Cam&Fam | Part Three

[emhhhh]

I checked Camryn’s socialblade for her instagram and she unfollowed 258 people yesterday

[unholyjules]

wow, i've missed a lot. can someone pinpoint the important things that were said in both the bredahl bunch and that graham guy's videos? one is too long and the other one is nowhere to be found. i'm lost hahaha

[littlerocketman]

A lot of information has come out about Cam and Landon in the past few days. We will never know the truth until Cam decides to speak out and be fully honest and transparent. I am not going to take sides, but I will say one thing. The only thing that would logically explain Cam's massive glow-up after Landon's death is if Landon was being abusive to her this whole time, like that couple mentioned.

[dolphin15]

wow, i've missed a lot. can someone pinpoint the important things that were said in both the bredahl bunch and that graham guy's videos? one is too long and the other one is nowhere to be found. i'm lost hahaha

I gotchu

First Vid (Graham-now deleted)
This was made by Elleandbabes ex-husband (someone correct me if I’m wrong) and it was a classic “expose” video where he made a bunch of statements about the truth finally coming out about Cam and how she is a horrible person/her YouTube appearance is completely fake.
The main point everyone took away from it was she supposedly slept around with Landon’s friends, including his best man shortly after he passed away, and that some of this info was provided by Katie and Ben who are Cam’s friends (they went to Colorado with them in 2019). I believe she’s now unfollowed one or both of them on Instagram.

Second Vid (Bredahl Bunch)
These people are the same ones who made a video shortly after Cam posted her original explanation video and then got bullied into taking it down. It basically just goes into more detail about their relationship with Cam and Landon, and what their version of events are the night of Landon’s incident, except this time it includes DMs, texts and a phone call w Cam where she says Landon was violently abusive near the end of her pregnancy w Delilah. In addition, the details they share abt that night tell a completely different story then what Cam originally said (like the house was a mess, there were holes in the wall, Landon had obviously isolated himself from Cam - not the happy family story she gave). They also mentioned how they were a lot closer to Landon then Cam, and she was very cold and awkward in their interactions.

That’s basically the rundown without trying to analyze where the truth lies, who’s on the sides of right and wrong etc.

Feel free to add anything I missed



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[blissablake]

wow, i've missed a lot. can someone pinpoint the important things that were said in both the bredahl bunch and that graham guy's videos? one is too long and the other one is nowhere to be found. i'm lost hahaha

I gotchu

First Vid (Graham-now deleted)
This was made by Elleandbabes ex-husband (someone correct me if I’m wrong) and it was a classic “expose” video where he made a bunch of statements about the truth finally coming out about Cam and how she is a horrible person/her YouTube appearance is completely fake.
The main point everyone took away from it was she supposedly slept around with Landon’s friends, including his best man shortly after he passed away, and that some of this info was provided by Katie and Ben who are Cam’s friends (they went to Colorado with them in 2019). I believe she’s now unfollowed one or both of them on Instagram.

Second Vid (Bredahl Bunch)
These people are the same ones who made a video shortly after Cam posted her original explanation video and then got bullied into taking it down. It basically just goes into more detail about their relationship with Cam and Landon, and what their version of events are the night of Landon’s incident, except this time it includes DMs, texts and a phone call w Cam where she says Landon was violently abusive near the end of her pregnancy w Delilah. In addition, the details they share abt that night tell a completely different story then what Cam originally said (like the house was a mess, there were holes in the wall, Landon had obviously isolated himself from Cam - not the happy family story she gave). They also mentioned how they were a lot closer to Landon then Cam, and she was very cold and awkward in their interactions.

That’s basically the rundown without trying to analyze where the truth lies, who’s on the sides of right and wrong etc.

Feel free to add anything I missed



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Graham also said that allegedly cam would tell Landon to kill himself or like he would threaten to do it and she would tell him just go do it ect


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[opangatay]

A lot of information has come out about Cam and Landon in the past few days. We will never know the truth until Cam decides to speak out and be fully honest and transparent. I am not going to take sides, but I will say one thing. The only thing that would logically explain Cam's massive glow-up after Landon's death is if Landon was being abusive to her this whole time, like that couple mentioned.

It would also partially explain why Cam said in her Q&A a few weeks ago that she has a lot of different expectations now about what a marriage should be and what she would tolerate in the future if she were to ever marry again (this is heavily paraphrased- I don’t remember exactly.) I mostly took that to mean the whole toxic co-dependency isolated from everyone else in their lives in general thing, but the abuse could add a different level to it.

