrisb332]

I honestly don’t think daniell is all that put together. If you look at her social media she looks like she struggles deeply with depression and looks like she has some sort of identity issue. It’s easy to come off as put together in a 15 minute vlog. And going to beauty school isn’t anything amazing lmao. This whole family is lazy lazy lazy. I really wonder if any of them will go to college and get a REAL career.

Dont put down beauty school people. A career is a career, She found something she was passionate for and at 16 is working towards it. Thats not lazy. Lazy would be her staying at home all day and not doing anything. I do think she has struggled with mental health issues, but i also believe all the kids have some sort of mental issues going on. Why isnt going to beauty school something amazing? Not everyone has to go to a University to get a degree, if she is going to work hard as a beauty school attendee and then work in a salon thats pretty great. At least she has a plan financially to provide for herself. I have a Masters degree and have worked hard, but i guarantee you I would find Beauty school impossible because I can barely even braid my hair. I dont think Beauty school is an lazy pass on life. Please dont disparage peolpe who are choosing alternate paths if they are working hard and making an effort.

[lmmomSD]

The thing I really don't understand about them having this live-in chef and hiring an assistant, is how they are comfortable having all these random people in their house around their kids. I don't watch all of their videos, but did they ever even introduce or explain who TR or the assistant are and how they know them? It seems like a lot of Youtubers do this - where they just have all sorts of random, non-related people living in their house alongside their young children - and it just blows my mind. Like Colleen Ballinger who has her creepy adult male friend who constantly makes sexual comments living in her house with her two year old son. Or Annie and Haley Leblanc with their adult male manager who seems to double as their nanny being around them 24/7. I'm not trying to accuse TR or the assistant of anything, but it's just not necessary to have anyone living in your house who is not family, especially when you've got very young kids running around all the time. I would definitely prefer to be safe than sorry and I could not imagine ever having anyone, even my own siblings, constantly being in the house unsupervised around my children. The only way I might allow it is if there's no other option and I need a nanny/caretaker for my kids. In which case I'd make sure there's a full background check, they are with a reputable nanny/caretaker business, and have plenty of experience or proof of trustworthiness. No way I'd invite some random adults to come live us just because I can't be bothered to cook or hold my own camera. Just seems very selfish to me. Sarah and Johnny are more than capable of cooking for their kids and running their own Youtube channel, plenty of families do it. It just gave me a bad feeling watching how close Allie and TR seem to be getting with cooking together and later TR was in the swimming pool playing with the kids. You can just never be too careful about this stuff and you need to make sure you really, really know and trust someone before inviting them to live your house.

Asher Angel has his "choreographer" living with him too, apparently, or at least at his beck and call. It's especially problematic for me, when there is such rampant abuse in the entertainment industry, and his family still associated with and traveled with the guy who was accused of raping one of the boys he was managing. These parents, Youtubers and regular stage parents seem to get dollar signs in their eyes and not only become blind to what is occurring around them, they seem to get lazy too and willing to outsource everything but the credit for raising their kids.

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[cranberryjuice05]

I honestly don’t think daniell is all that put together. If you look at her social media she looks like she struggles deeply with depression and looks like she has some sort of identity issue. It’s easy to come off as put together in a 15 minute vlog. And going to beauty school isn’t anything amazing lmao. This whole family is lazy lazy lazy. I really wonder if any of them will go to college and get a REAL career.

Dont put down beauty school people. A career is a career, She found something she was passionate for and at 16 is working towards it. Thats not lazy. Lazy would be her staying at home all day and not doing anything. I do think she has struggled with mental health issues, but i also believe all the kids have some sort of mental issues going on. Why isnt going to beauty school something amazing? Not everyone has to go to a University to get a degree, if she is going to work hard as a beauty school attendee and then work in a salon thats pretty great. At least she has a plan financially to provide for herself. I have a Masters degree and have worked hard, but i guarantee you I would find Beauty school impossible because I can barely even braid my hair. I dont think Beauty school is an lazy pass on life. Please dont disparage peolpe who are choosing alternate paths if they are working hard and making an effort.

Sorry but before you come at me all offended maybe you should do your research. Barbers, cosmetologists, and hair dressers make an average of 22k a year. Wtf can you do with that money? Good luck living in section 8 housing. You can’t just consider all jobs “good”. You have to look into the salary. We probably have different point of views in how to make a living and that’s fine. I just can’t see myself making 22k a year and being satisfied. To at least make 50k you need to go to college/university and NOT BE LAZY. Like I said earlier, if you don’t want to graduate from college or a university to make a better living then I will think YOU ARE LAZY. What job can give you at least 50k max a year without a college degree? Basically nothing. Do your research please and don’t attack me when you don’t know anything about making a living. I come from a family way wealthier than Johnny and Sarah and my parents have real jobs and we were taught to not be lazy since we were kids.
As a person seeing this family I see laziness written all over their faces. And you really can’t make me think otherwise

