Cam&Fam | Part Three

[Seller-Of-Souls]

The only reason I can see her getting a lawyer involved is that she's trying to get her lies straight.

Getting a lawyer involved is the best thing for her to do especially when lies are being spread about her. Her character is being destroyed and that is defamation which is a crime. I have experience with defamation cases and the accused party got lawyers involved so they could clear their name legally. Lawyering up in this situation does not make her look guilty and I think it’s a really wise and mature decision rather than making drama out of it!

There might not be any defamation though. In the description of Graham's video, he states what he is saying is purely what he has been told and his opinions on the information. As far as I can see, he's not presenting them as fact, and as such could be protected under commentary laws and the 1st Amendment.

[Whateverlove]

I tried listening to the podcast. I couldn't even get past a few minutes. It's so boring.

[here4thedrama]

The only reason I can see her getting a lawyer involved is that she's trying to get her lies straight.

Getting a lawyer involved is the best thing for her to do especially when lies are being spread about her. Her character is being destroyed and that is defamation which is a crime. I have experience with defamation cases and the accused party got lawyers involved so they could clear their name legally. Lawyering up in this situation does not make her look guilty and I think it’s a really wise and mature decision rather than making drama out of it!

There might not be any defamation though. In the description of Graham's video, he states what he is saying is purely what he has been told and his opinions on the information. As far as I can see, he's not presenting them as fact, and as such could be protected under commentary laws and the 1st Amendment.

Exactly. First and foremost they all live in different states. Idk where Graham lives but Camryn would have to sue Mariah and Parker in Texas and you can't do that online you would have to travel to their jurisdiction and hire an attorney who is licensed to practice in that state. Then defamation would have to be proven which is not easy to do. No one said they were stating facts about Camryn, Mariah and Parker were careful about saying that they were giving their personal version of events. The website I linked says "the law recognizes that an assertion of a subjective opinion does not necessarily represent a statement of fact and therefore will not support a defamation claim." And then she would have to prove monetary damages, and she is still getting views and making money in fact she is probably going to make more money with that snooze fest of a podcast so she won't be able to show that her finances were affected by any of this.

https://freemanlaw.com/defamation/

[here4thedrama]

I tried listening to the podcast. I couldn't even get past a few minutes. It's so boring.

I couldn't make it past the first 30 seconds. I watched the bts video and that was painful to get through as well. It was disappointing (but not surprising) that the whole thing is scripted. I thought podcasts were supposed to be real conversations between people who have something interesting to talk about. What's the point of a scripted and highly edited podcast? I don't see this going anywhere.

[p0pcorn]

I'm not an expert, but I believe everything Mariah and Parker did was legal. Everything they asserted was backed up with evidence. Even recording the phonecall without Cam's knowledge was legal because texas is a one party consent state.

I can't speak on the Graham video because I didn't see it, but I don't see much point in Cam taking legal action against him when he's already taken down the video and his baby mama has confirmed that he is broke.

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[Seller-Of-Souls]

I'm not an expert, but I believe everything Mariah and Parker did was legal. Everything they asserted was backed up with evidence. Even recording the phonecall without Cam's knowledge was legal because texas is a one party consent state.

I can't speak on the Graham video because I didn't see it, but I don't see much point in Cam taking legal action against him when he's already taken down the video and his baby mama has confirmed that he is broke.

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For people like Cam, it's not about gaining something, it's about sending a message. The message being that you don't get to make her look bad, not without consequences. This isn't about damages or defamation, it's about her EGO. That's what's fueling this, her need to feel like she's right and in control, to remove all of the potentially damaging information about her that might be floating around, true or otherwise.

[KKand3boys]

I'm assuming the reason she got her lawyer involved is specifically because of the part where Graham said she encouraged Landon to kill himself. That's a very serious accusation, and something people have gone to prison for. Not that it really matters because there's no investigation or anything, but you can never be too careful. Telling her lawyer immediately was definitely the right thing to do, just in case it snowballed into something bigger.

That goes for everyone, not just Cam - You should always legally protect yourself as much as you possibly can, that's way more important in the long run than random people thinking it makes you look guilty.

[blissablake]

I’m not trying to argue with you seller of souls but cam getting a lawyer to represent her is similar to you having the person you did stand up and speak up for you. Everyone deserves a defence/representative


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[LexiRae]

Something I just realized and would like to point out is the fact that Landon’s best friends father made a few Facebook statuses about Camryn back in the summer when all of this happened. The statuses were talking about how badly Camryn treated him, and one status even said that everyone will find out the truth.

So far that’s the friends father, the Bredahl bunch, and graham who have all come forward to talk about the dark shit that was going on with the treatment of Landon.

How on earth could anybody see all of this and think all of these people are lying? Why would anybody lie about this? Especially sources that are actually close with the family.


