BritneyandBabies: Divorce on her High Horse (Part 77)

[Joie de Vivre]

Thats pretty smart...aria playing with sparklers with no fucking shoes or anything on her feet.

Is that bad? I've definitely done that before.

[wonderwall99]

So I don't normally comment in here but the fact that she used Frank's grandpa as an excuse as to why they're having problems is ridiculous. My husband's grandpa passed away (his parents didn't raise him, his grandpa did) and he was super close to him so he was devastated. If anything, we became stronger as a couple because I knew that he was grieving and took care of him during that dark period of time. I get having a traumatic birth can be hard too, but these problems are problems that many married couples face and they don't air out their dirty laundry *cough cough FRANK cough cough* or completely disown children just because they're being "petty". That's some high school shit. They're ADULTS. Act like it. I swear these YouTube families just become more toxic as time goes on. Sometimes I wish they'd just retire and focus on their kids and relationships.

Ugh I was just thinking about this. I realize all people greive differently and some people internalize it and completely go inwards. It can be hard to support someone grieving if they won't let you but also when you're married you HAVE to communicate that. You have to express what helps, what doesn't, what you need and what you don't need.

I had never experienced a death in my family until this year. My godmother passed away from cancer in May and it was ( and still is) so difficult. I remember the night before she passed we had gone to say goodbye and when we got home I was howling and sobbing and crying for probably an hour or two straight and my husband was by my side the entire time. He let me wipe my snotty nose on his shirt and grab him and cry and laugh and be angry and relieved and all the emotions. I know men and women also react differently but still.

The fact that my husband was there for me in a very new and sad experience made me love him more. Losing a family member shouldn't put a bigger rift in your marriage it should truly strengthen it and bring our a very supportive and comforting and loving side.

The fact that frank probably pulled away and it caused more issues is incredibly telling. And I'm sure brit was dealing with a lot of her own post partum stuff but honestly, growing up im realizing when it rains, it freaking pours. When things are overwhelming, sometimes it gets worse before it gets better. And all these difficulties and tests in their marriage could make or break them. Its definitely a testament to how poorly paired they are for each other. Their relationship is still so new that all these things adding onto one another just kept showing them their marriage flaws.

And don't get me wrong everyone has flaws, no marriage is perfect. But as time passes all the good and bad won't determine whether your marriage lasts or not. You should be able to go to your spouse when you lose someone close to you. Mothers should be able to go to their husband's and tell them what post psrtum journey their on and lean on them. If a women decides to completely remove their tubes their partner should be on board. Although she doesn't need him to make that decision, I think both people need to agree on something like that. If he is full set on having more kids, clearly this won't last.

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PERSONAL
First, I want to say that I'm so sorry for your loss. This is still fresh for you. I'm very happy that you have an incredible and supportive spouse.

Second, I wanted to echo your point. I lost my mother several years ago, and although we knew it was coming, it was incredibly painful for a wide variety of reasons. My husband was my foundation throughout this period... I don't even remember much of the time immediately afterwards because it was so traumatizing. My husband took over all my "mom duties" while also organizing a way for him to work from home temporarily in order to be by my side. He let me sleep as much as I needed, cry as much as I needed, talk as much as I needed, all while taking care of our sons, working remotely from home, cooking, and cleaning... Although I knew I loved this man, after the fog of grief started to lift, I could see how much HE was affected by the whole thing, but had never let it show. I cannot explain how much gratitude and love I have for this guy for just being a good man.
PERSONAL OVER

Grief can make you do strange things, for sure, but did Britney need to amplify that grief? If she is having trouble with any postpartum depression, I find it difficult to believe that would cause you to be a fucking bitch on social media in order to "punish" your spouse. No, I think that Frank was grieving, Britney is having birth trauma, but something else happened on top of these things.

Instead of coming together like adults and trying to help one another, they immediately turned to social media to try to publicly punish each other. Their marriage is doomed.

Thank you for the love losing someone close is truly so devastating. I'm sorry you lost your mom, I hope you and your family have found some peace through that journey.

But I definitely agree. The loss of his grandfather shouldn't have caused more issues. Either he's being a dick and pushed her away or she hasn't been very supportive. And even in the midst of her post partum experience that doesn't give her a free pass not to support her husband through his grief.

