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I like the name. It's original, and it also has a potential nickname that's pretty "average" if she doesn't want to stand out too much. I don't know how well it'll age, though.
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Wasn't the baby conceived in June too? I think Juni would also be a cute nickname. I think it's a good choice...I like more unique first names paired with common last names.
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So they got rid of Patreon, but now have added a donation button to their YT page? Sleazy. Corbin needs to get a JOB!!!!
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I imagine that the viewers asking how to pronounce Juniper are either kids or don't speak English as a first language, which makes sense, but Kelsey and Corbin seemed shocked that anyone wouldn't recognize the name. They have to realize that their viewers are like 10-years-old and aren't familiar with a Juniper bush?

So they're due in early March, and they haven't bought any baby gear because they haven't found housing yet. The van auction ended but they haven't mentioned the seller picking up the van or picking out an actual car with the money they made selling the van. I don't think they had any serious bids, because they advertised the ebay listing to their audience of children. It is going to be a mess scrambling to find an apartment in Portland. Any decent landlord or leasing office is going to want them to fill out an application and prove that they are employed and have a stable income. If they can find an independent landlord that wants to take a chance on two people who are both self-employed, they're going to have to provide bank statements and other documentation to prove income (like tax returns and references from previous landlords) and probably pay rent in advance. Or they are going to have to find a less than ideal place that the landlord is desperate to rent out. Hopefully this is something they've been working on for a long time, because it's going to be tricky and time consuming.
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HashtagBlessed wrote:It is going to be a mess scrambling to find an apartment in Portland.
No kidding, there is HUGE rental shortage in Portland and it doesn't seem like they are doing much to find a place. Portland is more than two hours away from where they are staying and it seems like they've only made one trip there since returning to Oregon. If they want to find a good place they are going to have be there to see it and apply for it FAST! Portland is a pet-friendly town, but having Paris is going to make it even harder to find a decent place.

I'm not sure why they don't try Eugene. It's like a mini Portland, with a college/hippy/hipster vibe - and CHEAPER! Honestly, I'd pick Eugene over Portland. I'm from Portland and it's full of annoying hipster Corbin-types now. BARF!

It's obviously they aren't moving to Portland to work, so why not move somewhere more affordable? Also, they really didn't do much of anything when they lived in PDX- but I think that's because they were broke then too.
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ewokfan11 wrote:
HashtagBlessed wrote:It is going to be a mess scrambling to find an apartment in Portland.
No kidding, there is HUGE rental shortage in Portland and it doesn't seem like they are doing much to find a place. Portland is more than two hours away from where they are staying and it seems like they've only made one trip there since returning to Oregon. If they want to find a good place they are going to have be there to see it and apply for it FAST! Portland is a pet-friendly town, but having Paris is going to make it even harder to find a decent place.

I'm not sure why they don't try Eugene. It's like a mini Portland, with a college/hippy/hipster vibe - and CHEAPER! Honestly, I'd pick Eugene over Portland. I'm from Portland and it's full of annoying hipster Corbin-types now. BARF!

It's obviously they aren't moving to Portland to work, so why not move somewhere more affordable? Also, they really didn't do much of anything when they lived in PDX- but I think that's because they were broke then too.
I didn't realize there is a huge rental shortage in Portland right now, that's going to make it even harder to find a landlord that wants two self-employed tenants if he/she has lots of other applications from stronger candidates. Of course every big city has a competitive rental market, some more than others. But this is a process that I would assume could take months given their situation, so I'm really surprised the vlogs aren't showing them pounding the pavement every day looking for a place to live.
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Late to the party but i really like the name. I love that it is very unique, but like others have said, if she doesn't dig it later in life she cam always go by Emily or June. I'm a big fan of unique names, though, so maybe im the minority.
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I think that if they want to call their daughter June, they should just name her June. I understand if you really love a nickname, but want to give your child the option of the full name in case they are in a professional situation and want the more formal sounding name. Like naming you're daughter Elizabeth but calling her Betsy, or naming her Katherine but calling her Katie. But Juniper will always be an unusual name. She's never going to ditch the nickname June in order to go by Juniper in a professional situation. So I don't really understand using it unless you LOVE it and want to use it. They keep saying June, which makes me think they prefer that name but it's not "unusual" or "unique" enough for them.
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Did they ever say anything about the sale of the van?

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larissaledingham wrote:Did they ever say anything about the sale of the van?

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I guess we will know if/when they buy a new car soon, since that's what they were planning on doing with the proceeds. However, it hasn't been re-listed on eBay, so it either sold or they are going to sell it using a different platform.
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HashtagBlessed wrote:I think that if they want to call their daughter June, they should just name her June. I understand if you really love a nickname, but want to give your child the option of the full name in case they are in a professional situation and want the more formal sounding name. Like naming you're daughter Elizabeth but calling her Betsy, or naming her Katherine but calling her Katie. But Juniper will always be an unusual name. She's never going to ditch the nickname June in order to go by Juniper in a professional situation. So I don't really understand using it unless you LOVE it and want to use it. They keep saying June, which makes me think they prefer that name but it's not "unusual" or "unique" enough for them.
Did they say they were planning on calling her June? I haven't watched in a few days.
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Well, now they're saying they're probably not buying a car after all. They weren't exaggerating when they said the apartment would be small. The place they looked at was practically a studio with no door to the bedroom. I've lived in a small studio with my husband for 6 years. No way would I do that with a baby. And that place looked like it was barely 600 square feet, if that. Why are they looking at places without the intention of moving quickly? I highly doubt anyone will hold a vacant apartment for them for more than a couple weeks. And why aren't they in a hurry to get settled?
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Corbin liked that the apartment was above a restaurant that has happy hour and lots of beer on tap??? And Kelsey thinks they can live without a car and just take public transit??!!!???!!!!!???

