Emma & Ellie | Part Two

[athyker]

The poop in the toilet on Emma’s birthday was disgusting and yet Heather thought it was funny.

Gross. Why post that here then?

[athyker]

I sure hope Emma is getting every penny of that $55 for the adorable hoodies she's selling and that her greedy mom and stepdad aren't getting a cut!!!!!

[ThisIsMeCeej]

I sure hope Emma is getting every penny of that $55 for the adorable hoodies she's selling and that her greedy mom and stepdad aren't getting a cut!!!!!

Same.. it should all go to her, it was her idea and through her people and not Heather's right?

Did you see the latest video.. "letting the waiter pick our meals" Emma was so embarrassed and didn't wanna do it, but, of course.. Heather HAD to do it anyway, and film Emma the most, making her feel more uncomfortable.. instead of herself who wanted to do it.

[athyker]

I sure hope Emma is getting every penny of that $55 for the adorable hoodies she's selling and that her greedy mom and stepdad aren't getting a cut!!!!!

Same.. it should all go to her, it was her idea and through her people and not Heather's right?

Did you see the latest video.. "letting the waiter pick our meals" Emma was so embarrassed and didn't wanna do it, but, of course.. Heather HAD to do it anyway, and film Emma the most, making her feel more uncomfortable.. instead of herself who wanted to do it.

How is that not a form of abuse? Emma doesn't want to do it but Heather did it anyways of course because she loves to embarrass Emma and gets views because of it.

Yes! I wonder if she has any idea how much her youtube channel brings in. I feel like we talk about this all the time but I need her to see her own channels income!!! LOL

I was happy to hear in Emma's video that she may move out. I can't remember her exact words but she eludes to it.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Same.. it should all go to her, it was her idea and through her people and not Heather's right?

Did you see the latest video.. "letting the waiter pick our meals" Emma was so embarrassed and didn't wanna do it, but, of course.. Heather HAD to do it anyway, and film Emma the most, making her feel more uncomfortable.. instead of herself who wanted to do it.

How is that not a form of abuse? Emma doesn't want to do it but Heather did it anyways of course because she loves to embarrass Emma and gets views because of it.

Yes! I wonder if she has any idea how much her youtube channel brings in. I feel like we talk about this all the time but I need her to see her own channels income!!! LOL

I was happy to hear in Emma's video that she may move out. I can't remember her exact words but she eludes to it.

They are abusive.. of Ellie too, forcing her to vlog as well, but not in the same ways as Emma, considering Ellie gets special treatments.

Hopefully someone, maybe Kacy, has been talking to her about how much she really makes? Or one of her other new YT/social media friends.

Oh? I missed that! Which video did she say that in, I will rewatch it.

[athyker]

How is that not a form of abuse? Emma doesn't want to do it but Heather did it anyways of course because she loves to embarrass Emma and gets views because of it.

Yes! I wonder if she has any idea how much her youtube channel brings in. I feel like we talk about this all the time but I need her to see her own channels income!!! LOL

I was happy to hear in Emma's video that she may move out. I can't remember her exact words but she eludes to it.

They are abusive.. of Ellie too, forcing her to vlog as well, but not in the same ways as Emma, considering Ellie gets special treatments.

Hopefully someone, maybe Kacy, has been talking to her about how much she really makes? Or one of her other new YT/social media friends.

Oh? I missed that! Which video did she say that in, I will rewatch it.

You're right about the abuse to Ellie too. Even though I can't stand that child. She clearly never wants to record.

I think it was her last Q&A video..she kind of mentions it. I think it may take one of her friends wanting a roommate for her to really do it.

[ThisIsMeCeej]

Ugh did anyone see the last two videos? In the Q&A there were a few inappropriate questions, that Heather shouldn't have allowed to go through.. but, even when she was present, she has asked her own daughters. I don't blame Ellie at all for saying "I am only 14" and not wanting to answer the question about if she's had sex.. why was it even asked in the first place?

But, then you have today's video.. and Emma and Ellie are buying self care items at Target. It was getting on my last nerve, every single time that Ellie took something off a shelf, and put it back in the wrong spot! It takes literally 1 second, to put it back where it belongs.. and she was being such a pain in the butt to employees, by doing that.. not to mention other shoppers. She is such a spoiled child, that she can't be bothered to put something back where she got it, one shelf up?? SMH.

[athyker]

It's been a minute. Heather got her lips done? LOL

I swear if Emma's Coachella vlog goes on the family channel I will lose my mind. It should be on her channel and her channel alone and Heather and the fam should not profit off of it at all.

I am soooo happy she went and is experiencing life. I hope she ends up moving out with her friend she went on the trip or one of her other friends. I think I'll throw a party the day she moves out.

