yeah, hazzel has experienced so much instability i bet she thinks it's normal. and all the people walking in and out of her life must be so confusing and sad for her. i hope that she is also getting some therapy for all of the trauma she has experienced the last couple of years, and hopefully haylee can stay single for a while for the sake of herself and her kids.Lucky-one wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:18 pmYes, so true. I feel so sad for Hazzel. She’s such a sweet kid and there’s been so much instability and trauma in the past few years. The divorce with randy wasn’t pretty either. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Haylee has terrible taste in men.sadasfuck wrote:Lucky-one wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:01 pm
You may be right, and I hope you are, but after watching haylee for years, I think she would say that he moved out if he did. I think she wants her subscribers to think that he did move out, which is why she was vague about it. Where would he go if he moved out? He can’t afford to pay the rent at two apartments, plus bills, plus car payments/insurance, plus child support to two different mothers. I guess he could be staying with a friend or his ex, but I doubt it.
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i hope so too, especially after he allegedly destroyed haylees things and told hazzel to shut the fuck up. if he is still there, i feel so terrible for hazzel. i can imagine she is scared of him, especially since this isn't the first time he's treated her poorly. i just hope that she doesn't think that it's normal for men to treat her like shit.
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I agree. I’ve always thought of haylee as a smart mom who puts her daughter first. I also hope she stays single until she gets her life on the right track. Hazzel lost her father figure, her dogs, haylee has been hospitalized a few times, a new sibling, dan coming into her life and having a bad relationship with her mom... that’s a lot.sadasfuck wrote:yeah, hazzel has experienced so much instability i bet she thinks it's normal. and all the people walking in and out of her life must be so confusing and sad for her. i hope that she is also getting some therapy for all of the trauma she has experienced the last couple of years, and hopefully haylee can stay single for a while for the sake of herself and her kids.Lucky-one wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:18 pmYes, so true. I feel so sad for Hazzel. She’s such a sweet kid and there’s been so much instability and trauma in the past few years. The divorce with randy wasn’t pretty either. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Haylee has terrible taste in men.sadasfuck wrote:
i hope so too, especially after he allegedly destroyed haylees things and told hazzel to shut the fuck up. if he is still there, i feel so terrible for hazzel. i can imagine she is scared of him, especially since this isn't the first time he's treated her poorly. i just hope that she doesn't think that it's normal for men to treat her like shit.
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I hope the reason for her being vague about Dann isn't because she took him back. We all know she isnt a private person when she aired their dirty laundry. For someone who I assume needs money, she still hardly uploads.
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now that i'm thinking about it it's strange that she's being so vague, especially after what she posted on her instagram story about him having pictures of his ex in graphic detail lmao. i think she also said something a long the lines of that the pictures could've been old, but like, why would you have any pictures of your ex on your phone, especially nudes?? but even if the pictures were old or whatever, she should still leave after how he has treated her kids with the favoritism and cussing hazzel out. if she is still with him or getting money from him it just goes to show she probably doesn't care about her kids as much as we like to think, which is just sad.mayhemmomof5 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:12 pm I hope the reason for her being vague about Dann isn't because she took him back. We all know she isnt a private person when she aired their dirty laundry. For someone who I assume needs money, she still hardly uploads.
i was also curious about money, and how she was gonna afford to live at the apartment and support 2 kids on her own (or we assume she's on her own). according to her social blade, she only makes up to $16k a year, which is not a lot. maybe her parents are helping her? her kids are also very spoiled, especially hazzel, as haylee is always buying them shit.
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in the last vlog haylee posted she was showing hazzels new desk and she had a picture of red (her old dog) in a frame on her desk and that made me so sad, like she really misses her dogs and probably everyone else whose walked out of her life because of her mother's poor choicesLucky-one wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:04 pmI agree. I’ve always thought of haylee as a smart mom who puts her daughter first. I also hope she stays single until she gets her life on the right track. Hazzel lost her father figure, her dogs, haylee has been hospitalized a few times, a new sibling, dan coming into her life and having a bad relationship with her mom... that’s a lot.sadasfuck wrote:yeah, hazzel has experienced so much instability i bet she thinks it's normal. and all the people walking in and out of her life must be so confusing and sad for her. i hope that she is also getting some therapy for all of the trauma she has experienced the last couple of years, and hopefully haylee can stay single for a while for the sake of herself and her kids.Lucky-one wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:18 pm
Yes, so true. I feel so sad for Hazzel. She’s such a sweet kid and there’s been so much instability and trauma in the past few years. The divorce with randy wasn’t pretty either. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Haylee has terrible taste in men.