[cranberryjuice05]

The thing I really don't understand about them having this live-in chef and hiring an assistant, is how they are comfortable having all these random people in their house around their kids. I don't watch all of their videos, but did they ever even introduce or explain who TR or the assistant are and how they know them? It seems like a lot of Youtubers do this - where they just have all sorts of random, non-related people living in their house alongside their young children - and it just blows my mind. Like Colleen Ballinger who has her creepy adult male friend who constantly makes sexual comments living in her house with her two year old son. Or Annie and Haley Leblanc with their adult male manager who seems to double as their nanny being around them 24/7. I'm not trying to accuse TR or the assistant of anything, but it's just not necessary to have anyone living in your house who is not family, especially when you've got very young kids running around all the time. I would definitely prefer to be safe than sorry and I could not imagine ever having anyone, even my own siblings, constantly being in the house unsupervised around my children. The only way I might allow it is if there's no other option and I need a nanny/caretaker for my kids. In which case I'd make sure there's a full background check, they are with a reputable nanny/caretaker business, and have plenty of experience or proof of trustworthiness. No way I'd invite some random adults to come live us just because I can't be bothered to cook or hold my own camera. Just seems very selfish to me. Sarah and Johnny are more than capable of cooking for their kids and running their own Youtube channel, plenty of families do it. It just gave me a bad feeling watching how close Allie and TR seem to be getting with cooking together and later TR was in the swimming pool playing with the kids. You can just never be too careful about this stuff and you need to make sure you really, really know and trust someone before inviting them to live your house.

I am so glad you pointed that out bc I was literally going to mention that after I watched today’s vlog. I totally get predatory vibes from TR (if that’s the chubby dude who was cooking ramen in today’s vlog). It was so weird when he asked azbury questions about the egg. Let’s hope TR doesn’t touch any of the kids cause then they will turn out 10x worse and traumatized than they already are. On top of it Johnny and Sarah would probably STILL never bring the kids to therapy knowing how much they isolate the kids from the world.

[HeyKatie]

I think TR is related to them ive heard them make comments about his wife and kids.


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[chrisb332]

I honestly don’t think daniell is all that put together. If you look at her social media she looks like she struggles deeply with depression and looks like she has some sort of identity issue. It’s easy to come off as put together in a 15 minute vlog. And going to beauty school isn’t anything amazing lmao. This whole family is lazy lazy lazy. I really wonder if any of them will go to college and get a REAL career.

Dont put down beauty school people. A career is a career, She found something she was passionate for and at 16 is working towards it. Thats not lazy. Lazy would be her staying at home all day and not doing anything. I do think she has struggled with mental health issues, but i also believe all the kids have some sort of mental issues going on. Why isnt going to beauty school something amazing? Not everyone has to go to a University to get a degree, if she is going to work hard as a beauty school attendee and then work in a salon thats pretty great. At least she has a plan financially to provide for herself. I have a Masters degree and have worked hard, but i guarantee you I would find Beauty school impossible because I can barely even braid my hair. I dont think Beauty school is an lazy pass on life. Please dont disparage peolpe who are choosing alternate paths if they are working hard and making an effort.

Sorry but before you come at me all offended maybe you should do your research. Barbers, cosmetologists, and hair dressers make an average of 22k a year. Wtf can you do with that money? Good luck living in section 8 housing. You can’t just consider all jobs “good”. You have to look into the salary. We probably have different point of views in how to make a living and that’s fine. I just can’t see myself making 22k a year and being satisfied. To at least make 50k you need to go to college/university and NOT BE LAZY. Like I said earlier, if you don’t want to graduate from college or a university to make a better living then I will think YOU ARE LAZY. What job can give you at least 50k max a year without a college degree? Basically nothing. Do your research please and don’t attack me when you don’t know anything about making a living. I come from a family way wealthier than Johnny and Sarah and my parents have real jobs and we were taught to not be lazy since we were kids.
As a person seeing this family I see laziness written all over their faces. And you really can’t make me think otherwise

I apologize for coming off as if I was attacking you, that was not my intention. My intention was to add another a perspective on this. I was not offended by your original post, it really does not address me or anyone I know personally as I am not a hairdresser nor are any of my close friends or family are hairdressers. I do feel like you are judging me before you know me and saying I dont know how to make a living. I do have a Masters degree, along with a Bachelors degree, so I am in full support and advocate of attending college. But what I dont support is going to college just for the sake of it. College students are going through a growing issue of mounting debt and the Bachelors degree is no longer enough to support graduates in many field. There are plenty of careers that can support you without a college degree. Not getting a college degree does not make you lazy. Also around 41% of college graduates end up working in a job that does not require a college degree. And personally, I would rather be happy than rich. In Utah a single person can live off of 22k a year, it is feasible. Sure you have to sacrifice some of the finer things in life, but if youre determined there is the ability to do so. Again, I am not trying to attack you but share an alternate perspective. I have done a lot of research on how to live and different careers, and I firmly believe that if the traditional college path doesnt work there are so many option out there. As you said i cant make you think otherwise, and therefore please dont take this post as me trying to I am fully okay with agreeing to disagree. I am just sharing my opinion and viewpoint.