[athyker]

Heather, people are lying to you in those comments! Or else they're teens. Bunch of hypocrites. It bothers you because deep down you know it's true!!

[athyker]

They're moving again and selling the boat and golf cart, the new house won't have a pool. She's trying to paint a pretty picture, but I think in all reality they couldn't afford this house. I believe their views aren't what they were. They're building a much smaller house. I think without Emmas income from her channel their channel will flop. They're setting themselves up for when they're empty nesters.

OMG EMMA IS MOVING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doing a happy dance! However, why do I feel like she'll end up moving back home? lol She'll move with them and then move out.

There is a reason they move so much that they're not disclosing. I don't believe they're these "flippers" they're trying to say they are.

Nobody wants to hang out at your house because of the type of people you and Mark are, Heather. You are no fun to be around!

[athyker]

Oh she's selling her car and buying a Honda for Ellie...lol

[athyker]

I noticed they've been selling Ellies shoes. I honestly think they bit off more than they can chew with this house. I also think that Heather and Mark around the two-year mark of living anywhere get bored. With Emma moving out, and Ellie working and learning to drive their channel is coming to it's end. Views will drop super low once Emma leaves. Nobody wants to watch Heather, Mark, or Ellie.

[bl00di3f4c3]

I am new to this thread and haven't read all of it so please correct me if i'm stating things that have already been mentioned.About a week ago I was scrolling through youtube and on my feed was one of emmas videos i clicked it because I liked the thumbnail and it was similar to other youtubers i liked so i figured I would like her videos and i did she seems very sweet and her personality seems authentic fast forward I watched a few more of her videos and eventually Emma and ellies channel popped up and I clicked on it because I saw emma but I did notice that Ellie always seems very bored and like she doesnt like making the videos? almost an attitude kind of while emma seems to enjoy it again I don't know if this has already been talked about so I dont know if this is just her personality or she is being forced to record? also I have seen some things about heather I havent watched many videos with her in it but I have seen one on Emmas channel titled asking my mom questions ur too afraid to ask and I was just getting kind of an odd vibe from heather.

[athyker]

I am new to this thread and haven't read all of it so please correct me if i'm stating things that have already been mentioned.About a week ago I was scrolling through youtube and on my feed was one of emmas videos i clicked it because I liked the thumbnail and it was similar to other youtubers i liked so i figured I would like her videos and i did she seems very sweet and her personality seems authentic fast forward I watched a few more of her videos and eventually Emma and ellies channel popped up and I clicked on it because I saw emma but I did notice that Ellie always seems very bored and like she doesnt like making the videos? almost an attitude kind of while emma seems to enjoy it again I don't know if this has already been talked about so I dont know if this is just her personality or she is being forced to record? also I have seen some things about heather I havent watched many videos with her in it but I have seen one on Emmas channel titled asking my mom questions ur too afraid to ask and I was just getting kind of an odd vibe from heather.

Yep, that's Ellie. Attitude, mean, mumbles. Heather chalks it up to her age. I chalk it up to they've never told her no so rules doesn't apply and she doesn't care what anyone tells her. She does and says what she wants. Heather is afraid to punish her. Mark babies her. Neither Mark nor Heather would ever allow Emma to behave that way. Emma is absolutely smart, pretty, positive, kind which is why their channel is as big as it is. If it were just Mark, Heather, and Ellie they'd have no views.

Heather is negative, mean, jealous of Emma, and a control freak who has used Emma to make money off of. Mark is just along for the ride. They all have the life they do because of Emma.

All of this is my opinion, of course. lol

[ThisIsMeCeej]

I am new to this thread and haven't read all of it so please correct me if i'm stating things that have already been mentioned.About a week ago I was scrolling through youtube and on my feed was one of emmas videos i clicked it because I liked the thumbnail and it was similar to other youtubers i liked so i figured I would like her videos and i did she seems very sweet and her personality seems authentic fast forward I watched a few more of her videos and eventually Emma and ellies channel popped up and I clicked on it because I saw emma but I did notice that Ellie always seems very bored and like she doesnt like making the videos? almost an attitude kind of while emma seems to enjoy it again I don't know if this has already been talked about so I dont know if this is just her personality or she is being forced to record? also I have seen some things about heather I havent watched many videos with her in it but I have seen one on Emmas channel titled asking my mom questions ur too afraid to ask and I was just getting kind of an odd vibe from heather.

Yep, that's Ellie. Attitude, mean, mumbles. Heather chalks it up to her age. I chalk it up to they've never told her no so rules doesn't apply and she doesn't care what anyone tells her. She does and says what she wants. Heather is afraid to punish her. Mark babies her. Neither Mark nor Heather would ever allow Emma to behave that way. Emma is absolutely smart, pretty, positive, kind which is why their channel is as big as it is. If it were just Mark, Heather, and Ellie they'd have no views.