I will say I feel uncomfortable with this abuse talk while Landon isn’t here to share his side of the story, but as someone who has been in an abusive relationship, Cam’s behavior now makes sense under this theory. It comes off as someone’s who’s now “free.” And it would still be completely normal to grieve him as her husband and the father of her children, obviously. I think people forget that. And maybe it was “only” while he was under the influence of whatever drugs, but it is so very frequently the sweet, kind, unexpected men that come out to be abusers. I truly don’t have any clue what to believe, but if I had to take a guess I’d say they were both very abusive in their own ways, whether it be physical or emotional. And if I had to take a guess again, I’d say both of their abuse tactics came to fruition as an unhealthy defense mechanism in their chaotic unguided lives. I’ve said this before but their whole lives together were a perfect storm for disaster.


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[here4thedrama]

A lot of information has come out about Cam and Landon in the past few days. We will never know the truth until Cam decides to speak out and be fully honest and transparent. I am not going to take sides, but I will say one thing. The only thing that would logically explain Cam's massive glow-up after Landon's death is if Landon was being abusive to her this whole time, like that couple mentioned.

It would also partially explain why Cam said in her Q&A a few weeks ago that she has a lot of different expectations now about what a marriage should be and what she would tolerate in the future if she were to ever marry again (this is heavily paraphrased- I don’t remember exactly.) I mostly took that to mean the whole toxic co-dependency isolated from everyone else in their lives in general thing, but the abuse could add a different level to it.

I will say I feel uncomfortable with this abuse talk while Landon isn’t here to share his side of the story, but as someone who has been in an abusive relationship, Cam’s behavior now makes sense under this theory. It comes off as someone’s who’s now “free.” And it would still be completely normal to grieve him as her husband and the father of her children, obviously. I think people forget that. And maybe it was “only” while he was under the influence of whatever drugs, but it is so very frequently the sweet, kind, unexpected men that come out to be abusers. I truly don’t have any clue what to believe, but if I had to take a guess I’d say they were both very abusive in their own ways, whether it be physical or emotional. And if I had to take a guess again, I’d say both of their abuse tactics came to fruition as an unhealthy defense mechanism in their chaotic unguided lives. I’ve said this before but their whole lives together were a perfect storm for disaster.


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I respectfully disagree that the only logical explanation for Camryn's "glow up" is that Landon was abusing her. Looking at Camryn's patterns of behavior since even before YouTube we know that she has a history of doing awful things, treating people badly, lying, cheating, manipulating etc. She wasn't afraid to people about it either. So to believe that someone who takes pride in the cruel things she's done was being held against her will and violently abused while pregnant just doesn't add up. I'm aware that domestic violence takes place behind closed doors and I don't like talking about Landon being violent because he is unable to defend himself but we have heard from several people that Landon was a great person and Camryn was not. The only person alleging that Landon was an abusive person is Camryn. She has already shown that she isn't credible. I think her "glow up" is because Landon being gone literally benefitted her as she can now do whatever she wants without having to take him or anyone else into consideration. She pretty much said this in her birthday video.

[blissablake]

Right I’m gonna say it. I’ve been in a toxic relationship before where the person I was with was being emotionally abusive. (Not physically thank god) I couldn’t leave because he always would say he was gonna kill himself. I loved him. Or I thought I did, so I didn’t go anywhere because I didn’t want him to hurt himself. However, I did grow to resent him. It’s possible to love and resent at the same time. Friends used to tell us all the time that our relationship was toxic and that I was being cold and uncaring. And that’s true. We were toxic to eachother. And I was cold and uncaring at the end because I was so emotionally done by that point. But I was trapped. And no one else could possibly have understood how I was feeling at that moment. I hated him and didn’t even want to touch him, but I cared so much for him I couldn’t hurt him. It sounds bizarre I know and looking back (this was 7 years ago) with hindsight I’m like??? You dumbass, why didn’t you just leave. It’s hard. And until you are in that position you will never ever understand it. We have both grown since then and he has approached me and apologised and we are on good terms since. It’s a shame Landon didn’t live long enough to reach that resolution.

All I’m trying to say is when your in it, it’s completely different from looking in with logical minds. Because everything about these types of relationships is completely illogical and often out of control


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[littlerocketman]

A lot of information has come out about Cam and Landon in the past few days. We will never know the truth until Cam decides to speak out and be fully honest and transparent. I am not going to take sides, but I will say one thing. The only thing that would logically explain Cam's massive glow-up after Landon's death is if Landon was being abusive to her this whole time, like that couple mentioned.

It would also partially explain why Cam said in her Q&A a few weeks ago that she has a lot of different expectations now about what a marriage should be and what she would tolerate in the future if she were to ever marry again (this is heavily paraphrased- I don’t remember exactly.) I mostly took that to mean the whole toxic co-dependency isolated from everyone else in their lives in general thing, but the abuse could add a different level to it.

