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lillywolf2000 wrote:Ovbiously I don't know Nia's medical history, and I don't know if they had mentioned it before, but if this was her first miscarriage, you would assume she'd go and get that checked out. She's had 2 successful pregnancies, and I know sometimes miscarriage is unexplainable, but if it was me I'd like to know if all was well with me for any future babies they might be planning.
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Especially if it did take awhile to conceive as they claimed. You'd think they'd want an answer to both why it took awhile and why she lost it.
I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks (she would've been 6) and I side eye the shit out of the legoland trip. I'm not an emotional person but I couldn't even be around people for days. Let alone try to bust into legoland. Everyone deals in their own way so who knows but I've befriended a ton of women who had losses and none would've went to legoland like that.
Yeah, no. Nobody miscarries and then goes to an amusement park the day after. I don't buy that for one second. She got over it emotionally really fast. One day she's " miscarrying " the next day, she's at an amusement park looking well, and the next day she's talking about how she feels back to her normal self and things are fine and dandy again.
What disturbs me the most is not only did they do this for views and subscribers, they involved their children making them believe that mommy and daddy are having another baby, and eventually they will have to tell their daughter that Nia " miscarried " and her child will be really sad. The fact that they got their children involved is what disgusts me the most.
And what if they found out about this one day? They'll uncover a heck of a lot of craziness and realize that mommy and daddy are unstable and absolutely insane. And need therapy. They should really go to therapy.
Oh right, I forgot. God fixes everything. They don't need to do anything because God will fix their problems for them.
Thought I'd chime in as well. I miscarried at 7 weeks and went to the ER because I thought that was what I was supposed to do. Walked out of there with a bill and a paper about spontaneous abortions. Second miscarriage was at 8 weeks, I stayed home, monitored my bleeding and took a pregnancy test that was negative. If it happens again I will probably not go to the doctor's unless I'm further along. So I understand not going to get checked.
That being said,that pregnancy test showed a positive before the urine even reached the control line. Seems unlikely since he used old diluted urine on a cheapie test early in the pregnancy. Going to Legoland the day after a miscarriage is really odd. The bleeding doesn't end after one day and you feel emotionally wrecked. I stayed home and sulked for a few days.
I also believe Sam faked somehow the pregnancy and i don't think Nia was in on it, i mean as women we are more sensible when it comes to that and we should know not to play around with such a special thing.
But i mean, can you imagine what type of person Sam is? IF he did do what we most think he did, to involve your children telling them there is a baby in mommys tummy and all that crap he said, then go and excite everyone in the family, skyping and watching everyone first impression whilst knowing this was all a scam? I mean... What a narcissist
Another thing to consider, is that when they did the pregnancy announcement (which was way to early in my opinion), Nia herself spray painted numbers. She did do it outside, but it's pretty much common sense that pregnant woman shouldn't work with any kind of paint; she didn't even had a mask on.
I don't know if the pregnancy/miscarriage story was true or not, and frankly I don't care. What I believe is disgusting is using such a personal and sad experience to gain views and money. Maybe if they hadn't monetize the miscarriage video or not make the video at all I'd be more inclined to believe it.
I was ready to believe the pregnancy and miscarriage. I hadn't seen any of their videos...I'll be honest I still haven't watched the prenancy announcement...but then Sam kept popping up in articles saying how he wanted fo be famous, they wanted another viral video etc, and that just didn't sit well with me. Then that stupid tweet about the baby. That was and I quote "jacked up"! Like who thinks that?!? Let alone tweets it to the world for all to see and judge. Narcissistic ass hat Sam.
The truth is that I don't really care if the pregnancy/miscarriage was real or not. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. He will never admit if it was, so we will never know for sure. What I do know if that those two are royally fucked.
It's like Meghan said, you can only be tolerated for so long. Everyone tolerated their bs, everyone tried to be nice, Sam was a dick and now their career is over. He can think whatever he wants, but it is. No one in the YT community will associate with him after all this, and he will be lucky if he ever gets invited to another convention. Many YouTubers have shared their sides of the story, talked about his issues, etc. Theres just no coming back from that. They're done.
What's worse is that I don't think his job would take him back either. People were calling his hospital. They won't want the kind of negative attention they would get. That's assuming he even did really quit. Personally, I think he got fired. He stole pregnancy tests from them!
You screwed up Sam. Cut your losses, pick up the pieces and move on.
I was thinking the reason to go to the doctor after a miscarriage would be to make sure everything cleared out. Something staying could cause a pretty bad infection. I've had two and once I was done bleeding my doctor had me come in just to make sure. That's what worried me about her not going to the doctor. There's always a chance something may stay around where she'd need a D&C or misoprostol or something. It's not a super rare thing either. Happened to my friend and my mom.
He seems really desperate to be famous. It wouldn't surprise me if he swiped a pregnant ladies urine while he was at work and used it. The pregnancy test is one that is common in hospitals and doctors offices. Maybe he saw a pregnant woman's urine and thought it was the perfect opportunity.
its also possible he took the test fluid they use in hospitals to make sure the tests are working. it will show positive everytime. he could of also bought the prank ones.