I genuinely just think they are very selfish people who threw themselves into a very serious marriage too quickly. They focus on the shit that doesn't matter at ALL, like Instagram and YT and their image but once those screens turn off, what the fuck do you have to show for it? A crappy marriage

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[kendra326]

That birth was not freaking traumatic. I’m sure we all have crazy birth stories that easily top that in terms of being “traumatic.” When I had my first in 2011 I labored for several hours, baby’s heart rate dropped, and I went in for an emergency cesarean, then lost so much blood the nurse was surprised I was still conscious and had major clotting. My baby swallowed meconium and was In The NICU for two weeks and was transferred to another hospital within minutes after being born. I had to go home without her and didn’t hold her the first time for a week. That shit was traumatic & I don’t even walk around saying I had a traumatic birth. I know people who have had way worse births, too. She’s honestly unreal. Her baby came fast so she felt some pain but was ultimately totally fine as was baby. Like come on now. Sorry for the rant lmao


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[samanthaking]

When her and Frank spilt, which I think will definitely happen within the next year, if not sooner. I hope she takes time to focus on herself and her kids. Sadly she probably won't and she'll have baby daddy #3 on her channel.

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[Brighteyes5]

So I don't normally comment in here but the fact that she used Frank's grandpa as an excuse as to why they're having problems is ridiculous. My husband's grandpa passed away (his parents didn't raise him, his grandpa did) and he was super close to him so he was devastated. If anything, we became stronger as a couple because I knew that he was grieving and took care of him during that dark period of time. I get having a traumatic birth can be hard too, but these problems are problems that many married couples face and they don't air out their dirty laundry *cough cough FRANK cough cough* or completely disown children just because they're being "petty". That's some high school shit. They're ADULTS. Act like it. I swear these YouTube families just become more toxic as time goes on. Sometimes I wish they'd just retire and focus on their kids and relationships.

Ugh I was just thinking about this. I realize all people greive differently and some people internalize it and completely go inwards. It can be hard to support someone grieving if they won't let you but also when you're married you HAVE to communicate that. You have to express what helps, what doesn't, what you need and what you don't need.

I had never experienced a death in my family until this year. My godmother passed away from cancer in May and it was ( and still is) so difficult. I remember the night before she passed we had gone to say goodbye and when we got home I was howling and sobbing and crying for probably an hour or two straight and my husband was by my side the entire time. He let me wipe my snotty nose on his shirt and grab him and cry and laugh and be angry and relieved and all the emotions. I know men and women also react differently but still.

The fact that my husband was there for me in a very new and sad experience made me love him more. Losing a family member shouldn't put a bigger rift in your marriage it should truly strengthen it and bring our a very supportive and comforting and loving side.

The fact that frank probably pulled away and it caused more issues is incredibly telling. And I'm sure brit was dealing with a lot of her own post partum stuff but honestly, growing up im realizing when it rains, it freaking pours. When things are overwhelming, sometimes it gets worse before it gets better. And all these difficulties and tests in their marriage could make or break them. Its definitely a testament to how poorly paired they are for each other. Their relationship is still so new that all these things adding onto one another just kept showing them their marriage flaws.

And don't get me wrong everyone has flaws, no marriage is perfect. But as time passes all the good and bad won't determine whether your marriage lasts or not. You should be able to go to your spouse when you lose someone close to you. Mothers should be able to go to their husband's and tell them what post psrtum journey their on and lean on them. If a women decides to completely remove their tubes their partner should be on board. Although she doesn't need him to make that decision, I think both people need to agree on something like that. If he is full set on having more kids, clearly this won't last.

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PERSONAL
First, I want to say that I'm so sorry for your loss. This is still fresh for you. I'm very happy that you have an incredible and supportive spouse.

Second, I wanted to echo your point. I lost my mother several years ago, and although we knew it was coming, it was incredibly painful for a wide variety of reasons. My husband was my foundation throughout this period... I don't even remember much of the time immediately afterwards because it was so traumatizing. My husband took over all my "mom duties" while also organizing a way for him to work from home temporarily in order to be by my side. He let me sleep as much as I needed, cry as much as I needed, talk as much as I needed, all while taking care of our sons, working remotely from home, cooking, and cleaning... Although I knew I loved this man, after the fog of grief started to lift, I could see how much HE was affected by the whole thing, but had never let it show. I cannot explain how much gratitude and love I have for this guy for just being a good man.
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Grief can make you do strange things, for sure, but did Britney need to amplify that grief? If she is having trouble with any postpartum depression, I find it difficult to believe that would cause you to be a fucking bitch on social media in order to "punish" your spouse. No, I think that Frank was grieving, Britney is having birth trauma, but something else happened on top of these things.

Instead of coming together like adults and trying to help one another, they immediately turned to social media to try to publicly punish each other. Their marriage is doomed.

