Cam&Fam | Part Three

[Leabooga]

I agree some of you are soooo pathetic. I can kinda get behind why some of you gossip about the other moms but NOT Camryn. You try having PTSD!!! I guarantee those of you who don’t know what it’s like would be in for a big reality check! If only you knew how much it changes everything and makes you unable to function like your normal self! Consider yourself lucky that you don’t!!

[cx510]

Glad people here are calling out some of the other commentators here. I have no issue with criticizing the other moms here, but Cam is a bit different. She's literally only 19 years old and has gone through countless traumatic experiences, she literally has PTSD. I'm her age and couldn't imagine going through all she has, who cares if she makes cringey tiktok videos, she can cope however she chooses, she's incredibly strong. How do you think she feels having to live with the fact that she saw Landon, the love of her life, her best friend since she was 14, hanging himself and knowing he is never coming back? That she has to raise two kids alone? That she'll never know how Landon felt in his final moments? That she never got closure with him, not even a note?

Cam has for sure made questionable choices and I disagree with things she's done, but this thread is absolutely brutal. Let her breathe. And with the serious subject matter of what happened to Landon, you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. Give her a freaking break, and be kinder...you never know how much a person can be affected by words.

[Seller-Of-Souls]

Glad people here are calling out some of the other commentators here. I have no issue with criticizing the other moms here, but Cam is a bit different. She's literally only 19 years old and has gone through countless traumatic experiences, she literally has PTSD. I'm her age and couldn't imagine going through all she has, who cares if she makes cringey tiktok videos, she can cope however she chooses, she's incredibly strong. How do you think she feels having to live with the fact that she saw Landon, the love of her life, her best friend since she was 14, hanging himself and knowing he is never coming back? That she has to raise two kids alone? That she'll never know how Landon felt in his final moments? That she never got closure with him, not even a note?

Cam has for sure made questionable choices and I disagree with things she's done, but this thread is absolutely brutal. Let her breathe. And with the serious subject matter of what happened to Landon, you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. Give her a freaking break, and be kinder...you never know how much a person can be affected by words.

"you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. "

That's true, but it goes the other way too. How do you think her constant tearing Landon down affected him? How do you think he felt when she would make fun of him with her friends, or belittle him on camera, or even just make remarks that were not only out of place but out of line? How do you think he felt when the love of his life would record herself and her friends calling him pussy-whipped, then post it on YT? Do you honestly think that was something he wanted, something he enjoyed? And if we saw that as often as we did ON camera, how much more do you think went on OFF camera?

Yes, I get that Cam has made some very questionable decisions, and I think we can all agree that she's not perfect. However, everyone here defending her like she's the second coming of Christ himself is rather despicable, because you're only focusing on "Oh, but her husband died and now she's going through a lot!". Give me a fucking break. She contributed to his suicide just as much as any of the other external factors, and everyone who is so quick to defend her because of her CURRENT circumstance needs to understand that her actions - ALL of them - led to this point. Like I said before, she doesn't get a free pass now just because her husband killed himself. Her actions - degrading Landon both on and off camera - have consequences. She's living through them.

And honestly? I know some of you are going to come after me and slam me into the ground for "Hating" on Cam. Go ahead, I've got nothing to lose from you Stans.

[Highlighter]

Glad people here are calling out some of the other commentators here. I have no issue with criticizing the other moms here, but Cam is a bit different. She's literally only 19 years old and has gone through countless traumatic experiences, she literally has PTSD. I'm her age and couldn't imagine going through all she has, who cares if she makes cringey tiktok videos, she can cope however she chooses, she's incredibly strong. How do you think she feels having to live with the fact that she saw Landon, the love of her life, her best friend since she was 14, hanging himself and knowing he is never coming back? That she has to raise two kids alone? That she'll never know how Landon felt in his final moments? That she never got closure with him, not even a note?

Cam has for sure made questionable choices and I disagree with things she's done, but this thread is absolutely brutal. Let her breathe. And with the serious subject matter of what happened to Landon, you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. Give her a freaking break, and be kinder...you never know how much a person can be affected by words.

"you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. "

That's true, but it goes the other way too. How do you think her constant tearing Landon down affected him? How do you think he felt when she would make fun of him with her friends, or belittle him on camera, or even just make remarks that were not only out of place but out of line? How do you think he felt when the love of his life would record herself and her friends calling him pussy-whipped, then post it on YT? Do you honestly think that was something he wanted, something he enjoyed? And if we saw that as often as we did ON camera, how much more do you think went on OFF camera?

Yes, I get that Cam has made some very questionable decisions, and I think we can all agree that she's not perfect. However, everyone here defending her like she's the second coming of Christ himself is rather despicable, because you're only focusing on "Oh, but her husband died and now she's going through a lot!". Give me a fucking break. She contributed to his suicide just as much as any of the other external factors, and everyone who is so quick to defend her because of her CURRENT circumstance needs to understand that her actions - ALL of them - led to this point. Like I said before, she doesn't get a free pass now just because her husband killed himself. Her actions - degrading Landon both on and off camera - have consequences. She's living through them.

And honestly? I know some of you are going to come after me and slam me into the ground for "Hating" on Cam. Go ahead, I've got nothing to lose from you Stans.

