Oh I am so out of the loop!francis3125 wrote:I'm still shock with Ingrid but joey was so obvious anyway Bryan will never come out he want to portrait the perfect family...OhHiImSam wrote:All right, so Joey and Ingrid are out of the closet.
Come on Bryan. All the cool kids are doing it. Don't you want to be one of the cool kids?
I thought there was proof that he used his email to find guys to f*** on Craigslist.Deadhead_kay wrote:More presuming something as complex as sexuality!
Bryan being feminine and liking "girl" things doesn't make him gay. Liking penis makes one gay. And since there is no undeniable proof that he likes penis then we should believe his sexuality is what he says it is. If he is gay and he's not comfortable coming out then you should let him. And that goes for anyone who you question their sexuality.
There is zero proof... simply coincidence and speculation.bffb3 wrote:I thought there was proof that he used his email to find guys to f*** on Craigslist.Deadhead_kay wrote:More presuming something as complex as sexuality!
Bryan being feminine and liking "girl" things doesn't make him gay. Liking penis makes one gay. And since there is no undeniable proof that he likes penis then we should believe his sexuality is what he says it is. If he is gay and he's not comfortable coming out then you should let him. And that goes for anyone who you question their sexuality.
I agree. It's really easy to keep the weight off your belly/chest/child and keep it all on your arms & legs, so I don't see the big deal.Theirmom wrote:The barrel roll wasn't really all that bad. I play steam roller with my kids all the time (yes, even when I was pregnant). You just have to put your weight on your knees and elbows when you're belly-down. If you watch carefully, you can see that's what she's doing.
Stupid for someone who has had so many miscarriages.Jessi31 wrote:You could clearly see Ollie was scared when Missy was kicking those bags down the stairs. But did she stop? No. She just continued kicking them down. As for her rolling down the hill with Ollie, that was stupid in my opinion. It might have been fine and was no threat to the baby and to Ollie (getting squished), but why risk it? Especially when you have had losses before, you think she would be extra careful.
Being devil's advocate here......we question everything about them. Their parenting, Missy's wardrobe and hair, Bryan's relationship with his in-laws, their finances, their sleeping arrangements. Why is it ok to comment on those topics and not Bryan's sexuality?Deadhead_kay wrote:More presuming something as complex as sexuality!
Bryan being feminine and liking "girl" things doesn't make him gay. Liking penis makes one gay. And since there is no undeniable proof that he likes penis then we should believe his sexuality is what he says it is. If he is gay and he's not comfortable coming out then you should let him. And that goes for anyone who you question their sexuality.
It's totally discussable. Doing so based on how a person dresses or talks maybe not, but there is precedent based on the Craigslist thing. There was some pretty damning evidence to me and sometimes coincidence is enough.usmelllikesnow wrote:Being devil's advocate here......we question everything about them. Their parenting, Missy's wardrobe and hair, Bryan's relationship with his in-laws, their finances, their sleeping arrangements. Why is it ok to comment on those topics and not Bryan's sexuality?Deadhead_kay wrote:More presuming something as complex as sexuality!
Bryan being feminine and liking "girl" things doesn't make him gay. Liking penis makes one gay. And since there is no undeniable proof that he likes penis then we should believe his sexuality is what he says it is. If he is gay and he's not comfortable coming out then you should let him. And that goes for anyone who you question their sexuality.
I think the main problem is using stereotypes to say he has to be gay. Just because someone acts a certain way doesn't indicate a sexual preference even if someone knows dozens of people who act similarly and are gay. The Craigslist stuff should be open season though. That's as good of proof as we will get. I don't see him ever coming out so it will always be gossip at best.usmelllikesnow wrote:Being devil's advocate here......we question everything about them. Their parenting, Missy's wardrobe and hair, Bryan's relationship with his in-laws, their finances, their sleeping arrangements. Why is it ok to comment on those topics and not Bryan's sexuality?Deadhead_kay wrote:More presuming something as complex as sexuality!
Bryan being feminine and liking "girl" things doesn't make him gay. Liking penis makes one gay. And since there is no undeniable proof that he likes penis then we should believe his sexuality is what he says it is. If he is gay and he's not comfortable coming out then you should let him. And that goes for anyone who you question their sexuality.
Jessi31 wrote:You could clearly see Ollie was scared when Missy was kicking those bags down the stairs. But did she stop? No. She just continued kicking them down. As for her rolling down the hill with Ollie, that was stupid in my opinion. It might have been fine and was no threat to the baby and to Ollie (getting squished), but why risk it? Especially when you have had losses before, you think she would be extra careful.