I will say I feel uncomfortable with this abuse talk while Landon isn’t here to share his side of the story, but as someone who has been in an abusive relationship, Cam’s behavior now makes sense under this theory. It comes off as someone’s who’s now “free.” And it would still be completely normal to grieve him as her husband and the father of her children, obviously. I think people forget that. And maybe it was “only” while he was under the influence of whatever drugs, but it is so very frequently the sweet, kind, unexpected men that come out to be abusers. I truly don’t have any clue what to believe, but if I had to take a guess I’d say they were both very abusive in their own ways, whether it be physical or emotional. And if I had to take a guess again, I’d say both of their abuse tactics came to fruition as an unhealthy defense mechanism in their chaotic unguided lives. I’ve said this before but their whole lives together were a perfect storm for disaster.


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I respectfully disagree that the only logical explanation for Camryn's "glow up" is that Landon was abusing her. Looking at Camryn's patterns of behavior since even before YouTube we know that she has a history of doing awful things, treating people badly, lying, cheating, manipulating etc. She wasn't afraid to people about it either. So to believe that someone who takes pride in the cruel things she's done was being held against her will and violently abused while pregnant just doesn't add up. I'm aware that domestic violence takes place behind closed doors and I don't like talking about Landon being violent because he is unable to defend himself but we have heard from several people that Landon was a great person and Camryn was not. The only person alleging that Landon was an abusive person is Camryn. She has already shown that she isn't credible. I think her "glow up" is because Landon being gone literally benefitted her as she can now do whatever she wants without having to take him or anyone else into consideration. She pretty much said this in her birthday video.

I understand where you're coming from but I genuinely think that there is way more to the story that people are not seeing. Cam has done some pretty shitty things in the past (throwing a huge party at Landon's house, just being a bitch in general), but there is literally no evidence of her being 'manipulative' or 'controlling' like everyone is saying. There really isn't. Yes, she may have made decisions that were definitely too much for her to handle and unfair to Landon, but if she was the controlling psychotic bitch that she was, she would literally be just like Yasmyn. Aka always going out with her friends, having fun with no responsibilities, while she would force Landon to stay home and watch the kids and not be allowed to see friends or do anything with his life (exactly what Yasmyn is doing right now). Every little thing Landon would do without her would be a threat to her if she was really ~that~ crazy, but in some of her last videos Cam seemed very supportive of his decision to enroll in courses to become a real estate agent and just having some sort of life outside of her. They were in this together. Nobody was leeching off the other. At the end of the day, Cam and Landon were all they had. And that's why their relationship failed; they were toxic and extremely codependent on one other. Despite things getting horrible with them, you never heard her complaining about him going out with friends, she managed to keep his alcohol poisoning incident that happened a year ago under the wraps, she never, ever complained about him or their relationship despite him being hooked on drugs her entire pregnancy... Like do you guys realize that someone that was 'crazy' and 'controlling' would take every chance they get to monetize off all these things and play the victim? I am not defending Camryn. I personally do not like her as a person. But she is not some crazy psychopath you guys are making her out to be. She is just lost. That's all she is. With the combination of traumatic events that happened in her life and just being a selfish person, she decided that the best way to compensate for what she didn't have her entire life was to settle down young and start a family. That way, she would be getting all the love, care, and affection she so desperately lacked.

[emhhhh]

Camryn posted a new video today & posted about that on her story. I wonder if she’s not gonna address this at all

[In the middle]

A lot of information has come out about Cam and Landon in the past few days. We will never know the truth until Cam decides to speak out and be fully honest and transparent. I am not going to take sides, but I will say one thing. The only thing that would logically explain Cam's massive glow-up after Landon's death is if Landon was being abusive to her this whole time, like that couple mentioned.

I don’t know a bunch about Cam, but I attribute her glow up to weight loss. A trauma like that can have you dropping a lot of weight fast, and when you’ve not been comfortable in your body for a long time (or pregnant back to back) then having a ‘new’ body can be intoxicating.
Not saying that’s enough for you to heal over the death of your husband, but it’s enough to have interest again in clothing and makeup and making an effort and that’s a mood lifter in itself

[futureccl]

A lot of information has come out about Cam and Landon in the past few days. We will never know the truth until Cam decides to speak out and be fully honest and transparent. I am not going to take sides, but I will say one thing. The only thing that would logically explain Cam's massive glow-up after Landon's death is if Landon was being abusive to her this whole time, like that couple mentioned.

