Bonnie/Ellie Thread Participants

[HelloSweetie]

Some people lack self awareness.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Greys Encyclopedia]

I do not see the need for three threads to bash Ellie. Sorry, I just don't understand that level of hate put on a total stranger whose life you see ten minutes of every day.

Still reading the last half of your post but this makes me laugh. I don't see the need to personally attack HS everytime you see her post, when you've never even seen what she looks like. If you have her foed, why does it matter if she doesn't have you foed. I'm not entirely sure how the foe works, but if you still see her responses to your posts, then just move tf along.

[Nini12]

Hmm. I'll look into it. It wasn't like that before!

How weird, I have added people on my foe list in the last few months and when that person comments I get this, no matter if I'm checking the forum on tapatalk through my mobile or via web without tapatalk.

"This post was made by ...... who is currently in your ignore list. Display this post" and if I want to read it I have to click on it, otherwise it just says "Spoiler" .

Honestly, what can we do if the majority of the people agree in the 3 threads that E&J have been handling themselves worst this last year? Why are people questioning how frequently someone posts in this forum? Does it really affect you in an important way? That's too much energy dedicated to someone you don't even know. There's a huge difference between having an opinion on what a youtuber does (that person makes money of showing their family, they film themselves all the year) while a poster doesn't get anything from the forum aside from a place where he/she can express what they though without getting hate messages from fans of the vloggers.

When I said before that I don't care if someone has kids, is a nurse, a teacher, etc, what I meant that I don't care if that's pointed out as a wait to convince the other part that you're right, there can be many mothers here and probably there are many things that they won't agree and do things differently, so why spend your time convincing another person that they're in the wrong and that your way is the best because you worked with kids? People give their opinion, they don't have to prove anything to the rest of the posters, we don't even know each other and if someone disagrees with me it wont hurt me or change my view, that's what I was trying to say.

[saltliferocks]

Snow,
You can't blame HS when you piss people off. When you had your tantrum on me, I tried to deal with your passive-aggressive ass through pm.
This whole situation is beyond ridiculous! Grown women should be able to have opinions without it turning into some middle-school bullshit.

[alym0326]

Okay so here is my opinion on the whole Bonnie/Ellie thread.

I'll preface this by saying this is very long, so if you don't wanna read it that's fine! Secondly, I agree with most of what you all say on Ellie and Jareds thread - I don't usually chime in unless I disagree because if I chimed in when I agreed it was just be a broken record of everyone saying the same thing - so I only speak up when I disagree with something. I think Bonnie is a great mother but again, if I continually say that in her thread - it's a broken record cause it's said so often - so I comment when there's something negative because it is so few and far between that she shows something wrong in her videos.

First I'll start with HS, since she says I went off on her yesterday - here is my reasoning for that. We have rules, we have had the threads locked down multiple times for breaking them. There were about 5+ comments yesterday talking about E+J and it was irritating because it wasn't from new users - it was from people who knew the rules. So anyways, I ignored it and didn't do anything hoping a Mod would step in and set it straight - then I make a comment regarding something that happened in Bonnie's video - just specifically what happened in the video. I also made a very similar comment in the comparison thread but was then talking about multiple of the Griffiths and wanted to know if they all had the same safety issues. After that, HS comments on my post in the Bonnie thread telling me that there's no reason to post it in here and should just leave it in the comparison thread - and in the comparison thread makes the assumption that all I'm doing is bashing Bonnie and didn't actually want more info on the other Griffiths and that I just wanted an excuse to bash Bonnie. So after I was told that I shouldn't clog up two threads with that same thing I got very irritated because I had just read 1. The E+J thread with 99% negative posts about them (which is fine) 2. The comparison thread which often turns into an E+J bashing or a Ellie vs Bonnie debate leaving Ellie the "loser" and then the Bonnie thread which we are not allowed to talk about Ellie and Jared in - which had a number of posts about them that day. So I was annoyed that I was told to not comment something that happened in the vlog In Bonnie's thread... So I said "but we can have three threads of bashing Ellie and Jared?". This is the first time I have sent any message to HS with the intent of arguing or while being annoyed - she has said countless times to me in threads that I'm missing her point and I don't listen or understand - yesterday was the first time I've responded to anything of hers without the intent of respect. So that's why I went off on Hs, she told me that I shouldn't post something ABOUT Bonnie in the Bonnie thread after I had seen countless people discussing Ellie and Jared in all three threads - which is against the rules. So I got annoyed.

