Cam&Fam | Part Three

[propertyoferen]

Alyssa made a new Instagram page. @alyssabeachvibes , addi follows her

[welcomeworld]

Graham just went live and confirmed that a lawyer contacted them and he also said that Garrick from the van clan was talking to him about music yesterday. Interesting since Zoe and cam are supposedly best friends again but maybe not anymore


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[Ithinkthisisit]

I think this is Graham's video

[Everyusertookmyname]

Sorry I’m so late to the party
But I do really wonder about a tiktok she made showing herself disassociating near a bathroom saying she’s triggered by it given that Landon said he was taking a bath when he was really taking his life.
From everything here, it doesn’t sound like that happened on that evening at alllll


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[Dandelion11]

Ohhh. No wonder so many posts come across as incredibly misogynistic.

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With all due respect, either keep your posts about Cam or don't make posts at all. Comments like that are why the mods had to step in to begin with. If you have a problem, be it with myself or with another user, take it to personal messages or otherwise don't say anything at all.

I'm sorry you feel the need to attack someone's character or to use someone's backstory against them, and I honestly hope you get over whatever chip you have on your shoulder that causes that. However, someone's background does not define who they are, and should be respected in the the context it was brought up in.

What are you talking about? By you assuming my post, which didn't quote or reference anyone on this forum at all, was about you then you must think you come across as misogynistic... Not sure why else you would feel called out.

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[here4thedrama]

This is just a theory but I wonder if Alyssa's IG account got deleted because she had a bunch of fake followers? When I first saw her account I thought it was odd that she had so many followers and I figured she paid for followers and likes. Instagram is cracking down on accounts with fake followers and deleting them for being fraudulent. She claims hackers are holding her account for "ransom" but that story sounds fake and we know how this family rolls by now. Also she's tagging Camryn and Addi in her stories hoping they'll repost it so their followers will follow her new account. Imagine your mom doing this lol. Just get a real job instead of promoting embarrassing MLMs and posting yourself parading around town without a mask.

[Seller-Of-Souls]

Ohhh. No wonder so many posts come across as incredibly misogynistic.

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With all due respect, either keep your posts about Cam or don't make posts at all. Comments like that are why the mods had to step in to begin with. If you have a problem, be it with myself or with another user, take it to personal messages or otherwise don't say anything at all.

I'm sorry you feel the need to attack someone's character or to use someone's backstory against them, and I honestly hope you get over whatever chip you have on your shoulder that causes that. However, someone's background does not define who they are, and should be respected in the the context it was brought up in.

What are you talking about? By you assuming my post, which didn't quote or reference anyone on this forum at all, was about you then you must think you come across as misogynistic... Not sure why else you would feel called out.

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Perhaps because you not only have a history of attacking both my character and my background, but also because your post immediately followed my mentioning that I had been accused of rape and added nothing to the current conversation of Cams drama worth saying or reading.

I'm sure that many others would also draw the conclusion that you are inferring my previous posts were misogynistic, simply from your immediate response and wording. It also doesn't help that you've agreed with many individuals that I've argued with, especially on posts including character attacks. That sort of history doesn't lend you any help in this matter.

Regardless, comments like that shouldn't have been made, as it could easily be seen as attacking someone, and should be kept to DMs or not posted at all.

I'm not looking for a fight, so I'm ending my statement here. Perhaps be a little more careful with your words in the future.

[Dandelion11]

With all due respect, either keep your posts about Cam or don't make posts at all. Comments like that are why the mods had to step in to begin with. If you have a problem, be it with myself or with another user, take it to personal messages or otherwise don't say anything at all.

I'm sorry you feel the need to attack someone's character or to use someone's backstory against them, and I honestly hope you get over whatever chip you have on your shoulder that causes that. However, someone's background does not define who they are, and should be respected in the the context it was brought up in.

What are you talking about? By you assuming my post, which didn't quote or reference anyone on this forum at all, was about you then you must think you come across as misogynistic... Not sure why else you would feel called out.