Just because somebody has a different opinion to you doesn't mean they are a Cam stan. Get a grip lmao

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[polar_bear]

Glad people here are calling out some of the other commentators here. I have no issue with criticizing the other moms here, but Cam is a bit different. She's literally only 19 years old and has gone through countless traumatic experiences, she literally has PTSD. I'm her age and couldn't imagine going through all she has, who cares if she makes cringey tiktok videos, she can cope however she chooses, she's incredibly strong. How do you think she feels having to live with the fact that she saw Landon, the love of her life, her best friend since she was 14, hanging himself and knowing he is never coming back? That she has to raise two kids alone? That she'll never know how Landon felt in his final moments? That she never got closure with him, not even a note?

Cam has for sure made questionable choices and I disagree with things she's done, but this thread is absolutely brutal. Let her breathe. And with the serious subject matter of what happened to Landon, you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. Give her a freaking break, and be kinder...you never know how much a person can be affected by words.

"you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. "

That's true, but it goes the other way too. How do you think her constant tearing Landon down affected him? How do you think he felt when she would make fun of him with her friends, or belittle him on camera, or even just make remarks that were not only out of place but out of line? How do you think he felt when the love of his life would record herself and her friends calling him pussy-whipped, then post it on YT? Do you honestly think that was something he wanted, something he enjoyed? And if we saw that as often as we did ON camera, how much more do you think went on OFF camera?

Yes, I get that Cam has made some very questionable decisions, and I think we can all agree that she's not perfect. However, everyone here defending her like she's the second coming of Christ himself is rather despicable, because you're only focusing on "Oh, but her husband died and now she's going through a lot!". Give me a fucking break. She contributed to his suicide just as much as any of the other external factors, and everyone who is so quick to defend her because of her CURRENT circumstance needs to understand that her actions - ALL of them - led to this point. Like I said before, she doesn't get a free pass now just because her husband killed himself. Her actions - degrading Landon both on and off camera - have consequences. She's living through them.

And honestly? I know some of you are going to come after me and slam me into the ground for "Hating" on Cam. Go ahead, I've got nothing to lose from you Stans.

Wait, what?! She called him pussy-whipped? Do you know in which video this happened? I wanna analyse the tone of her voice and his reaction. Or if you know how long ago that was, it is also helpful.
And yes, she was brutal with him. She didn't held back on jokes and you can see that those came from a teenager who doesn't give two shits about mental health or she doesn't know. Or... she knows but is too ignorant to stop (I am talking about her past self).
It's terrible that for her to realise it is wrong what she was doing was for Landon to do the unimaginable. I can guarantee that she won't be this ignorant anymore, she won't say anything bad about someone else, not even in a jokingly manner. She learned her lesson the hard (and somehow wrong) way.
And before anyone else says that those words didn't contribute to his degrading mental health, you are wrong. I don't wanna share my personal life on here, but something similar happens to me too and it drives me insane, it makes me think about suicide every now and then.

[blissablake]

Glad people here are calling out some of the other commentators here. I have no issue with criticizing the other moms here, but Cam is a bit different. She's literally only 19 years old and has gone through countless traumatic experiences, she literally has PTSD. I'm her age and couldn't imagine going through all she has, who cares if she makes cringey tiktok videos, she can cope however she chooses, she's incredibly strong. How do you think she feels having to live with the fact that she saw Landon, the love of her life, her best friend since she was 14, hanging himself and knowing he is never coming back? That she has to raise two kids alone? That she'll never know how Landon felt in his final moments? That she never got closure with him, not even a note?

Cam has for sure made questionable choices and I disagree with things she's done, but this thread is absolutely brutal. Let her breathe. And with the serious subject matter of what happened to Landon, you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. Give her a freaking break, and be kinder...you never know how much a person can be affected by words.

"you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. "

That's true, but it goes the other way too. How do you think her constant tearing Landon down affected him? How do you think he felt when she would make fun of him with her friends, or belittle him on camera, or even just make remarks that were not only out of place but out of line? How do you think he felt when the love of his life would record herself and her friends calling him pussy-whipped, then post it on YT? Do you honestly think that was something he wanted, something he enjoyed? And if we saw that as often as we did ON camera, how much more do you think went on OFF camera?

Yes, I get that Cam has made some very questionable decisions, and I think we can all agree that she's not perfect. However, everyone here defending her like she's the second coming of Christ himself is rather despicable, because you're only focusing on "Oh, but her husband died and now she's going through a lot!". Give me a fucking break. She contributed to his suicide just as much as any of the other external factors, and everyone who is so quick to defend her because of her CURRENT circumstance needs to understand that her actions - ALL of them - led to this point. Like I said before, she doesn't get a free pass now just because her husband killed himself. Her actions - degrading Landon both on and off camera - have consequences. She's living through them.

And honestly? I know some of you are going to come after me and slam me into the ground for "Hating" on Cam. Go ahead, I've got nothing to lose from you Stans.

Wait, what?! She called him pussy-whipped? Do you know in which video this happened? I wanna analyse the tone of her voice and his reaction. Or if you know how long ago that was, it is also helpful.
And yes, she was brutal with him. She didn't held back on jokes and you can see that those came from a teenager who doesn't give two shits about mental health or she doesn't know. Or... she knows but is too ignorant to stop (I am talking about her past self).
It's terrible that for her to realise it is wrong what she was doing was for Landon to do the unimaginable. I can guarantee that she won't be this ignorant anymore, she won't say anything bad about someone else, not even in a jokingly manner. She learned her lesson the hard (and somehow wrong) way.
And before anyone else says that those words didn't contribute to his degrading mental health, you are wrong. I don't wanna share my personal life on here, but something similar happens to me too and it drives me insane, it makes me think about suicide every now and then.