Second, stuff Bonnie does gets excused all the time - when Boston was playing with scissors multiple times - some made excuses for letting an almost 3 year old play with scissors. Boston being outside alone - people made excuses and even redirected the convo to Jackson being outside in the fenced area in front of their house. Cody getting a pocket knife - someone couldn't understand why we were discussing a child getting a weapon over an adult getting a weapon... As if an adult getting one was more dangerous. It's like you need to have picture evidence and a hand written letter from the pope to have anyone actually discuss the stuff Bonnie does - well talk about it for maybe half a page - but then it stops. But In the Ellie and Jared thread, they could look at Jackson the wrong way and everyone says they don't love him - someone says they feel sick and goes to bed - they got into a fight. Main issue: Ellie and Jareds thread is a lot of assumptions along with facts. Bonnie's thread: can only be negative when there's facts.

Thirdly, there have been multiple times I have been asked whether I'm a mother when I state my opinion. And I don't think that is fair in the slightest - I don't think I need to be a mother to understand you don't put rocks in a baby's bed or you don't give a 4 year old a pocket knife. There's no need to know someone's background when they're making an opinion.

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[HelloSweetie]

I was not one of the people that broke the comparison rule yesterday. Yet the SECOND I post it fell back on me. Just like 5 people could comment on E&J, but Alym you debate and disagree with every one of my posts. But sure, I make it personal.

The error I made yesterday was responding when everyone jumped on board. And look what happened here! But sure.... I'm the bully. Hope everyone feels really good about themselves. If this is all about foeing then it's done.

And since Snow wants to call me out on being a bad parent because I have time to post... I have a colicky kid that doesn't sleep. I walk around carrying him because he cries when I sit. I can browse this site while holding him. I can't do anything productive carrying 20 pounds. I also post when I'm waiting at my older son's activities. Dance, swimming, TKD, etc. There's a lot of waiting. (Personal shit Is annoying, I know, but this has gotten pretty fucking personal). Maybe everyone should have to justify how they have time to spend on here.. Seriously your life must be incredibly hard with the victim complex you have going on. Now go back to your private group and find someone else to talk about behind the scenes.

Foeing now.

[alym0326]

I was not one of the people that broke the comparison rule yesterday. Yet the SECOND I post it fell back on me. Just like 5 people could comment on E&J, but Alym you debate and disagree with every one of my posts. But sure, I make it personal.

The error I made yesterday was responding when everyone jumped on board. And look what happened here! But sure.... I'm the bully. Hope everyone feels really good about themselves. If this is all about foeing then it's done.

And since Snow wants to call me out on being a bad parent because I have time to post... I have a colicky kid that doesn't sleep. I walk around carrying him because he cries when I sit. I can browse this site while holding him. I can't do anything productive carrying 20 pounds. I also post when I'm waiting at my older son's activities. Dance, swimming, TKD, etc. There's a lot of waiting. (Personal shit Is annoying, I know, but this has gotten pretty fucking personal). Maybe everyone should have to justify how they have time to spend on here.. Seriously your life must be incredibly hard with the victim complex you have going on. Now go back to your private group and find someone else to talk about behind the scenes.

Foeing now.

I do not debate with every single one of your posts, I debate when I disagree - I have stated that multiple times. I rarely comment in the E+J thread which you frequent in, if I debated every single one of your posts my name would be in there much more than it is now. Also, I don't recall if you were on of the people talking about E+J in bonnies thread yesterday, but you were the one who told me that my comment should be in the comparison thread instead of Bonnies despite me making a comparison, that is why you received my "aggressive" response to the message - it wasn't solely directed at you, but the thread in general seeing as at that moment all 3 threads had talks about ellie and jared. Also, I never said you make anything personal...? ill say it again, the post i just made wasn't solely directed at you, the first part was the only thing to do with you - the rest was the threads in general...

