Sam and Nia: Run, Shay, Run! Part 2

[kayuhsee]

I've noticed that they actually been gaining subscribers since everything at VloggerFair

Probably so they can see what their next move is after the break.

[kingoflove21vher]

I've noticed that they actually been gaining subscribers since everything at VloggerFair

Maybe all the trolls will go sub to them and leave the rest of the web in peace ... like never.

[sfgiantsgirl]

The only way Sam would know who favorited the tweets would be if he either sat and looked at who favorited the tweets or went to each individual vlogger's Twitter page and looked at what they've favorited. Which means he was sitting on Twitter checking to see what people were saying about him. He's not sorry, he only cares if it makes him look bad. That's incredibly creepy, narcissistic, and time consuming.

[Cgl33]

I've noticed that they actually been gaining subscribers since everything at VloggerFair

Maybe all the trolls will go sub to them and leave the rest of the web in peace ... like never.

I'm not surprised. Jon and Kate got huge ratings when they announced their divorce. Who doesn't love drama? Lol

[kisses]

did anyone make a gif of shay running?


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[somewhatsilent]

did anyone make a gif of shay running?


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Lmao yes plz do it! If i knew how I would!

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[applebutter_dreams]

I think people are subscribing because they want to see how this total shitfest plays out.

[dramadaddy]

Why did Shay run? Have they been up his butt trying to "in"?

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Kind of. They've made it obvious that they want to be in Shay's 'posse'...

I honestly think he ran to see someone but Sam turned it into this "look, Shay is bullying us too! He's so popular but he's mean. This is why we are the new king/queen of YouTube"... (maybe that's a stretch??) That's why he left it in the vlog.

It's my new favorite gif, though.

i agree he def wanted to be in the posse.

i def think that shay knew what he was doing. No one said "hey shay wait up". everyone knew that shay didnt want to talk to him. you can see it in logans face. he went straight to his phone. if shay wanted to be nice, he would of ran back after talking to the next person. he also prob heard him as he was like saying "guys we are going to meet shay carl" and it sounded loud enough for me. i think that sam was chasing shay down all day and shay was just doing a good job of avoiding him. it kinda makes sense... he is a business owner and has a corporate side. why would he want to be associated with this.

[dramadaddy]

Why did Shay run? Have they been up his butt trying to "in"?

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Kind of. They've made it obvious that they want to be in Shay's 'posse'...

I honestly think he ran to see someone but Sam turned it into this "look, Shay is bullying us too! He's so popular but he's mean. This is why we are the new king/queen of YouTube"... (maybe that's a stretch??) That's why he left it in the vlog.

It's my new favorite gif, though.

i agree he def wanted to be in the posse.

i def think that shay knew what he was doing. No one said "hey shay wait up". everyone knew that shay didnt want to talk to him. you can see it in logans face. he went straight to his phone. if shay wanted to be nice, he would of ran back after talking to the next person. he also prob heard him as he was like saying "guys we are going to meet shay carl" and it sounded loud enough for me. i think that sam was chasing shay down all day and shay was just doing a good job of avoiding him. it kinda makes sense... he is a business owner and has a corporate side. why would he want to be associated with this.

[ferriswheel]

I don't know why I think Davy saying "You just got runaway from" was so funny.

[Sapphire]

I think it was more Sam who was behind all of it mostly. It seemed like he was the one who made the decisions in regards to YouTube. I remember some video's where Sam would make a decision about something, and then mention it on the vlog, but didn't talk to Nia about it first. She only found out when he would pull out the camera and say it.
Makes sense since Nia is " submissive " to him.

But that brings me to my point, it's mostly Sam that caused their YouTube career to go down the drain. He had the control. He's probably the one who decided to fake the pregnancy and fake the miscarriage to bring in views, subscribers which equals money and potential fame, which Sam admits he wanted since the beginning. But, Nia is also responsible for her own actions. They are both responsible for all this shit that's on them now, but it's mostly because of Sam.

I hope Nia realizes this. She seemed happy to be around other vloggers, meeting people and being in the community. I hope she realizes that as long as she's with Sam, she'll never get that back. She will miss out on opportunities because her husband doesn't know how to be a mature adult with morals and values.

