Cam&Fam | Part Three

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Do any of these people work during the day?

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[polar_bear]

*long post ahead*
Now it makes sense why she is so happy after his death. This whole situation is fucked up, she will never have peace of mind again regarding this situation because she CHOSE to lie from the very beginning.
She is literally fucked in the head if she thinks that she can lie like this and then attack people for speaking the truth. Ok, Stalin, keep your secrets and make people believe only what you want them to know, but your life will forever be miserable because of this. Lying is bad enough on its own, lying about something as serious as this is worse, let alone lying publicly to millions of people.
If I were Landon's mom or dad, I would be so mad. It doesn't matter if you were "his wife", they are HIS PARENTS, they raised him and gave him life, not you. You only took it and then lie about it on the internet! I would sue the fuck out of her and shut her lying mouth once and for all. And no, I DON'T blame ONLY her for his suicide, I am tired of the whole "it was nobody's fault but Landon's" discussion. He was clearly better without her and she was better without him, but what did she choose to do? Continue the stupid vlogs like nothing happened. Now tell me whose fault is that.
The couple's video only proves what we were talking on this forum. She is a lying, manipulative piece of shit who has no respect for her dead husband. Fair enough, she probably hated him, if he was that abusive as she portrayed him to be, I understand. But why would you lie and then play the fucking victim? Because you are a manipulative and insane person, that's why. I can't believe that even after these events, she still tries to show that her life is good.
Anyway, it doesn't matter anyway. It doesn't matter how many people take her side or not, she knows deep down that she is fucked. Once you lie to the internet and someone exposes you, there is no going back

[sparkledglitter]

Uhm why are somd people saying that Camrny isn’t the victim here? If she was in an abusive and toxic relationship, she IS thr victim? I can understand how she didn’t told us the truth in the video back in August. She had enough respect for him to not mention it. She didn’t want people to know that Landon tried to kill her, because it was something personal and she didn’t want people to remember him as that violent person. It honestly doesn’t matter that she lied, the point is that he is gone. And I can honestly see why she is saying how good her life is. She was tired of babysitting her husband, and she was tired of being in a abusive relationship. They both were tired of each other. Obviously, when you get out of a abusive relationship you’ll have it better. She just doesn’t want to admit it because it’s kinda weird to say «Yeah I’m glad my husband is dead because I now have the freedom». But no matter what, no matter how many lies she told us, she IS a victim. And Landon is a victim. They both were toxic and not good for each other. Landon didn’t had to take his own life, but he did. And it’s honestly wrong of us to say «poor landon, he’s such a hero» when he didn’t care about his kids or wife and when he made his own wife a victim. This is why victims of abusive relationships doesn’t come forward, because they are scared of reactions like «Ahh but you did this and that», or «You weren’t that good of a person yourself» or «I don’t believe you». It doesn’t matter how toxic she was to Landon, NO ONE deserves to experience violence. And I hope you realize why she didn’t talk about it in the video back in August?? When you’re in a abusive relationship you lie and try to convince everyone that you have this perfect life with your soulmate. That’s why she didn’t mentioned how they had a fight thr night he passed away, and that he slept in the garage. She just wanted to respect him because she did love him, and wanted him to rest in peace without telling everyone how horrible he actually was to her. Remember how she lied to the couple saying they couldn’t come because they were rearranging the house, when in reality, she didn’t want to see that Landon had smashed down the tv and punched holes into the wall? That’s the reality of a victim in relationships like these. They have no other option but to lie because they don’t want people to know. That doesn’t make her to a horrible person. Yes has made some bad decisions and she is not quite innocent in this situation, but it doesn’t matter. She is a victim. The couple aren’t and they just had no right to post personal business. They were obsessed with Camryn. Mariah sent her 50 messages in a row, they stalked them and knew their adress. She wanted Camryn to help her out with her YT channel. I’m sorry but that’s just wrong.