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Perhaps because you not only have a history of attacking both my character and my background, but also because your post immediately followed my mentioning that I had been accused of rape and added nothing to the current conversation of Cams drama worth saying or reading.

I'm sure that many others would also draw the conclusion that you are inferring my previous posts were misogynistic, simply from your immediate response and wording. It also doesn't help that you've agreed with many individuals that I've argued with, especially on posts including character attacks. That sort of history doesn't lend you any help in this matter.

Regardless, comments like that shouldn't have been made, as it could easily be seen as attacking someone, and should be kept to DMs or not posted at all.

I'm not looking for a fight, so I'm ending my statement here. Perhaps be a little more careful with your words in the future.

I'm terribly sorry if you took offense to my post! I'll absolutely make sure I choose my words more carefully next time!

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[Heyyyouu]

HAHAH can be going through her Instagram deleting comments that don’t praise her.... she also blocked me because of my comment about how she has plastered Landon all over YouTube and made money off his death know that he didn’t want to be on YouTube anymore.

[Heyyyouu]

I'm not an expert, but I believe everything Mariah and Parker did was legal. Everything they asserted was backed up with evidence. Even recording the phonecall without Cam's knowledge was legal because texas is a one party consent state.

I can't speak on the Graham video because I didn't see it, but I don't see much point in Cam taking legal action against him when he's already taken down the video and his baby mama has confirmed that he is broke.

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For people like Cam, it's not about gaining something, it's about sending a message. The message being that you don't get to make her look bad, not without consequences. This isn't about damages or defamation, it's about her EGO. That's what's fueling this, her need to feel like she's right and in control, to remove all of the potentially damaging information about her that might be floating around, true or otherwise.

Yes completely agree with this. She doesn’t want to look bad. Even when it came to Landons suicide the story she told made her self look good and like the victim.

[Brambleramble]

Sorry I’m so late to the party
But I do really wonder about a tiktok she made showing herself disassociating near a bathroom saying she’s triggered by it given that Landon said he was taking a bath when he was really taking his life.
From everything here, it doesn’t sound like that happened on that evening at alllll


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That’s actually a really good point, would she go that far to cover up her lie of him taking a bath? Idk

Also I know someone else mentioned this but she unfollowed soo many of the teen moms and now pretty much only follows katie and Sophie, which to me is so strange as I didn’t think any of the moms spoke to Sophie anymore from what I can tell from Instagram, cam hasn’t interacted with Katie on insta since the whole graham scandal but still follows her but both cam and Katie unfollowed kaylie which is confusing as I thought Katie and kaylie were super close, part of me thinks cam told Katie who to unfollow and Katie did so in hope of them staying friends

[glitterthemermaid]

I find it interesting that her most recent video only has 85k views where usually her videos get between 250k and 500k views. Are people not interested in the podcast or do viewers believe the gossip? I guess we'll see with her next video if there's a pattern

[littlerocketman]

The only reason I can see her getting a lawyer involved is that she's trying to get her lies straight.

Getting a lawyer involved is the best thing for her to do especially when lies are being spread about her. Her character is being destroyed and that is defamation which is a crime. I have experience with defamation cases and the accused party got lawyers involved so they could clear their name legally. Lawyering up in this situation does not make her look guilty and I think it’s a really wise and mature decision rather than making drama out of it!

