OKBaby: Too many trips, still no snip! | Part 35

[MiloandMax1]

So they gave her a tv to babysit her down there. But she was just on stories saying they took their tablets away again. Electronics are electronics Kyra.

[justsaying]

omg why aren't they using protection?? if Oscar is so adamant about not wanting another kid he should insist on condoms - or get that vasectomy he's been researching on for like a year at this point^^

and poor alaya! I feel like she got ambushed with her new room :/ they showed it to her and subsequently put her to bed and then when Oscar said: "If you need anything, just come upstairs" she was like "wait, what?" like she just remembered again that she was downstairs
I would be scared to sleep down there all by myself and I'm a grown ass woman

[wonderwall99]

I was a teenager and I'd still run up the stairs from the basement. And our basement was fully done but its so scary when its dark even at night. Shit my boyfriend would come over and I was like 22 and we'd run up the stairs because it was just creepy down there in the dark.

The fact that her room is done but that whole section is a complete empty and scary basement totally negates any sort of decorating.

They should've done the entire rest of the basement. Maybe put a little kitchenette area with a small fridge so the kids could get some water at night. Or at least made it a really beautiful open play room and then put Levi and alaya down there. Redecorated for the 2 older kids and then redecorated for the 2 younger girls upstairs. 1, that would've been a ton of vlog content 2, the kids would feel safer at least knowing they had each other and that the basement wasn't as scary if it was fully done.

Its fucked up that they put their almost 5 year old daughter down there all by herself. I'd fucking stay under the covers from bedtime until my mom got me in the morning. They suck. Poor alaya

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[BrokenHeart410]

They seriously put that poor baby in the basement like the outcast she is (to them). I can't think of the movie but there was something wrong with their daughter so they hid her in either the attic or basement.

That room being off in that spooky basement reminds me of some child p*** studio or something. I'm 35 and id be scared down there. Wtf couldn't her and Averie share a room or even her a Levi? Or maybe the parents could have bought a house that made sense for their growing family.

And what was up with them showing Asscar push his toddler down in the car and then he was a (thats supposed to be a donkey) about apologizing

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[MiloandMax1]

I was a teenager and I'd still run up the stairs from the basement. And our basement was fully done but its so scary when its dark even at night. Shit my boyfriend would come over and I was like 22 and we'd run up the stairs because it was just creepy down there in the dark.

The fact that her room is done but that whole section is a complete empty and scary basement totally negates any sort of decorating.

They should've done the entire rest of the basement. Maybe put a little kitchenette area with a small fridge so the kids could get some water at night. Or at least made it a really beautiful open play room and then put Levi and alaya down there. Redecorated for the 2 older kids and then redecorated for the 2 younger girls upstairs. 1, that would've been a ton of vlog content 2, the kids would feel safer at least knowing they had each other and that the basement wasn't as scary if it was fully done.

Its fucked up that they put their almost 5 year old daughter down there all by herself. I'd fucking stay under the covers from bedtime until my mom got me in the morning. They suck. Poor alaya

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Alaya is only 3, she will be 4 next month. They didn't want to put their 5 year old down there when he was 4 and someone would have been down there with him at least (when Kyla was still living there).

[MiloandMax1]

They need to just finish the basement and suck it up with the office. Then let one kid have the office upstairs as a bedroom.

Or they could parent and have them share. Their reason for not having them share is they keep one another up.

[sezzajaydee]

They really just don’t care about Alaya any more. She’s been wandering around the house without a place since Averie was born.
Now she’s down in the basement like an outcast?

You watch them complain and call her a brat when she inevitably gets scared down there. Which you can’t blame her for. I’m old and I would still get freaked out down there alone!

[wasateenmum]

I really feel for some mothers. Or maybe all mothers. No matter what some of us do it’s never good enough. It’s not even good enough for ourselves. I wish I had seen a perfect mother in my life time so I knew what one was. Do any of you guys have a mom on you tube that you actually like and look up too? Just curious.

[felolo]

I really feel for some mothers. Or maybe all mothers. No matter what some of us do it’s never good enough. It’s not even good enough for ourselves. I wish I had seen a perfect mother in my life time so I knew what one was. Do any of you guys have a mom on you tube that you actually like and look up too? Just curious.

thats true. as a mother you will always make mistakes without any bad intentions - my mom always loved me unconditonally but damn did she screw me up, I needed 100 therapy sessions to realize she is only human. she was extremely young (25, so obviously not a teen mom) and super overwhelmed. the difference is that yt moms put these things out there for us to watch..and being judgemental is a part of human nature, so thats what we do here.

i really like sarah from ourtribeofmany, I think she does an incredible job raising her 10 children. couldn't find anything negative about her. but she is the only one coming to my mind right now.

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[justsaying]

I wonder how long Kyra would last down there by herself^^ she always says that Alaya is a lot like her, why does she not sympathize with her at all? :/

[wonderwall99]

I really feel for some mothers. Or maybe all mothers. No matter what some of us do it’s never good enough. It’s not even good enough for ourselves. I wish I had seen a perfect mother in my life time so I knew what one was. Do any of you guys have a mom on you tube that you actually like and look up too? Just curious.