[DizzyLizzy]

I don't think they faked the miscarriage, time will tell if I'm wrong. But I don't think they did, no real evidence to back this up though <shrugs>.

As for Sam, whilst I'm not defending him at all, I do think the stress of all the bad press got to him and he reacted in a bad way. I was seeing all the articles and trolls on their twitter, instagram and youtube and it's been relentless. Can you imagine opening your notifications everyday and seeing all that. Especially for Nia, I've seen this one guy tagging Ashley Maddison on all her instagram pictures.

I think Sam has been very short sighted and has made an awful lot of crappy decisions, and his poor wife has been caught up in the crossfire of it all. I think after vlogger fair she came down hard and actually put her foot down. If that were me, I'd take the camera off of him and do it my damn self and tell him to get back out to work.

[Sapphire]

I guess only time will tell.

There's a few reasons why I believe they lied, but again, it's mostly based on speculation.

The timing of it didn't help. Sam admitted from the beginning that he wanted to be famous. Nothing wrong with wanting to be famous.
They posted the pregnancy announcement, and the method they used is obviously unreliable. Nia, ironically, doesn't flush the toilet at night when she uriniates because she doesn't want to wake up her youngest. Fair enough. But her urine would have been sitting in the toilet all night. If she peed at night, than the urine would have already been diluted because of the liquid (beverages) that she consumed throughout the day. It's always recommended to take a pregnancy test first thing in the morning because you can get a false negative if you take it later in the day or at night because the urine is diluted with water, juice or whatever.
So the urine was already diluted because she urinated at night, but then Sam does the pregnancy test in the morning, but the urine is already diluted, and then add that to it sitting in toilet water all night, all combined with the fact that she would have been early on in her pregnancy, it seems weird to get a positive from all that dilution in the urine, combined with how early she is/was. (If she was pregnant at all).

They got viral hits from that video because it's an awesome and unique way of announcing a pregnancy. Husband announces it to his wife, that's cool. So they got more views and subscribers. Then, ironically, just two days later, she miscarries. Don't even get me started on how that video was presented. It seemed fake. It seemed like a show, like they were acting.
And again, that brought in more views and more subscribers.
Then, Sam posted a questionable tweet about how their unborn child has brought them so many views and subscribers. I cannot remember exactly what he said word for word. Megan Tonjes saw that and she questioned that. Tyler commented and said " this is jacked up " and Cullen, favorited Tyler's tweet.
Sam got unbelievably defensive, and we all know what he did at VloggerFair, in front of children, especially while Cullen was holding Macey. It's obvious Sam is very unstable.

And let's not forget, Sam " quit " his job just a couple of days after the miscarriage announcement.

Apparently, many people have done some research, called the hospital Sam worked at, spoke with doctor's and the doctor's said that using diluted urine in toilet water is NOT a reliable to detect a pregnancy, along with how Nia would been very early in the pregnancy.
Also, the doctor's said that they didn't miscarry because there was no baby to miscarry.
And apparently, Sam did not quit his job. Sam addressed these things in one of the video's (can't remember which one) and said that the people (news reporters apparently) spoke with the wrong person, and the way Sam looked and how he explained it all looked like complete garbage. My gut feeling says that he's a liar.

Nia also didn't go to the hospital, because Sam as a nurse knows everything and has seen miscarriages. But the fact that she didn't even go to the hospital seems fishy as well. You need to go to the hospital so doctor's can do an ultrasound and take a look at your uterus to see if there's anything left over (tissue, dry blood, etc) she is neglecting her health by not going, and it just doesn't seem right that she wouldn't go.

Nothing really adds up, the timing of things doesnt add up and doesn't help, and the way Sam and Nia look, and the way they explain things really doesn't do them any favors.

I had a stillbirth at 34 weeks along. My baby girl just stopped growing at 32 weeks. Obviously I had to birth her, and I'll spare you the explanation and details, but, I left the hospital and I was given a paper of the fact that I had a stillbirth, what to watch out for, etc. And it just doesn't seem right that Nia wouldn't go to the hospital to at least get her uterus checked out, and she would leave with (I'm assuming) her documents of miscarriage.

