Cam&Fam | Part Three

[sparkledglitter]

Camryn isn’t better if its true, but what my point was is that since Graham is being accused of violence then he ansolutely had no right to talk down on Camryn like that. He knows how it is like to be accused of things, so why would he do the same thing? He is acting as if he’s perfect and he’s like «If my girl ever did something like that to me» in the video, but what about what he did to his previous girl?

[wonderwall99]

I don't even care if people DO have sex after loss but like, you do that with your partner. You don't just have sex after your husband dies with his friend because that's just how you cope. No, that's messed up.

And whatever graham's intentions were posting that video, he shouldn't have done it. He wanted to look like this perfect, high morals kind of guy but he just involved himself into something that had nothing to do with him. Maybe be feels guilty because that was his friend, maybe he wishes he could've done more or maybe he sees himself on this scenario, thinking if things had gone differently maybe Graham would've succeeded in taking his life during his tumultuous relationship with Elle. But none of those reasons justify him posting that video. And it's not because I'm defending cam. Whether these allegations are true or not, she still lost her husband and that sucks but i feel worse for Landon family. His daughters, parents, siblings aunts, uncles all of them. Whoever in his family sees these allegations about cam, this will cause a bunch of animosity in that family and I pray they don't take it out on the girls and cut ties. It's not fair for them because they lost Landon in such a traumatic way that Graham is just adding more fuel to the fire.

What I think about cam though, I will never know if she did those things but I do think their marriage was more toxic than she ever showed. I think she was bossy, entitled, rude and treated Landon like her nanny. Landon, as far as I could ever see from their vlogs was a kind young man who didn't have the balls to stand up for himself and tell her he deserved some respect. Their relationship seemed very forced especially during sit down videos. Any sort of physical affection she gave him he always seemed awkward because I believe it wasn't very common when the cameras were off. I'm not blaming her, I'm not saying she flat out said okay kill yourself. I don't know, I never will, but I don't believe she was as supportive and understanding about his mental health and most likely made it worse with her behavior.

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[stardust419]

I highly doubt she had sex with guys in the same bed as her kids. Her kids don’t even sleep in the same room as her. I don’t believe anything this guy says. He did the same thing with Sierra Watts after she left her abusive husband. He started accusing her of cheating on him and made a whole “exposing” video. The only part I really believe is that Landon confided in him and ranted to him about him and Cam’s relationship. I do believe they had a toxic relationship but let’s not blame Cam for Landon’s death? That’s honestly just disgusting and some of you should be ashamed of yourselves especially some of you being mothers yourselves but of course you probably aren’t. I mean honestly some of you just act like she’s a straight up sociopath with no emotion or empathy. Even if it is true, Garrett had no business making that video and airing out all of Camryn and Landon’s buisness 6 months after his death.

[dolphin15]

I don't even care if people DO have sex after loss but like, you do that with your partner. You don't just have sex after your husband dies with his friend because that's just how you cope. No, that's messed up.

And whatever graham's intentions were posting that video, he shouldn't have done it. He wanted to look like this perfect, high morals kind of guy but he just involved himself into something that had nothing to do with him. Maybe be feels guilty because that was his friend, maybe he wishes he could've done more or maybe he sees himself on this scenario, thinking if things had gone differently maybe Graham would've succeeded in taking his life during his tumultuous relationship with Elle. But none of those reasons justify him posting that video. And it's not because I'm defending cam. Whether these allegations are true or not, she still lost her husband and that sucks but i feel worse for Landon family. His daughters, parents, siblings aunts, uncles all of them. Whoever in his family sees these allegations about cam, this will cause a bunch of animosity in that family and I pray they don't take it out on the girls and cut ties. It's not fair for them because they lost Landon in such a traumatic way that Graham is just adding more fuel to the fire.

What I think about cam though, I will never know if she did those things but I do think their marriage was more toxic than she ever showed. I think she was bossy, entitled, rude and treated Landon like her nanny. Landon, as far as I could ever see from their vlogs was a kind young man who didn't have the balls to stand up for himself and tell her he deserved some respect. Their relationship seemed very forced especially during sit down videos. Any sort of physical affection she gave him he always seemed awkward because I believe it wasn't very common when the cameras were off. I'm not blaming her, I'm not saying she flat out said okay kill yourself. I don't know, I never will, but I don't believe she was as supportive and understanding about his mental health and most likely made it worse with her behavior.