[GymChick]

No. The problem isn't that you are part of the majority.

The problem is that you post WAY too often, usually saying the exact same shit over and over again. Bonnie rocks, Ellie sucks. We get it, and most of us agree with that general statement.

Nearly every single post gets a reply from you, if you agree or disagree and it swallows the thread.

And on top of that, you pretend to be a mod. It wouldnt be so bad if you just inboxed someone and said "hey that's actually against the rules/should be done a bit differently." Instead you chomp them like you're queen of YTMD, hoping for ass pats.


Okay, I'm done now. Had to get that out.

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HS may reply a lot and say a lot of the same things, but so do I. Just "foe" the people you don't like and stop bitching about it. HS is polite in her replies and you are passive aggressive rude in yours.


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1. I did foe her.

2. I haven't been bitching, this was a thread made for this and she obviously had no idea what the real issue was. So I told her.

3. If you don't like me, foe me and quit bitching

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Sorry for being snarky myself. I was just upset that HS was being cornered/singled out , when many others do the same thing.

I'm a sensitive soul and I don't like when people gang up on one person. It's mean lol

I'm staying out of it now


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[saltliferocks]

Since we are putting HS's stuff out here, I feel it is only fair that people know that snow does a lot of shady crap to HS that no one hears about. Snow is just a coward in the way she goes about it. I've recently experienced it first-hand. Don't act all self righteous, when you are a hypocrite..

[alym0326]

Just a note that this isn't a HS only hate thread - you're allowed to talk about any of the participants... It just happens to be that some talking in here have a problem with HS. No ones trying to make this a HS hate thread


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[GymChick]

Just a note that this isn't a HS only hate thread - you're allowed to talk about any of the participants... It just happens to be that some talking in here have a problem with HS. No ones trying to make this a HS hate thread


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It originally started as one. It used to be titled "hellosweetie"


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[alym0326]

Just a note that this isn't a HS only hate thread - you're allowed to talk about any of the participants... It just happens to be that some talking in here have a problem with HS. No ones trying to make this a HS hate thread


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It originally started as one. It used to be titled "hellosweetie"


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Oh! I didn't know that.


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[Nini12]

Just a note that this isn't a HS only hate thread - you're allowed to talk about any of the participants... It just happens to be that some talking in here have a problem with HS. No ones trying to make this a HS hate thread


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It originally started as one. It used to be titled "hellosweetie"


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It's even in the first post that you gave it a thumbs up, come on... .

[alym0326]

Just a note that this isn't a HS only hate thread - you're allowed to talk about any of the participants... It just happens to be that some talking in here have a problem with HS. No ones trying to make this a HS hate thread


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It originally started as one. It used to be titled "hellosweetie"


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It's even in the first post that you gave it a thumbs up, come on... .

No where in that post does it say it was titled "hellosweetie" also sorry that I didn't remember what this was originally meant for when one post was posted like 20 hours ago. I genuinely didn't remember that for ONE post this was a HS thread - believe it or not.


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[saltliferocks]

AMEN!
Notice that Sno is MIA, even though she is a major contributor of the BS

[Sapphire]

Ha ha ha. I actually adore HelloSweetie and haven't been annoyed by her at all. I find it crazy that some of you are complaining about things she does, yet you're guilty of the same things. Lol, okay. Crawl back inside the hole you came out of, hypocrite.

But am I ever glad this has been created because my one issue is with one user Alym, who actually does constantly disagree and makes it known that she disagrees with HS. She quotes her posts, literally tries to push her buttons and I can see this very clearly. She's constantly in the E+J threads defending Ellie on the regular. I don't even know why she's here because she disagrees with everyone who doesn't praise Ellie. But she's mostly targeted HS. I can see her trying to pick arguments. She will actually argue until HS says ''I won't argue with you'' and then she's all like ''yeah, no arguing!'' even though she was just doing that.