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It would not surprise me if he was still there. Last time they had issues she said they were working on co-parenting, and then it was cohabitating, but the implication was that they split up even though clearly they were still together
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I haven’t posted on here in a while but wow I’m not surprised that Haylee and Dann are done.
She should’ve never got with anyone after what Randy did to her. Poor Hazzel was probably traumatized from seeing Randy in bed with another woman but Haylee just said fuck it lemme bring another man into her life. I dont know the details of what happened with them cz I don’t really follow her anymore but I don’t feel bad for her at all. She clearly has mental health issues and chose a man over bettering herself and her daughter’s life. She was literally living in her parent’s freaking basement then she just meets a guy and moves him in...what is wrong with these youtube moms?!
She should’ve never got with anyone after what Randy did to her. Poor Hazzel was probably traumatized from seeing Randy in bed with another woman but Haylee just said fuck it lemme bring another man into her life. I dont know the details of what happened with them cz I don’t really follow her anymore but I don’t feel bad for her at all. She clearly has mental health issues and chose a man over bettering herself and her daughter’s life. She was literally living in her parent’s freaking basement then she just meets a guy and moves him in...what is wrong with these youtube moms?!
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Besides the fact that shes severely mentally ill and suicidal, i dont feel bad for her either. shes the one that put herself into these situations, dragging her children through the mud. disgraceful. shes fucking 25 but still acts like shes 15. Haylee seriously needs to grow the hell up and get a reality check! her poor children are always getting the short end of the stick because shes selfish and childish. because of her shitty decisions, hazzel has witnessed another man cheating on her mother, losing so much family, having men and so many others come in and out of her life, her mother is suicidal, and her whole life is unstable overall. Haylee needs to be a woman and a mother and actually focus on herself and her kids without needing to depend on others.Resting_Bitch_Face wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:01 am I haven’t posted on here in a while but wow I’m not surprised that Haylee and Dann are done.
She should’ve never got with anyone after what Randy did to her. Poor Hazzel was probably traumatized from seeing Randy in bed with another woman but Haylee just said fuck it lemme bring another man into her life. I dont know the details of what happened with them cz I don’t really follow her anymore but I don’t feel bad for her at all. She clearly has mental health issues and chose a man over bettering herself and her daughter’s life. She was literally living in her parent’s freaking basement then she just meets a guy and moves him in...what is wrong with these youtube moms?!
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I don’t think hazzels Halloween costume is appropriate for her age at all. Maybe I’m just a weenie though. I know my 6 year old wanted to watch nightmare before Christmas and we got about 15 mins in and she asked to turn it off she was scared. Maybe haylee thinks she’s a cool mom for that idk.
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I agree. haylee said that it was what hazzel wanted to be but like, your her mother and you can tell her no lol. i think haylee tries to be more like a friend sometimes, or she feels guilty because she knows shes a shitty mom and has done shitty things to her kids. hazzel should also not be reading creepypastas because they are just not age appropriate, even if she doesnt "get scared", but im glad someone else agrees with me. I would never let my 8 year old child dress up like that. 12, maybe, but not an 8 year old little girl.Maxxinsta96 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:05 am I don’t think hazzels Halloween costume is appropriate for her age at all. Maybe I’m just a weenie though. I know my 6 year old wanted to watch nightmare before Christmas and we got about 15 mins in and she asked to turn it off she was scared. Maybe haylee thinks she’s a cool mom for that idk.
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Oh and also, what happened between her and dann was that apparently he cheated on her with his ex while she was in the hospital for her mental health, which is so fucked up. and she found out he was cheating because she was going through his old phone for some reason and saw his ex's nudes, confronted him about it, and then he threatened to sue her if she talked bad about him, broke her controller, and told hazzel to shut the fuck up. but i think her and dann are still fine somehow because when she posted sterling's birthday vlog like 2 weeks ago, he included footage of dann? if my baby daddy treated me like that, i wouldnt want to include footage of him in my sons birthday vlog but thats just me.sadasfuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:01 amBesides the fact that shes severely mentally ill and suicidal, i dont feel bad for her either. shes the one that put herself into these situations, dragging her children through the mud. disgraceful. shes fucking 25 but still acts like shes 15. Haylee seriously needs to grow the hell up and get a reality check! her poor children are always getting the short end of the stick because shes selfish and childish. because of her shitty decisions, hazzel has witnessed another man cheating on her mother, losing so much family, having men and so many others come in and out of her life, her mother is suicidal, and her whole life is unstable overall. Haylee needs to be a woman and a mother and actually focus on herself and her kids without needing to depend on others.Resting_Bitch_Face wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:01 am I haven’t posted on here in a while but wow I’m not surprised that Haylee and Dann are done.