Maybe Nia should go to the hospital and explain to the doctor's that she believes she had a miscarriage on (date) and that she needs to have her uterus looked at. Sam could vlog this, they would leave the hospital with documents of miscarriage, and they could prove it to their fans that they weren't lying. I do understand this is a very private matter and they shouldn't " have to prove something like this " but at the same time, they are losing fans, losing subscribers, losing friends, and losing respect. If this were me, I'd want to prove that I wasn't lying about something like that, even if it's just to give my fans comfort and peace of mind that they aren't wasting their time.

Anyways, many things just seem wrong. As someone who has experienced a stillbirth, this kind of thing affects me greatly and I'd be absolutely revolted if they lied about this. My gut feeling feels they were and are lying but I'm not a professional at knowing when someone is lying or not.
Just many things do not add up, and don't make sense. Many things that others have said, what news reporters have said, etc.

But only time will tell. In my personal opinion, I very much dislike Sam, believe he is controlling and is a big scammer and Nia follows along to appease him. But again, only time will tell.

[flippityflop]

I guess only time will tell.

There's a few reasons why I believe they lied, but again, it's mostly based on speculation.

The timing of it didn't help. Sam admitted from the beginning that he wanted to be famous. Nothing wrong with wanting to be famous.
They posted the pregnancy announcement, and the method they used is obviously unreliable. Nia, ironically, doesn't flush the toilet at night when she uriniates because she doesn't want to wake up her youngest. Fair enough. But her urine would have been sitting in the toilet all night. If she peed at night, than the urine would have already been diluted because of the liquid (beverages) that she consumed throughout the day. It's always recommended to take a pregnancy test first thing in the morning because you can get a false negative if you take it later in the day or at night because the urine is diluted with water, juice or whatever.
So the urine was already diluted because she urinated at night, but then Sam does the pregnancy test in the morning, but the urine is already diluted, and then add that to it sitting in toilet water all night, all combined with the fact that she would have been early on in her pregnancy, it seems weird to get a positive from all that dilution in the urine, combined with how early she is/was. (If she was pregnant at all).

They got viral hits from that video because it's an awesome and unique way of announcing a pregnancy. Husband announces it to his wife, that's cool. So they got more views and subscribers. Then, ironically, just two days later, she miscarries. Don't even get me started on how that video was presented. It seemed fake. It seemed like a show, like they were acting.
And again, that brought in more views and more subscribers.
Then, Sam posted a questionable tweet about how their unborn child has brought them so many views and subscribers. I cannot remember exactly what he said word for word. Megan Tonjes saw that and she questioned that. Tyler commented and said " this is jacked up " and Cullen, favorited Tyler's tweet.
Sam got unbelievably defensive, and we all know what he did at VloggerFair, in front of children, especially while Cullen was holding Macey. It's obvious Sam is very unstable.

And let's not forget, Sam " quit " his job just a couple of days after the miscarriage announcement.

Apparently, many people have done some research, called the hospital Sam worked at, spoke with doctor's and the doctor's said that using diluted urine in toilet water is NOT a reliable to detect a pregnancy, along with how Nia would been very early in the pregnancy.
Also, the doctor's said that they didn't miscarry because there was no baby to miscarry.
And apparently, Sam did not quit his job. Sam addressed these things in one of the video's (can't remember which one) and said that the people (news reporters apparently) spoke with the wrong person, and the way Sam looked and how he explained it all looked like complete garbage. My gut feeling says that he's a liar.

Nia also didn't go to the hospital, because Sam as a nurse knows everything and has seen miscarriages. But the fact that she didn't even go to the hospital seems fishy as well. You need to go to the hospital so doctor's can do an ultrasound and take a look at your uterus to see if there's anything left over (tissue, dry blood, etc) she is neglecting her health by not going, and it just doesn't seem right that she wouldn't go.

Nothing really adds up, the timing of things doesnt add up and doesn't help, and the way Sam and Nia look, and the way they explain things really doesn't do them any favors.

I had a stillbirth at 34 weeks along. My baby girl just stopped growing at 32 weeks. Obviously I had to birth her, and I'll spare you the explanation and details, but, I left the hospital and I was given a paper of the fact that I had a stillbirth, what to watch out for, etc. And it just doesn't seem right that Nia wouldn't go to the hospital to at least get her uterus checked out, and she would leave with (I'm assuming) her documents of miscarriage.