I don’t understand why they are still crying over the funeral thing 7 months later. Camryn had to call them because they lived 10 minutes away, and she had no other options because their family lives far away. They did meet a few days before Landon passed away, so she knew them and trusted them with the kids. That doesn’t make them bestfriends. And if you can’t help someone you think of as friends without getting anything back, then you’re a bad person. She wasn’t obligated to invite anyone to a small and private funeral.

[sparkledglitter]

Oh and also another thing. Even if Camryn did make a home made meal that night, he still would have commited. I don’t understand why they spent minutes trying to prove to us how they had mc donalds that night. It just doesn’t matter. Good for you exposing to the whole world that they had junkfood that night. Congrats. Let’s hate on Camryn because she told us something else.

[polar_bear]

Sorry for the second post.
This shit is actually funny giving the circumstances. She only cries when someone exposes her. It is so pathetic to be like this, to show the world every thing you do and then search for validation and reassurance that you are not an evil witch like the REAL people that know you in real life say you are. If a million people that have no clue about your life think that you are God, it doesn't mean that it is true, Camryn. I know she reads here since she knows that "thousands" of people blame her for his suicide and other dramas that are not present in her comments. I actually feel bad for her daughters. They will be lied to exactly like Landon's parents so their mother can keep her reputation.
It's too late to go back to normal for her. Those things will follow her all of her life which is the worst kind of punishment.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMe6hksk8/

[glitterthemermaid]

So I was a stan/ camily member/ whatever. I was because, before the move to texas, I liked her videos. They were entertaining without me having to put much thought into and whether they were real or toxic didn't really effect my life all that much. Then when Graham posted his video, I was still delusional and thought "no no no. this can't be real." Then when the 2 fans posted there video, my eyes were forced open. I think that it wasn't any of their place to post their 2 videos, but if they didn't I would still be ignoring red flags. Their videos were not tactful, but they changed my mind.

[here4thedrama]

how reasonable is it to say that camryn could have lied to mariah and parker about landon to garner sympothy in that situation? If that phone call happened after the video was put out, then it would make a lot of sense.
even so, if she lied once in the original video, what makes you think it's a reach to say she could've lied about the abuse? maybe she's all worked up on tiktok because she lied about the abuse to manipulate them, not knowing they were keeping record of anything. if the root of the situation was truly mariah and parker being "betrayed" by camryn, i think it wouldn't be that big of a deal to just explain herself.
i don't even see why she would've lied in the first place. why would she protect landon in this situation? the abuse story would've got way more views and sympathy. at least i think. i dont think she would ever lie to protect landon, since shes already used his story for so much profit.

this is true. I think she would've jumped at the opportunity to portray herself as a survivor of domestic violence if that really was the case. Once liars get caught in a lie nothing they say can really be trusted. I think that was the point of Mariah and Parker talking about the messy house and McDonalds everywhere, for those saying that those details are irrelevant, it shows that Camryn lied about everything from small irrelevant details to much bigger, darker things. Camryn never seemed to want to protect Landon or his image. From being rude to him in her videos to blaming his suicide solely on his "addiction" to his medication, she has never tried to protect him in the past, so why would she now?

[bethanyy525]

I’ve been trying not even to comment here because I’m not sure there’s a right “side” to stand on. But what I gathered from this video is that one of them were going to come out of this relationship dead regardless. Super fucked up.

And here lies my entire issue with camryn and her channel in general, is that she was making bad decisions this whole relationship meanwhile her large following idolizes her and looks up to her. Her marriage she admitted was just wanting to be a grown up, I’m sure her parents/landons tried to get them to wait but they probably wouldn’t hear that. The move to Texas hours away from any family. I don’t know if I would have the courage to do that as a middle aged woman! When you’re as young as they were they don’t think of every single outcome and everyone who tried to warn her was just a “hater”. And then finally the decision to have a other baby when their marriage and home was an abusive one. Instead of actually getting help I think cam is so manipulative she would rather make their entire lives miserable than to be wrong.

