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Lurker4Life wrote:Did I miss something??? I heard Katie make one comment, which I took as a joke, and suddenly she whinged about it heaps and their whole fundraiser should be discounted? And for people saying they get a massive tax reduction, from everything I've read on external sources it would end up less than a grand. I know that's still money, but compared to how much they earn its not really something I would be concerned about. +, we still don't know why they didn't submit the money straight to the charity, sure it may have been to get tax, but it also could have been that their were issues getting it approved and such
Just going to say one thing-- you're entitled to your opinion on everything- but I seriously doubt getting the American Cancer Society approved as a charity for the site was an issue. ACS has been around at least 50 years. It's not a teeny little church or local charity. So that reason them transferring the money into their account and then adding it to the matching funds doesn't fly. That's all.

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The whole detox scam is HUGE in how I view them. It really showed their true character. They outright lied, and they don't care about it. That's no better then the lumps.
Katie's reaction is also very telling. She totally wanted to keep that money, understandably, Cullen talked her into it with the promise of the trip.
I think raising money for a worthy cause is great, but when you're doing it for your own gain that's pretty low, especially when you're using relatively young viewers to do so.
They could have gone about this much better, it didn't need to be so self serving.
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How do we know that the money was put into their account and not sent to the charity directly? also, how do we know what amount they are going to write off? They could very well just claim the amount they matched and not the other part...
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Another point.. wont they have to pay taxes on the trip? You have to pay taxes on prize winnings..
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I was too slow to edit, but wanted to add, people using E&J and DB and their bad behavior as reasons why we shouldn't side eye things about this are basically saying that they're not as bad as their friends, so what they do isn't really wrong. The trip doesn't bother me as much because it was probably donated, and they will probably use it for views, but I do agree that it should have been given to someone with the disease. Adults don't have a Make a Wish program. But that's not C&K's fault. I do have a problem with them arranging to take a bigger tax deduction. And the grumbling, even if it was a joke. It sounds bad coming from someone with everything she has.

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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:The whole detox scam is HUGE in how I view them. It really showed their true character. They outright lied, and they don't care about it. That's no better then the lumps.
Katie's reaction is also very telling.She totally wanted to keep that money, understandably, Cullen talked her into it with the promise of the trip.
I think raising money for a worthy cause is great, but when you're doing it for your own gain that's pretty low, especially when you're using relatively young viewers to do so.
They could have gone about this much better, it didn't need to be so self serving.
But see how do you know this??? From one vlog and statement you gathered their whole plan? I rewatched the bit where she made that comment again and honestly, I probably would have said the same thing, especially if I was planning on donating 10%-20% of what I actually did. I took it as a joke, if it was malicious why would they have kept it in? They wanted people to donate, not for people to see that and have the reaction that's going on here.

And this is for everyone, but on the website can you actually see how many were sold? I thought I checked and you couldn't so don't you really think that if they wanted to keep some money and not donate as much they would have said less were sold and broke even/spent less than they did.
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Playsinrain wrote:How do we know that the money was put into their account and not sent to the charity directly? also, how do we know what amount they are going to write off? They could very well just claim the amount they matched and not the other part...
Cullen explained that the money would go into their account first and not sent to the charity directly in the video "unbelievable breast cancer donations." He explained that they would deposit the profits into their account and then write a check for the full amount. It's around the 11 minute mark.
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Lurker4Life wrote:
FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:The whole detox scam is HUGE in how I view them. It really showed their true character. They outright lied, and they don't care about it. That's no better then the lumps.
Katie's reaction is also very telling.She totally wanted to keep that money, understandably, Cullen talked her into it with the promise of the trip.
I think raising money for a worthy cause is great, but when you're doing it for your own gain that's pretty low, especially when you're using relatively young viewers to do so.
They could have gone about this much better, it didn't need to be so self serving.
But see how do you know this??? From one vlog and statement you gathered their whole plan? I rewatched the bit where she made that comment again and honestly, I probably would have said the same thing, especially if I was planning on donating 10%-20% of what I actually did. I took it as a joke, if it was malicious why would they have kept it in? They wanted people to donate, not for people to see that and have the reaction that's going on here.