Missy was so cautious when she was pregnant with Ollie, that she didn't even colour her hair the whole 9 months despite it looking ratchet!Kryptonite wrote:I'm sorry but I personally think that you should be more careful, regardless of whether or not you've had losses.Theirmom wrote:Jessi31 wrote:You could clearly see Ollie was scared when Missy was kicking those bags down the stairs. But did she stop? No. She just continued kicking them down. As for her rolling down the hill with Ollie, that was stupid in my opinion. It might have been fine and was no threat to the baby and to Ollie (getting squished), but why risk it? Especially when you have had losses before, you think she would be extra careful.
Why "especially when you've had losses before"?
Because people who've had losses automatically value their pregnancies and children more than people who haven't had losses? That's ridiculous.
I've also had two losses, and I still went to the carnival and steam rolled when I was pregnant. All with the thumbs up from my prenatal team. Hell, I was in a pretty serious car accident at 23 weeks with my middle child, and no harm done. They're a lot more protected in there than most people think. Having previous losses doesn't mean you have to walk on eggshells for your entire pregnancy to show how grateful you are to be pregnant.
Missy can be careless. She was prone to losing her pregnancies... which means she should, in theory, be more cautious than someone who has a history of healthy pregnancies. I think that Is what the person meant by that. That's common sense, imo.
Yes, babies are resilient but why would you purposely risk anything?
Thx! I really try! I'll be 40 in a few months and knew at age 16 I'd never be able to have kids, so she's everything to me....I love her dearly and can't imagine being like they are with Ollie. It's sad. Even sadder was B thinking O was so smart bc he said blanket. They need to be working with him on words, flash cards, letters, etc. his speech would improve quickly!thenightowl wrote:There is so much they could be doing and I hope they are reading these (Hi Bryan and Missy) because this is something that would benefit Ollie greatly, you sound like you are doing an amazing job with your nieceLuv2WatchYT wrote:I never see them do anything as far as coloring, Play Doh, cooking, etc., either and it bugs me! U also never see them get down on his level and play with him. It's odd. I'm very close to my niece, who is 2, and I keep her at least two days a week. We do sooooo much, it's unreal. We go to the park a lot, we search for trains (her fave), do flash cards, Play Doh, she helps me fix dinner in her own way, we play dress up, the list could continue but I don't bore you. I don't post much but can honestly say I wish they'd focus on Ollie and not on themselves so much. Pouring everything into your child reaps benefits you never even imagined....
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Well, as I proved with my car accident at 5 months pregnant, pretty much anything and everything in daily life can be a risk to a pregnancy. You mitigate risks vs benefits to your family life. And you run things past your doctors to get the okay when you're not sure.Kryptonite wrote:
Yes, babies are resilient but why would you purposely risk anything?
Look. You ARE misinforming the kids. That's great that things worked for you, but that doesn't mean there isn't a risk. My SIL almost died from a detaching placenta with one pregnancy and placenta previa the other. The first time she was jogging and the 2nd pregnancy she was put on bed rest. If she didn't know she had PP, she wouldn't have known to be so careful. Risks (low or high) are still risks.Theirmom wrote:Well, as I proved with my car accident at 5 months pregnant, pretty much anything and everything in daily life can be a risk to a pregnancy. You mitigate risks vs benefits to your family life. And you run things past your doctors to get the okay when you're not sure.Kryptonite wrote:
Yes, babies are resilient but why would you purposely risk anything?
There is absolutely nothing dangerous by playing steam roller with a toddler while you're pregnant, as long as you take the weight off your belly with your knees and elbows. There is nothing dangerous about the teacups at Disneyland, or any of the other kiddy rides. Saying "why risk it" is misleading, when those actives aren't inherently risky.
There are a lot of young people on this forum, most of whom have never had children. Letting them think that these safe activities could pose a risk to their potential future pregnancies is irresponsible. Someone has to be a voice of reason here, and not cynical about every little thing. I've been pregnant five times, and have three happy, healthy children. I didn't walk on eggshells while pregnant, I lived my life. I played with my children while pregnant. I took them on kiddy coasters at carnivals. I rough housed with them in the backyard. I drove my car, and yes, ended up in an accident. But all those things were necessary to continuing to live a normal, happy life in a family. You can't bubble wrap yourself when you're pregnant. It's not fair to your existing children.