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I’m staying out of this shitstorm, but your last point about Landon not having equal respect within the relationship was so obvious to viewers. Even from his very FIRST appearance on her channel (excluding the gender reveal at the restaurant), where he was on the phone, the dude was slaving away after school at Papa John’s providing for his family and Cam felt it was ok blow their money on shoes, and then brag about it to him.

Whatever happened during their relationship is their business and it’s in the past, but I think its quite clear that the dynamics were off - way off.

[RadicalFaith]

Can anyone please send me the video or a link to the video? I can’t get the one on this forum to work

I hope this works for anyone:

[puzzledbyit28]

I’m staying out of this shitstorm, but your last point about Landon not having equal respect within the relationship was so obvious to viewers. Even from his very FIRST appearance on her channel (excluding the gender reveal at the restaurant), where he was on the phone, the dude was slaving away after school at Papa John’s providing for his family and Cam felt it was ok blow their money on shoes, and then brag about it to him.

Whatever happened during their relationship is their business and it’s in the past, but I think its quite clear that the dynamics were off - way off.

I don't know how Cam's parents don't get way more flack here. They set the tone for Cam by treating Landon like crap. She gets pregnant and he wants to be an active father, but they move away to Florida thus intentionally making it incredibly difficult for him to be there for his child. Then he moves to Florida to be with his wife and child and Cam's parents make him live in a shed. Like ... your kid already had a baby. Why are you going to make the father sleep and live in a shed and make it THAT much more difficult for your child and her partner to take care of their child?

Cam seems extremely unfeeling to me. I don't think I've ever seen her act loving toward Delilah, and she's barely loving toward Colette. Her husband was struggling and they were incredibly young trying to figure out adult life and she puts more stress on him by deciding to get pregnant, knowing he's too insecure and self-conscious to assert himself or take control of his own life. That relationship was toxic, just like every other relationship in Cam's life.

And the reason they're all so toxic is because she was mistreated as a child, grew up in a broken household with parents who argued and split up constantly, had clear abandonment issues that were ignored, and was pimped out as child actor. She didn't grow up knowing love, and now she doesn't know how to have normal, healthy relationships and her life is a total mess.

I hope Colette and Delilah somehow grow up feeling more love than Cam did, but the person they were getting that love from was Landon. I hope Cam's time in therapy and experience over the course of the year helps her grow as a person, but I feel like we're just going to see her spiral into a neverending hole of toxic relationships and mental health issues hidden for the sake of a successful social media career.

[welcomeworld]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t graham say she slept with the best man after Landon died? His friend Collin was the best man and he has a long term girlfriend. I highly doubt they would’ve hooked up because of that and the fact that she already had such little time in Texas afterwards, and I’m sure most of that time was spent with her friends

[Qte715]

Can anyone please send me the video or a link to the video? I can’t get the one on this forum to work

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Thanks for posting this, I believe everything he said. I have watched Cam and Landon for a long time. I never posted on here because I actually just found out about this site from people who watch Aaryn Williams. I have always thought Cam was controlling and bitchy. She wants all the attention on herself. She did treat Landon like shit most of the time. Sadly I could see them having horrendous fights and saying things like what Graham said. You never think someone would actually do those things but it just takes that 1 fight to break that person. It's not Cam's fault, Landon is the one who controlled his actions. Sadly instead of walking away and trying to make his life better he did something that he possibly thought would just put a scare into her but turned out to be much more final. They were both children themselves trying to be adults with 2 babies, in a world that is currently turned upside down. I think Graham is struggling with a bit of guilt for not knowing Landon well enough at that time in his life to see his cries for help. He see's them now and realizes there were many red flags that he just didn't pick up on. Landon reaching out to him about working out, Landon asking for relationship advice etc... It weighs on someone with a heart that realizes it's to late to help. I hope Graham feels better getting all of this off his mind, but I don't think it will change many people's opinion of Cam. I think for the most part her viewers are young like her. I am not I am old enough to be her mom and grandma to her kids, so I see and understand what Graham is saying. I pray Landon is resting in peace, and I also pray for Cam to grow up and be a great mom to those precious babies. I hope she keeps Landon's memory alive so both those sweet girls will hold a piece of him in their hearts as they grow.