Cheating/infidelity is NEVER okay. When you stand before God, your friends, & family and vow to be faithful to your partner as long as you both shall live.. You absolutely should. The way I see it there are two different kinds of cheating. (None of which are acceptable) the first being, you got drunk and mad a horrible horrible mistake. It was a one night stand. You deeply deeply regret it. But then... It's the whole Ashley Madison type of cheating. You go in with every part of you being completely okay with this. You are thinking clearly and you want to do this. You PAY for this website. You are actively attempting to cheat on your PREGNANT wife! She is creating a life. A human being. She is doing the most amazing and incredible thing a person can do. And you're over there trying to stick your hairy crescent roll into some stranger. WHO DOES THAT?!?! The absolute worst kind of person. That's who. What an ass hole.
When I think of Sam and what he's going through. That's who I think of. He is a terrible person. I don't have any sympathy for him. And I'm a very sympathetic kind of person. All I can do, all any of us can do is pray for Nia and her children. May Nia find the guts and the courage to say enough is enough and leave this loser. And find someone she deserves.
MissVeronicaaa wrote:I was thinking the reason to go to the doctor after a miscarriage would be to make sure everything cleared out. Something staying could cause a pretty bad infection. I've had two and once I was done bleeding my doctor had me come in just to make sure. That's what worried me about her not going to the doctor. There's always a chance something may stay around where she'd need a D&C or misoprostol or something. It's not a super rare thing either. Happened to my friend and my mom.
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I completely agree.
When I miscarried, I went to the E.R. After being checked the doctor told me to go to my ob and check again after I stopped bleeding to make sure that everything was cleared out. This is super important to prevent getting an infection and also to get the green light to start trying to concieve again.
Didn't she go swimming or bathing just a few days after the "mc"? Because that's also a big no no. It's not even ok to take a bath.
The real question is why wasn't the toilet flushed. They say because she didn't want to wake Abram BUT it was morning and they were already up wating breakfast. I usually pee when I wake up. So why didn't she flush when she woke up???
foreversoulmates wrote:The real question is why wasn't the toilet flushed. They say because she didn't want to wake Abram BUT it was morning and they were already up wating breakfast. I usually pee when I wake up. So why didn't she flush when she woke up???
Yeah, that's what stood out to me. I always pee first thing in the morning, and so does my daughter. So for there to STILL be pee in there when they've already made breakfast and are in the middle of eating is really, really odd.
imo, it's pretty obvious they lied. There's no way you can get a positive pregnancy test from urine that's been diluted in toilet water all night. Especially since she supposedly had a miscarriage 2 days later. How would her levels ever be high enough to detect in such a circumstance? It makes no sense.
I actually think it could be possible even with diluted pee since she supposedly went multiple times AND she was in early pregnancy. If say a 33 weeks pregnant woman or even 20 weeks pregnant woman did this it might not work bc HCG levels go up up up in early pregnancy, then calm down later.
Also just because you just miscarried or are about to doesn't always mean your HCG stops right in its tracks and goes down to zero. I was still turning tests positive weeks after my miscarriage and it took more than a month for it to finally be less than five in a blood test which is considered not pregnant again.
So if someone would do this it'd have to be someone in early pregnancy.
It's probably been said but HCG doesn't last forever. If you left a cup of pee around for days the HCG would eventually degrade. I'm not sure how quickly this happens but that is part of why the test recommends fresh pee. I read a post on babycenter when I was pregnant With my daughter where someone asked if they could save pee to test with her husband. A few nurses replied and said to refrigerate (eww) it to slow down the HCG breakdown. I would also think chemical toilet cleaners could speed the process or alter the test results.
Edit: Dr Google said HCG half life is 24 hours. So maybe it didn't breakdown to the point of being unreadable. Still call BS though.
When I was 15 days past ovulation my HCG was 1193. This diluted would be very unlikely to turn a test that fast. Now if she was two weeks "late" like Sam said (which I doubt), her HCG could be much higher. When I was two weeks late it was just under 11,000.
For each of my losses however, my HCG rose much more slowly and then started to fall. (120 at 15 dpo for example and 4485 two weeks later with HCG still rising). I find it highly unlikely that Sam would have been so confident that a diluted test would come out positive. It really comes down to whether they meant she was 4 weeks pregnant or 6 weeks. Two weeks late seems like a long time for Nia to go without telling Sam. She also doesn't seem like the type to just text him that. That's more his style, no?
And her bladder is the size of a golf ball but she can get up, do her hair and makeup and look after the kids for awhile and not have to pee once? Sorry, but there are too many things that don't add up.
Yeah, I definitely think that part seems fishy. And just to clarify I wasn't at all saying I think the miscarriage and pregnancy was real. I'm more leaning towards it not being real and him just using apple juice or something to make the test positive.
I just was saying if an actual person in early pregnancy peed multiple times in a toilet and then tested it in the morning I could see it turning positive.