I am 99% sure she will release a video when she gets the green light from her lawyer. There was just too much information spilled out during these last few weeks, and her following will demand answers.
While I am on the topic, I highly doubt she is hiding things from us with the purpose of 'lying' to us, or to make herself look good, but because I feel like she genuinely doesn't want to admit to herself that things were actually bad. When my abusive ex and I broke up, I would always sugarcoat all of the horrible things that happened because I simply refused to accept that I was actually a victim of his constant mistreatment, manipulation, and gaslighting. To me, he was perfect, and his behavior didn't match the image that I had of him in my mind. That is why I lied--I lied to myself and I lied to others. I refused to accept reality. It took years and lots of therapy for me to finally have been able to admit to myself that he was a piece of scum that has no ability to love or care about others.
We will never know the situation with Cam and Landon but if she was really playing victim in the situation, she would have told us about the abuse a LONG time ago and used it to gain profit and clout (just like Sierra Watts is doing right now). I was honestly shocked to discover that Landon was hooked on drugs the whole time she was pregnant. When she posted the TikTok of Landon in the hospital bed and responded to a comment that he had alcohol poisoning (she was about to give birth at that point), I felt sick to my stomach. Someone with a victim mentality would've exposed and exploited the situation and used it as a sob story for attention, but the fact that she managed to keep things under wraps this whole time really shows Cam's true character. She truly loved Landon. If she didn't she would've exposed all of the private and intimate details of his life way earlier on. I feel like the reason she hung on to YouTube so much (and social media in general) was because for those brief 10-15 minutes she would vlog, everything was perfect just like she wanted things to be. The second the camera was off, things would go back to their normal and bad course. I seriously dislike Camryn's personality and I find her super tacky and annoying, but this girl is seriously traumatized and it will be YEARS before she is normal again. I think Cam doesn't have the best judgement and definitely has issues making and keeping friends, but I really have a hard time believing that she is a notorious sociopath who orchestrated this whole thing. That's just a stretch.

[here4thedrama]

The only reason I can see her getting a lawyer involved is that she's trying to get her lies straight.

Getting a lawyer involved is the best thing for her to do especially when lies are being spread about her. Her character is being destroyed and that is defamation which is a crime. I have experience with defamation cases and the accused party got lawyers involved so they could clear their name legally. Lawyering up in this situation does not make her look guilty and I think it’s a really wise and mature decision rather than making drama out of it!

I am 99% sure she will release a video when she gets the green light from her lawyer. There was just too much information spilled out during these last few weeks, and her following will demand answers.
While I am on the topic, I highly doubt she is hiding things from us with the purpose of 'lying' to us, or to make herself look good, but because I feel like she genuinely doesn't want to admit to herself that things were actually bad. When my abusive ex and I broke up, I would always sugarcoat all of the horrible things that happened because I simply refused to accept that I was actually a victim of his constant mistreatment, manipulation, and gaslighting. To me, he was perfect, and his behavior didn't match the image that I had of him in my mind. That is why I lied--I lied to myself and I lied to others. I refused to accept reality. It took years and lots of therapy for me to finally have been able to admit to myself that he was a piece of scum that has no ability to love or care about others.
We will never know the situation with Cam and Landon but if she was really playing victim in the situation, she would have told us about the abuse a LONG time ago and used it to gain profit and clout (just like Sierra Watts is doing right now). I was honestly shocked to discover that Landon was hooked on drugs the whole time she was pregnant. When she posted the TikTok of Landon in the hospital bed and responded to a comment that he had alcohol poisoning (she was about to give birth at that point), I felt sick to my stomach. Someone with a victim mentality would've exposed and exploited the situation and used it as a sob story for attention, but the fact that she managed to keep things under wraps this whole time really shows Cam's true character. She truly loved Landon. If she didn't she would've exposed all of the private and intimate details of his life way earlier on. I feel like the reason she hung on to YouTube so much (and social media in general) was because for those brief 10-15 minutes she would vlog, everything was perfect just like she wanted things to be. The second the camera was off, things would go back to their normal and bad course. I seriously dislike Camryn's personality and I find her super tacky and annoying, but this girl is seriously traumatized and it will be YEARS before she is normal again. I think Cam doesn't have the best judgement and definitely has issues making and keeping friends, but I really have a hard time believing that she is a notorious sociopath who orchestrated this whole thing. That's just a stretch.