Maybe Nia should go to the hospital and explain to the doctor's that she believes she had a miscarriage on (date) and that she needs to have her uterus looked at. Sam could vlog this, they would leave the hospital with documents of miscarriage, and they could prove it to their fans that they weren't lying. I do understand this is a very private matter and they shouldn't " have to prove something like this " but at the same time, they are losing fans, losing subscribers, losing friends, and losing respect. If this were me, I'd want to prove that I wasn't lying about something like that, even if it's just to give my fans comfort and peace of mind that they aren't wasting their time.

Anyways, many things just seem wrong. As someone who has experienced a stillbirth, this kind of thing affects me greatly and I'd be absolutely revolted if they lied about this. My gut feeling feels they were and are lying but I'm not a professional at knowing when someone is lying or not.
Just many things do not add up, and don't make sense. Many things that others have said, what news reporters have said, etc.

But only time will tell. In my personal opinion, I very much dislike Sam, believe he is controlling and is a big scammer and Nia follows along to appease him. But again, only time will tell.

I had a very early miscarriage, around the same gestation as nia and I still went to the hospital as they wanted to monitor my blood levels to make sure I was passing everything. The fact that she didn't go either says that they faked it or that sam is a piece of shit person and thinks so highly of himself that he equates his nursing degree as a doctorate.

[hannahbanana]

I think Sam manipulated Nia into thinking that she was pregnant. Maybe she was late, and Sam took advantage of that by faking a pregnancy test, Nia ended up getting her period and Sam convinced her that she had lost the baby. The fact that they did not go to the doctors makes no sense to me at all either. A friend of mine had a very early miscarriage as well and she was scheduled to go back every few so days to make sure that her body was recovering as well. So it baffles me that she didn't go to one, being a nurse and all why isn't Sam concern for his wife health?
Another reason why I think the pregnancy was fake, the way Nia was acting the day after the miscarriage video, maybe she didn't want to show any emotion but physically, she looked well to me. I don't know anyone who would go to a theme park the day after they miscarried.

[Sapphire]

I agree with everything everyone above has posted.

Not only did she literally go to a theme park the next day and look well, just a day after or two, she was talking about she feels back to her normal self and everything is okay and going great.

Way too many sketchy and flaky things. I don't believe she was pregnant or miscarried at all. Even the pregnancy announcement seemed off.

[Alisays]

I've had numerous miscarriages and only once did I go in to make sure my hCG level went back to below 5 miu. The other times I just watched my bleeding and made sure it looked okay. I don't think going in is as normal as some may think? Most women go in in hopes that something can be done, but even if your progesterone is low and that's the cause, a miscarriage cannot be stopped by that time even with a progesterone supplement. Doctors will say they want you to come in to be monitored, as far as making sure your hormone level goes down as it should. Personally I just watched my bleeding as I said, and I'd take a pregnancy test every couple of days to make sure it went back to negative.

NOT sticking up for Sam and Nia. I think it's odd how quickly she was up and about. I mean, I was never bedridden during my losses, but I wasn't going to Legoland and walking all over town or the mall with my family either.

[RainySundays]

I would just like to chime in. I had what they call a chemical pregnancy, which is essentially an early miscarriage at 5.5 weeks. I went to the doctor because that was my first time and because I wasn't sure the cause of my bleeding. Anyhow, they checked me out that day, drew blood and then told me I just wasn't pregnant and the pregnancy had resolved itself. They didn't even have me back in for more bloodwork or ultrasounds. I would have to say if it happened again I'm not sure I would go back to the doctor, I ended up with a 700$ bill for them to tell me what an HPT would have told me because my HCG levels were so low it wouldn't have shown up on a test. Can't say I really blame her for not going to the doctors. I also didn't make a video bawling my eyes out to the Internet.

[RainySundays]

Also, not trying to post a sob story or anything, just saying that I understand why she didn't go to the doctors. I am sort of on the side that they were lying about the whole thing anyway

[lillywolf2000]

Ovbiously I don't know Nia's medical history, and I don't know if they had mentioned it before, but if this was her first miscarriage, you would assume she'd go and get that checked out. She's had 2 successful pregnancies, and I know sometimes miscarriage is unexplainable, but if it was me I'd like to know if all was well with me for any future babies they might be planning.


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