I find it unbelievable that some of you have targeted HS when she's not even the annoying 24/7 poster, the crazy vlogger lover (Alym), that user who needs a fucking therapist, that user who loves arguing with other users, that personal story advocate user, that ''pity me'' user, that ''my child does this and yours doesn't so he has issues!'' user, that user who likes to diagnose... etc.

She states her opinions. She can be sassy when a user (*cough*alym*cough) pushes her buttons and craves an argument but we ALL can/will get sassy when someone is ticking us off. Same goes for alym, if she feels ticked off by someone, go ahead and get sassy but don't moan and complain when someone does the same.

Shocked that this even exists because I think HS is one of the sweetest, most valuable users. It'd be a real damn shame if she left, in my opinion.

And alym, this boxing thread was named HelloSweetie, when you liked it. Did you really think nobody would notice? Stop trying to make yourself look like a damn angel.

[alym0326]

Ha ha ha. I actually adore HelloSweetie and haven't been annoyed by her at all. I find it crazy that some of you are complaining about things she does, yet you're guilty of the same things. Lol, okay. Crawl back inside the hole you came out of, hypocrite.

But am I ever glad this has been created because my one issue is with one user Alym, who actually does constantly disagree and makes it known that she disagrees with HS. She quotes her posts, literally tries to push her buttons and I can see this very clearly. She's constantly in the E+J threads defending Ellie on the regular. I don't even know why she's here because she disagrees with everyone who doesn't praise Ellie. But she's mostly targeted HS. I can see her trying to pick arguments. She will actually argue until HS says ''I won't argue with you'' and then she's all like ''yeah, no arguing!'' even though she was just doing that.

I find it unbelievable that some of you have targeted HS when she's not even the annoying 24/7 poster, the crazy vlogger lover (Alym), that user who needs a fucking therapist, that user who loves arguing with other users, that personal story advocate user, that ''pity me'' user, that ''my child does this and yours doesn't so he has issues!'' user, that user who likes to diagnose... etc.

She states her opinions. She can be sassy when a user (*cough*alym*cough) pushes her buttons and craves an argument but we ALL can/will get sassy when someone is ticking us off. Same goes for alym, if she feels ticked off by someone, go ahead and get sassy but don't moan and complain when someone does the same.

Shocked that this even exists because I think HS is one of the sweetest, most valuable users. It'd be a real damn shame if she left, in my opinion.

And alym, this boxing thread was named HelloSweetie, when you liked it. Did you really think nobody would notice? Stop trying to make yourself look like a damn angel.

Uh, I usually don't even look at who posted what - I definitely don't search out HS and only comment on things she's done - also, I've never tried to push HS's buttons, I've even asked a mod to go look through my posts and to tell me if I'm being argumentative because it's not my intention - ask Kryptonite if you want and please go look through the e and j thread again and tell me if anything I've said the last two days is praising them. You seriously must miss every post where I say that I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT IS SAID and only comment when there's something I disagree with that's said - i don't know how many times I have to say that for you to understand. And uh, I've been the first to say agree to disagree many times when discussing things. I comment when I disagree with something I don't search out HS's comments to disagree with - If I was so into looking for an argument I would have done what Kryptonite told me to do yesterday which was to create this exact thread - but I didn't because I told her I'm not on this site to argue - just because your interpreting my words as "sassy" doesn't mean that's my meaning behind them. Yesterday I'll admit I was being sassy but most of my other posts are NOT meant to be argumentative - I usually freaking start it with I respectfully disagree and state my reasoning on why - I've never attacked someone for their opinion. HS has been rude to me many times in her responses whenever I say ANYTHING negative about Bonnie - even when it's something that's justified in getting hate like letting your 2 year old son outside with no supervision or letting him play with scissors unsupervised. I've never intentionally been rude though.