She should’ve never got with anyone after what Randy did to her. Poor Hazzel was probably traumatized from seeing Randy in bed with another woman but Haylee just said fuck it lemme bring another man into her life. I dont know the details of what happened with them cz I don’t really follow her anymore but I don’t feel bad for her at all. She clearly has mental health issues and chose a man over bettering herself and her daughter’s life. She was literally living in her parent’s freaking basement then she just meets a guy and moves him in...what is wrong with these youtube moms?!
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I agree with all of this. Haylee has never been fully independent, she lived with her parents when she was with Albert and after the broke up, then she married and moved in with Randy, moved back in with her parents into the basement when they broke up and then moved straight in with Dann. She has never lived alone and supported herself and her kids. I’ve never met anyone who has as many excuses as her as to why she doesn’t upload regularly or can’t hold down a job. She seems quite happy to mooch off everyone around her and her family enables it. She really needs to grow up and work on herself and support herself and her kids.sadasfuck wrote:Besides the fact that shes severely mentally ill and suicidal, i dont feel bad for her either. shes the one that put herself into these situations, dragging her children through the mud. disgraceful. shes fucking 25 but still acts like shes 15. Haylee seriously needs to grow the hell up and get a reality check! her poor children are always getting the short end of the stick because shes selfish and childish. because of her shitty decisions, hazzel has witnessed another man cheating on her mother, losing so much family, having men and so many others come in and out of her life, her mother is suicidal, and her whole life is unstable overall. Haylee needs to be a woman and a mother and actually focus on herself and her kids without needing to depend on others.Resting_Bitch_Face wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:01 am I haven’t posted on here in a while but wow I’m not surprised that Haylee and Dann are done.
She should’ve never got with anyone after what Randy did to her. Poor Hazzel was probably traumatized from seeing Randy in bed with another woman but Haylee just said fuck it lemme bring another man into her life. I dont know the details of what happened with them cz I don’t really follow her anymore but I don’t feel bad for her at all. She clearly has mental health issues and chose a man over bettering herself and her daughter’s life. She was literally living in her parent’s freaking basement then she just meets a guy and moves him in...what is wrong with these youtube moms?!
this woman seriously fires me up!
I wonder about how Hazzel’s upbringing will affect her as she gets older. We all know that a lot of the time kids follow in the steps of their parents, kids of teen parents are more likely to be teen parents themselves etc. And we all know Haylee has not been setting a good example to Hazzel on what a healthy adult relationship is, how you should expect to be treated by your partner, how you yourself should treat your partner, how to be independent and self sufficient etc etc. I worry that Hazzel will follow in Haylee’s footsteps.
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Yes! I know haylee was waitressing at a strip club for a while while she was living with her parents i think, but i think it was only to pay off debt, and she mightve quit when she got pregnant with sterling. and then, since shes been living in the apartment, she hasnt worked and barely uploads. i imagine that just staying home all day with sterling (while hazzel was in school) was pretty boring and she could have vlogged a lot more, but didnt. she could at least be doing online school to get a degree in something to get a better job, but it seems that she cant hold down a job either. even though she does have poor mental health, she does seem lazy, or like she just doesnt want to do shit.staceymj wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:16 pmI agree with all of this. Haylee has never been fully independent, she lived with her parents when she was with Albert and after the broke up, then she married and moved in with Randy, moved back in with her parents into the basement when they broke up and then moved straight in with Dann. She has never lived alone and supported herself and her kids. I’ve never met anyone who has as many excuses as her as to why she doesn’t upload regularly or can’t hold down a job. She seems quite happy to mooch off everyone around her and her family enables it. She really needs to grow up and work on herself and support herself and her kids.sadasfuck wrote:Besides the fact that shes severely mentally ill and suicidal, i dont feel bad for her either. shes the one that put herself into these situations, dragging her children through the mud. disgraceful. shes fucking 25 but still acts like shes 15. Haylee seriously needs to grow the hell up and get a reality check! her poor children are always getting the short end of the stick because shes selfish and childish. because of her shitty decisions, hazzel has witnessed another man cheating on her mother, losing so much family, having men and so many others come in and out of her life, her mother is suicidal, and her whole life is unstable overall. Haylee needs to be a woman and a mother and actually focus on herself and her kids without needing to depend on others.Resting_Bitch_Face wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:01 am I haven’t posted on here in a while but wow I’m not surprised that Haylee and Dann are done.