Heather is negative, mean, jealous of Emma, and a control freak who has used Emma to make money off of. Mark is just along for the ride. They all have the life they do because of Emma.

All of this is my opinion, of course. lol

I agree with all of this.

I have on tiktok a lot and hearing a lot of reddit stories of siblings who feel like they have been treated badly their whole childhood/life because their parents treated a sibling like gold compared to them.. and it always makes me think of Emma.. and makes me wonder if any of the stories are written by her. I know that Heather does love Emma.. but, the way that she treats her.. it's just wrong. They could do with some serious family therapy.. and Ellie definitely needs some individual therapy.

On a different topic.. I am really curious to find out how Ellie will act when she starts her job.. will she give her boss/co-workers attitude too? Will she roll her eyes constantly at the things they ask her to do? Honestly, I don't think it will go well, if she is her natural self.

[bl00di3f4c3]

Yep, that's Ellie. Attitude, mean, mumbles. Heather chalks it up to her age. I chalk it up to they've never told her no so rules doesn't apply and she doesn't care what anyone tells her. She does and says what she wants. Heather is afraid to punish her. Mark babies her. Neither Mark nor Heather would ever allow Emma to behave that way. Emma is absolutely smart, pretty, positive, kind which is why their channel is as big as it is. If it were just Mark, Heather, and Ellie they'd have no views.

Heather is negative, mean, jealous of Emma, and a control freak who has used Emma to make money off of. Mark is just along for the ride. They all have the life they do because of Emma.

All of this is my opinion, of course. lol

I agree with all of this.

I have on tiktok a lot and hearing a lot of reddit stories of siblings who feel like they have been treated badly their whole childhood/life because their parents treated a sibling like gold compared to them.. and it always makes me think of Emma.. and makes me wonder if any of the stories are written by her. I know that Heather does love Emma.. but, the way that she treats her.. it's just wrong. They could do with some serious family therapy.. and Ellie definitely needs some individual therapy.

On a different topic.. I am really curious to find out how Ellie will act when she starts her job.. will she give her boss/co-workers attitude too? Will she roll her eyes constantly at the things they ask her to do? Honestly, I don't think it will go well, if she is her natural self.

I agree with this 100% I could definitely see her giving attitude when she is asked to do certain things

[athyker]

Yep, that's Ellie. Attitude, mean, mumbles. Heather chalks it up to her age. I chalk it up to they've never told her no so rules doesn't apply and she doesn't care what anyone tells her. She does and says what she wants. Heather is afraid to punish her. Mark babies her. Neither Mark nor Heather would ever allow Emma to behave that way. Emma is absolutely smart, pretty, positive, kind which is why their channel is as big as it is. If it were just Mark, Heather, and Ellie they'd have no views.

Heather is negative, mean, jealous of Emma, and a control freak who has used Emma to make money off of. Mark is just along for the ride. They all have the life they do because of Emma.

All of this is my opinion, of course. lol

I agree with all of this.

I have on tiktok a lot and hearing a lot of reddit stories of siblings who feel like they have been treated badly their whole childhood/life because their parents treated a sibling like gold compared to them.. and it always makes me think of Emma.. and makes me wonder if any of the stories are written by her. I know that Heather does love Emma.. but, the way that she treats her.. it's just wrong. They could do with some serious family therapy.. and Ellie definitely needs some individual therapy.

On a different topic.. I am really curious to find out how Ellie will act when she starts her job.. will she give her boss/co-workers attitude too? Will she roll her eyes constantly at the things they ask her to do? Honestly, I don't think it will go well, if she is her natural self.

My guess is Ellie won't last long. Well, unless she's working with her friends. Everyone takes it from her. I don't know why. lol I would absolutely, positively, never in my life take it.

You are so right about Emma. Even sometimes she posts things on Instagram or tik tok and I think to myself man that's your mom! She seems really happy with her boyfriend. I hope she keeps Heather from messing it up and keeps it to herself.

[bl00di3f4c3]

I just looked at their new video their SELLING Ellies shoes???!??

[athyker]

Ellie got a job and this is what Heather has to say about it....

"Today is Ellie's First Day of work! Hopefully she likes it and will do great but we shall see."

How long do we think Ellie will last? "but we shall see"

[athyker]

Also, they must not be as financially off as they lead they have been...

Heather is selling her car (again) and Mark is considering downsizing his truck to a car. Then they'll lease Ellie a car or buy used one.

Odd behavior IMO