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[here4thedrama]

Something I just realized and would like to point out is the fact that Landon’s best friends father made a few Facebook statuses about Camryn back in the summer when all of this happened. The statuses were talking about how badly Camryn treated him, and one status even said that everyone will find out the truth.

So far that’s the friends father, the Bredahl bunch, and graham who have all come forward to talk about the dark shit that was going on with the treatment of Landon.

How on earth could anybody see all of this and think all of these people are lying? Why would anybody lie about this? Especially sources that are actually close with the family.


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Wow I didn't know this. Do you have his best friend's/best friend's fathers name? I def am interested in seeing what he said if its not deleted by now.

Yeah I don't see what any of these people have to gain by lying about this. If anything they are just getting harassed. And they have no relationship to one another, so it's not like they all got together to come up with a bunch of lies to ruin her reputation. It really is just about her ego and her need to control her image so we think she's a good person.

To those who think there isn't evidence of Camryn controlling or manipulating anyone...she manipulated her entire audience. Lol. She could've just been honest about her struggles and she probably would have been more relatable that way.

[futureccl]

Yeah I don't see what any of these people have to gain by lying about this. If anything they are just getting harassed. And they have no relationship to one another, so it's not like they all got together to come up with a bunch of lies to ruin her reputation. It really is just about her ego and her need to control her image so we think she's a good person.

To those who think there isn't evidence of Camryn controlling or manipulating anyone...she manipulated her entire audience. Lol. She could've just been honest about her struggles and she probably would have been more relatable that way.
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Uhm to respond to your point, graham posts a video, people start talking about it and boom, the fan couple also posts a video after months and months of silence, because it's A HOT TOPIC. These people are all trying to launch their own youtube channels, they're not randoms who know cam from the grocery store, they're literally connected to her by her youtube fame. Idk, I also wouldn't like being harassed, but they also get people wanting more videos from them and giving them attention, which is very worth the harassment if you're trying to make it on youtube, which these people are. Maybe they're telling the truth, I don't particularly care, but they also want the attention, it's quite obvious to me (and many others I'm sure).

I'm sure people close to landon and cam have their own opinions about the whole story, and at least some of them blame cam to some extent because you can argue that IF youtube fame and having two kids young is what caused landon's mental illness then sure, it's all cam's fault, landon wouldn't have done those things by himself. It's a very divisive topic because people have different understandings of mental illness and suicide, but I'd say most people shut up about it because a) it's too late, landon's gone and b) there's children involved who need at least one parent around.

[4Puzzlepieces]

I knew girls like her up who were sweet in person but assholes behind closed doors. There is an open book on camryn and her family about they're life on her tween instagram. Boy crazy, wild child, obviously looked and still looks up to her older sister whom I honestly don't feel is really a good example. Where I feel for Addie is she had to grow up fast but when mom and dad weren't around she did get own thing dragging her siblings along. A baby twerking with her legs up in the wall in a headstand? Where are the parents when all of these videos were being made. It just seemed like there was hardly any supervision. It still almost seems that way with the youngest sister. She's being thrown into the spotlight and they are all craving the attention. Shy my ass! Camryn says she's shy but dances around in her tiktok videos with hardly any clothes on?! Flips people off and makes videos of rebellious tiktoks of warped voices saying she don't care what people say. There are videos and many hints of the things that were clearly going on. If you watch the video of them at the pool with her sister and boyfriend you can see the awkwardness on Landon's face like he didn't want to be on camera. It almost looked like they must have argued but we're putting on face. Her face says it all as well. I can't imagine what his mother and father felt when she said he held a knife to her when she was pregnant?! If there was domestic violence that serious Collette would be acting out allot, be afraid of her daddy and add much as Camryn wants to come across as this responsible teen mom telling people not to have a baby just to have a baby. I don't think she'd bring another child into the world with a dad who does drugs and abuses her?! I really am curious about the drug thing though. He was wanting to get in shape, could he have been taking something someone was giving him? If he was popping his pills the way she claims, he would not have been able to get refills on pills right away as they have really cracked down on that problem with pill abusers. I have ADD and take adderall but also take pain meds from long term chemo issues. It is a very low dose and I usually take half which is why my doctor will prescribe every three months. He also sits with me every three months. If my doctor saw a drastic change in my health, saw that I was sleepy, slurring, seemed a little out of it like landon looked, he'd be questioning me and why I needed more!? They both had cotton mouth of you listen to them in the videos. And who knew more about drugs than her?! She talked about it like nothing in the video about her trading landon's families house. First off, why are her parents okay with her staying at landon's families house a whole week alone and not checking on they're daughter? That already is weird. Given her rebellious history! That family has nothing bad to say about him because he obviously kept her from her old ways while they were together. And maybe she's the one who contributed to him taking pills? I'm her camryn way she did put him down by saying things like " when he gets a real job, I can make him lunches " I almost wondered if she held over his head that she was the one earning the money?! After he needed glasses, she got new ones and he got her old ones. He pulled his own braces, he always tried but to spend too much if it was something for him. The broken television story didn't seem real, neither did the broken hand thing. Where did the story of the alcohol poisoning come from? Makes you wonder about that though? There are always two sides to every story and given the fact that she reverted to her old ways soon after he passed away means she wasn't finished or ready for being a wife and mom. In her 16 year old head I feel like she thought she could change him to her ways. He didn't seem used to doing allot of things her way. He wanted modesty it seems like. Her ways and the ways of those siblings ah seem to point to the mothers way of life. It's really sad. Her dad seems like a simple guy to, probably a push over like landon was and that's where things crumble. Landon was probably in a place where he just couldn't deal with her anymore. Her story didn't seem to fly with allot of people including myself. There had to have been some hurtful words or threats for him to get to a point where he felt he needed to follow through. Something lead up to that. I wish they would have investigated. Searched her phone and his. She claims she went out with a friend for shopping that day. But she has no friends? She didn't call THAT friend in her desperate hour of need? Just doesn't make sense. She did text a girl that they went to school with that lives across landon's parents house. I guess while she was there for his memorial she " got bored " si texted this gal. They went out and apparently she felt the need to tell her what happened. Camryn I think was trying to cover her basis on allot of areas. Her side of the family just send like a bunch on my numb to life people who pacify themselves with spending and social lives. That's all that matters to them. And her brother needs to find a daytime job. That song was horrible not to mention the fact that they are all capitalizing on his death and get siblings and mother on her. What a sad, sad situation. Mike with those two beautiful babies, hopefully the pattern will break but I don't know. Camryn in little pigtails and dancing like a 12 year old, flipping people off with her baby in her arms then saying bedtime prayers? Then turning around and believing in budah crap. Doesn't work that way.