Hopefully everyone else here can learn the same lesson as cam did then


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[Seller-Of-Souls]

Glad people here are calling out some of the other commentators here. I have no issue with criticizing the other moms here, but Cam is a bit different. She's literally only 19 years old and has gone through countless traumatic experiences, she literally has PTSD. I'm her age and couldn't imagine going through all she has, who cares if she makes cringey tiktok videos, she can cope however she chooses, she's incredibly strong. How do you think she feels having to live with the fact that she saw Landon, the love of her life, her best friend since she was 14, hanging himself and knowing he is never coming back? That she has to raise two kids alone? That she'll never know how Landon felt in his final moments? That she never got closure with him, not even a note?

Cam has for sure made questionable choices and I disagree with things she's done, but this thread is absolutely brutal. Let her breathe. And with the serious subject matter of what happened to Landon, you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. Give her a freaking break, and be kinder...you never know how much a person can be affected by words.

"you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. "

That's true, but it goes the other way too. How do you think her constant tearing Landon down affected him? How do you think he felt when she would make fun of him with her friends, or belittle him on camera, or even just make remarks that were not only out of place but out of line? How do you think he felt when the love of his life would record herself and her friends calling him pussy-whipped, then post it on YT? Do you honestly think that was something he wanted, something he enjoyed? And if we saw that as often as we did ON camera, how much more do you think went on OFF camera?

Yes, I get that Cam has made some very questionable decisions, and I think we can all agree that she's not perfect. However, everyone here defending her like she's the second coming of Christ himself is rather despicable, because you're only focusing on "Oh, but her husband died and now she's going through a lot!". Give me a fucking break. She contributed to his suicide just as much as any of the other external factors, and everyone who is so quick to defend her because of her CURRENT circumstance needs to understand that her actions - ALL of them - led to this point. Like I said before, she doesn't get a free pass now just because her husband killed himself. Her actions - degrading Landon both on and off camera - have consequences. She's living through them.

And honestly? I know some of you are going to come after me and slam me into the ground for "Hating" on Cam. Go ahead, I've got nothing to lose from you Stans.

Wait, what?! She called him pussy-whipped? Do you know in which video this happened? I wanna analyse the tone of her voice and his reaction. Or if you know how long ago that was, it is also helpful.
And yes, she was brutal with him. She didn't held back on jokes and you can see that those came from a teenager who doesn't give two shits about mental health or she doesn't know. Or... she knows but is too ignorant to stop (I am talking about her past self).
It's terrible that for her to realise it is wrong what she was doing was for Landon to do the unimaginable. I can guarantee that she won't be this ignorant anymore, she won't say anything bad about someone else, not even in a jokingly manner. She learned her lesson the hard (and somehow wrong) way.
And before anyone else says that those words didn't contribute to his degrading mental health, you are wrong. I don't wanna share my personal life on here, but something similar happens to me too and it drives me insane, it makes me think about suicide every now and then.

As far as I know, the issue of him being "whipped" came up in a sitdown video with some friends. Either she mentioned it or they did, but no attempt was made to defend him on her end. Granted, nobody called him "pussy-whipped" (to my knowledge), but "whipped" is just as cruel, because it implies the same things. We all know what someone means when they say "whipped".

And yes, I know that words have a huge impact on someone's mental health. As ashamed as I am to admit it, I am a direct contributor to the suicide of a 9 year old boy. I'm not proud of it in the slightest, and I would change it in a heartbeat if I could, but I learned the hard way that my words have a direct impact on someone, even if you don't see it.

As for those who feel the need to nitpick everything except the arguments actually being made, perhaps you should try addressing the points being presented before you tilt at windmills. Nobody is "hating" her for her tiktoks. Nobody is "hating" her for her fashion sense (or lack thereof). We're not even "hating" her for her perceived lack of affection towards her daughters. What you seem to miss is that we're not spewing vitriol, nor are we wishing death and a million curses upon her and her bloodline; we're pointing out where things went wrong. Where her actions could've contributed to the death of her husband. Where choices she made led her down this path; baby, Austin, suicide and all. Her desire to live her perfect 'teen mom' dream lifestyle brought her to where she is now, and she has nobody to blame but herself for that.

You want to take issue with the fact that some of us won't praise her and kiss her ass because she's a 'strong, independent survivor' now that she's a widow? Go right ahead. Life moves on, whether or not you want it to. I didn't get a free pass when my dad hung himself in my garage, nor should anyone. Life doesn't care about who around you dies. It still goes on.

Side note, for the Stans who are so obviously triggered by what I say. I'm not attacking anyone for holding a different opinion, nor am I attacking anyone for having a great amount of respect for Cam. I do my best not to directly target anyone in any responses. If you personally feel attacked by what I'm saying, perhaps you should step back and ask yourself why you're really[/] upset. Is it because you're hurt, or is it because you recognize something in what I said in yourself?

[dolphin15]

I’m staying out of the above argument, but what I wanted to address is just how her extremely young fan base has reacted to this whole thing. Cam trying to share his story, and anything else she might do to highlight suicide prevention/mental health is gonna go right over their heads.

Her latest tik toks comments are FULL of 6-12yr olds (no I’m not exaggerating, you can click on their profiles if y’all don’t believe me) who believe Landon was some sort of martyr and he decided to donate his organs and therefore purposely end his life. That or they still believe he overdosed. I saw a few comments that they weren’t even allowed to watch the video because their parents deemed it “inappropriate” for their age.