I think as parents, and human beings for that matter, we do the best with what we are given. And truthfully we have all been dealt some form of trauma, no matter what.
Every single generation tries to do better than what their parents did but with that comes with inevitably making the same mistakes our parents made with us.

My father was born in El Salvador, his father was an alcoholic, abusive womanizing deadbeat. My father never ever wanted to be his dad. He came to Canada at 18 with nothing but dreams and a fucking will to do better. And he did. He built a life, a business, a home and family. Considering my fathers past he did everything right. But as a child I still remember when he was in bad moods and we had to walk on eggshells, scared he would blow up. On few occasions I remember broken remotes, a hole or 2 in the wall, and blowouts. He had 2 or 3 huge fights with mt brother that resulted in my brother moving out with his clothes in trash bags. I'm pretty sure that gave me some fucked up abandonment issues and my brother with other shit to deal with. But about 10 years ago my dad started therapy and still goes. The difference in that man. Its insane how incredible he's doing and how far he's come. I adore my dad with my whole heart and I will always be proud of what he's accomplished given the cards he was dealt growing up.

When you take Kyra. She wants to do better than she had. She loves her kids, I know she does. She doesn't want to be her mom. So when she does things like give alaya her own room but subsequently its in an unfinished basement alone, maybe she thinks she's doing the right thing because it's 10x better than what she had. I think Oscar and kyras relationship is toxic and definitely not healthy but I don't think he wants to separate his children's family and break them up like his parents did.
They think they're doing what's right, whats better but I guess it's the best they can with what they've been through.
Of course there's therapy that kyra always mentions and such, so of course she knows better and CAN actually do better for her kids.

Realistically, no parent will ever be good enough. No matter what we do our kids will think of one thing we didn't do or fucked up. Its normal, sometimes I think that way with my parents. But I know they tried and loved us and did everything they could to give us better lives. And I guess that's the best we can hope for in any situation, ya know?

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[justsaying]

I think it's sweet that people, like you just did, throw in every once in a while, that everybody's struggling and a lot of people try to do better.

But here in this forum we've had endless rants about their shitty parenting to prove that those two NEED TO DO BETTER

[welcomeworld]

Did they ever say why they didn’t put Levi downstairs? Being that he’s the oldest and the only boy, I’d think he’d be the one best for the basement. If they end up being in that house for awhile and the kids start having friends over, I think he’d also appreciate his own space away from his sisters


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[MiloandMax1]

Did they ever say why they didn’t put Levi downstairs? Being that he’s the oldest and the only boy, I’d think he’d be the one best for the basement. If they end up being in that house for awhile and the kids start having friends over, I think he’d also appreciate his own space away from his sisters


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When Levi was the same age or even a few months older they said they didn't want him down there because of coming up the stairs (as in them being steep or it being dark).

The video of them explaining Alaya going down there was that they asked the kids and Levi didn't want to be down there but Alaya did because it was Kyla's old room so that's why she was excited about it. Almost like they used her loving Kyla against her.

[excited_nugget]

I feel like they don't want to put Levi down in the basement because he has the Dino wall, which he has clearly stated he is over it, so (in their eyes) they would have to paint over it because their princess can't have a dinosaur room and they probably spent a lot of money on it. So it's just easier to put Alaya downstairs. But also, I'm pretty sure Oscar said he was leaving the basement lights on but she just had the LED lights on the TV for her room. At least that was my understanding.

I don't think it's a big deal that Alaya is downstairs. If the lights were in fact on in the basement, I don't see it as a big deal. Plus Kyra said she was going to put a camera in Alayas room so they can monitor her and hear her, which she also said she explained to Alaya.

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[Notreal5]

I really feel for some mothers. Or maybe all mothers. No matter what some of us do it’s never good enough. It’s not even good enough for ourselves. I wish I had seen a perfect mother in my life time so I knew what one was. Do any of you guys have a mom on you tube that you actually like and look up too? Just curious.

McClure twins mom is pretty good!


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[chloe6124]

If that basement had a open staircase and was basically just like a second story but a basement I don’t think it would be a big deal. But it is completely closed off like a dungeon. I could never put a child that young in a basement like that. They need to learn to use the space they have. It isn’t hard. The office goes in the basement and a child goes in the bedroom loft. Then they also have the entire loft as a open playroom.


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[blehhh]

I wish I could rescue Alaya. She deserves so much better. I really hate ok for the way they treat her and for lack of love towards her.


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[Hereforthemamadrama]

Putting her in the basement was wrong. It’s a closed off basement not finished and she’s 4 years old! The office should of been moved downstairs and Alaya goes up in the office. I don’t understand the thought process of moving a child downstairs when the basement isn’t even finished and she’s only 4 years old

[wasateenmum]

I think it's sweet that people, like you just did, throw in every once in a while, that everybody's struggling and a lot of people try to do better.

But here in this forum we've had endless rants about their shitty parenting to prove that those two NEED TO DO BETTER

Lol