It definitely can be a cut throat sport but not at the level the Riches are competing at. The real cutthroat side comes out on worlds teams (levels 6&7). However, what you explained about the routine is spot on. Gyms tend to keep it hush hush (although often releasing sneak peaks) until their showcase. A lot of big gyms with competitive worlds teams (small gyms have worlds teams too but they aren’t able to keep up with the “famous” big gyms) have their showcases shown on Varsity TV or something of the like so everyone knows each other’s routine before their first competition. Sometimes they’ll hide it until the first comp but it’s impossible to keep it a secret after competing for the first time. Yes, they’ll change their routines based on others but not in the way they explained. It’s more so seeing one of competitors having higher difficulty so they’ll try and raise their difficulty too but not copying a routine. They pay big money to have separate choreographers to come in for their elite section (stunting), tumbling, and the dance so they wouldn’t throw all that money away to copy another team. For big worlds teams, their routine is different at worlds than it was at showcase but that’s because they increase difficulty as the cheerleaders learn and develop new skills throughout the season. It makes sense because they should be learning and improving so it makes sense to see that reflected in their routine as the season goes on. I hope that answers most of your questions! If you have more, I can do my best at answeringGlass Half Full wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:06 amI know you’re not a cheerleader but you are a fan: is cheerleading really so cut throat like Kendal says it is? I mean, why is it any different to say, gymnastics or swimming. Gymnasts don’t look at other gymnasts and then go change their routines to become more competitive. A gymnast usually performs what she is capable of performing. She (or he) can’t just throw in a new and more difficult skill or combination. This needs to be learned and practiced and only when the skill is ‘competition ready’ does it get put into a routine. How can whole cheer teams mix things up from one week to the next based on how competitive they need to be? Is it an ego thing that makes a coach want to keep a routine a secret? Does a coach actually believe that his/her cheer team is soooo good that competitors want to steal ideas? Or is this actually the case?AlohaPineapple wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:20 pm
This is spot on Swiss! Good thought! I completely forgot about the whole varsity thing. Last season, there was a big controversy because there’s this teenage cheerleader who goes to a lot of competitions and showcases to film routines and puts them on YouTube. None of the teams cared, in fact, most liked it because they got to have a good quality video of their performance; he took great quality videos! Varsity tried to have all of his videos taken down through legal action since they “own” the performances but he somehow ended up winning and still films and posts the routines. It does say in FC’s rule handbook… I suspect this is for two reasons: 1) Flip “owns” the performances done at their gym and 2) Varsity “owns” the performances done at their competitions (which is a lot of them), and, like you mentioned, this rule was put in place to force people to pay for Varsity TV if they want to watch. I’m sure that FC has the same rules (point 1 above) out of an abundance of caution so they can’t be sued or blacklisted by varsity since they control everything.
Part of what makes this rule about not posting so odd is the fact that the big famous worlds teams start posting snippets of their routine from the start of the season and, when they do their showcase, everyone sees it because it ends up on YouTube. There is absolutely no way for a gym to keep the routine “a secret” as the Riches believe.
I don’t know that it’s possible but I’d love to see Kap or Brin make it onto a worlds team, even if not a high caliber winning one. I suspect Kendal would be jealous in a way that they made it but EV didn’t. EV doesn’t have enough time left to earn her level 6 skills but Brin and Kap, especially Kap, have the time so, if they really put in the hardwork, they may make it there someday. I know they aren’t the best tumblers from the critiques you have given but they do seem to be learning new skills faster at FC than anywhere else. It would be interesting to see what happens if the younger sisters surpass EV, leaving her behind on her level 3 team.
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@Swiss Mom/Glass Half Full, you’re a gymnastics coach right? I have a question you may be able to answer. I was thinking about Brin’s pars fracture in her back. It seemed to have happened not too long after she started doing the intense stretch classes. Is it possible that pushing her stretching too hard could’ve caused a fracture like that? Watching them do their stretching at home makes me cringe big time; I did martial arts and one that flexibility was very important and I was always taught to warm up your body really well before doing any stretching. The girls never seem to warm up at all. We would do some stretches at the beginning of our classes but we’d do the intense stretching after doing an hour of class so we were super warmed up. Maybe my experience was different but they always explained that cold muscles are like a frozen rubber elastic that snap easily but warm muscles was like a normal rubber band, more stretchable and much less likely to cause muscle tear or injury.
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Well, she couldn’t be prouder ...boasting all over IG.
Those girls (all of them) practiced hard and (as a team) should be proud! I get that. So, someone tell me why I would be happier if Kendal was miserable? Probably because I just don't like her, I guess. I'll try to bury my disdain on this one & be happy for them (NOT KENDAL) lol.