Basically what I’m trying to say is whatever y’all think about Cam, the real issue is her fan base is extremely impressionable. Just by evading the word suicide in her original Instagram and including the part about “dying like a hero, saving many lives” they’ve totally misunderstood the scenario. That’s the bigger point here


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[Seller-Of-Souls]

I’m staying out of the above argument, but what I wanted to address is just how her extremely young fan base has reacted to this whole thing. Cam trying to share his story, and anything else she might do to highlight suicide prevention/mental health is gonna go right over their heads.

Her latest tik toks comments are FULL of 6-12yr olds (no I’m not exaggerating, you can click on their profiles if y’all don’t believe me) who believe Landon was some sort of martyr and he decided to donate his organs and therefore purposely end his life. That or they still believe he overdosed. I saw a few comments that they weren’t even allowed to watch the video because their parents deemed it “inappropriate” for their age.

Basically what I’m trying to say is whatever y’all think about Cam, the real issue is her fan base is extremely impressionable. Just by evading the word suicide in her original Instagram and including the part about “dying like a hero, saving many lives” they’ve totally misunderstood the scenario. That’s the bigger point here


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This is another point about why I'm against the whole idea of YT stars, whether is be a teen mom or someone like Markiplier. Their fanbases are extremely impressionable, to the point that you have children wanting to be exactly like them. On Maddie Lambert's TikToks, you've got 13 and 14 year old girls saying that they PURPOSELY got pregnant and they 'need' her advice. On Cam's, you have ignorant (not insulting, saying they literally do not know any better) children who are treating the whole situation like Landon is a hero, when he was a kid a little older than them suffering from an illness.

Yes, the arguments here can get intense, but I think the real issue is that her fanbase - and the fanbase of many other 'teen mom influencers' - can be insanely toxic, uneducated, and impressionable.

I say issues like that (the whole martyr thing) is yet another reason why Cam should leave the YT scene. Say your goodbyes, put the camera down, and back away before hundreds, if not thousands of children start getting the wrong idea. That goes for many of the other 'teen mom influencers' on YT.

[here4thedrama]

Glad people here are calling out some of the other commentators here. I have no issue with criticizing the other moms here, but Cam is a bit different. She's literally only 19 years old and has gone through countless traumatic experiences, she literally has PTSD. I'm her age and couldn't imagine going through all she has, who cares if she makes cringey tiktok videos, she can cope however she chooses, she's incredibly strong. How do you think she feels having to live with the fact that she saw Landon, the love of her life, her best friend since she was 14, hanging himself and knowing he is never coming back? That she has to raise two kids alone? That she'll never know how Landon felt in his final moments? That she never got closure with him, not even a note?

Cam has for sure made questionable choices and I disagree with things she's done, but this thread is absolutely brutal. Let her breathe. And with the serious subject matter of what happened to Landon, you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. Give her a freaking break, and be kinder...you never know how much a person can be affected by words.

"you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. "

That's true, but it goes the other way too. How do you think her constant tearing Landon down affected him? How do you think he felt when she would make fun of him with her friends, or belittle him on camera, or even just make remarks that were not only out of place but out of line? How do you think he felt when the love of his life would record herself and her friends calling him pussy-whipped, then post it on YT? Do you honestly think that was something he wanted, something he enjoyed? And if we saw that as often as we did ON camera, how much more do you think went on OFF camera?

Yes, I get that Cam has made some very questionable decisions, and I think we can all agree that she's not perfect. However, everyone here defending her like she's the second coming of Christ himself is rather despicable, because you're only focusing on "Oh, but her husband died and now she's going through a lot!". Give me a fucking break. She contributed to his suicide just as much as any of the other external factors, and everyone who is so quick to defend her because of her CURRENT circumstance needs to understand that her actions - ALL of them - led to this point. Like I said before, she doesn't get a free pass now just because her husband killed himself. Her actions - degrading Landon both on and off camera - have consequences. She's living through them.

And honestly? I know some of you are going to come after me and slam me into the ground for "Hating" on Cam. Go ahead, I've got nothing to lose from you Stans.

Wait, what?! She called him pussy-whipped? Do you know in which video this happened? I wanna analyse the tone of her voice and his reaction. Or if you know how long ago that was, it is also helpful.
And yes, she was brutal with him. She didn't held back on jokes and you can see that those came from a teenager who doesn't give two shits about mental health or she doesn't know. Or... she knows but is too ignorant to stop (I am talking about her past self).
It's terrible that for her to realise it is wrong what she was doing was for Landon to do the unimaginable. I can guarantee that she won't be this ignorant anymore, she won't say anything bad about someone else, not even in a jokingly manner. She learned her lesson the hard (and somehow wrong) way.
And before anyone else says that those words didn't contribute to his degrading mental health, you are wrong. I don't wanna share my personal life on here, but something similar happens to me too and it drives me insane, it makes me think about suicide every now and then.

It was this video, starts around 13:10. They (aka Camryn) were discussing how their relationship was pretty much awful because she was an awful girlfriend and it more or less continued this way until she got pregnant with Collette. Obviously, this was her previous self and she didn't know what would eventually happen. She has grown up a lot for sure and I hope she continues to become a kinder, better person. I'm not interested in dragging her old self...but she fast forwards the only time Landon tried to tell part of the story and then she told him he missed a bunch of important stuff aka he told the story wrong, which was a common pattern/dynamic between the two of them. Watching this video sad because it basically explains that they were just kids in a half decent, mostly bad relationship then forced right into the pressures of parenthood and YouTube. I hope her young fans know there are happier and more fulfilling ways to live life than this...