She should’ve never got with anyone after what Randy did to her. Poor Hazzel was probably traumatized from seeing Randy in bed with another woman but Haylee just said fuck it lemme bring another man into her life. I dont know the details of what happened with them cz I don’t really follow her anymore but I don’t feel bad for her at all. She clearly has mental health issues and chose a man over bettering herself and her daughter’s life. She was literally living in her parent’s freaking basement then she just meets a guy and moves him in...what is wrong with these youtube moms?!
this woman seriously fires me up!
I wonder about how Hazzel’s upbringing will affect her as she gets older. We all know that a lot of the time kids follow in the steps of their parents, kids of teen parents are more likely to be teen parents themselves etc. And we all know Haylee has not been setting a good example to Hazzel on what a healthy adult relationship is, how you should expect to be treated by your partner, how you yourself should treat your partner, how to be independent and self sufficient etc etc. I worry that Hazzel will follow in Haylee’s footsteps.
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Unfortunately, im sure hazzel will follow in haylees footsteps, or, at least, have a lot of mental issues like haylee does from all the trauma she has faced so far. haylee's mom also had mental health issues and i think she did kill herself, so it just seems like a vicious cycle in that family. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if hazzel was already showing signs of struggling mentally. Everything that has happened to her is a lot for any child. its just so sad, but she does still have a chance to make a better life for herself and learn from her mothers mistakes, but only time will tell.
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Surprise Surprise! Another PatPat haul!
i guess its good shes getting sponsorships tho since i assume she needs the money.
also, she said that she was still feeling sad/depressed, but she is still taking her meds. I also take meds and I know they may take a while to start working however shes been on them for a few weeks at this point. is she still seeing her therapist? hopefully she feels better soon.
hazzel doesnt really seem like herself either. i know there were only i few clips of her, but she just doesnt seem as happy/energetic or talkative. could be because she just getting older, but knowing all the shit shes been through it kind of makes me wonder. and also, when she trapped sterling in the laundry hamper.. he seemed so scared, and haylee just didnt care.
maybe im just reaching, but im worried about those kids.
i guess its good shes getting sponsorships tho since i assume she needs the money.
also, she said that she was still feeling sad/depressed, but she is still taking her meds. I also take meds and I know they may take a while to start working however shes been on them for a few weeks at this point. is she still seeing her therapist? hopefully she feels better soon.
hazzel doesnt really seem like herself either. i know there were only i few clips of her, but she just doesnt seem as happy/energetic or talkative. could be because she just getting older, but knowing all the shit shes been through it kind of makes me wonder. and also, when she trapped sterling in the laundry hamper.. he seemed so scared, and haylee just didnt care.
maybe im just reaching, but im worried about those kids.
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These pathetic youtube moms don’t care, they just keep making their shitty life choices and their kids have to pay the price. I respected Haylee back in the days because at least she had a job unlike these other youtube moms but how quickly she got with Dann made me sick.sadasfuck wrote:Surprise Surprise! Another PatPat haul!
i guess its good shes getting sponsorships tho since i assume she needs the money.
also, she said that she was still feeling sad/depressed, but she is still taking her meds. I also take meds and I know they may take a while to start working however shes been on them for a few weeks at this point. is she still seeing her therapist? hopefully she feels better soon.
hazzel doesnt really seem like herself either. i know there were only i few clips of her, but she just doesnt seem as happy/energetic or talkative. could be because she just getting older, but knowing all the shit shes been through it kind of makes me wonder. and also, when she trapped sterling in the laundry hamper.. he seemed so scared, and haylee just didnt care.
maybe im just reaching, but im worried about those kids.
Not only did poor Hazzel walk in on the only father figure she’s ever known in bed with another woman but then he also kept her dogs dogs from her. They had no where to go so they moved to her parents freaking basement and when she finally had enough money to move to a new place she brings another man in to live with them...who does that? Neither of them healed from that trauma but Haylee needs to have her weird kinky sex so fuck Hazzel right?
Now look at her dumb ass tryna salvage another shitty relationship that should’ve never happened.