I also now understand the “relief” camryn feels. It was going to be him or her eventually IMO, she gets to walk away with her girls. And like someone else said she also now controls the narrative. Not that I think anyone needed to know the nitty gritty details, but she should’ve just stepped away from YouTube and not given a story at all in my opinion if she was going to paint her own picture.

Thanks for letting me rant lol


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[puzzledbyit28]

*long post ahead*
Now it makes sense why she is so happy after his death. This whole situation is fucked up, she will never have peace of mind again regarding this situation because she CHOSE to lie from the very beginning.
She is literally fucked in the head if she thinks that she can lie like this and then attack people for speaking the truth. Ok, Stalin, keep your secrets and make people believe only what you want them to know, but your life will forever be miserable because of this. Lying is bad enough on its own, lying about something as serious as this is worse, let alone lying publicly to millions of people.
If I were Landon's mom or dad, I would be so mad. It doesn't matter if you were "his wife", they are HIS PARENTS, they raised him and gave him life, not you. You only took it and then lie about it on the internet! I would sue the fuck out of her and shut her lying mouth once and for all. And no, I DON'T blame ONLY her for his suicide, I am tired of the whole "it was nobody's fault but Landon's" discussion. He was clearly better without her and she was better without him, but what did she choose to do? Continue the stupid vlogs like nothing happened. Now tell me whose fault is that.
The couple's video only proves what we were talking on this forum. She is a lying, manipulative piece of shit who has no respect for her dead husband. Fair enough, she probably hated him, if he was that abusive as she portrayed him to be, I understand. But why would you lie and then play the fucking victim? Because you are a manipulative and insane person, that's why. I can't believe that even after these events, she still tries to show that her life is good.
Anyway, it doesn't matter anyway. It doesn't matter how many people take her side or not, she knows deep down that she is fucked. Once you lie to the internet and someone exposes you, there is no going back

You can lie about anything you want these days as long as you have stans who support you - just look at American politics. Donald Trump was the president of the United States for four years and has never told the truth in his life.

1000% agree on it being super weird that she's still trying to show that her life is good and she is ***thriving***. It's so fake and everyone can see through it. That's also not a great way to advocate for mental health and suicide prevention--by hiding real emotions and putting on a happy face.

HOWEVER it's still disgusting for anyone to blame people they only know via YouTube videos for a partner's suicide. Cam did not take his life; he did. We have no idea what went on in that household and we will never know, but at the end of the day, police determined Landon took his own life. That's on Landon, not Cam, and it always will be.

I think what you mean in your post is that Cam contributed to the stress and environment which led Landon to take his own life, and I think she played a part in creating and maintaining a toxic environment for both of them, but other people survive dysfunctional relationships and jobs they hate. Other people survive having kids far too soon. I hated the life I was living at one point, but I'm not depressed and never once thought of killing myself as a way to get out of it. You have no way of knowing that Landon wouldn't have committed suicide 10 years from now in a different relationship or while working a different job.

Landon was sick. There is a chemical reason why he made the choice that he did, and it is that sickness--depression--that took his life. I know you disagree with this fact, but I think it's incredibly important that people learn more about depression, suicide, why it happens, and how to avoid talking about it in a harmful way.

I'm not saying this to defend Cam in any way - I don't care about her and am not a fan of hers. I'm saying this because this world doesn't know or care nearly enough about mental illness and mental health, and mischaracterizing depression just makes life for those who live with these diseases on a daily basis that much harder.