This so much ! In oct 2017 I got married and December 2017 my mom got in an accident and was in the hospital for a while and stuck in bed for almost 6 months due to all the surgeries she had. We had just gotten married and I dropped everything to take care of my mom. We worked out our relationship. Brit and frank are so selfish and too immature to be in a healthy relationship.


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[Lalalilylove]

Thats pretty smart...aria playing with sparklers with no fucking shoes or anything on her feet.

Is that bad? I've definitely done that before.

Same! We always did that as kids and now my kids do, too. None of us have ever had an injury from it

[LetsGoPens87]

Maybe Frank is mad about Britney getting her tubes removed because they found out Fletcher has DMD which is why Frank wants more kids. I don't understand why he would want more kids. Frank, take how youre feeling right now about your grandpa passing and amplify that grief because it's going to be gut wrenching to lose a child too soon!

Glad Britney is putting her foot down with no more kids. Honestly my heart was breaking for her when she was talking about how she never really lost anyone close to her before... There's a good chance she'll outlive her son I just can't imagine going through that once, let alone twice potentially.

Is it possible they are putting off finding out if he has DMD? Is is that not really "allowed"?

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[WTFDidIJustWatch]

I’m not buying the post partum story I’m thinking that Britney is bottle feeding in case her and Frank divorce so he can take both kids on the weekends.
I may be way off but she loves bf the other babies and she was always advocating for feeding with constant pics online and now suddenly bf is a no and bottle is a go.

I actually had this exact thought as well.


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[staceymj]

If Frank is mad about Britney’s choice to have her tubes removed he is the biggest POS. If he wanted more than 2 biological kids of his own than he shouldn’t have knocked up a mother of 3. Some men really have no concern for how hard pregnancy and childbirth is on a woman’s body. Britney has had 5 kids in 9 years, that’s a lot of stress on her body. And she is well within her rights to take her reproductive health into her own hands and choose not have anymore kids.


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[Commonlove]

If Frank is mad about Britney’s choice to have her tubes removed he is the biggest POS. If he wanted more than 2 biological kids of his own than he shouldn’t have knocked up a mother of 3. Some men really have no concern for how hard pregnancy and childbirth is on a woman’s body. Britney has had 5 kids in 9 years, that’s a lot of stress on her body. And she is well within her rights to take her reproductive health into her own hands and choose not have anymore kids.


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Yes, this. If and when he wants a big family including multiple biological kids, he shouldn't have married Britney. I'm sure there are plenty of young christian women out there who would like to have a big family (and who Frank's family would approve). Personal but my SO is a father of three. So I have had to approve the fact that we can't have more than one child together as I already have one kid too and the existing four kids already require a lot of time, space and money. It's just something you have to deal with if you want to settle with someone like that. And again these are things you have to consider BEFORE getting married.

[Kataja]

That birth was not freaking traumatic. I’m sure we all have crazy birth stories that easily top that in terms of being “traumatic.” When I had my first in 2011 I labored for several hours, baby’s heart rate dropped, and I went in for an emergency cesarean, then lost so much blood the nurse was surprised I was still conscious and had major clotting. My baby swallowed meconium and was In The NICU for two weeks and was transferred to another hospital within minutes after being born. I had to go home without her and didn’t hold her the first time for a week. That shit was traumatic & I don’t even walk around saying I had a traumatic birth. I know people who have had way worse births, too. She’s honestly unreal. Her baby came fast so she felt some pain but was ultimately totally fine as was baby. Like come on now. Sorry for the rant lmao

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What is traumatic for somebody, might be not for somebody else. I'm sorry that you have to go through all that but it doesn't invalidate Britney's experience. This isn't pain-Olympics. I don't like to side with her but I can totally empathize with her experience. Having baby that fast and how he came out, it can be traumatic. There are so many other things you can criticize with merit. I don't think this is one of those. Just my personal opinion.

[Mel1011]

I agree her birth was not traumatic. I had a traumatic birth (emergency csec, baby who almost died) but I didn’t bring it up every chance I got and I sure didn’t use it as an excuse for crappy behaviour.

[Joie de Vivre]

That birth was not freaking traumatic. I’m sure we all have crazy birth stories that easily top that in terms of being “traumatic.” When I had my first in 2011 I labored for several hours, baby’s heart rate dropped, and I went in for an emergency cesarean, then lost so much blood the nurse was surprised I was still conscious and had major clotting. My baby swallowed meconium and was In The NICU for two weeks and was transferred to another hospital within minutes after being born. I had to go home without her and didn’t hold her the first time for a week. That shit was traumatic & I don’t even walk around saying I had a traumatic birth. I know people who have had way worse births, too. She’s honestly unreal. Her baby came fast so she felt some pain but was ultimately totally fine as was baby. Like come on now. Sorry for the rant lmao

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What is traumatic for somebody, might be not for somebody else. I'm sorry that you have to go through all that but it doesn't invalidate Britney's experience. This isn't pain-Olympics. I don't like to side with her but I can totally empathize with her experience. Having baby that fast and how he came out, it can be traumatic. There are so many other things you can criticize with merit. I don't think this is one of those. Just my personal opinion.