[littlerocketman]

Glad people here are calling out some of the other commentators here. I have no issue with criticizing the other moms here, but Cam is a bit different. She's literally only 19 years old and has gone through countless traumatic experiences, she literally has PTSD. I'm her age and couldn't imagine going through all she has, who cares if she makes cringey tiktok videos, she can cope however she chooses, she's incredibly strong. How do you think she feels having to live with the fact that she saw Landon, the love of her life, her best friend since she was 14, hanging himself and knowing he is never coming back? That she has to raise two kids alone? That she'll never know how Landon felt in his final moments? That she never got closure with him, not even a note?

Cam has for sure made questionable choices and I disagree with things she's done, but this thread is absolutely brutal. Let her breathe. And with the serious subject matter of what happened to Landon, you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. Give her a freaking break, and be kinder...you never know how much a person can be affected by words.

"you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. "

That's true, but it goes the other way too. How do you think her constant tearing Landon down affected him? How do you think he felt when she would make fun of him with her friends, or belittle him on camera, or even just make remarks that were not only out of place but out of line? How do you think he felt when the love of his life would record herself and her friends calling him pussy-whipped, then post it on YT? Do you honestly think that was something he wanted, something he enjoyed? And if we saw that as often as we did ON camera, how much more do you think went on OFF camera?

Yes, I get that Cam has made some very questionable decisions, and I think we can all agree that she's not perfect. However, everyone here defending her like she's the second coming of Christ himself is rather despicable, because you're only focusing on "Oh, but her husband died and now she's going through a lot!". Give me a fucking break. She contributed to his suicide just as much as any of the other external factors, and everyone who is so quick to defend her because of her CURRENT circumstance needs to understand that her actions - ALL of them - led to this point. Like I said before, she doesn't get a free pass now just because her husband killed himself. Her actions - degrading Landon both on and off camera - have consequences. She's living through them.

And honestly? I know some of you are going to come after me and slam me into the ground for "Hating" on Cam. Go ahead, I've got nothing to lose from you Stans.

For the love of God, just shut the hell up. Stop blaming her for Landon’s suicide. They were both equally bad for each other. Landon was a dick to her on camera sometimes too. He made rude remarks too. There was a video where she asked him if he wanted anything to eat and he was being super rude and a huge douche to her. He literally went out and got wasted with his friends, which resulted with him hospitalized when she was WEEKS from giving birth and needed him by her side. Couples can be extremely toxic towards one another. Cam and Landon are the perfect example of that.
The fact that you’re making all of these absurd assumptions about Cam being the reason behind Landon’s death is absolutely disgusting. How old are you? 12? I kind of hope you are, I literally don’t know a single person with a soul who would say something as foul as what you just said. Would you even say these things to an enemy of yours? Would you come up to their face and say it? I really don’t fucking think so. Please get the hell off this forum and learn some empathy. Some of you guys make me sick. All of these comments that keep trying to justify what they're saying by being like "she's famous she signed up for this" no she fucking didn't. NOBODY signs up for the love of their life to die and then have some foul teenagers BLAME them for their suicide.

[poggers]

she just posted to her story a schedule of all her upcoming videos. she's posting 8 times within a month so i guess she's going back to youtube full time. how long did the waitress job last for?

[here4thedrama]

she just posted to her story a schedule of all her upcoming videos. she's posting 8 times within a month so i guess she's going back to youtube full time. how long did the waitress job last for?

Someone asked about her waitress job on an IG live recently. She didn't say how long it lasted but was probably less than a month. She said the reason she got the job was to make friends with people who didn't know her from YouTube, cause she didn't have any friends when she moved back to FL. She didn't end up making friends and her coworkers found out about her YouTube pretty early on so she ended up quitting.

I just saw her upcoming YouTube schedule and it looks intense. I wonder why she has to give herself deadlines for YouTube like that, it seems like a lot of pressure. Why not just keep the schedule to yourself so you don't feel stressed about getting everything done/thinking you're disappointing people if you don't post "on time"?

[sparkledglitter]

I'm far away from a Cam stan, I have never been into mom YouTubers that much but I have been following their family for a while. And I still stand by what I said, it wasn't Cam's fault. Sure, she has done things she shouldn't have done or say but who took the choice at the end of the day to kill themself? It was Landon. He isn't some kind of a hero if that's what you think. He has done a lot of shitty things for Cam and his kids as well, so it's not all on Camryn. For instance, who tf abuses their medicines and do drugs when you have a two-year-old and a wife who is pregnant? Who goes out with their friends just to get alcohol poisoning and has to be at the hospital when you know your kid and wife who is pregnant, depressed and dealing with a lot of stress needs you? And then when your second kid is born, you just ditch them all to stay with your parents hours away. Yes he needed help, but he didn't need to stay at his parents house. He needed PROFESSIONAL help. He needed rehab. But he couldn't even admit that he was addicted.

He didn't communicate with Camryn at all. Hence, why he wasn't the best partner. If he would have told her that he didn't want to move to Austin, that he had a drug problem, that he didn't want more kids, and that he was depressed, he still would have been here and Camryn would have understood. She could have done something. But what do you expect from her when she was all alone with her daughter and pregnancy with depression? While your husband was out there doing god knows what? And as soon she realized he had a problem, she tried to help and she did her best. But at the end of the day, he was the one who made that choice. And he left his family knowing that he never even bothered to get to know his second daughter. He never spent time with Delilaha. So who's the bad guy here? Him or Camryn?