[Teenmomdramallama]

Just saying my dad committed suicide when I was young and my mom lied to me at first about what happened to protect me. I recently read “life after suicide” by Dr. Jennifer Ashton (highly recommend for anyone who as experienced loss from a family member or loved one). Anyway the author of the book said the same exact thing and she told her kids he had a heart attack right after. You go into defense mode when this kind of thing happens and it doesn’t matter if they ate at home or at McDonald’s. People just want to speculate at this point to get views. I had never heard of these people. The title justice for Landon is so inappropriate I would definitely have a lawyer involved. To show private messages like that no wonder cam doesn’t want to be friends with them. They seriously met these people 2 times and I have a hard time believing Landon opened up to them I’m sure he was just saying stuff they took very literal being huge fans. On to Katie and Ben I’m not even surprised because it’s hard to watch any of there videos on the basis of the clickbait titles. It’s very fitting that they would be involved and spreading lies about a friend after a funeral. This graham guy doesn’t even know Katie and Ben that well and decided to end their friendship over this but also trusts what they have said about camryn? Of course Katie and Ben will come out and say Graham’s lying but graham won’t care because he already decided to end his friendship with them so it’s his word against theirs. Na they are all just trying to stir up emotions on the internet of their 12 year old girl fan base.

[here4thedrama]

Sorry to post again but I just noticed Camryn blocked Maddie, I wonder what’s going on with these two

[Deesker]

Sorry to post again but I just noticed Camryn blocked Maddie, I wonder what’s going on with these two

How do you know?

[here4thedrama]

Sorry to post again but I just noticed Camryn blocked Maddie, I wonder what’s going on with these two

How do you know?

I follow them both and when I checked Camryns IG today it says they’re no longer following each other (looks like Camryn unfollowed like 200+ people today) and I know from blocking people in the past that your likes disappear on the other persons photos when you block them. Camryns likes disappeared from Maddie’s photos but Maddie’s likes are still on Camryns so it looks like Camryn is the one who blocked

[bethanyy525]

Sorry to post again but I just noticed Camryn blocked Maddie, I wonder what’s going on with these two

How do you know?

I follow them both and when I checked Camryns IG today it says they’re no longer following each other (looks like Camryn unfollowed like 200+ people today) and I know from blocking people in the past that your likes disappear on the other persons photos when you block them. Camryns likes disappeared from Maddie’s photos but Maddie’s likes are still on Camryns so it looks like Camryn is the one who blocked

She also unfollowed Ben but still follows Katie.


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[tatumcooper1]

Did camryns mom deactivate her Instagram??

[smck]

I noticed that Camryn unfollowed Kaylie and Mason and Katie also unfollowed Kaylie and Mason... but Cam still follows Katie and Ben? Still very weird and definitely drama happening within the friend group about this.

[esmegraceful]

Here’s the thing, I believe Cam’s side. No I am not some leg humper or stan but her side is more believable and realistic.

First of all for a y’all saying this Graham dude is “committing social suicide” and not getting clout y’all are wrong: controversy is the best way to get attention and as y’all have mention before his other videos are just talking shit about different women. His video was monetized and he gained A LOT of attention from it.

Second of all are y’all five? because any adult would know that lawyering up is the best thing to do in this situation. My parents are public figures and this pst year someone did something very similar to them (defamation) and instead of my parents being like “this ain’t true” (which it wasn’t true) they lawyered up and dealt with it legally because defamation is a crime and saying “they’re lying” won’t do shit because your name is already damaged. Lawyering up is very wise and mature and I think shows that she is above this instead of engaging.

Three: The Bredahl Bunch were stand posing as friends and I think they took advantage of Cam and Landons vulnerability (lack of friends) to weasel their way into their lives. It makes sense they got closer to Landon too because by the sounds of it Cam was busy with the kids behind the scenes because Landon was on drugs and was not functioning well. (This narrative is proved correct by his parents taking him in to help him with rehab and his Dad posting about addictions). Cam was busy with the kids and Landon was up at night and he had time to make connections with them especially because he was super vulnerable and these people seem manipulative.

Four, the cheating allegations: Once again I could see this happening when they were younger but A) she was pregnant pretty much the last year of Landons life and by the sounds of it looking after Coco and then him. B) There was a pandemic and Cam seemed to be taking it seriously as she was worried about Lilah making it full term and having to give birth alone. I don’t think she had time to cheat on him in the final year and the world situation doesn’t make sense for that.