You're overlooking the fact that Camryn's brand was built on her having the perfect teen mom life. She didn't want her followers to know that they were struggling. She wasn't going to go against her own brand because she had been crafting her image for years. The whole point of her channel was to show that she could thrive as a teen mom so of course she wasn't going to let her followers know what was going on behind the scenes. There's things she's not coming forward with not because she doesn't want to admit them to herself but because it will confirm that she's been deceiving her followers/selling everyone a lie.

Also this isn't directed just at you but I don't think "hooked on drugs" is the appropriate way to label Landon. I've seen that phrase used here a few times and I think it's inaccurate and a bit offensive. He was prescribed medication by a doctor. He wasn't out there on the street shooting up, which is what "hooked on drugs" sounds like. It is likely that he was prescribed Adderall and Xanax which shouldn't be used together because one is a stimulant and one is a depressant. They are both highly addictive but again it's not the same as seeking out illegal drugs on the street. In regards to him getting alcohol poisoning, he was a 19 year old father or 2 that probably weighed 120 pounds soaking wet. Adderall can hide the effects of alcohol and can make you drink more than you can handle. One incident of alcohol poisoning as a teenager is pretty normal if you ask me, especially considering that he never got the chance to drink and party in his teen years once Camryn got pregnant.

[Whateverlove]

The only reason I can see her getting a lawyer involved is that she's trying to get her lies straight.

Getting a lawyer involved is the best thing for her to do especially when lies are being spread about her. Her character is being destroyed and that is defamation which is a crime. I have experience with defamation cases and the accused party got lawyers involved so they could clear their name legally. Lawyering up in this situation does not make her look guilty and I think it’s a really wise and mature decision rather than making drama out of it!

I am 99% sure she will release a video when she gets the green light from her lawyer. There was just too much information spilled out during these last few weeks, and her following will demand answers.
While I am on the topic, I highly doubt she is hiding things from us with the purpose of 'lying' to us, or to make herself look good, but because I feel like she genuinely doesn't want to admit to herself that things were actually bad. When my abusive ex and I broke up, I would always sugarcoat all of the horrible things that happened because I simply refused to accept that I was actually a victim of his constant mistreatment, manipulation, and gaslighting. To me, he was perfect, and his behavior didn't match the image that I had of him in my mind. That is why I lied--I lied to myself and I lied to others. I refused to accept reality. It took years and lots of therapy for me to finally have been able to admit to myself that he was a piece of scum that has no ability to love or care about others.
We will never know the situation with Cam and Landon but if she was really playing victim in the situation, she would have told us about the abuse a LONG time ago and used it to gain profit and clout (just like Sierra Watts is doing right now). I was honestly shocked to discover that Landon was hooked on drugs the whole time she was pregnant. When she posted the TikTok of Landon in the hospital bed and responded to a comment that he had alcohol poisoning (she was about to give birth at that point), I felt sick to my stomach. Someone with a victim mentality would've exposed and exploited the situation and used it as a sob story for attention, but the fact that she managed to keep things under wraps this whole time really shows Cam's true character. She truly loved Landon. If she didn't she would've exposed all of the private and intimate details of his life way earlier on. I feel like the reason she hung on to YouTube so much (and social media in general) was because for those brief 10-15 minutes she would vlog, everything was perfect just like she wanted things to be. The second the camera was off, things would go back to their normal and bad course. I seriously dislike Camryn's personality and I find her super tacky and annoying, but this girl is seriously traumatized and it will be YEARS before she is normal again. I think Cam doesn't have the best judgement and definitely has issues making and keeping friends, but I really have a hard time believing that she is a notorious sociopath who orchestrated this whole thing. That's just a stretch.

We know Cam was a bit controlling. She likes to be in control. To me, it's not that hard to think she twisted the story. She's in control of the story she told. She's the only one that knows. She could say and make up anything she wanted. We'll never know the truth. It could've went bad that night and there is no way in hell Cam would tell the world about that. Let alone her own family or in laws. If she's been lying it will come out eventually.