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"weird kinky sex" LMAO. but no youre right and it only shows how selfish she is. makes me sick too. and haylee didnt even try to get hazzel therapy after that, hazzel was only ever sent to the fucking school counselor, and from my experience they dont actually do shit. im not a doctor or anything, but ive studied child development and child psychology, and divorce can be extremely distressing and traumatic for a child, and children sometimes even blame themselves for the divorce. and hazzel is the one that actually caught him cheating! and shit was messy. and haylees the one that puts her poor child in these situations. i just hope hazzel doesnt blame herself for her mothers shitty choices/relationships. haylee may act like it, but she obviously does not care about her children, and only seems to care about herself, men, and sex, and its so sad. (not trying to slut shame but your kids should come first lol)Resting_Bitch_Face wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:20 pmThese pathetic youtube moms don’t care, they just keep making their shitty life choices and their kids have to pay the price. I respected Haylee back in the days because at least she had a job unlike these other youtube moms but how quickly she got with Dann made me sick.sadasfuck wrote:Surprise Surprise! Another PatPat haul!
i guess its good shes getting sponsorships tho since i assume she needs the money.
also, she said that she was still feeling sad/depressed, but she is still taking her meds. I also take meds and I know they may take a while to start working however shes been on them for a few weeks at this point. is she still seeing her therapist? hopefully she feels better soon.
hazzel doesnt really seem like herself either. i know there were only i few clips of her, but she just doesnt seem as happy/energetic or talkative. could be because she just getting older, but knowing all the shit shes been through it kind of makes me wonder. and also, when she trapped sterling in the laundry hamper.. he seemed so scared, and haylee just didnt care.
maybe im just reaching, but im worried about those kids.
Not only did poor Hazzel walk in on the only father figure she’s ever known in bed with another woman but then he also kept her dogs dogs from her. They had no where to go so they moved to her parents freaking basement and when she finally had enough money to move to a new place she brings another man in to live with them...who does that? Neither of them healed from that trauma but Haylee needs to have her weird kinky sex so fuck Hazzel right?
Now look at her dumb ass tryna salvage another shitty relationship that should’ve never happened.
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Okay so I know I post here a lot lol (Haylees life is like a train wreck and i just cant look away lol) but i was just rewatching Sterlings birthday vlog, and there was a short compilation of pictures at the end that I didnt notice before. There is one picture of all of them together (Dann (ew), Haylee, Hazzel, Dustin, and Sterling) and I just couldnt help but noticing how miserable Hazzel looks compared to everyone else in the photo. Could just be how she smiles in pictures (even though theres so many other pictures of her looking much happier) but everyone looks very happy and shes just there with a little smile, looking like shes faking it, even though it was her baby brothers birthday. I seriously just feel so bad for that little girl, and I honestly cant blame her for being miserable if she is. Again, probably just reaching, but she really hasnt seemed herself lately.
Its also just hard looking at this photo knowing the events that took place just a few days later...
Edit: the photo is kinda blurry lol it looks a little better in the video
Its also just hard looking at this photo knowing the events that took place just a few days later...
Edit: the photo is kinda blurry lol it looks a little better in the video
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She's gone quiet again, I wonder whats going on. Hopefully shes not back in the hospital again.
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Spoke of her, and she showed up.
“Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It's about learning how to dance in the rain.”
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Haha! Just thought of that as I just saw she uploaded. This vlog looks like its from a week ago though.
First of all, can she please stop calling it "eggy bread". It sounds weird and makes me cringe every time. Its FRENCH TOAST
Also, I wonder if she is still doing that workout thing? I remember the second day she was already taking a rest. Chloe Ting workouts are not easy though lol. But then later she was baking cookies with Hazzel. If you really want to lose weight you should probably eat healthy too. Not trying to say that she cant eat them but cookies are probably not the best if you are also trying to workout and be healthier.
LMAO at the end when she calls people out for talking shit about Hazzel's costume and how it is not appropriate. Im almost positive she reads here. I still dont think Hazzel"s costume is appropriate for her age and she should not be allowed to read creepypastas or watch horror movies, just because shes just too young and its just not appropriate for kids, but that just my opinion, and Im allowed to have one. Also, if you put your life online, and you do controversial things like let your 8 year old daughter dress up as a killer, you should expect for some people to be critical. Welcome to social media!
But also, she even admits Hazzel's costume is creepy as fuck, and even had to warn us before showing it in the vlog, which probably means its not appropriate for your 8 year old daughter...
On a brighter note, Dann does seem to be gone, and she seems to be doing okay on her own with the kids. Wonder how long it will be until shes dragging another man into her kids' lives.