And this is for everyone, but on the website can you actually see how many were sold? I thought I checked and you couldn't so don't you really think that if they wanted to keep some money and not donate as much they would have said less were sold and broke even/spent less than they did.
Because that's what she said, lol she was not happy about having to fork out the money, she even wanted to keep the profit and not just what they were going to match. Cullen brought up winning the trip.

It's no different then saying how do you know she's joking? How do you know Cullen didn't come up with this because he wanted to go on a trip and Katie said no because they need the funds to go towards house renovations and moving?

What they've done is shady. And if it were any other couple they'd be called out for it. Especially since it's not the first shady thing they've done.
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lmmomSD wrote:I was too slow to edit, but wanted to add, people using E&J and DB and their bad behavior as reasons why we shouldn't side eye things about this are basically saying that they're not as bad as their friends, so what they do isn't really wrong. The trip doesn't bother me as much because it was probably donated, and they will probably use it for views, but I do agree that it should have been given to someone with the disease. Adults don't have a Make a Wish program. But that's not C&K's fault. I do have a problem with them arranging to take a bigger tax deduction. And the grumbling, even if it was a joke. It sounds bad coming from someone with everything she has.

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In this case you can use DB and E&J as an example because they actually scammed people and it didn't get discussed for pages and pages. They did nothing wrong here. They donated $3500 of their own money. They arranged a fundraiser that helped earn another $3500. They did something good. Other vloggers talk about doing good, but sit in their asses and do nothing. K&C came into the fundraiser with good intentions.

This is no different to me than silent auction fundraisers/galas, or other fundraisers where you get something in return. In any of those cases you could argue the person could just donate the item back. Honestly, then those fundraisers wouldn't be so effective. Giving to charity is a good thing, and I really believe it's being blown out of proportion.
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Sorry by the way if I seem to be going on about this, I tend to see the good in people rather than the bad unless it is right infront of my eye. Hopefully in the new vlog something will happen that will divert from this issue --> for all of our sanity.
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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:

It's no different then saying how do you know she's joking? How do you know Cullen didn't come up with this because he wanted to go on a trip and Katie said no because they need the funds to go towards house renovations and moving?
People keep saying this. ^

They. Did. Not. Know. The. Trip. Was. An. Incentive. Until. Halfway. Through. The. Campaign.

So why would they do this to win a trip? Anyone?
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lmmomSD wrote:
Lurker4Life wrote:Did I miss something??? I heard Katie make one comment, which I took as a joke, and suddenly she whinged about it heaps and their whole fundraiser should be discounted? And for people saying they get a massive tax reduction, from everything I've read on external sources it would end up less than a grand. I know that's still money, but compared to how much they earn its not really something I would be concerned about. +, we still don't know why they didn't submit the money straight to the charity, sure it may have been to get tax, but it also could have been that their were issues getting it approved and such
Just going to say one thing-- you're entitled to your opinion on everything- but I seriously doubt getting the American Cancer Society approved as a charity for the site was an issue. ACS has been around at least 50 years. It's not a teeny little church or local charity. So that reason them transferring the money into their account and then adding it to the matching funds doesn't fly. That's all.

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I don't think getting ACS approved was difficult, but it may have been hard to get the donations to go to the specific campaign for them to get credit. Since there is the middle man in there, Teespring might have given them some grief. But then again, I've never tried to fundraise with Teespring.

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Lurker4Life wrote:
FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:The whole detox scam is HUGE in how I view them. It really showed their true character. They outright lied, and they don't care about it. That's no better then the lumps.
Katie's reaction is also very telling.She totally wanted to keep that money, understandably, Cullen talked her into it with the promise of the trip.
I think raising money for a worthy cause is great, but when you're doing it for your own gain that's pretty low, especially when you're using relatively young viewers to do so.
They could have gone about this much better, it didn't need to be so self serving.
But see how do you know this??? From one vlog and statement you gathered their whole plan? I rewatched the bit where she made that comment again and honestly, I probably would have said the same thing, especially if I was planning on donating 10%-20% of what I actually did. I took it as a joke, if it was malicious why would they have kept it in? They wanted people to donate, not for people to see that and have the reaction that's going on here.

