The ShayTards and Butler clan in general are the worst example of car seat safety in general. Especially when they were in CA, all three (maybe 4) youngest kids should have been in at very least boosters ALL THE TIME. But they weren't. In Shay's truck, Emmi and even Brock once in a while were not only out of carseats but also in the front seat with a shoulder strap. Sorry for the mini rant but their lack of education/concern when it comes to car seat safety has always been a hot button issue for me.briguez wrote:While I agree she feeds her children garbage, she had been very pro-breastfeeding before she was even YouTube famous, and probably before she knew what "crunchy" was. As for the circumcision thing, the rate of circumcision is pretty low here in California, and Gabe wasn't circumcised, so it was probably what she was used to (she was with Gabe a lot longer than Drake). She made very informative videos on breastfeeding, circumcision, and car seat safety, and actually seems passionate about those topics whether she was YT famous or not.80085 wrote:sorry but no she doesntbriguez wrote:but hey, at least she tries to research things and make better choices when it comes to babies.
the only reason she breast feeds is because she's able to, it's free, helps with weight loss, keeps her pathetic breasts from looking like deflated balloons and it's ~super~ crunchy.
she didn't cut her boys because it's free and she knew she'd get praise for being ~so crunchy~. had circ been "in", she would've done it and followed the hype.
it has to benefit her and suit her lazy parenting for her to do it
cloth diapering is generally better for babies but she's never gonna do that because it's more work and more laundry for her.
if she cared purely about what's best for her kids, she wouldn't feed her kids processed crap, give her 3yo diet coke, etc.
she only does what's in, is easy for her and will get her ass pats from her 13yo stans.
jess is #1 priority for jess. she comes first in her own life and always will.
She could be definitely be a better mother and try harder by feeding them well-balanced meals and set a better example for them by finishing college, getting a job, moving out, and not jumping from guy to guy (I never said she was a great mom). But even if she did do something like talk about car seat safety just for attention, at least it is benefiting her kids. In the Shaytard's video the baby's chest clip was on his belly button!
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I agree with the fact she is no where close to a perfect mom and I find it pretty gross how much her fans defend her. How can they not see almost everything in her life is messed up? No one can even slightly criticize her or give her advice without her minions attacking them. I feel bad for people that see her as a good role model, especially because most of her fans are under 15 years old.80085 wrote:she isn't the worst mum but she is /nowhere/ near the mother these minions make her out to be.
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Are you guys serious? She ONLY breastfeeds and didn't "cut" her boys because she's lazy and doesn't wanna spend money? get a clue. Where does she say she stopped breast feeding Lilia because Drake thought it was gross?
The reason why she "regurgitates" information is because they are FACTS. You cannot dispute facts.
I actually found her circumcision video very informative for people who don't already know a lot about it. And the video was talking about ROUTINE infant circumcision. *sometimes* circumcision is necessary for medical reasons and that is not what she was talking about. and sorry but religion is not an excuse to mutilate your child without their consent. Religion ends where the body begins.
And as for the car seats, I agree that she shouldn't go on about how FF is so terrible at that age and then show her kids FF. BUT they are still RF most of the time which I think is fantastic.
The reason why she "regurgitates" information is because they are FACTS. You cannot dispute facts.
I actually found her circumcision video very informative for people who don't already know a lot about it. And the video was talking about ROUTINE infant circumcision. *sometimes* circumcision is necessary for medical reasons and that is not what she was talking about. and sorry but religion is not an excuse to mutilate your child without their consent. Religion ends where the body begins.
And as for the car seats, I agree that she shouldn't go on about how FF is so terrible at that age and then show her kids FF. BUT they are still RF most of the time which I think is fantastic.
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I can't remember when she said it, it was early in their relationship. Or was it Lindsey? I can't remember. But she certainly stopped breastfeeding quite early with Lilia.malal22 wrote:Are you guys serious? She ONLY breastfeeds and didn't "cut" her boys because she's lazy and doesn't wanna spend money? get a clue. Where does she say she stopped breast feeding Lilia because Drake thought it was gross?
The reason why she "regurgitates" information is because they are FACTS. You cannot dispute facts.
Her videos are not FACT, they are one sided opinions and are open to debate. She has quite obviously not researched both sides of the circumcision debate. Let me just correct you on one little aspect of that video. She was talking about circumcision generally not RIC. The reason I know this is because I got into a whole thing with her about it sometimes being medically necessary. I'm not talking about hygiene, I am talking about deformities of the penis that make it physically difficult to pee without releasing that skin. She told me it was NEVER okay to circumcise and that I was a disgusting human being (not that it was even my child). She "thought" there was a cream that could fix anything. Well, the little boy I know that had to be circumcised had tried cortisone cream 6 times and the skin was getting very thin and damaged and the doctor did not want to risk another course. So they agreed on circumcision to give the poor little boy some relief. The problem was not getting better. When I pointed this out to Jessica, she did not accept another point of view, she stubbornly stuck to "Circumcison is NEVER okay" and blocked me. So much for being informed. That is such an immature, petulant reaction.