Camryn got pregnant as a teen, but it is not only her responsibility. It is also Landon. No he didn't want kids, but that was the situation they ended up in. What should he have done? Just ditch Cam and leave? Just like the rest of the teen boys do? No one wants a freaking kid as a teenager. So it is not ''wow I feel bad for Landon, poor boy''. He should have used a freaking condom then. He and Camryn were irresponsible, so it is not poor Landon. If he really didn't want kids, he could easily have left. Camryn moved to another state anyway, so he could easily have stayed in Texas and not being involved in their lives. BUT HE CHOSE TO STAY AND RESPECT AND CREDS TO HIM FOR THAT, but it is not POOR LANDON? It was his choice! He is not a freaking puppy who Cam controlled. He made his own decisions.

Honestly, you guys don't understand mental health and suicide at all. You don't understand how the real world works. Even if Cam was the perfect girlfriend, he STILL would have killed himself. Cam wasn't the one who controlled him, it was the depression and the addiction. You guys are here laughing at Cam for how her behavior has been. But again, you don't know shit about ptsd and survivor guilt. You guys are uneducated. So if you REALLY want to criticize someone, then go read more about it and how this all changes your life. Then you would know that NO ONE but Landon had a fault in his death.

[Seller-Of-Souls]

Glad people here are calling out some of the other commentators here. I have no issue with criticizing the other moms here, but Cam is a bit different. She's literally only 19 years old and has gone through countless traumatic experiences, she literally has PTSD. I'm her age and couldn't imagine going through all she has, who cares if she makes cringey tiktok videos, she can cope however she chooses, she's incredibly strong. How do you think she feels having to live with the fact that she saw Landon, the love of her life, her best friend since she was 14, hanging himself and knowing he is never coming back? That she has to raise two kids alone? That she'll never know how Landon felt in his final moments? That she never got closure with him, not even a note?

Cam has for sure made questionable choices and I disagree with things she's done, but this thread is absolutely brutal. Let her breathe. And with the serious subject matter of what happened to Landon, you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. Give her a freaking break, and be kinder...you never know how much a person can be affected by words.

"you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. "

That's true, but it goes the other way too. How do you think her constant tearing Landon down affected him? How do you think he felt when she would make fun of him with her friends, or belittle him on camera, or even just make remarks that were not only out of place but out of line? How do you think he felt when the love of his life would record herself and her friends calling him pussy-whipped, then post it on YT? Do you honestly think that was something he wanted, something he enjoyed? And if we saw that as often as we did ON camera, how much more do you think went on OFF camera?

Yes, I get that Cam has made some very questionable decisions, and I think we can all agree that she's not perfect. However, everyone here defending her like she's the second coming of Christ himself is rather despicable, because you're only focusing on "Oh, but her husband died and now she's going through a lot!". Give me a fucking break. She contributed to his suicide just as much as any of the other external factors, and everyone who is so quick to defend her because of her CURRENT circumstance needs to understand that her actions - ALL of them - led to this point. Like I said before, she doesn't get a free pass now just because her husband killed himself. Her actions - degrading Landon both on and off camera - have consequences. She's living through them.

And honestly? I know some of you are going to come after me and slam me into the ground for "Hating" on Cam. Go ahead, I've got nothing to lose from you Stans.

For the love of God, just shut the hell up. Stop blaming her for Landon’s suicide. They were both equally bad for each other. Landon was a dick to her on camera sometimes too. He made rude remarks too. There was a video where she asked him if he wanted anything to eat and he was being super rude and a huge douche to her. He literally went out and got wasted with his friends, which resulted with him hospitalized when she was WEEKS from giving birth and needed him by her side. Couples can be extremely toxic towards one another. Cam and Landon are the perfect example of that.
The fact that you’re making all of these absurd assumptions about Cam being the reason behind Landon’s death is absolutely disgusting. How old are you? 12? I kind of hope you are, I literally don’t know a single person with a soul who would say something as foul as what you just said. Would you even say these things to an enemy of yours? Would you come up to their face and say it? I really don’t fucking think so. Please get the hell off this forum and learn some empathy. Some of you guys make me sick. All of these comments that keep trying to justify what they're saying by being like "she's famous she signed up for this" no she fucking didn't. NOBODY signs up for the love of their life to die and then have some foul teenagers BLAME them for their suicide.

Right here, this is why I call you guys Stans. When presented with facts and evidence, you feel the need to defend her as if she's some goddess. Never once did I blame Cam directly for Landon's suicide. Maybe you're not Stans, but instead just rage-blind that I dare call her out for her past toxic behaviour and not treat her as if she's the most perfect thing since Christ himself. Instead, perhaps you should take the time to consider that you're not mad that I'm calling her out, but that I'm telling the truth when you prefer to live in a fantasy. Instead of facing the truth, you prefer to take my words out of context and attack that, almost as if you have no argument for my statements as a whole and instead need to cherry pick in order to 'prove' your 'superior position'

I said, quite plainly, that she contributed to the factors that led him to commit suicide. Yes, there were other factors involved, and no, she is not wholly responsible. But the fact that you feel the need to not only ignore my words in favor of your preconceived notions but also insult my character shows me just how much of a Stan you are, no matter your claims to the contrary.

It's like I said before: those who cannot refute the argument instead result to ad hominem attacks - attacks against someone's character. Not once did I say that she signed up for the gossip, nor did I say that she deserved to have the love of her life die. No, I presented the facts as they are, and you chose to take issue with a single point: that I include your oh so precious goddess Camryn as one of the factors that led to Landon's death. Perhaps instead of reading through my post until you find something you can be offended at, then commenting in a blind rage, take the time to finish reading what I said, then reflect on it.