Five, covering abuse? Drugs turn people into monsters. They damage people’s brains and flip their personalities. Someone who was loving and caring can easily become aggressive and dangerous when addicted to drugs with not only the drugs themselves causing damage but also withdrawals. Sure their relationship was not perfect and probably toxic but Cam seems to have loved Landon and it makes sense she would present a nice “happier” story of the situation and keep Landons legacy nice rather than saying “oh he abused me and held a knife up to me, he was aggressive and dangerous on drugs”. The loving thing to do is to lie and protect his legacy if that’s the case.

Finally in regards to her having sex with ppl right after his death, it is possible but I doubt it. Cam was at the hospital a lot by the sounds of it and then she went to his parents house with her 3 month old and then quickly moved to Florida. The time period she had to hookup with his best man isn’t very realistic, it’s possible but very unlikely.

Once again I’m not leg humping, Camryn had her issues and she needs a lot of work. Sure she chases fame a lil too much and she can seem to be quite snarky and have a past of lying and manipulating but I just don’t see this alleged story as being truthful. If you step back from your biases of Cam and really think about the situation it does not make sense at all and seems very unrealistic.

[esmegraceful]

I also want to address ptsd because it’s very misunderstood and it’s something that I think had put Cam under a lot of fire. Background info here I’m pretty much Cams age and I too had a massively traumatic event over Summer 2020. After the incident I got a lot of scrutiny from family and friends because I was “too happy” for someone who had just had a massive trauma. I was completely normal other than a few physical symptoms and honestly most of the time you wouldn’t be able to tell what had happened. My “happiness” lasted a month and then reality kicked me in the ass. I could no longer sleep, eat, and function a day to day to life. I was haunted by the trauma and eventually attempted once and then two days later was about to try again when I asked for help and was hospitalized and then diagnosed with severe PTSD. I was put on meds and things got better, mentally I wasn’t okay but it was easier to suppress. Fast forward to now my PTSD is really bad again as I had to bring up the trauma again. I’m now actually taking a two week break because I can once again no longer function. Please remember me and Cam are the same age: when I have a mental breakdown sometimes I’ll taking crying pics or videos to share that behind the scenes Im not okay. I constantly disassociate which is exactly what Cam does in one of her tiktoks. Sometimes I feel really numb and can’t cry, other days all I can do is cry and sometimes I’ll get days where I feel good and can function. What I can see from the snippets of Cams life she portrays is PTSD similar to mine. I know she’s a mom of 2 but some of the really immature things she does I do too because we’re still so young and we do live in a weird time where it’s common for people our age to over share on the internet. In regards to her posting schedule it makes sense that she hasn’t stuck to it because some days she probably can barely function and it’s hard to uphold a schedule when your like that (which is why I’m taking a leave at work). Do I think she should still be doing youtube? Yes and no: Yes because if I had a platform to share the reality of PTSD and mental illness I would use it because nobody understands it and it’s hard to function with an “invisible illness”; No because she needs to focus on inner healing and becoming a healthy adult, she also needs to focus on her kids too and yt does exploit them. I’m gonna guess I’ll get a lot of hate for defending Cam but I’m tired of seeing ppl hate on her for something she can’t really help. I’m going through a similar situation and I’m struggling to cope without two kids and the whole world watching so I can’t imagine how hard it is for her. She is not perfect but I feel bad for her and I sympathize her struggles, so please take all this into account when you snark on her for her immaturity because it’s really hard going through this and ofc she’s going to mess up!