[Hbellaghy24]

In my opinion the relationship seems to have been toxic for a while, two young individuals who were trying to play house/adults that had severe mental health issues and little support. No one knows what went on behind closed doors but reading between the lines and peoples comments, it sounds like Landon had a lot of issues (overdoses,addictions) that Camryn hasn’t outright disclosed, probably out of respect for his family and their daughters.
While I couldn’t do it myself, I understand why Camertn felt the need to post a video on this after his death, that was their job, social media people- had she not said a thing it would have been criticized too. She obviously hasn’t disclosed the full story that is a lot more toxic than the one she’s giving and still trying to respect Landon and his struggles.
In terms of Graham disclosure of camryn telling Landon to ‘kill himself’ I think there’s a lot more to it. Personally I believe Landon had a lot of mental health issues and it seemed that perhaps when camryn tried to leave him/grow from the relationship he would pull this card of ‘I’ll kill myself’ almost trapping her in it. This has happened in so many relationships and the dependency levels become high for the ill person. They can’t view a life without their other half so there threat is to harm themselves. I’ve seen situation in the past where the partner in the relationship had just snapped and said ‘go kill yourself’. This is horrible and disgusting thing to say to someone, but in circumstances when you are being mentally trapped by someone who is threatening that over and over again to harm themselves if you leave, it’s understandable in some ways to have this pent up reaction of snapping.

Graham seems like he’s doing it for the clout. If he truly cared about Landon, he wouldn’t air his dirty laundry like this. He seems jealous of camryn making these moves and speaking out about mental health and in my opinion has now tarnished somewhat a positive spin on a situation. Mental health is a big taboo subject still and for someone to come out the woodworks and put people on blast for talking about it is a joke. We all have shady pasts and toxic relationships where things could have been better and regretful actions.
He’s a clout chaser who of course had to get in that Landon reached out to him for advice, putting in a screenshot where Landon is asking about supplements but making it seem that he’s reaching for help with his mental health. He also seems regretful that he just stood by and let this happen.

I truly just think that this is an example of a toxic relationship that they both were in for the wrong reasons. It seems like camryn has wanted to leave Landon for a long time but felt trapped as every time moves were made, he would trap her with health issues. It’s scary as a young couple, specially ones that have been together throughout there teenage life- people change, grow. It seems they both had high dependency on each other and this want to keep up a perfect image but were miserable.


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[Deesker]

Graham is another cesspool to add to the dysfunctional relationships with these people. Btw, he barely knew Landon. And why "out" Katie and Ben? It makes no sense to me. While all of this may be true, what good comes of it? I think about Landon's parents and how this would affect them. So selfish and inconsiderate. Does anyone know why Graham did a live with Allie Brooke on the same night he dropped this video? I know this is Cam's page but here's another example of someone who's friends with Cam and apparently is friends with Graham. Speaks volumes about how these people all use each other.

[karentheboomer01]

Graham is another cesspool to add to the dysfunctional relationships with these people. Btw, he barely knew Landon. And why "out" Katie and Ben? It makes no sense to me. While all of this may be true, what good comes of it? I think about Landon's parents and how this would affect them. So selfish and inconsiderate. Does anyone know why Graham did a live with Allie Brooke on the same night he dropped this video? I know this is Cam's page but here's another example of someone who's friends with Cam and apparently is friends with Graham. Speaks volumes about how these people all use each other.

I know right, these people are all so toxic and crazy. It's hard for me to believe it's a coincidence that Graham and Allie were in contact that same night. I also think it's wrong that Graham "outed" Katie and Ben, they let him and Cindy stay at their house in Colorado and this is how he repays them...?