Those girls (all of them) practiced hard and (as a team) should be proud! I get that. So, someone tell me why I would be happier if Kendal was miserable? Probably because I just don't like her, I guess. I'll try to bury my disdain on this one & be happy for them (NOT KENDAL) lol.
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Totally get you on this one Xulie!! Happy for the kids though for sure do you know if EV’s team won? I’ve seen a bunch of posts of Brin’s team with their medals and banner and stuff and Kendal even uploaded the photo of Brin with her medal to instagram. Does that mean queen EV didn’t end up winning? If this is the case, I’m sure that burns Kendal’s butt that all her kids won except her favorite. This will make for an interesting season if K & B’s teams keep winning and EV’s doesn’t. I’d feel bad for EV but Kendal’s reaction would be interesting to watch lol. Regardless, all the girls seem to have come so far since joining FC. That gym may not have the best reputation but the girls have improved a lot since then! Medal or not, the girls (not Kendal who likes to believe she is part of the team so she can vicariously live through them) have a lot to be proud of with their performance and improvements!Xulie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:20 pm Well, she couldn’t be prouder ...boasting all over IG.
Those girls (all of them) practiced hard and (as a team) should be proud! I get that. So, someone tell me why I would be happier if Kendal was miserable? Probably because I just don't like her, I guess. I'll try to bury my disdain on this one & be happy for them (NOT KENDAL) lol.
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Good morning: sorry, just to avoid the confusion Swiss/Glass is the same person. I just happen to have two different profiles…one on my phone and one on iPad…..from the time when ytmd was down and I got a new phone and then had to set up a new profile.AlohaPineapple wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:48 am @Swiss Mom/Glass Half Full, you’re a gymnastics coach right? I have a question you may be able to answer. I was thinking about Brin’s pars fracture in her back. It seemed to have happened not too long after she started doing the intense stretch classes. Is it possible that pushing her stretching too hard could’ve caused a fracture like that? Watching them do their stretching at home makes me cringe big time; I did martial arts and one that flexibility was very important and I was always taught to warm up your body really well before doing any stretching. The girls never seem to warm up at all. We would do some stretches at the beginning of our classes but we’d do the intense stretching after doing an hour of class so we were super warmed up. Maybe my experience was different but they always explained that cold muscles are like a frozen rubber elastic that snap easily but warm muscles was like a normal rubber band, more stretchable and much less likely to cause muscle tear or injury.
The brutal stretching at Fire could well have caused Brinley’s injury. Not necessarily the lack of warm up because that would typically cause a soft tissue Injury rather than bone break but the way she was being tortured could definitely have caused a break.
Here are the competition results from the weekend. Notice how we heard nothing about Evie’s team coming second AKA last place (only two teams in the competition) because all Kendal cares about is winning
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I’ve finished reading through the old threads and you had posted way back about being Glass Half Full and Swiss Miss (*sorry for putting “mom” instead) but I wasn’t sure you were using both so I @‘d both of youGlass Half Full wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:20 amGood morning: sorry, just to avoid the confusion Swiss/Glass is the same person. I just happen to have two different profiles…one on my phone and one on iPad…..from the time when ytmd was down and I got a new phone and then had to set up a new profile.AlohaPineapple wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:48 am @Swiss Mom/Glass Half Full, you’re a gymnastics coach right? I have a question you may be able to answer. I was thinking about Brin’s pars fracture in her back. It seemed to have happened not too long after she started doing the intense stretch classes. Is it possible that pushing her stretching too hard could’ve caused a fracture like that? Watching them do their stretching at home makes me cringe big time; I did martial arts and one that flexibility was very important and I was always taught to warm up your body really well before doing any stretching. The girls never seem to warm up at all. We would do some stretches at the beginning of our classes but we’d do the intense stretching after doing an hour of class so we were super warmed up. Maybe my experience was different but they always explained that cold muscles are like a frozen rubber elastic that snap easily but warm muscles was like a normal rubber band, more stretchable and much less likely to cause muscle tear or injury.
The brutal stretching at Fire could well have caused Brinley’s injury. Not necessarily the lack of warm up because that would typically cause a soft tissue Injury rather than bone break but the way she was being tortured could definitely have caused a break.
Here are the competition results from the weekend. Notice how we heard nothing about Evie’s team coming second AKA last place (only two teams in the competition) because all Kendal cares about is winning
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Re: injury, makes a lot of sense! The way they were doing those back stretches looked brutal. It’s one thing to push yourself but a whole other to be in agonizing pain crying while being stretched. I’ve wondered about this for awhile so thanks for filling me in! I had an injury from lack of warm up, I tore a muscle in my quad (instructor who shouldn’t have been instructing but in martial arts you don’t question “authority” even when you’re more qualified, he was the teacher), & that ended my career right as I was about to test for my 3rd degree black belt. Hence why warming up before stretching is always a hill I’m willing to die on lol.