[esmegraceful]

My final point for now (something I think I’ll get a lot less hate for saying lol) is that Cam NEEDS to get her girls off the internet!! Sure she can have them in a video every once and a while and maybe share a couple pics of them on ig but other than that she needs to stop exploiting them!! Idk if any of you guys use Reddit but if so check out the LaBrant subs latest AMA, it’s super eye opening and talks how easily videos/pics of kids can be put on the dark web and even be edited to make them look more inappropriate. There’s nothing anyone can really do about it except be super private with their kids and only show them wearing very ‘conservative’ outfits (so they can’t be photoshopped) anything like shirtless diaper pics, swimsuit and leotard pics aswell as short clothing are prime pictures for the dark web and it’s super creepy. I really hope Cam shows less of her kids in her next ‘phase’ of yt and hopefully deletes the girls ig page! Also in a lot of yt family Reddit subs we’ve started blurring out the kids faces and covering them up when we share pictures of them on there so I think it’s be great to start implementing it on here just so we aren’t spreading pictures of minors!!

[esmegraceful]

I also want to address ptsd because it’s very misunderstood and it’s something that I think had put Cam under a lot of fire. Background info here I’m pretty much Cams age and I too had a massively traumatic event over Summer 2020. After the incident I got a lot of scrutiny from family and friends because I was “too happy” for someone who had just had a massive trauma. I was completely normal other than a few physical symptoms and honestly most of the time you wouldn’t be able to tell what had happened. My “happiness” lasted a month and then reality kicked me in the ass. I could no longer sleep, eat, and function a day to day to life. I was haunted by the trauma and eventually attempted once and then two days later was about to try again when I asked for help and was hospitalized and then diagnosed with severe PTSD. I was put on meds and things got better, mentally I wasn’t okay but it was easier to suppress. Fast forward to now my PTSD is really bad again as I had to bring up the trauma again. I’m now actually taking a two week break because I can once again no longer function. Please remember me and Cam are the same age: when I have a mental breakdown sometimes I’ll taking crying pics or videos to share that behind the scenes Im not okay. I constantly disassociate which is exactly what Cam does in one of her tiktoks. Sometimes I feel really numb and can’t cry, other days all I can do is cry and sometimes I’ll get days where I feel good and can function. What I can see from the snippets of Cams life she portrays is PTSD similar to mine. I know she’s a mom of 2 but some of the really immature things she does I do too because we’re still so young and we do live in a weird time where it’s common for people our age to over share on the internet. In regards to her posting schedule it makes sense that she hasn’t stuck to it because some days she probably can barely function and it’s hard to uphold a schedule when your like that (which is why I’m taking a leave at work). Do I think she should still be doing youtube? Yes and no: Yes because if I had a platform to share the reality of PTSD and mental illness I would use it because nobody understands it and it’s hard to function with an “invisible illness”; No because she needs to focus on inner healing and becoming a healthy adult, she also needs to focus on her kids too and yt does exploit them. I’m gonna guess I’ll get a lot of hate for defending Cam but I’m tired of seeing ppl hate on her for something she can’t really help. I’m going through a similar situation and I’m struggling to cope without two kids and the whole world watching so I can’t imagine how hard it is for her. She is not perfect but I feel bad for her and I sympathize her struggles, so please take all this into account when you snark on her for her immaturity because it’s really hard going through this and ofc she’s going to mess up!

I have a lot of respect for this point of view, but let's please not say "I'm tired of her being criticized" because this is a gossip thread. We nees to collectively stop saying we're tired of people's opinions. This is a place designed to criticize Youtubers. We really don't need to be starting any more arguments about how cam deserves no criticism because this is a gossip thread. People are going to say their opinions, and everyone's opinions deserve to be taken seriously. Unless it's too far but most people don't go there.

Yeah I meant more getting criticized for how she handles her ptsd because you really can’t control it and it’s such a hard struggle. I agree we should criticize youtubers especially family channels because it is child exploitation and there are things Cam has done that we need to criticize. I just think we should lay off on criticizing her mental health because she really can’t control how that takes over her life and ptsd consumes and destroys your life at first and there’s really nothing you can do except seek help and wait for time to heal you.