Totally agree. Britney can be called-out for a ton of things, but I believe her birth was traumatic for her. She indicated that it wasn't so much how fast Fletcher came, rather she's been dealing with persistent thoughts about what could have happened if they hadn't gotten there in time. With the cord being around his neck and Fletcher coming out at a strange angle, she has probably been envisioning how close Fletcher came to death.Intrusive thoughts like those would be traumatic for almost anyone.

[ladycakes]

Thats pretty smart...aria playing with sparklers with no fucking shoes or anything on her feet.

Is that bad? I've definitely done that before.

Same! We always did that as kids and now my kids do, too. None of us have ever had an injury from it

Might be a southern thing. We always ran around barefoot - even on 4th July lol

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[smom12]

Let’s keep in mind, the whole harlow fingernail thing was the most traumatic thing to happen to her in her life. One of her biggest fears as a mother if I’m not mistaken. So I don’t take much stock in her saying how anything is traumatic for her.

And you CERTAINLY Don’t use that as an excuse to be a shitty ass spouse.


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[Tekaspn]

This shit show with her life is going on because Freenks grandfather passed away????

Britch just imagine how your life will be when Nolan dies. Is freenk gonna be by your side? Cause we all know that he doesnt give a f*** about your kids.






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[WTFDidIJustWatch]

My 2nd had shoulder dystopia. The doc came to me the next morning and told me I should not have more kids (yeah it was fucked up to say) because it was the scariest delivery he’d ever had in about 25 years of practice.

It wasn’t the birth that traumatized me. It was the not being able to close my eyes for weeks & weeks without thinking she could have died that got me.

I’d say we give her a break on whether her trauma is “real“ to us. It’s real to HER.

I think her “life update” was exactly what you all said it would be. Half bullshit. Lol


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[averys5]

I don’t think B knows if Fletcher has DMD, otherwise she would have somehow announced it just so everyone would stop commenting and messaging about it. She would’ve proudly said “we got him tested, he does not! ” on Instagram at least.

I think they will wait as long as possible so they don’t pop their newborn bubble. Or maybe Frank wants to get him tested and she doesn’t.

[Resting_Bitch_Face]

This shit show with her life is going on because Freenks grandfather passed away????

Britch just imagine how your life will be when Nolan dies. Is freenk gonna be by your side? Cause we all know that he doesnt give a f*** about your kids.






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My whole thing is regardless if Fetch’s birth was traumatic for her or not it absolutely DOES NOT excuse her childish behavior and that’s the issue. She really thinks she did sometime posting that video when all she did was show that she will never own up to anything and stand up for those kids. She used every single struggle they’ve had this year and said “this is why we unfollowed/archived each other” to get sympathy and that’s not ok. She didn’t bring up what Frank did to Nolan and that just shows what a piece of shit they both are and that Frank will NOT be there for when Nolan declines.

They’ve had such an easy year compared to most ppl so if they can’t handle this, theres no way in hell either of them will handle Nolan’s decline. Nolan’s care is going to be a 24/7 thing on top of everything else they have to do, so once Frank is long gone I don’t see Britney being able to handle Nolan either.

[WTFDidIJustWatch]

This shit show with her life is going on because Freenks grandfather passed away????

Britch just imagine how your life will be when Nolan dies. Is freenk gonna be by your side? Cause we all know that he doesnt give a f*** about your kids.






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My whole thing is regardless if Fetch’s birth was traumatic for her or not it absolutely DOES NOT excuse her childish behavior and that’s the issue. She really thinks she did sometime posting that video when all she did was show that she will never own up to anything and stand up for those kids. She used every single struggle they’ve had this year and said “this is why we unfollowed/archived each other” to get sympathy and that’s not ok. She didn’t bring up what Frank did to Nolan and that just shows what a piece of shit they both are and that Frank will NOT be there for when Nolan declines.

They’ve had such an easy year compared to most ppl so if they can’t handle this, theres no way in hell either of them will handle Nolan’s decline. Nolan’s care is going to be a 24/7 thing on top of everything else they have to do, so once Frank is long gone I don’t see Britney being able to handle Nolan either.

Yessss! exactly what I’m thinking, you said it better than I could have! Lol


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