Also when have I complained over someone gets sassy with me....... I've never complained or gone to a MOD over my dislike for a poster and I'm sure Kryptonite could confirm that.

Also just because I liked a post from however many hours ago doesn't mean I liked it when it was posted. for your damn information I liked it today at around 5pm when I made my own post after going through and reading all the posts before mine - thank you for the assumption though. I wish there was a way to show when a damn post was liked.

Anyways I'm over this thread - my problem isn't solely with HS like I said in my original thread.


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[sarah]

Ha ha ha. I actually adore HelloSweetie and haven't been annoyed by her at all. I find it crazy that some of you are complaining about things she does, yet you're guilty of the same things. Lol, okay. Crawl back inside the hole you came out of, hypocrite.

But am I ever glad this has been created because my one issue is with one user Alym, who actually does constantly disagree and makes it known that she disagrees with HS. She quotes her posts, literally tries to push her buttons and I can see this very clearly. She's constantly in the E+J threads defending Ellie on the regular. I don't even know why she's here because she disagrees with everyone who doesn't praise Ellie. But she's mostly targeted HS. I can see her trying to pick arguments. She will actually argue until HS says ''I won't argue with you'' and then she's all like ''yeah, no arguing!'' even though she was just doing that.

I find it unbelievable that some of you have targeted HS when she's not even the annoying 24/7 poster, the crazy vlogger lover (Alym), that user who needs a fucking therapist, that user who loves arguing with other users, that personal story advocate user, that ''pity me'' user, that ''my child does this and yours doesn't so he has issues!'' user, that user who likes to diagnose... etc.

She states her opinions. She can be sassy when a user (*cough*alym*cough) pushes her buttons and craves an argument but we ALL can/will get sassy when someone is ticking us off. Same goes for alym, if she feels ticked off by someone, go ahead and get sassy but don't moan and complain when someone does the same.

Shocked that this even exists because I think HS is one of the sweetest, most valuable users. It'd be a real damn shame if she left, in my opinion.

And alym, this boxing thread was named HelloSweetie, when you liked it. Did you really think nobody would notice? Stop trying to make yourself look like a damn angel.

Uh, I usually don't even look at who posted what - I definitely don't search out HS and only comment on things she's done - also, I've never tried to push HS's buttons, I've even asked a mod to go look through my posts and to tell me if I'm being argumentative because it's not my intention - ask Kryptonite if you want and please go look through the e and j thread again and tell me if anything I've said the last two days is praising them. You seriously must miss every post where I say that I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT IS SAID and only comment when there's something I disagree with that's said - i don't know how many times I have to say that for you to understand. And uh, I've been the first to say agree to disagree many times when discussing things. I comment when I disagree with something I don't search out HS's comments to disagree with - If I was so into looking for an argument I would have done what Kryptonite told me to do yesterday which was to create this exact thread - but I didn't because I told her I'm not on this site to argue - just because your interpreting my words as "sassy" doesn't mean that's my meaning behind them. Yesterday I'll admit I was being sassy but most of my other posts are NOT meant to be argumentative - I usually freaking start it with I respectfully disagree and state my reasoning on why - I've never attacked someone for their opinion. HS has been rude to me many times in her responses whenever I say ANYTHING negative about Bonnie - even when it's something that's justified in getting hate like letting your 2 year old son outside with no supervision or letting him play with scissors unsupervised. I've never intentionally been rude though.

Also when have I complained over someone gets sassy with me....... I've never complained or gone to a MOD over my dislike for a poster and I'm sure Kryptonite could confirm that.

Also just because I liked a post from however many hours ago doesn't mean I liked it when it was posted. for your damn information I liked it today at around 5pm when I made my own post after going through and reading all the posts before mine - thank you for the assumption though. I wish there was a way to show when a damn post was liked.

Anyways I'm over this thread - my problem isn't solely with HS like I said in my original thread.


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It seems like you support E & J when you think they deserve it and that doesn't sit well with some. I don't know everyone's interactions on here, but I've never seen you post anything that seems out of line.