[cranberryjuice05]

Dont put down beauty school people. A career is a career, She found something she was passionate for and at 16 is working towards it. Thats not lazy. Lazy would be her staying at home all day and not doing anything. I do think she has struggled with mental health issues, but i also believe all the kids have some sort of mental issues going on. Why isnt going to beauty school something amazing? Not everyone has to go to a University to get a degree, if she is going to work hard as a beauty school attendee and then work in a salon thats pretty great. At least she has a plan financially to provide for herself. I have a Masters degree and have worked hard, but i guarantee you I would find Beauty school impossible because I can barely even braid my hair. I dont think Beauty school is an lazy pass on life. Please dont disparage peolpe who are choosing alternate paths if they are working hard and making an effort.

Sorry but before you come at me all offended maybe you should do your research. Barbers, cosmetologists, and hair dressers make an average of 22k a year. Wtf can you do with that money? Good luck living in section 8 housing. You can’t just consider all jobs “good”. You have to look into the salary. We probably have different point of views in how to make a living and that’s fine. I just can’t see myself making 22k a year and being satisfied. To at least make 50k you need to go to college/university and NOT BE LAZY. Like I said earlier, if you don’t want to graduate from college or a university to make a better living then I will think YOU ARE LAZY. What job can give you at least 50k max a year without a college degree? Basically nothing. Do your research please and don’t attack me when you don’t know anything about making a living. I come from a family way wealthier than Johnny and Sarah and my parents have real jobs and we were taught to not be lazy since we were kids.
As a person seeing this family I see laziness written all over their faces. And you really can’t make me think otherwise

I apologize for coming off as if I was attacking you, that was not my intention. My intention was to add another a perspective on this. I was not offended by your original post, it really does not address me or anyone I know personally as I am not a hairdresser nor are any of my close friends or family are hairdressers. I do feel like you are judging me before you know me and saying I dont know how to make a living. I do have a Masters degree, along with a Bachelors degree, so I am in full support and advocate of attending college. But what I dont support is going to college just for the sake of it. College students are going through a growing issue of mounting debt and the Bachelors degree is no longer enough to support graduates in many field. There are plenty of careers that can support you without a college degree. Not getting a college degree does not make you lazy. Also around 41% of college graduates end up working in a job that does not require a college degree. And personally, I would rather be happy than rich. In Utah a single person can live off of 22k a year, it is feasible. Sure you have to sacrifice some of the finer things in life, but if youre determined there is the ability to do so. Again, I am not trying to attack you but share an alternate perspective. I have done a lot of research on how to live and different careers, and I firmly believe that if the traditional college path doesnt work there are so many option out there. As you said i cant make you think otherwise, and therefore please dont take this post as me trying to I am fully okay with agreeing to disagree. I am just sharing my opinion and viewpoint.

I appreciate the clarification and no bad feelings since you cleared things up lol. That is true Utah is very cheap. I’m from New York so it is super expensive here. The price of those mansions you get in Texas for just 200k costs 1million here in New York. And just half the size of those homes (a medium sized home) costs about 500k in New York. In New York it’s set in stone that if you don’t go to college you’re a bum. I guess the New York attitude in me is really showing lol. And you’re right, props to Danielle for not being a lazy bum like the rest of her fam.

[tebbyvines]

Can I add something here.

They call their dog 'Charlie the poof' and have an Instagram called that but do they not realise that a 'poof' is a slang term or a horrible term for a gay person? Sorry if I've got this wrong, I live in the UK and over here poof means that.

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[ctx2002]

Can I add something here.

They call their dog 'Charlie the poof' and have an Instagram called that but do they not realise that a 'poof' is a slang term or a horrible term for a gay person? Sorry if I've got this wrong, I live in the UK and over here poof means that.

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As an American, I'm aware of that term and its slang meaning, but it's very outdated. Unless made obvious as an insult, most people under the age of 50 wouldn't see that word and associate it with a gay person, but rather as a form of 'puff' like puff of air. Their nickname for him still doesn't really make sense, though.

[cranberryjuice05]

So towards the end of today’s vlog I think I heard Daniell say “yo yo yo what’s lit fam” then allie was acting like it’s embarrasing to say that and it’s not considered “cool”. Like does Allie not know how embarrasing white people are and the stuff they say is just as weird and embarrasing? I never hear her call out her embarrasing family members on the whitest things they say. Double standard much?