Thanks for the results!! Do you happen to have them for Kap’s Youth L1 team as well? This shows so clearly why she didn’t mention EV’s team on her Instagram. How much do it want to bet she leave EV out of the vlog followed by another vlog where EV is sad and moping around but why “can’t tell us right now” OR they bash the other team they competed against? There’s a pattern. Ken only wants winners, especially when she’s paying as much as she is to fund their cheerleading. She’s probably even more angry that not only did EV’s team lost, they lost in a division with one other team. I think both Ken and EV have said “the second to win is the the first to lose” which I’m sure they’re quoting from Dance Moms but they seem to believe it when they say it regardless. Brin competed against a big gym, Brandon Allstars, and beat them; kudos to her! I would love to know how they’re feeling about the golden child not being so golden at the moment. Happy for Brin & Kap’s wins!
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I agree with everyone - happy for the girls. However, Kendall is a smug bitch (sorry for being vulgar) who seeks acceptance and validation at every turn and the only reason she’s happy is so she can brag and act like she’s better than all the other cheer moms whose kids didn’t win. Like we’ve always said, Kenny cares about nobody but herself and her desires. She wants trophies because she has nothing else going on and she has to justify spending all their money on cheer
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No Ken, does not need a special needs cat. They already have a special needs son that deserves more care, attention, education, and therapy than he appears to get. Start with your own kid first.
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Where’s this from? Did I miss it in the cheer video? Must have been when I nodded off from boredom. Where were the boys in this video? Were they left at home with granny?AlohaPineapple wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:46 am
No Ken, does not need a special needs cat. They already have a special needs son that deserves more care, attention, education, and therapy than he appears to get. Start with your own kid first.
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Should’ve clarified that it’s an older video lol sorry about that! It just struck me funny is all. It’s from “Brinley spends all her birthday money!” From 10 months ago. It’s right at the start of the video. I’ll link it in case anyone is curious to see the clipGlass Half Full wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:06 pmWhere’s this from? Did I miss it in the cheer video? Must have been when I nodded off from boredom. Where were the boys in this video? Were they left at home with granny?AlohaPineapple wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:46 am
No Ken, does not need a special needs cat. They already have a special needs son that deserves more care, attention, education, and therapy than he appears to get. Start with your own kid first.
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Thank You Pelican!disgruntled_pelican wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:42 am Kendall is a smug bitch (sorry for being vulgar) who seeks acceptance and validation at every turn and the only reason she’s happy is so she can brag and act like she’s better than all the other cheer moms whose kids didn’t win. Like we’ve always said, Kenny cares about nobody but herself and her desires. She wants trophies because she has nothing else going on and she has to justify spending all their money on cheer
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LOL this was awesome. It’s always about Ken. Don’t forget her standing in the crowd pointing and yelling at the girls, coaching them as if they could actually see and hear her haha. There was a clip where she asked Brin (I think) if she could see her in the audience and Brin said “yes right at the beginning but I lost sight of you”. I don’t remember what Ken replied but she seemed angry or disappointed and Brin like apologized if I remember correctly. What happened to “it’s not about me today” Ken?Xulie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:10 amThank You Pelican!disgruntled_pelican wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:42 am Kendall is a smug bitch (sorry for being vulgar) who seeks acceptance and validation at every turn and the only reason she’s happy is so she can brag and act like she’s better than all the other cheer moms whose kids didn’t win. Like we’ve always said, Kenny cares about nobody but herself and her desires. She wants trophies because she has nothing else going on and she has to justify spending all their money on cheer
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Just wanted to screenshot Kendal's comment & put a face to the person she bashed.
Ashlyn Beard (who's been on worlds teams and D1 College teams) has always showed her routines. She was genuinely asking why Kendal doesn't. She even said, "not being rude, just truly curious". Kendal got so mad!! Madalyn Hester chimed in and called out Kendal's immaturity. ...priceless.
I think they know their mother is a nutcase. By the looks (and the hug) Evie gives Kendal at the end of my video, I think they're just tired of the crazy & I think Evie's glad to have Cameron to vent to; I hope the other girls have outlets now too (friends, coaches).
Ashlyn Beard (who's been on worlds teams and D1 College teams) has always showed her routines. She was genuinely asking why Kendal doesn't. She even said, "not being rude, just truly curious". Kendal got so mad!! Madalyn Hester chimed in and called out Kendal's immaturity. ...priceless.
I think they know their mother is a nutcase. By the looks (and the hug) Evie gives Kendal at the end of my video, I think they're just tired of the crazy & I think Evie's glad to have Cameron to vent to; I hope the other girls have outlets now too (friends, coaches).