[alym0326]

Ha ha ha. I actually adore HelloSweetie and haven't been annoyed by her at all. I find it crazy that some of you are complaining about things she does, yet you're guilty of the same things. Lol, okay. Crawl back inside the hole you came out of, hypocrite.

But am I ever glad this has been created because my one issue is with one user Alym, who actually does constantly disagree and makes it known that she disagrees with HS. She quotes her posts, literally tries to push her buttons and I can see this very clearly. She's constantly in the E+J threads defending Ellie on the regular. I don't even know why she's here because she disagrees with everyone who doesn't praise Ellie. But she's mostly targeted HS. I can see her trying to pick arguments. She will actually argue until HS says ''I won't argue with you'' and then she's all like ''yeah, no arguing!'' even though she was just doing that.

I find it unbelievable that some of you have targeted HS when she's not even the annoying 24/7 poster, the crazy vlogger lover (Alym), that user who needs a fucking therapist, that user who loves arguing with other users, that personal story advocate user, that ''pity me'' user, that ''my child does this and yours doesn't so he has issues!'' user, that user who likes to diagnose... etc.

She states her opinions. She can be sassy when a user (*cough*alym*cough) pushes her buttons and craves an argument but we ALL can/will get sassy when someone is ticking us off. Same goes for alym, if she feels ticked off by someone, go ahead and get sassy but don't moan and complain when someone does the same.

Shocked that this even exists because I think HS is one of the sweetest, most valuable users. It'd be a real damn shame if she left, in my opinion.

And alym, this boxing thread was named HelloSweetie, when you liked it. Did you really think nobody would notice? Stop trying to make yourself look like a damn angel.

Uh, I usually don't even look at who posted what - I definitely don't search out HS and only comment on things she's done - also, I've never tried to push HS's buttons, I've even asked a mod to go look through my posts and to tell me if I'm being argumentative because it's not my intention - ask Kryptonite if you want and please go look through the e and j thread again and tell me if anything I've said the last two days is praising them. You seriously must miss every post where I say that I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT IS SAID and only comment when there's something I disagree with that's said - i don't know how many times I have to say that for you to understand. And uh, I've been the first to say agree to disagree many times when discussing things. I comment when I disagree with something I don't search out HS's comments to disagree with - If I was so into looking for an argument I would have done what Kryptonite told me to do yesterday which was to create this exact thread - but I didn't because I told her I'm not on this site to argue - just because your interpreting my words as "sassy" doesn't mean that's my meaning behind them. Yesterday I'll admit I was being sassy but most of my other posts are NOT meant to be argumentative - I usually freaking start it with I respectfully disagree and state my reasoning on why - I've never attacked someone for their opinion. HS has been rude to me many times in her responses whenever I say ANYTHING negative about Bonnie - even when it's something that's justified in getting hate like letting your 2 year old son outside with no supervision or letting him play with scissors unsupervised. I've never intentionally been rude though.

Also when have I complained over someone gets sassy with me....... I've never complained or gone to a MOD over my dislike for a poster and I'm sure Kryptonite could confirm that.

Also just because I liked a post from however many hours ago doesn't mean I liked it when it was posted. for your damn information I liked it today at around 5pm when I made my own post after going through and reading all the posts before mine - thank you for the assumption though. I wish there was a way to show when a damn post was liked.

Anyways I'm over this thread - my problem isn't solely with HS like I said in my original thread.


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It seems like you support E & J when you think they deserve it and that doesn't sit well with some. I don't know everyone's interactions on here, but I've never seen you post anything that seems out of line.

Well, you summed that up better in one paragraph than I could in an entire large post - but yes! That is exactly how it is! Most of the stuff I agree with when it comes to Ellie and Jared! I don't know how many times I've said that.


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[actuallydear]

If you're having to run to a moderator to waste their time so they can go through your posts to validate whether you've done anything wrong is ridiculous. Take a step back. This is an online forum and if these issues are bothering everyone so much to the point where you cannot skim past someone's post, then it's time to step back from your phone and computer. Wow. The fact any of this needs to be said.