If you believe in ERF, you believe in full time or not at all. Choosing convenience over what you strongly believe in is the weak and lazy option.
I believe in supervising young children at play, in providing an environment that is safe and child friendly. She obviously doesn't give two hoots about their safety. Kaden ended up in surgery because she wasn't supervising.
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So in the DITL video why was she so worried about covering up her nipple and then in this pic her nip is just hanging out kinda! I'm surprised she didn't put a star on her nipple like she does with the boys bathtub pics.
Also was it in the DITL video where she showed Lilia's bare chest? At her age those should be private areas too. Especially being on YouTube...
Also was it in the DITL video where she showed Lilia's bare chest? At her age those should be private areas too. Especially being on YouTube...
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Can anyone point me to where she tried to say her and Drake bought a house?
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**applauds while reading this post**thegooseiscooked wrote:I disagree. I don't think any of her videos have been informative. She just regurgitates crap she's googled without investigating both sides of the argument, she sticks to what is in YouTube fashion and let's other people make up her mind for her.
She is completely and utterly ignorant on how birth control works.
I might be wrong on this but I believe Lilia was being formula fed before her first birthday. So much for the breastfeeding advocate. The other thing is that not everyone can breastfeed. Sometimes, for whatever reason, it does not work out. She can't accept that and judges any mother who doesn't or can't do it.
Her video on circumcision was judgemental. She could not accept that people might have legitimate reasons for needing to circumsize. She made an absolute fool of herself on the Shaytards video and had to withdraw her comments and apologise. Being against RIC is fine, judging other people for making decisions that might differ from her own is just wrong and arrogant. "When you know better, you do better". Give me a break, if that was true, none of the boys would ever have been born. The twins were accidents which she should have been able to prevent but she failed AGAIN on the same birth control pill. Derrrr. Landen was her vain attempt to tame Drake and make him settle down. Derrrrr.
Her car seat safety is not beyond reproach. Many, many times she has had the chest clip wrong, she only bothers with rear facing in her own vehicle. She's not so fussed when it comes to someone else's car. That attitude confuses me a lot. If she really cared about rear facing like she claims, then it wouldn't be a question of whether she could be bothered turning the seats around. Of course she should bother, the kids' safety is paramount, isn't it? Or is it only convenience she's worried about? She spouts this argument about "better in a cast than a coffin" but then her actions say that it doesn't count in Chris's car....or her mom's car.....
The food.....ugh.....don't get me started on the diet she follows and feeds her kids. They're so stuffed full of white carbs and preservatives that I'd be surprised if they pooped more than once a week.
She still lives in her mother's house. She hasn't finished school. She's never had a proper job. No application. No motivation. No education. No experience. She's a loser.
Anyone who thinks that Jessica is well informed and makes informative videos needs to raise their standards a little. That girl is dumb, white trash.
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Oh yeah, I remember her telling in some video that her periods were crazy irregular. Any chance she weaned Lilia to get back her body to ovulate ? Most women are not very fertile while breastfeeding.80085 wrote:completely agree, goose. she's not that much of a bfing advocate if she switched to formula purely because her dipshit boyfriend was too immature to understand it.
i don't judge people on what they choose to do circ wise because it may be for religious reasons. i only ask that people make informed decisions about it and know exactly what a circumcision is about.
she isn't the worst mum but she is /nowhere/ near the mother these minions make her out to be.
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Well said! I've been meaning to articulate this for a while. The fact that wendy is enjoying every minute with her grandchildren doesn't mean she is facing the reality of her daughter's choices with an entirely positive attitude...so to speak .
briguez wrote:I actually think Mimi is disappointed in Jessica, but just accepted that she will probably only be a baby-maker, so she might as well just enjoy her grandchildren. Re-watch the video of her announcing she was pregnant with the twins (before she knew it was twins), her mom seemed very disappointed and looked like she was trying so hard to hide it. In fact, most people's reaction in that video seemed like they were just pretending to be happy for her. When she told Ben he said he "Wasn't surprised" and she just started cackling! I think I would cry or be hurt if my brother said that about me being pregnant. I do wish Mimi would grow a back bone and tell Jessica that she needs to get her shit together, finish school, and move out. So, I do thinking her mom is disapproving, but I think she is too easy on her. I think she defends her because she is embarrassed because she is the one who raised her.Fairplay wrote:When i first started watching jess and followed her through pregnancy to break ups going on for like 4 years and seeing how her mom condones and permits all that showing no sign of worry, made me feel really weird. I would think maybe if she was 30 then her mom cant really have a say but she isnt. A very positive family but the morals arent really up there
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Well, if that is true, she needs to learn to be much more vocal. I think she is scared to stand up to Jessica, an ounce of disappointment rather than excitement over Jessica's pregnancy with Lilia might have discouraged the "surprise" announcement of the twins.