[opangatay]

Sorry I’m so late to the party
But I do really wonder about a tiktok she made showing herself disassociating near a bathroom saying she’s triggered by it given that Landon said he was taking a bath when he was really taking his life.
From everything here, it doesn’t sound like that happened on that evening at alllll


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That’s actually a really good point, would she go that far to cover up her lie of him taking a bath? Idk

Also I know someone else mentioned this but she unfollowed soo many of the teen moms and now pretty much only follows katie and Sophie, which to me is so strange as I didn’t think any of the moms spoke to Sophie anymore from what I can tell from Instagram, cam hasn’t interacted with Katie on insta since the whole graham scandal but still follows her but both cam and Katie unfollowed kaylie which is confusing as I thought Katie and kaylie were super close, part of me thinks cam told Katie who to unfollow and Katie did so in hope of them staying friends

Could you explain the bath part or what you guys are saying? I feel like I’m missing something. I haven’t seen the tiktok but Cam originally said Landon went to go take a bath and then she realized he wasn’t there about half an hour later and that’s when she found him in the garage. Are you saying he never said he went to take a bath? Or what lie is she covering up? I’m not criticizing I’m genuinely confused about the wording of the above posts. Thanks


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[Seller-Of-Souls]

Sorry I’m so late to the party
But I do really wonder about a tiktok she made showing herself disassociating near a bathroom saying she’s triggered by it given that Landon said he was taking a bath when he was really taking his life.
From everything here, it doesn’t sound like that happened on that evening at alllll


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That’s actually a really good point, would she go that far to cover up her lie of him taking a bath? Idk

Also I know someone else mentioned this but she unfollowed soo many of the teen moms and now pretty much only follows katie and Sophie, which to me is so strange as I didn’t think any of the moms spoke to Sophie anymore from what I can tell from Instagram, cam hasn’t interacted with Katie on insta since the whole graham scandal but still follows her but both cam and Katie unfollowed kaylie which is confusing as I thought Katie and kaylie were super close, part of me thinks cam told Katie who to unfollow and Katie did so in hope of them staying friends

Could you explain the bath part or what you guys are saying? I feel like I’m missing something. I haven’t seen the tiktok but Cam originally said Landon went to go take a bath and then she realized he wasn’t there about half an hour later and that’s when she found him in the garage. Are you saying he never said he went to take a bath? Or what lie is she covering up? I’m not criticizing I’m genuinely confused about the wording of the above posts. Thanks


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I think they're saying the incident she says happened didn't happen when she says it did. As in, the night she claims he said those things, nothing happened at all. That's what I'm getting.

[polar_bear]

HAHAH can be going through her Instagram deleting comments that don’t praise her.... she also blocked me because of my comment about how she has plastered Landon all over YouTube and made money off his death know that he didn’t want to be on YouTube anymore.

What did you say exactly and what were others commenting? I am curious haha.
She kept a comment about her weight and of course she replied back in order for her minions to attack that person. Other comments that tell the truth about her character are not ok (in her vision) but comments about her weight are ok because she can't lie about it or hide it.
Anyway, her pictures and caption are disgusting. The curtain bangs make her look even more of an attention seeker (I love curtain bangs, but not on her). She looks like she is 15.
I am happy she lost 1k+ followers. She doesn't deserve to have a platform at all

[Brambleramble]

Sorry I’m so late to the party
But I do really wonder about a tiktok she made showing herself disassociating near a bathroom saying she’s triggered by it given that Landon said he was taking a bath when he was really taking his life.
From everything here, it doesn’t sound like that happened on that evening at alllll


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That’s actually a really good point, would she go that far to cover up her lie of him taking a bath? Idk

Also I know someone else mentioned this but she unfollowed soo many of the teen moms and now pretty much only follows katie and Sophie, which to me is so strange as I didn’t think any of the moms spoke to Sophie anymore from what I can tell from Instagram, cam hasn’t interacted with Katie on insta since the whole graham scandal but still follows her but both cam and Katie unfollowed kaylie which is confusing as I thought Katie and kaylie were super close, part of me thinks cam told Katie who to unfollow and Katie did so in hope of them staying friends