[Highlighter]

"you think some here would realize the impact of words and experiences what they can do to someone. "

That's true, but it goes the other way too. How do you think her constant tearing Landon down affected him? How do you think he felt when she would make fun of him with her friends, or belittle him on camera, or even just make remarks that were not only out of place but out of line? How do you think he felt when the love of his life would record herself and her friends calling him pussy-whipped, then post it on YT? Do you honestly think that was something he wanted, something he enjoyed? And if we saw that as often as we did ON camera, how much more do you think went on OFF camera?

Yes, I get that Cam has made some very questionable decisions, and I think we can all agree that she's not perfect. However, everyone here defending her like she's the second coming of Christ himself is rather despicable, because you're only focusing on "Oh, but her husband died and now she's going through a lot!". Give me a fucking break. She contributed to his suicide just as much as any of the other external factors, and everyone who is so quick to defend her because of her CURRENT circumstance needs to understand that her actions - ALL of them - led to this point. Like I said before, she doesn't get a free pass now just because her husband killed himself. Her actions - degrading Landon both on and off camera - have consequences. She's living through them.

And honestly? I know some of you are going to come after me and slam me into the ground for "Hating" on Cam. Go ahead, I've got nothing to lose from you Stans.

For the love of God, just shut the hell up. Stop blaming her for Landon’s suicide. They were both equally bad for each other. Landon was a dick to her on camera sometimes too. He made rude remarks too. There was a video where she asked him if he wanted anything to eat and he was being super rude and a huge douche to her. He literally went out and got wasted with his friends, which resulted with him hospitalized when she was WEEKS from giving birth and needed him by her side. Couples can be extremely toxic towards one another. Cam and Landon are the perfect example of that.
The fact that you’re making all of these absurd assumptions about Cam being the reason behind Landon’s death is absolutely disgusting. How old are you? 12? I kind of hope you are, I literally don’t know a single person with a soul who would say something as foul as what you just said. Would you even say these things to an enemy of yours? Would you come up to their face and say it? I really don’t fucking think so. Please get the hell off this forum and learn some empathy. Some of you guys make me sick. All of these comments that keep trying to justify what they're saying by being like "she's famous she signed up for this" no she fucking didn't. NOBODY signs up for the love of their life to die and then have some foul teenagers BLAME them for their suicide.

Right here, this is why I call you guys Stans. When presented with facts and evidence, you feel the need to defend her as if she's some goddess. Never once did I blame Cam directly for Landon's suicide. Maybe you're not Stans, but instead just rage-blind that I dare call her out for her past toxic behaviour and not treat her as if she's the most perfect thing since Christ himself. Instead, perhaps you should take the time to consider that you're not mad that I'm calling her out, but that I'm telling the truth when you prefer to live in a fantasy. Instead of facing the truth, you prefer to take my words out of context and attack that, almost as if you have no argument for my statements as a whole and instead need to cherry pick in order to 'prove' your 'superior position'

I said, quite plainly, that she contributed to the factors that led him to commit suicide. Yes, there were other factors involved, and no, she is not wholly responsible. But the fact that you feel the need to not only ignore my words in favor of your preconceived notions but also insult my character shows me just how much of a Stan you are, no matter your claims to the contrary.

It's like I said before: those who cannot refute the argument instead result to ad hominem attacks - attacks against someone's character. Not once did I say that she signed up for the gossip, nor did I say that she deserved to have the love of her life die. No, I presented the facts as they are, and you chose to take issue with a single point: that I include your oh so precious goddess Camryn as one of the factors that led to Landon's death. Perhaps instead of reading through my post until you find something you can be offended at, then commenting in a blind rage, take the time to finish reading what I said, then reflect on it.

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[futureccl]

I'm far away from a Cam stan, I have never been into mom YouTubers that much but I have been following their family for a while. And I still stand by what I said, it wasn't Cam's fault. Sure, she has done things she shouldn't have done or say but who took the choice at the end of the day to kill themself? It was Landon. He isn't some kind of a hero if that's what you think. He has done a lot of shitty things for Cam and his kids as well, so it's not all on Camryn. For instance, who tf abuses their medicines and do drugs when you have a two-year-old and a wife who is pregnant? Who goes out with their friends just to get alcohol poisoning and has to be at the hospital when you know your kid and wife who is pregnant, depressed and dealing with a lot of stress needs you? And then when your second kid is born, you just ditch them all to stay with your parents hours away. Yes he needed help, but he didn't need to stay at his parents house. He needed PROFESSIONAL help. He needed rehab. But he couldn't even admit that he was addicted.


Honestly, you guys don't understand mental health and suicide at all. You don't understand how the real world works. Even if Cam was the perfect girlfriend, he STILL would have killed himself. Cam wasn't the one who controlled him, it was the depression and the addiction. You guys are here laughing at Cam for how her behavior has been. But again, you don't know shit about ptsd and survivor guilt. You guys are uneducated. So if you REALLY want to criticize someone, then go read more about it and how this all changes your life. Then you would know that NO ONE but Landon had a fault in his death.

I mainly agree with you but with all due respect, I don't it's super educated to ask "who the f would do what landon did" because a lot of mentally ill people do what he did, that's who. Just in the last year I have heard of two other men (grown up, working married man) who killed themselves after the birth of their second child. I think it's safe to say that post natal mental health of fathers is not something many people know to look out for, but it is a thing! Also landon did get professional help, he did communicate with cam about his mental health at least to some extent. Unfortunately it seems to me that the professional help available is not good enough! He got addicted to PRESCRIBED medication. Which by the way is what happens to a lot of the addicts with ruined lives you see in the US. As I mentioned before, the system failed him like he fails many many people who either die by suicide or lose everything due to addictions. In my opinion it's not fair to talk about it like it was a personal failure, the truth is we could get in an accident tomorrow and get prescribed medication which makes us addicts. Or we could go to the wrong doctor asking for help with our anxiety and depression and adhd (which I'm sure a lot of us have, I know I do) and get prescribed an addictive cocktail of drugs and end up like Landon.