[polar_bear]

In Addi's recent TikTok, you can see Cam in the background with a miserable expression on her face. I believe that she plays the sad victim whenever there is a camera around so she proves to us that she is suffering. She is quiet on all social media so people won't bring the drama up. Also, both her and her sister delete comments on IG about it. It is so funny how social media is her only income and "hobby" and now she has to keep a low profile. This is one of the reasons why you need a plan B

[4Puzzlepieces]

I tend to notice buddy laughable more I guess. And I think it's because I have kids that I can look at once and KNOW! Plus years of observing these "friend's " they'd bring over. I was one of those mom's and I won't apologize for that. Thankful my kids have actually thanked me

but you are in point about a plan B!
She seems to know how to get what wants so why not use the smarts to really go after something she's possible about it. Without throwing herself out there anymore and the babies. I noticed Allie comments on EVERYTHING! She seems to be trying hard to get attention as well. I'm just thinking is that her way of having camily fans click on her page?!

[Qte715]

I'm assuming the reason she got her lawyer involved is specifically because of the part where Graham said she encouraged Landon to kill himself. That's a very serious accusation, and something people have gone to prison for. Not that it really matters because there's no investigation or anything, but you can never be too careful. Telling her lawyer immediately was definitely the right thing to do, just in case it snowballed into something bigger.

That goes for everyone, not just Cam - You should always legally protect yourself as much as you possibly can, that's way more important in the long run than random people thinking it makes you look guilty.

It would still probably be a case of hearsay, especially since there isn't anyone that can corroborate it being true or not. We all know that when people are arguing and fighting things are said and done. I could see them having a major fight and Landon saying (you know what), and Cam saying oh just go ahead and do it. It's natural when arguing to just yell the first thing that comes to your mind. I don't think if she did say that, she really meant it or thought it would ever happen, but sometimes when fighting there are words that can never be taken back or forgotten, and have tragic consequences.

[4Puzzlepieces]

Does her mom have anything to say about all of this? Any comments from her?

[Highlighter]

Does her mom have anything to say about all of this? Any comments from her?

I think her mother is the last person Cam needs to have involved in this lmao

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[4Puzzlepieces]

Someone said mom and addie were no longer on instagram? Cleaning up a little?!

[4Puzzlepieces]

It's obvious though how involved mom is. She made Camryn use Turner for Collette last name even after Landons parents requested the paternity test. The simple fact that they had to request one is sad to begin with.

[Deesker]

I tend to notice buddy laughable more I guess. And I think it's because I have kids that I can look at once and KNOW! Plus years of observing these "friend's " they'd bring over. I was one of those mom's and I won't apologize for that. Thankful my kids have actually thanked me

but you are in point about a plan B!
She seems to know how to get what wants so why not use the smarts to really go after something she's possible about it. Without throwing herself out there anymore and the babies. I noticed Allie comments on EVERYTHING! She seems to be trying hard to get attention as well. I'm just thinking is that her way of having camily fans click on her page?!

I find that so ironic in that Allie did a live IG with Graham before he dropped his video.