Wendy says she is thrilled, Jessica takes that as face value and goes with it. Jessica is desperate for approval.
Just goes to,show how much you can fuck up your kids by marrying the wrong person, having affairs and getting divorced.
Don't do it.
Wendy says she is thrilled, Jessica takes that as face value and goes with it. Jessica is desperate for approval.
Just goes to,show how much you can fuck up your kids by marrying the wrong person, having affairs and getting divorced.
Don't do it.
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I don't believe Jess said we bought a house when they moved into the house it was more like we are looking at houses to buy. Then when she moved into the house she never clarified that it was a rental, thus making her minions believe she bought the house.missmsg wrote:Can anyone point me to where she tried to say her and Drake bought a house?
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She didn't say it, she left it unsaid. They were looking at a house, which they missed (at auction?). Then a few weeks later they were moving into the same house.
The minions assumed they had bought it because that was the romantic, rosy glowed version. White picket fence and all that. Anyone with half a toe in realism realises that they rented it. Particularly given they were able to move out at a minute's notice when they broke up.
The minions assumed they had bought it because that was the romantic, rosy glowed version. White picket fence and all that. Anyone with half a toe in realism realises that they rented it. Particularly given they were able to move out at a minute's notice when they broke up.
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Yeah, she made comments to the effect of drake and I got our first home, kinda thing and many people thought shed brought a home, but she never responded when people asked. She had definitely wanted people to think shed brought a home. Then somebody on here looked up the house & found it was a rental for 9 hundred and something per month.
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I dont get why she's so against vaccines. Its great that she gives it but if she was so hard on to her morals she would have made a huge rant about that but i guess she didnt research enough
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Reganding the whole buying a house thing, i don't have the direct quote, but what she said was that her and Drake were approved for their first house. It was the "approved" part that made people think they boght it. i think, although i am not sure she also said something about getting the keys. She def spinned it in a way to make people believe they bought a house. i remember in one of her first house tours (when it was her parent's house and she just had lilia), that she mentions her parents own their house. Weird thing to say. She thinks being a home owner is some great accomplishment. i mean not everyone can own a house and there is no shame in renting. But it is something important to her to mention that her parents OWN their home. She wanted to be seen as someone who could buy a house. Ugh. Her frigging parents give her way too much freedom online. Now look where it's gotten her.
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I don't think she is against them?? I thought she said she has them on a delayed schedule?Fairplay wrote:I dont get why she's so against vaccines. Its great that she gives it but if she was so hard on to her morals she would have made a huge rant about that but i guess she didnt research enough
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I'm so jealous. I live in a 2 bedroom apartment and it's 950. Most 2 bedrooms you can't get for less than 900-1000 here. I'm in Oregon.Thegoatsmeow wrote:$525 here is a normal price for a nice two bedroom apartment, but where I live in Wisconsin isn't huge market like Cali. You can get a 922sqft apartment for $865 at one of the complexes here.kiki wrote:Omg.. Watched her old apartment tour... I do not remember them living there at ALL but holy shit lilia's "room" was LITERALLY a hallway. I don't know how they could even legally market that as a "2 bedroom". And $525 for a 2 bedroom (really it,s a one bedroom) is dirt cheap
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Right? My parents would never ever be so happy about me being pregnant so many times by different men. And if I was living with them, they would sure as HELL not be okay with my new boyfriend staying the night at our house with all my vulnerable little kids. No way in hell. They would be mortified by my bad choices.Fairplay wrote:When i first started watching jess and followed her through pregnancy to break ups going on for like 4 years and seeing how her mom condones and permits all that showing no sign of worry, made me feel really weird. I would think maybe if she was 30 then her mom cant really have a say but she isnt. A very positive family but the morals arent really up there
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Delayed schedule meaning shes hesitant of giving it to them (so i worded that wrong) i guess she either didnt research it or found anything that is proven enough to state that there are bad side affect of it. Because something she is hesitant about and her finding a great debate on the negative of giving vaccines, the. She would have made a video all about how vaccines are horrible. I remember her video mentioning about different parenting views or something i cant remember, and mentioned vaccines. It started a huge debate on her commentsThegoatsmeow wrote:I don't think she is against them?? I thought she said she has them on a delayed schedule?Fairplay wrote:I dont get why she's so against vaccines. Its great that she gives it but if she was so hard on to her morals she would have made a huge rant about that but i guess she didnt research enough
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J alos said something like she had liked and wanted this house for so long. i wish i could find all this, but i don't have time to look anymore