[Deesker]

Graham is another cesspool to add to the dysfunctional relationships with these people. Btw, he barely knew Landon. And why "out" Katie and Ben? It makes no sense to me. While all of this may be true, what good comes of it? I think about Landon's parents and how this would affect them. So selfish and inconsiderate. Does anyone know why Graham did a live with Allie Brooke on the same night he dropped this video? I know this is Cam's page but here's another example of someone who's friends with Cam and apparently is friends with Graham. Speaks volumes about how these people all use each other.

I know right, these people are all so toxic and crazy. It's hard for me to believe it's a coincidence that Graham and Allie were in contact that same night. I also think it's wrong that Graham "outed" Katie and Ben, they let him and Cindy stay at their house in Colorado and this is how he repays them...?

100% wrong, even if it's all true. And btw, Allie's new boy toy was in jail. Poor Cartia.

[here4thedrama]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t graham say she slept with the best man after Landon died? His friend Collin was the best man and he has a long term girlfriend. I highly doubt they would’ve hooked up because of that and the fact that she already had such little time in Texas afterwards, and I’m sure most of that time was spent with her friends

Camryn didn't have any friends in Texas. She had to call those "fans" (I'm forgetting their names) they met at a pet store when she found Landon because she didn't have any real friends. When those people made a video to tell their side of the story they were harassed by Camryn's fans until they took it down. I'm pretty sure they said they never heard from Camryn again, she never thanked them, and they didn't get invited or told about his memorial (there was prob more to the story that I'm not remembering). We don't know if Camryn slept with the best man but he could've gone to visit Camryn to give his condolences and they could've ended up having sex, girlfriend or not. It's a bold thing for Graham to say if it has no truth to it. We'll never know if its true but it is true that Camryn didn't have any friends in Texas which is part of the reason she and Landon had such bad mental health, they isolated themselves with 2 babies and 0 help or lives outside of each other and YouTube.

[futureccl]

ok guys we're basically back to what we've been told to stop doing two pages ago: some of us are all "yes finally someone is saying the truth about how camryn killed landon with her bare hands" and some of us are "guys that's messed up".
I'm quite firmly in the second category but I just wanted to point out how that's dynamic we always go back to on here lols.
That guy graham sounds like an awful person and I'm not keen on watching his video so can't comment much on it apart from the fact that grief makes you do all sorts of things so sleeping with someone doesn't sound crazy to me. If your personal experience with grief was different that basically means nothing, soz, everyone is different.

Just a few comments about previous posts: cam's family didn't move to florida to separate them, they conceived collette on the 4th and july and cam moved a month after, her parents divorced when collette was still a newborn so clearly the move was to try to save their marriage not to separate cam and landon. If anyone it was landon's parents who were against the relationship because cam was a bad influence.
Also in terms of the fans who looked after the kids, I think that whole story is quite telling of how awfully cam and landon were doing: leaving their child with freaking fans they had met once while cam was giving birth! not having any actual friends or family to call after finding your husband in such a state? and these people going off and making a video about their side of the story three seconds after the memorial? And now a random guy making a video exposing cam? Views are money for these people, and they're all trying to make it big on youtube. It doesn't matter if it's bad publicity as long as you have one freaking video go viral.

Anyway, cam is making tiktok about youtube basically ruining her life about three weeks after calling some rando clout chaser she met on tiktok "my best friend". At this point I just hope she can mature quickly and finds herself a life outside of social media, but "fame" is way too addictive clearly.

[polar_bear]

Anyway, cam is making tiktok about youtube basically ruining her life about three weeks after calling some rando clout chaser she met on tiktok "my best friend". At this point I just hope she can mature quickly and finds herself a life outside of social media, but "fame" is way too addictive clearly.

For real. Did she not learn from the previous dramas and friendships with other teen moms? I am convinced that she isn't a great friend at all so "normal" people (those who don't have a YT channel yet) would not even bother to talk to her. She is lucky to have her siblings because this girl is so fake.

[futureccl]

Anyway, cam is making tiktok about youtube basically ruining her life about three weeks after calling some rando clout chaser she met on tiktok "my best friend". At this point I just hope she can mature quickly and finds herself a life outside of social media, but "fame" is way too addictive clearly.

For real. Did she not learn from the previous dramas and friendships with other teen moms? I am convinced that she isn't a great friend at all so "normal" people (those who don't have a YT channel yet) would not even bother to talk to her. She is lucky to have her siblings because this girl is so fake.