And this is for everyone, but on the website can you actually see how many were sold? I thought I checked and you couldn't so don't you really think that if they wanted to keep some money and not donate as much they would have said less were sold and broke even/spent less than they did.
Because that's what she said, lol she was not happy about having to fork out the money, she even wanted to keep the profit and not just what they were going to match. Cullen brought up winning the trip.

It's no different then saying how do you know she's joking? How do you know Cullen didn't come up with this because he wanted to go on a trip and Katie said no because they need the funds to go towards house renovations and moving?

What they've done is shady. And if it were any other couple they'd be called out for it. Especially since it's not the first shady thing they've done.
I never said she was joking, I've said I took it as a joke, because to me that is more logical and that is what more evidence points toward. Once again, you did the exact same thing that I was calling people out on with your first line. There are such things such as 'joking' 'sarcasm' 'context' 'tone' etc that need to be taken into account for, otherwise, by your logic of "she said it so she must mean the words exactly as what they are", if someone says "I'm gonna kill you' we should all be fearing for our lives.
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One other thing people aren't taking into account, the detox thing, what personal connection did they actually have with that? None. This however seemed deeply personal. We saw how much Cullen loved and respected his father, and I can't see him using that as a ways of extorting money.
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What Katie said and Cullen's response hasn't been taken out of context. She said those words. Joking or not.

The detox thing was a complete scam and very shady of them. They outright lied for their own gain so how can you say they're not being shady now when they've done something similar in the past?

They really are no different then their friends. Like I've said before, if this was any other couple in their situation they'd totally be getting the side eye for making sure they benefited as much as possible from this.
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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:What Katie said and Cullen's response hasn't been taken out of context. She said those words. Joking or not.

The detox thing was a complete scam and very shady of them. They outright lied for their own gain so how can you say they're not being shady now when they've done something similar in the past?

They really are no different then their friends. Like I've said before, if this was any other couple in their situation they'd totally be getting the side eye for making sure they benefited as much as possible from this.
Joking or not plays a huge factor in this whole thing, but obviously that is subjective (by subjective I mean that one here different people have different views). And like how you say I can't say they aren't being shady now, how can you say they are?
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I'm not going back and forth with you anymore. You're entitled to your opinion, so am I. This is a gossip site. And while most has been positive about Cullen and Katie some negative things are coming to light and I'm not the only one questioning some things.
I still like them and will continue to watch for now but this, especially with the recent detox issue, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don't think they were in this for the right reasons, especially not Katie. Based on her OWN comments. Time will tell how truly like their friends they are. I've stopped watching the lumps and E&J, if more things like this happen with Cullen and Katie I'll stop watching them too.
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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:I'm not going back and forth with you anymore. You're entitled to your opinion, so am I. This is a gossip site. And while most has been positive about Cullen and Katie some negative things are coming to light and I'm not the only one questioning some things.
I still like them and will continue to watch for now but this, especially with the recent detox issue, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don't think they were in this for the right reasons, especially not Katie. Based on her OWN comments. Time will tell how truly like their friends they are. I've stopped watching the lumps and E&J, if more things like this happen with Cullen and Katie I'll stop watching them too.
I agree with you 100%. I didn't like how the Bumps changed dramatically in the short time I watched them and if C&K change too much I will stop watching.


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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:I'm not going back and forth with you anymore. You're entitled to your opinion, so am I.
I agree lol, "arguments" like these go no where. Not sure where you are in the world but hope you have a lovely evening/day
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FakingIt_MakingIt wrote:I'm not going back and forth with you anymore. You're entitled to your opinion, so am I.
I agree lol, "arguments" like these go no where. Not sure where you are in the world but hope you have a lovely evening/day
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