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Very telling how Evies smile goes away right as the camera gets put down. That was a very awkward hug for self proclaimed "best friends". I agree with Xulie, Evie knows Kendal is crazy but she still takes after Kendal in many ways personality wise. When the phone went down Evies smile completely disappeared, shes clearly not as happy as she portrays on social media. I know ive been hard on Evie in the past but i think shes suffering. I want to know who the real Evie is, is she really rude & arrogant or was that just for validation from Kendal? I couldn't imagine being in that family they probably all feed off each other in a negative way.Xulie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:10 amThank You Pelican!disgruntled_pelican wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:42 am Kendall is a smug bitch (sorry for being vulgar) who seeks acceptance and validation at every turn and the only reason she’s happy is so she can brag and act like she’s better than all the other cheer moms whose kids didn’t win. Like we’ve always said, Kenny cares about nobody but herself and her desires. She wants trophies because she has nothing else going on and she has to justify spending all their money on cheer
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Just so I understand correctly…..Was this comment directed to Kendal? Did Ashlyn comment on Kendal’s IG or YT?Xulie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:13 am Just wanted to screenshot Kendal's comment & put a face to the person she bashed.
Ashlyn Beard (who's been on worlds teams and D1 College teams) has always showed her routines. She was genuinely asking why Kendal doesn't. She even said, "not being rude, just truly curious". Kendal got so mad!! Madalyn Hester chimed in and called out Kendal's immaturity. ...priceless.
I think they know their mother is a nutcase. By the looks (and the hug) Evie gives Kendal at the end of my video, I think they're just tired of the crazy & I think Evie's glad to have Cameron to vent to; I hope the other girls have outlets now too (friends, coaches).
If so, wow! When was this? I cannot believe she bashed another cheer leader. Kendal is a nut job!
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A truly happy person maintains the smile. You are so right. That smile is for show. Those poor girls are living kendal’s dream. I would LOVE for any of this current batch of YT kids on family vlogs to have the guts to come forward and speak their mind. Their childhood/teen life is so orchestrateddmfthe2 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:27 pmVery telling how Evies smile goes away right as the camera gets put down. That was a very awkward hug for self proclaimed "best friends". I agree with Xulie, Evie knows Kendal is crazy but she still takes after Kendal in many ways personality wise. When the phone went down Evies smile completely disappeared, shes clearly not as happy as she portrays on social media. I know ive been hard on Evie in the past but i think shes suffering. I want to know who the real Evie is, is she really rude & arrogant or was that just for validation from Kendal? I couldn't imagine being in that family they probably all feed off each other in a negative way.
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Yes, comment was directed to Kendal on YT, but surprise surprise, as soon as my video went up they were deleted. Thing is, she can't delete screenshots, lol.Glass Half Full wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:36 pm Just so I understand correctly…..Was this comment directed to Kendal? Did Ashlyn comment on Kendal’s IG or YT?
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Wow Kendal is brazen! Going mow to watch the latest video. She has already alluded to the fact that she disagrees with the judging in her IG stories.Xulie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:43 pmYes, comment was directed to Kendal on YT, but surprise surprise, as soon as my video went up they were deleted. Thing is, she can't delete screenshots, lol.Glass Half Full wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:36 pm Just so I understand correctly…..Was this comment directed to Kendal? Did Ashlyn comment on Kendal’s IG or YT?
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Ok so watched the second part of the cheer video. How is a team national champion when only three Florida teams competed? What about all the other D1 J2 teams in the country?
Why is Daniel whooping and screaming when he’s clearly not watching the performance? He’s swinging the camera between coach and wife. He’s never focused on anything but the audience so how can he possibly know what’s going on on the competition floor?
Note to Kendal: you’re not a cheerleader. Stop being a wannabe
Why is Daniel whooping and screaming when he’s clearly not watching the performance? He’s swinging the camera between coach and wife. He’s never focused on anything but the audience so how can he possibly know what’s going on on the competition floor?
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I think EV really is a nasty person. In the vlog today they were talking about how EV has never been happy after a competition and how she used to just leave the as soon as they walked off the floor and not talk to anyone. Sounds like she’s very bitter and has poor sportsmanship. Can you imagine a teammate stomping away every time something doesn’t go their way? EV is a horrible team player and by the sounds of it Kenny and Daniel did nothing to correct her behavior.
Kendal who so badly wants to be part of the cheer world because her entire identity is being a “cheer mom” sure isn’t doing herself any favors by going off on cheerleaders in the comments. The cheer world is small and I’m sure people will stay as far away from her and her family as possible.
Kendal who so badly wants to be part of the cheer world because her entire identity is being a “cheer mom” sure isn’t doing herself any favors by going off on cheerleaders in the comments. The cheer world is small and I’m sure people will stay as far away from her and her family as possible.