I don’t know a bunch about Cam, but I attribute her glow up to weight loss. A trauma like that can have you dropping a lot of weight fast, and when you’ve not been comfortable in your body for a long time (or pregnant back to back) then having a ‘new’ body can be intoxicating.
Not saying that’s enough for you to heal over the death of your husband, but it’s enough to have interest again in clothing and makeup and making an effort and that’s a mood lifter in itself

Yes I agree, she's made several tiktoks about her weight loss and I think some of it was just her not being pregnant (or breastfeeding) anymore) and some of it was totally grief, and also moving with her family who can look after the girls while she's out cycling or whatever. I would say her family has probably been facilitating her self care for obvious reasons that have to do with the trauma. I would say that with grief there can be a bit of a manic period for a while, and then a depressive period and so on. I really wouldn't say that the ONLY explanation is that she was free from abuse. She was free from worrying about her spouse's rapidly declining mental health which I'm sure can feel "liberating" in its own tragic way.

I'm also pretty uncomfortable with accusing landon of being abusive, when obviously he was pretty out of his mind and spiralling quite badly. From what we know he was mostly abusive to himself which clearly resulted in him causing harm to his family, directly or indirectly. But yeah, if Cam opens up about the whole story we'll never get a chance to hear his side.

[Highlighter]

Camryn posted a new video today & posted about that on her story. I wonder if she’s not gonna address this at all

If she's getting a lawyer involved, it's probably best she doesn't address any of it, for the time being.

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[Seller-Of-Souls]

The only reason I can see her getting a lawyer involved is that she's trying to get her lies straight.

[Deesker]

No one knows what actually happened regarding Landon being abusive. Who punched holes in the wall? Landon, Cam or both? No one knows. We will never get the full story. Cam will distort reality for her own benefit. Was she protecting Landon? We know she skewed the story the night he passed. Let's face it. Cam is addicted to social media. She couldn't stay away to try and heal. One week after Landon passed, she made the video about what happened. When she told Mariah Landon held a knife to her throat when she was pregnant, I took it with a grain of salt. Everything is an illusion with these influencers. Landon can't defend himself. I do see Cam as very calculating and vindictive. Just watch the video where she pretended her water broke and knew Landon already had anxiety. That video was disturbing as she acted very non chalant, knowing full well it was causing Landon severe anxiety bc she didn't want to go to the hospital. That's vicious, people so she was a contributor to his suicide with her actions.

[oliboboli]

I haven’t been on this forum for a looong time but to me it sounds like Cam & Landon’s relationship was mutually toxic and both were pretty mentally ill whilst taking care of two small children as teens themselves, whilst having quite a public image. That’s a LOT. Like, a ridiculous amount, to deal with.

Given Graham’s history I think he’s a slimy little creep and whilst I’m sure there is truth to some of it he is probably hyping it up, as he has done with every video on young single mothers. He’s quite honestly probably a misogynist p.o.s who enjoys tearing young single mothers down. That’s my take.

[Seller-Of-Souls]

I think everyone is forgetting one of the biggest issues with this whole drama to begin with: in most cases where a woman is accused of something or accuses a man of something, she is automatically telling the truth in the eyes of her peers, no matter the evidence against her.

I experienced this phenomenon myself (from the opposite end) when I was accused of rape in high school. While I knew i hadn't done anything, my name was slandered and i was ridiculed as an outcast because the girl is lost my virginity to wanted to accuse me of raping her (but that's a story for another day).

It wasn't until the school police officer vouched for me that things quieted down, but during that period of time she made up many nasty things about me, all of which were taken as truth simply because a woman said them.

With Cam, we see the evidence, we see the patterns, but in the eyes of everyone else, she is always telling the truth because that's the social stigma .

Unless someone comes out with recordings of Cam telling Landon to kill himself or photos of her banging another dude on his bed, nobody outside of this forum is going to believe she's guilty, no matter the evidence, patterns, or behaviours presented to them.

Hell, some of his here are willing to defend her to our last breath, even if it makes us look like utter fools....

[Dandelion11]

Ohhh. No wonder so many posts come across as incredibly misogynistic.

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[Seller-Of-Souls]

Ohhh. No wonder so many posts come across as incredibly misogynistic.

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With all due respect, either keep your posts about Cam or don't make posts at all. Comments like that are why the mods had to step in to begin with. If you have a problem, be it with myself or with another user, take it to personal messages or otherwise don't say anything at all.

I'm sorry you feel the need to attack someone's character or to use someone's backstory against them, and I honestly hope you get over whatever chip you have on your shoulder that causes that. However, someone's background does not define who they are, and should be respected in the the context it was brought up in.

[esmegraceful]

The only reason I can see her getting a lawyer involved is that she's trying to get her lies straight.

Getting a lawyer involved is the best thing for her to do especially when lies are being spread about her. Her character is being destroyed and that is defamation which is a crime. I have experience with defamation cases and the accused party got lawyers involved so they could clear their name legally. Lawyering up in this situation does not make her look guilty and I think it’s a really wise and mature decision rather than making drama out of it!