I was just thinking that even her siblings are a bit clout chaser-y if you see what I mean. The whole family is kind of high on her fame, what with addi starting her own youtube channel and corben launching a music career. I do think that it's the parents who messed them all up a bit, they (or at least the mom) were interested in getting famous a long time before collette's birth.

You make an interesting point about her being a bad friend. If you look at the draw my life it sounds like after hawaii cam never really had friends again, just bad influences and then landon as her one and only, and the teen moms for a brief moment which is clearly over. I do get that it must be hard for teen parents to make normal friends their age, even without youtube fame in the mix.

[puzzledbyit28]

Anyway, cam is making tiktok about youtube basically ruining her life about three weeks after calling some rando clout chaser she met on tiktok "my best friend". At this point I just hope she can mature quickly and finds herself a life outside of social media, but "fame" is way too addictive clearly.

For real. Did she not learn from the previous dramas and friendships with other teen moms? I am convinced that she isn't a great friend at all so "normal" people (those who don't have a YT channel yet) would not even bother to talk to her. She is lucky to have her siblings because this girl is so fake.

I was just thinking that even her siblings are a bit clout chaser-y if you see what I mean. The whole family is kind of high on her fame, what with addi starting her own youtube channel and corben launching a music career. I do think that it's the parents who messed them all up a bit, they (or at least the mom) were interested in getting famous a long time before collette's birth.

You make an interesting point about her being a bad friend. If you look at the draw my life it sounds like after hawaii cam never really had friends again, just bad influences and then landon as her one and only, and the teen moms for a brief moment which is clearly over. I do get that it must be hard for teen parents to make normal friends their age, even without youtube fame in the mix.

Corben seems like such a weird kid. He also just made a "song" about fentanyl.

[alexandramarie]

There are people I “know” that got bullied everywhere they went, would hop from school to school, from friendship group to friendship group and I always felt very sorry that no one treated them well. However, when I grew up I realized that if they were getting “bullied” everywhere they went and had NO real friends they were likely the problem (obviously they are exceptions). Having no friends is a serious red flag to me. I know people who have moved to a different country every year and have friends, people who are socially awkward and “weird” who have friends! Might not be a lot but they still do! And I know people who have been bullied that still have some friends. Basically I’m saying is that there is no real excuse for not having any, and the narrative of Cam constantly being used/ treated badly by people and not doing anything to “deserve it” just doesn’t add up for me.


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[futureccl]

There are people I “know” that got bullied everywhere they went, would hop from school to school, from friendship group to friendship group and I always felt very sorry that no one treated them well. However, when I grew up I realized that if they were getting “bullied” everywhere they went and had NO real friends they were likely the problem (obviously they are exceptions). Having no friends is a serious red flag to me. I know people who have moved to a different country every year and have friends, people who are socially awkward and “weird” who have friends! Might not be a lot but they still do! And I know people who have been bullied that still have some friends. Basically I’m saying is that there is no real excuse for not having any, and the narrative of Cam constantly being used/ treated badly by people and not doing anything to “deserve it” just doesn’t add up for me.


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I mean, I suppose Cam does have a few friends, it's just that a lot of them are kinda fake and all of them don't live in Florida anyway.

[alexandramarie]

There are people I “know” that got bullied everywhere they went, would hop from school to school, from friendship group to friendship group and I always felt very sorry that no one treated them well. However, when I grew up I realized that if they were getting “bullied” everywhere they went and had NO real friends they were likely the problem (obviously they are exceptions). Having no friends is a serious red flag to me. I know people who have moved to a different country every year and have friends, people who are socially awkward and “weird” who have friends! Might not be a lot but they still do! And I know people who have been bullied that still have some friends. Basically I’m saying is that there is no real excuse for not having any, and the narrative of Cam constantly being used/ treated badly by people and not doing anything to “deserve it” just doesn’t add up for me.


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I mean, I suppose Cam does have a few friends, it's just that a lot of them are kinda fake and all of them don't live in Florida anyway.

But if they’re fake are they really friends? Also in the sibling tag video she or addi made I can’t remember who her siblings and her literally laughed about how she has no friends


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