They both went back to their parents because they needed help independently from each other, and I think that was the mature thing to do for two 19 year olds parents of two. I bet landon's parents wish they had handled this crisis differently, maybe sending him to rehab pronto.

[littlerocketman]

I'm far away from a Cam stan, I have never been into mom YouTubers that much but I have been following their family for a while. And I still stand by what I said, it wasn't Cam's fault. Sure, she has done things she shouldn't have done or say but who took the choice at the end of the day to kill themself? It was Landon. He isn't some kind of a hero if that's what you think. He has done a lot of shitty things for Cam and his kids as well, so it's not all on Camryn. For instance, who tf abuses their medicines and do drugs when you have a two-year-old and a wife who is pregnant? Who goes out with their friends just to get alcohol poisoning and has to be at the hospital when you know your kid and wife who is pregnant, depressed and dealing with a lot of stress needs you? And then when your second kid is born, you just ditch them all to stay with your parents hours away. Yes he needed help, but he didn't need to stay at his parents house. He needed PROFESSIONAL help. He needed rehab. But he couldn't even admit that he was addicted.

He didn't communicate with Camryn at all. Hence, why he wasn't the best partner. If he would have told her that he didn't want to move to Austin, that he had a drug problem, that he didn't want more kids, and that he was depressed, he still would have been here and Camryn would have understood. She could have done something. But what do you expect from her when she was all alone with her daughter and pregnancy with depression? While your husband was out there doing god knows what? And as soon she realized he had a problem, she tried to help and she did her best. But at the end of the day, he was the one who made that choice. And he left his family knowing that he never even bothered to get to know his second daughter. He never spent time with Delilaha. So who's the bad guy here? Him or Camryn?

Camryn got pregnant as a teen, but it is not only her responsibility. It is also Landon. No he didn't want kids, but that was the situation they ended up in. What should he have done? Just ditch Cam and leave? Just like the rest of the teen boys do? No one wants a freaking kid as a teenager. So it is not ''wow I feel bad for Landon, poor boy''. He should have used a freaking condom then. He and Camryn were irresponsible, so it is not poor Landon. If he really didn't want kids, he could easily have left. Camryn moved to another state anyway, so he could easily have stayed in Texas and not being involved in their lives. BUT HE CHOSE TO STAY AND RESPECT AND CREDS TO HIM FOR THAT, but it is not POOR LANDON? It was his choice! He is not a freaking puppy who Cam controlled. He made his own decisions.

Honestly, you guys don't understand mental health and suicide at all. You don't understand how the real world works. Even if Cam was the perfect girlfriend, he STILL would have killed himself. Cam wasn't the one who controlled him, it was the depression and the addiction. You guys are here laughing at Cam for how her behavior has been. But again, you don't know shit about ptsd and survivor guilt. You guys are uneducated. So if you REALLY want to criticize someone, then go read more about it and how this all changes your life. Then you would know that NO ONE but Landon had a fault in his death.

Thank you for saying this. Commentator above called me a Cam stan. I am not a Cam stan. I just understand that there is way more to the story than we can realize. I never believed that Landon was as nice as he seemed. God rest his soul obviously, we do fucked up things sometimes without realizing the implications. But when I found out he went and got shitfaced with his friends when Cam was heavily pregnant, that just did not sit right with me. Him and Cam just had an incredibly toxic relationship that went BOTH WAYS but felt inclined to stay with one another because they were each other's "first true love". This is unfortunately a very common occurrence in young couples.

[littlerocketman]

Say what you want but I adore Cam's vlogs now. Her content is just so much better, I feel like you really get a bigger glimpse of her personality now. In the past I hated her videos because of how forced and monotone they were, but now they're extremely sweet and wholesome. Coco has grown up SO much and is talking a lot. I love how she 'features' her kids in her vlogs now, instead of chasing them around with a camera. I feel like it'll be a while before Cam is able to have a more motherly relationship with her daughters (it's hard to form loving and stable connections when you have PTSD), but I know she'll get there eventually. Also Delilah is the cutest damn baby ever. She is so so smiley. I loved today's vlog. Cam seems like she's slowly healing and it's making me really happy.

[polar_bear]

Who tf is Maycee Domph and why is she such a clout chaser? For real now, she made a Tik Tok in April 2020 asking Cam to be her friend out of the blue. And in her Tik Tok before that one she asks people this "If I made a Youtube video, would you watch?" so we can all assume why she even asked Cam in the first place to be friends. Miss girl, we already have mom channels which have, more or less, absolutely everything you can ask for. From petty drama to wholesome content. I absolutely hate clout chasers and she honestly seems like one. I hope that she won't take advantage of Cam because this poor girl has been through enough. I don't care about Cam but this time is different. Nobody has the right to beg for her friendship in order to gain a following. That Maycee girl and her daughter "Everlee" (she was so inspired when she named her daughter, ahem) can make other friends if this is her true intentions.
She came to Florida and they hang out together like they knew each other since forever. Cam even made an emotional "cheesy" Tik Tok at the airport and everything lmao. This whole thing is so forced. I hope it goes well tho