Could you explain the bath part or what you guys are saying? I feel like I’m missing something. I haven’t seen the tiktok but Cam originally said Landon went to go take a bath and then she realized he wasn’t there about half an hour later and that’s when she found him in the garage. Are you saying he never said he went to take a bath? Or what lie is she covering up? I’m not criticizing I’m genuinely confused about the wording of the above posts. Thanks


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Basically when cam told the story of the night Landon died some people speculated he hadn’t been in the bath bc with the layout of the house people thought it was obvious if he had/hadn’t gone to the bath but nothing really else was said as we don’t know the specifics of their house layout, (I personally thought he’d gone to the garage to smoke weed and she didnt want to say that online so adjusted the story a bit but didn’t think too deep about it)
she then put a TikTok of her disassociating when about to go into the bathroom of her current house bc the bathroom triggers her which aligns with her original story, buuut then when that couple who looked after Collette a couple times put a vid up about their experience that night they said you can see the bathroom from multiple angles/rooms so they believed he hadn’t taken a bath at all and that he seemed to have been hanging and smoking in the garage a lot which (not quoting) which obviously goes against what cam has said in her video and TikTok - if he didn’t take a bath then why is it a trigger for her? Surely she wouldn’t be go to such lengths to make her story seem true? I don’t know what I believe happened that night

[blissablake]

That’s actually a really good point, would she go that far to cover up her lie of him taking a bath? Idk

Also I know someone else mentioned this but she unfollowed soo many of the teen moms and now pretty much only follows katie and Sophie, which to me is so strange as I didn’t think any of the moms spoke to Sophie anymore from what I can tell from Instagram, cam hasn’t interacted with Katie on insta since the whole graham scandal but still follows her but both cam and Katie unfollowed kaylie which is confusing as I thought Katie and kaylie were super close, part of me thinks cam told Katie who to unfollow and Katie did so in hope of them staying friends

Could you explain the bath part or what you guys are saying? I feel like I’m missing something. I haven’t seen the tiktok but Cam originally said Landon went to go take a bath and then she realized he wasn’t there about half an hour later and that’s when she found him in the garage. Are you saying he never said he went to take a bath? Or what lie is she covering up? I’m not criticizing I’m genuinely confused about the wording of the above posts. Thanks


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Basically when cam told the story of the night Landon died some people speculated he hadn’t been in the bath bc with the layout of the house people thought it was obvious if he had/hadn’t gone to the bath but nothing really else was said as we don’t know the specifics of their house layout, (I personally thought he’d gone to the garage to smoke weed and she didnt want to say that online so adjusted the story a bit but didn’t think too deep about it)
she then put a TikTok of her disassociating when about to go into the bathroom of her current house bc the bathroom triggers her which aligns with her original story, buuut then when that couple who looked after Collette a couple times put a vid up about their experience that night they said you can see the bathroom from multiple angles/rooms so they believed he hadn’t taken a bath at all and that he seemed to have been hanging and smoking in the garage a lot which (not quoting) which obviously goes against what cam has said in her video and TikTok - if he didn’t take a bath then why is it a trigger for her? Surely she wouldn’t be go to such lengths to make her story seem true? I don’t know what I believe happened that night

In cams video though she said herself it didn’t look like he’d had a bath at all. She said he said he was gonna go take a bath and then half an hour later she went to check on the girls and him and then noticed it looked like no bath had even been ran and so she went to the garage to check on him. And that’s when she found him. She never said he actually took a bath and that he said he was going to. Originally everyone was wondering why she didn’t hear the bath running ect.

Maybe she didn’t expect the bath to be running right away because he was gonna go have a cone in the garage first and then by the time she realised how much of a delay was it’s too late


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