Do they even realize they are HAVING A BABY??? Bye, bye happy hour and fun free time and Sunday brunch at the trendy cafe!! And it rains practically 9 months a year in Portland. They want to stand at a bus stop in the rain with an infant and then take pee-scented buses everywhere??? These two are COMPLETE MORONS!! It does seem like they are having $$$$ issues. I think that's why they are thinking of dropping the car to justify getting a more expensive place "in the city." They need to seriously GROW UP and do responsible things: get a car, get an affordable (and larger) apartment even if it's not in the "cool hipster" part of town.

I used to live in the Pearl (that's a neighborhood in PDX) directly on the streetcar/bus line, three blocks from the Max train and across the street from Safeway, but guess what - I still needed a car! I can't even imagine a big grocery/Target/IKEA/etc. haul with a child, in the cold rain and taking public transit. Well, unless they enjoy that sort of hell.
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I've never lived without a car, but some people are making good points in the comments about the downsides of living without a car when you have small kids. They mention middle of the night trips to the ER and determining how close your pediatrician is to the closest bus stop. Especially if they plan on living just outside the city and not actually downtown. Taking Uber everywhere will add up. Maybe even more so than a car payment. They could have groceries delivered for a fee, but again when you tally up the Uber receipts and the delivery charges it might rival a car payment. Transporting large purchases will require a car. Just the idea of standing out in the rain waiting for public transit would motivate me to budget for that car. I agree, I think they're trying to justify a higher rent by saying they'll ditch the car.

We just bought our first home (condo near the city) with the expectation that we'll have our first child there, and I can say we definitely wanted it to be walkable (library, grocery store, restaurants, coffee all a block or two away) but we also kept both cars and made sure there was space for a nursery. These are things you think about and plan before you start your family. Not when you're 25 weeks pregnant. They certainly are gluttons for punishment.
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The apartment they looked at didn't look too bad. They could definitely make it work short term. I don't understand their preoccupation with being right in the city. It seemed like the apartment they looked at was in Portland, as in, not in a suburb, but just not the busy part of Portland. I've only been to Portland once, and we went to the most popular places, but even then taking public transportation was kind of a pain. I was surprised at how much I wanted to have a car to drive around in, since Portland is known for having great public transportation. It would definitely be really difficult with a baby.
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I lived in NYC without a car, and it was fine. BUT I was single and childless. I can't imagine having to wait for an Uber in the middle of the night with a sick child. And it sounds like they pretty much want to have it all-- be in a hip area of a cool city, and not have to worry about transportation. But that's not real life, unless you're willing to work at a regular job. Not everyone has the magic YouTube fairy make them millions. There are literally thousands of family vlogger channels. And for whatever reason, Bryan and Missy have resonated with 9 year olds, and are raking it in. That doesn't mean Corbin and Kelsey will for sure. It sounds like they need to wake up and get cracking at earning a living. They can still vlog, and if they hit it big after the baby comes, quit then. Vlogging and working are not mutually exclusive.

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fossilfinger wrote:The apartment they looked at didn't look too bad. They could definitely make it work short term. I don't understand their preoccupation with being right in the city. It seemed like the apartment they looked at was in Portland, as in, not in a suburb, but just not the busy part of Portland. I've only been to Portland once, and we went to the most popular places, but even then taking public transportation was kind of a pain. I was surprised at how much I wanted to have a car to drive around in, since Portland is known for having great public transportation. It would definitely be really difficult with a baby.
I think obviously there are lots of people out there making due with far less than a nice, small renovated apartment just outside of downtown Portland. They could make it work. But I don't think that's an ideal space for a family of three. There isn't even a room to put a sleeping baby where you can close the door. There's barely enough room for a compact crib. They're also assuming that the leasing office or landlord will accept their application. I assume his parents will co-sign. A lot of seemingly successful vloggers kept their day jobs and worked on the vlogs at night until they were making good money from their channels and could afford to quit their jobs. It's awfully presumptuous of them to think they can live in the city and support a family on their channel alone.
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Oh, and I wanted to add that as someone who went through the home buying process recently and analyzed our budget spreadsheets and mortgage broker's spreadsheets I can say that if you feel like you need to cut big expenses like a car to make a monthly housing payment work, it's probably not the right place for your budget. There will always be unexpected expenses (especially with a baby) to pay and you don't want to be living paycheck to paycheck.
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It's sort of creepy how they seem to expect this baby will give them a legit, full-time YT career. I also get the feeling they are sending out hints to viewers to send them baby gifts.

I don't want to seem pessimistic, but I think baby June was conceived in part to be their meal ticket to YT "fame." They said in a Q&A just about a year ago (maybe longer) that they were going to wait until their late 20s before kids because they wanted to travel, etc. Sure, things change and there's never a right time to have a baby, but it does seem a bit suspicious to me. I'm also 100% sure Missy and Bryan planted the seed in their head that a YT pregnancy/baby = a big YT career.

Corbin needs to find a job.
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They are just pull stuff out of their a$$es to make their daily videos. Today's video is just so boring to watch. I thought Corbin said they would explore the Northwest but they were just sitting at home. How do they expect to keep viewers with video quality like this while doing it full time?
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